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Free Talk Live => General => Topic started by: blackie on December 07, 2010, 08:58:20 PM
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I switched to a teleworker, so I am officially working in Maine. For the last 10 years I have lived/worked in NH, then TX, and both of those states have no income tax. Maine's income tax is 8.5%. It's almost like I'm tithing the state. There was a tax reform law passed in June 2009 that was supposed to make the income tax a flat rate of 6.5%. The tax reform was shot down by sixty-one percent of Maine voters on June 8, 2010, repealing the law. Fuckers.
If your income range is between $0 and $4,850, your tax rate on every dollar of income earned is 2%.
If your income range is between $4,851 and $9,700, your tax rate on every dollar of income earned is 4.5%.
If your income range is between $9,701 and $19,450, your tax rate on every dollar of income earned is 7%.
If your income range is $19,451 and over, your tax rate on every dollar of income earned is 8.5%.
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If you are telecommuting, why the fuck would you not continue to live in NH?
I love making fun of the chumps some of my co-workers in California, sitting in traffic on 101 breathing smog ... and paying 10% income tax for the privilege.
All while I look out my window at ... trees.
And no fucken state income tax.
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I think he's saying that even though he does not live in Maine, since his employer is in Maine, he has to pay Maine's state income tax, which I'm pretty sure is the case.
Only time this isnt true is if two states have a reciprocal agreement with each other. i doubt Maine would have that though.
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Fuck. There's got to be a way around that right? Or is it just too much trouble for your employer?
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Fuck. There's got to be a way around that right? Or is it just too much trouble for your employer?
If your employer would hire you as an independant contractor, yeah. Otherwise its hard to get an employer to pay you with a check and not withold anything.
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If you are telecommuting, why the fuck would you not continue to live in NH?
Because I haven't lived in NH since 2008. I would have moved back there, but property is too expensive, and the weed laws suck. But mostly it was lack of property I could afford. If I found a decent sub 100k house in NH, I would have been there. I was looking.
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Thats pretty steep.
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I think he's saying that even though he does not live in Maine, since his employer is in Maine, he has to pay Maine's state income tax, which I'm pretty sure is the case.
Only time this isnt true is if two states have a reciprocal agreement with each other. i doubt Maine would have that though.
Even California didn't fuck me like that, working from Colorado (to whom I had to pay tax--infamously leading to the collection agency that I sent the "underpayment" embedded in epoxy.) I'm sure of it, because the first couple years my employer took out California tax, and I got the money back, then I got on the horn with California to find out how to get it not taken out of my check (turns out the employer was remiss, and hadn't filed the right forms.) From then on didn't have any California tax issues.
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Thats pretty steep.
It's like the state said "Welcome to Maine!", then kicked me in the nuts. It ends up being over $100 per week. This isn't "the way life should be".
I got my social security statement in the mail last week. I guess they wanted to remind me that they have taken 70k out of my paycheck so far, and my employers have also paid them 70k. Mother fuckers. It makes me want to fake my death and have my family collect $4,318 a month.
I need start making tax free money.
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I think he's saying that even though he does not live in Maine, since his employer is in Maine, he has to pay Maine's state income tax, which I'm pretty sure is the case.
Only time this isnt true is if two states have a reciprocal agreement with each other. i doubt Maine would have that though.
Even California didn't fuck me like that, working from Colorado (to whom I had to pay tax--infamously leading to the collection agency that I sent the "underpayment" embedded in epoxy.) I'm sure of it, because the first couple years my employer took out California tax, and I got the money back, then I got on the horn with California to find out how to get it not taken out of my check (turns out the employer was remiss, and hadn't filed the right forms.) From then on didn't have any California tax issues.
Yeah, for teleworkers I'm pretty sure you only pay the income tax of the state you are based in.
It gets a little weird when you live in one state and work in another. When I was working in Nashua, NH there were a few co-workers who lived in MA, and they had to pay MA income tax. I think one of them told me they worked in VT at some point, and had to pay both MA and VT income tax.
I worked in Marlborough, MA for about a year. I had a cubicle in both Nashua and Marlborough, but mostly spent all my time in Marlborough. My employer listed me as working in Nashua all the time, so I never had to pay MA state income taxes. But apparently you are supposed to pay MA state income taxes anytime you physically work in MA, so you were supposed to keep track of how many hours you worked in MA. My co-workers and I would always joke around that if anyone ever asked, the answer was "0".
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well, if its any consolation,
the maine tax allows you to wear red flannel (w/ the elmer fudd hat) all year without questions from the fashionista.....
don't forget the suspenders.
''ayuhhhh''
and, as an added bonus:
you get to say to people south of you
''i'm down here in maine, maybe i'll come up theyuh, to flawridah this wintah an see youse all''
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It is the price you pay for cheaper housing costs and a freer attitude toward weed. If NH adopted those there would be more movement into NH. I totally understand the whole property cost problem. NH is very expensive and the property taxes are outrageous in some areas.
Have you added your over all tax bill to include property, sales and income in Maine vs the property tax costs of NH? Does is equal out? Doesn't NH have a tax on savings as well as property?
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ME is the highest taxed state in the nation. People tend to move there because they are rich and want to live in/near the ocean/mountains/lakes or because they want handouts from the government. You moved there knowing it had the highest taxes in the nation after doing lots of research. You knew the voters in ME are just are the least pro-liberty voters, in general, in the US and are getting worse, on average, every year. Many of the better voters are moving to NH and the tend has been happening for decades.
No one moves to Maine for freedom but many people move to Maine because they are highly against freedom and want to reduce it.
This isn't rape. You are acting like the ladies that were "raped" by the wikleaks founder.
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If you are telecommuting, why the fuck would you not continue to live in NH?
Because I haven't lived in NH since 2008. I would have moved back there, but property is too expensive, and the weed laws suck. But mostly it was lack of property I could afford. If I found a decent sub 100k house in NH, I would have been there. I was looking.
What about that duplex if Grafton for sub 100k?
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This isn't rape. You are acting like the ladies that were "raped" by the wikleaks founder.
+1
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What about that duplex if Grafton for sub 100k?
Not decent.
Also, the free staters ruined Grafton. The feds are there now.
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well, if its any consolation,
the maine tax allows you to wear red flannel (w/ the elmer fudd hat) all year without questions from the fashionista.....
don't forget the suspenders.
''ayuhhhh''
I need to get a red and black lumberjack, with a hat to match.
(http://onenessblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/9718_large.jpg)
Also, I haven't shaved or got a haircut since I moved to Maine. I'm starting to look like I belong here.
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This isn't rape. You are acting like the ladies that were "raped" by the wikleaks founder.
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Let me google the definition of "rape" for you.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rape
rape
1 /reɪp/ Show Spelled [reyp] Show IPA noun, verb, raped, rap·ing.
–noun
1.
the unlawful compelling of a woman through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse.
2.
any act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person.
3.
statutory rape.
4.
an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse; despoliation; violation: the rape of the countryside.
5.
Archaic . the act of seizing and carrying off by force.
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Have you added your over all tax bill to include property, sales and income in Maine vs the property tax costs of NH? Does is equal out?
ME is more. I need to figure out how much I will get back from the state income tax. I didn't fill out a state w-4, so right now my employer is taking out the entire 8.5%. I have a crap load of exemptions.
Doesn't NH have a tax on savings as well as property?
There is a 5% tax on interest and dividend income.
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ME is the highest taxed state in the nation.
What about NY and NJ?
According to the tax foundation, ME was 15 in 2008.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/336.html
People tend to move there because they are rich and want to live in/near the ocean/mountains/lakes or because they want handouts from the government.
Rich people don't live in ME year round. They get summer homes here. There is a reason they call it the Vacationland State. Sounds like an opportunity to make money off of rich people to me.
I doubt many people move to ME for the government handouts, but many of the people here do have an entitlement mentality.
You moved there knowing it had the highest taxes in the nation after doing lots of research.
:roll:
You knew the voters in ME are just are the least pro-liberty voters, in general, in the US and are getting worse, on average, every year. Many of the better voters are moving to NH and the tend has been happening for decades.
I don't vote, and I don't plan on running for anything, so I don't care about voters. People with pipe dreams care about that stuff.
No one moves to Maine for freedom but many people move to Maine because they are highly against freedom and want to reduce it.
Please provide some evidence to support this claim.
One thing I know... NH has some of the worst marijuana laws (http://norml.org/index.cfm?wtm_view=&Group_ID=4551) in the country.
As far as personal freedom goes, Maine is #2 according to your pal J.P. Sorens.
http://www.statepolicyindex.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/freedom-in-the-50-states-an-index-of-personal-and-economic-freedom-by-ruger-and-sorens.pdf
Table IV: Personal Freedom Ranking
State Personal freedom
1. Alaska 0.272
2. Maine 0.193
3. New Mexico 0.138
4. Arkansas 0.125
5. Texas 0.121
6. Missouri 0.110
7. Oregon 0.104
8. Idaho 0.100
9. Virginia 0.100
10. Wyoming 0.095
11. Vermont 0.093
12. Arizona 0.089
13. New Hampshire 0.087
14. Utah 0.086
15. Kansas 0.085
16. Colorado 0.084
17. West Virginia 0.080
18. Tennessee 0.059
19. Indiana 0.049
20. Michigan 0.045
21. Montana 0.029
22. Mississippi 0.027
23. Florida 0.022
24. South Dakota 0.007
25. Iowa 0.006
26. Kentucky 0.003
27. Oklahoma -0.002
28. Hawaii -0.009
29. Pennsylvania -0.018
30. North Carolina -0.022
31. Minnesota -0.036
32. Nevada -0.045
33. North Dakota -0.047
34. Nebraska -0.055
35. Washington -0.055
36. Delaware -0.060
37. California -0.063
38. Connecticut -0.082
39. Wisconsin -0.089
40. Louisiana -0.098
41. South Carolina -0.102
42. Georgia -0.106
43. Alabama -0.107
44. Massachusetts -0.109
45. New Jersey -0.120
46. Ohio -0.124
47. Rhode Island -0.163
48. New York -0.188
49. Illinois -0.213
50. Maryland -0.294
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well, if its any consolation,
the maine tax allows you to wear red flannel (w/ the elmer fudd hat) all year without questions from the fashionista.....
don't forget the suspenders.
''ayuhhhh''
I need to get a red and black lumberjack, with a hat to match.
(http://onenessblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/9718_large.jpg)
Also, I haven't shaved or got a haircut since I moved to Maine. I'm starting to look like I belong here.
as long as you don't turn black, like the dude in the photo....it's all good....
also, i'm betting you have far more teeth than the avg. ME-er (they did, after all, invent the ''toothbrush''......anywhere else, it would have been named ''teethbrush'')