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Stephen E.

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How to End the War on Terror
« on: September 13, 2010, 09:45:09 PM »

Hey forum,

I was wondering what other foreign policy non-interventionists would think of my proposal to end the war on terror (which is really an insurgency within the Islamic world) by having America not support those regimes that are suppressing Sharia-promoting parties in their respective nations. It so happens that it is this intervention that generates resentment most of all--even more than the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. I explain further in my blog post here:

http://bridgeoftheages.blogspot.com/2010/09/whos-afraid-of-sharia.html

If anyone thinks it would be a bad idea offhand, then let fly your reasons. 
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Re: How to End the War on Terror
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2010, 09:51:41 PM »

You're at a libertarian/minarchist/anarchist site.

There's just about no one here in favor of any government doing anything to anyone, let alone "us" or "America".

Just an FYI.

P.S. - Just about no one here would self identify as "Conservative" either. You're welcome to come hang out, but if your opinions involve government solutions to problems, you're gonna get into scrapes.
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Re: How to End the War on Terror
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2010, 09:59:18 PM »

seems more like blog spam than someone wanting to have a meaningful conversation

*shrug*
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Re: How to End the War on Terror
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2010, 10:03:34 PM »

Worked for Molyneux.
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Re: How to End the War on Terror
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2010, 10:32:09 PM »

" by having America not support those regimes that are suppressing Sharia-promoting parties in their respective nations."

Well, ya got it half right anyway.

How about not supporting ANY regime whether they are supressing Sharia parties or not.

 Leave them to their own devices.
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Re: How to End the War on Terror
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2010, 11:05:09 PM »

Yup, the quickest way to end the WOT is to bring ALL of our troops home, disband the CIA, fire the lot of them and make them go out and earn an honest living,* don't send another dime to any foreign nation, and don't meddle in any foreign politics.

*I define an "honest living" as when the money you earn is given to you voluntarily, by mutual agreement between all involved parties. This is in contrast to ANY government employee whose source of income is confiscated from taxpayers against their will.
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Re: How to End the War on Terror
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2010, 12:27:46 AM »

You're at a libertarian/minarchist/anarchist site.

There's just about no one here in favor of any government doing anything to anyone, let alone "us" or "America".

Just an FYI.

P.S. - Just about no one here would self identify as "Conservative" either. You're welcome to come hang out, but if your opinions involve government solutions to problems, you're gonna get into scrapes.

I identify as a conservative of the Old Right so I doubt that would cause much of a ruckus. It would be great to hang around and debate what arguments would be the best for promoting non-interventionism because I think libertarians need to go a bit further in-depth and I would like to assist them in doing so. Thus my piece about how Sharia movements do not invariably devolve into Bin-Ladenism
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Re: How to End the War on Terror
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2010, 12:30:56 AM »

You're at a libertarian/minarchist/anarchist site.

There's just about no one here in favor of any government doing anything to anyone, let alone "us" or "America".

Just an FYI.

P.S. - Just about no one here would self identify as "Conservative" either. You're welcome to come hang out, but if your opinions involve government solutions to problems, you're gonna get into scrapes.

I identify as a conservative of the Old Right so I doubt that would cause much of a ruckus. It would be great to hang around and debate what arguments would be the best for promoting non-interventionism because I think libertarians need to go a bit further in-depth and I would like to assist them in doing so. Thus my piece about how Sharia movements do not invariably devolve into Bin-Ladenism

I feel ya, but if you're talking state policy, anarchists get crabby. Just letting you know.
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Re: How to End the War on Terror
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2010, 12:33:29 AM »

seems more like blog spam than someone wanting to have a meaningful conversation

*shrug*

No evidence of that. Yet.
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Re: How to End the War on Terror
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2010, 12:37:55 AM »

You're at a libertarian/minarchist/anarchist site.

There's just about no one here in favor of any government doing anything to anyone, let alone "us" or "America".

Just an FYI.

P.S. - Just about no one here would self identify as "Conservative" either. You're welcome to come hang out, but if your opinions involve government solutions to problems, you're gonna get into scrapes.

I identify as a conservative of the Old Right so I doubt that would cause much of a ruckus. It would be great to hang around and debate what arguments would be the best for promoting non-interventionism because I think libertarians need to go a bit further in-depth and I would like to assist them in doing so. Thus my piece about how Sharia movements do not invariably devolve into Bin-Ladenism
So you're saying "hands off"? Dont get involved in their fights at all?
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Re: How to End the War on Terror
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2010, 12:44:23 AM »

"So you're saying "hands off"? Dont get involved in their fights at all?"

That's exactly what I'm saying. I just want to find more effective ways of saying it.
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Re: How to End the War on Terror
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2010, 02:34:04 AM »

seems more like blog spam than someone wanting to have a meaningful conversation

*shrug*

Not spam at all. A meaningful conversation is what I'm after but I thought the blog post could charge up discussion. Now, when it comes to convincing people of the merits of non-intervention vis-a-vis the Muslim world, would showing Americans that Sharia--a legitimizing force and source of stability--does not lead to Islamic extremism be the best path to take?
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Re: How to End the War on Terror
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2010, 07:36:37 AM »

Quote from: Stephen E.
Not spam at all. A meaningful conversation is what I'm after but I thought the blog post could charge up discussion. Now, when it comes to convincing people of the merits of non-intervention vis-a-vis the Muslim world, would showing Americans that Sharia--a legitimizing force and source of stability--does not lead to Islamic extremism be the best path to take?

From what I see it is a waste of time. The ignorance of the masses is astounding to me as I go about my day and observe what people say and think. They do not grasp even the simplest things about anything beyond their daily routines.

Large numbers of Americans think Saddam had something to do with 9/11; very few people are aware of decades of US meddling, coercion, occupation, destruction and murder overseas; most people think the Iraq war is over and we won; most people think we will "win" in Afghanistan despite being unable to define "winning"; most people think 9/11 terrorists were motivated by religion; no native American has any idea what being occupied by foreign troops is really like, so Americans are NOT going to understand or care anything about Sharia law.
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Re: How to End the War on Terror
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2010, 11:48:42 AM »

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no native American has any idea what being occupied by foreign troops is really like,


Being of "native American" descent, I beg to differ.
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Re: How to End the War on Terror
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2010, 12:37:58 PM »

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no native American has any idea what being occupied by foreign troops is really like,


Being of "native American" descent, I beg to differ.

Being politically incorrect, I used the real meaning of the word "native," that's why I didn't capitalize it.

However, I do sympathize with the American Indians of yore for being victims of the official government policy of extermination.
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