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wile-e-coyote

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Re: Holocaust Denial
« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2009, 03:25:27 PM »

That just makes it alright then doesn't it..... :roll:
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Re: Holocaust Denial
« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2009, 03:26:03 PM »

That just makes it alright then doesn't it..... :roll:

yes, actually it does
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Re: Holocaust Denial
« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2009, 03:30:56 PM »

The problems of the world can be solved by being sanctimonious! Thank you, your message will carry to the furthest reaches of the world so that we may all be saved.  :lol:
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Re: Holocaust Denial
« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2009, 03:53:26 PM »

The problems of the world can be solved by being sanctimonious! Thank you, your message will carry to the furthest reaches of the world so that we may all be saved.  :lol:


I'm not being sanctimonius, I just know that if someone acts a certain way he's an asshole.

Like you. Asshole.
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Re: Holocaust Denial
« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2009, 04:04:12 PM »

I'm not a murderous asshole because I'm not.
I'm not being sanctimonius.
I'm an asshole, though. I'll admit that.
I'm not being sanctimonius.

Like you. Asshole.

I'd like you to show me where I said I was better than anyone else, and that's 'anyone else' to include hitler. :lol:
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Re: Holocaust Denial
« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2009, 04:07:31 PM »

I'm not a murderous asshole because I'm not.
I'm not being sanctimonius.
I'm an asshole, though. I'll admit that.
I'm not being sanctimonius.

Like you. Asshole.

I'd like you to show me where I said I was better than anyone else, and that's 'anyone else' to include hitler. :lol:

Trolls are usually assholes and you're definitely a troll.

You asshole.
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Re: Holocaust Denial
« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2009, 04:17:55 PM »

Aww, were my questions too tough for you?  :lol:
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Re: Holocaust Denial
« Reply #37 on: February 26, 2009, 10:37:26 PM »

http://www.rense.com/general85/mahl.htm

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MUNICH - German dissident Horst Mahler has been sentenced to six years in prison for "Volksverhetzung" (racial incitement). The symbolically significant number of years imposed for "anti- Semitic hate speech" stemmed from his refusal to recognize the Jewish Holocaust®, which he described as "the biggest lie in world history."

FACING LIFELONG IMPRISONMENT-Dissident Horst Mahler is seen here with his wife Sylvia Stolz, currently in prison for defending other dissidents.
 
 
The 73-year-old defendant was accused, among other things, of repeated dissemination of his views on the Internet as well as distribution of a revisionist videotape and a CD and book by Holo-skeptic Germar Rudolf, now serving time for "Holocaust® denial" in a German prison.
 
Immediately following sentencing, the 73-year-old dissident was arrested and led away before astonished onlookers in the courtroom, including many of his supporters.
 
The former attorney for the rightwing National Democratic Party (NPD) successfully represented that organization when the German regime tried to have it banned in the 1990s. He earlier received prison sentences for thought-crimes on several occasions.
 
'I have resolved to call a lie a lie'
 
In his concluding remarks before the court, Mahler noted that with another case pending against him he faces a total of over 12 years in prison - the equivalent of a life sentence, given his advanced age. He would, however, stand by his views.
 
In setting a personal example, Mahler declared that it was incumbent upon every German to "deal a deathblow to the Holocaust® religion as martyrs for the truth."
 
The dissident defendant concluded by saying:
 
"I have resolved to expose this Talmudic perfidy, that over and over again I will call a lie a lie and oppose it with the truth. I have sworn to my people never to give up in this fight against the Holocaust® religion."


http://jta.org/news/article/2009/02/26/1003313/mahler-sentenced-transfered-for-new-trial
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Mahler sentenced, transferred for new trial

February 26, 2009

BERLIN (JTA) -- Recidivist hate purveyor Horst Mahler, sentenced yesterday to six years in prison for hate crimes in a Munich court, is facing another trial.

Mahler, 73, was found guilty on Feb. 25 of incitement of hate for posting Holocaust denial material on the Internet and distributing anti-Semitic CDs calling for violence against Jews.

A founder of the far-left Red Army Faction who famously underwent a transformation to the extreme right, Mahler is expected to be transferred to a jail in the northeastern state of Brandenburg to await his next trial.  A spokesperson from the Potsdam District Court told reporters that "our trial can only go forward if Horst Mahler is here."

Before being removed from the courtroom Wednesday, Mahler reportedly made a long closing statement repeating his Holocaust denial and saying he supported controversial Bishop Richard Williamson, who has publicly doubted that 6 million Jews were killed by the Nazis.

Mahler is a prominent member of the right-extremist National Democratic Party of Germany.

In November 2007, he was sentenced to six months in a German prison for raising his arm in the illegal "Hitler salute" to greet his jailers in a previous sentence for incitement to hate.
That is some funny shit....a "Hitler salute" to your German jailers who have you locked up for a thought crime.
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Re: Holocaust Denial
« Reply #38 on: February 27, 2009, 10:26:09 AM »

My general rule of thumb is that if the "powers that be" are saying something is so - it isn't...

So I guess you have to label me a "holocaust denier" because I do not buy the 6 million figure nor do I buy the "gas chambers" story (of course the "soap" and "lampshades" BS was discredited long ago).   These things make great propaganda though to get everyone to march lock-step into numerous wars and to vote for more over-seas expenditures...

If I read in the most prestigious source that "the sky is blue" I will have to go out and look for myself before I believe it.

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Re: Holocaust Denial
« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2009, 01:38:46 PM »

My general rule of thumb is that if the "powers that be" are saying something is so - it isn't...

So I guess you have to label me a "holocaust denier" because I do not buy the 6 million figure nor do I buy the "gas chambers" story (of course the "soap" and "lampshades" BS was discredited long ago).   These things make great propaganda though to get everyone to march lock-step into numerous wars and to vote for more over-seas expenditures...

If I read in the most prestigious source that "the sky is blue" I will have to go out and look for myself before I believe it.

But the Bible, that's credible.

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Re: Holocaust Denial
« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2009, 01:42:52 PM »

My general rule of thumb is that if the "powers that be" are saying something is so - it isn't...

So I guess you have to label me a "holocaust denier" because I do not buy the 6 million figure nor do I buy the "gas chambers" story (of course the "soap" and "lampshades" BS was discredited long ago).   These things make great propaganda though to get everyone to march lock-step into numerous wars and to vote for more over-seas expenditures...

If I read in the most prestigious source that "the sky is blue" I will have to go out and look for myself before I believe it.

right, cuz it's not like the Nazi bureaucratic state recorded everything in detail and recorded speeches by Himmler saying about the Holocaust, "This is a chapter in history never to be written"
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Re: Holocaust Denial
« Reply #41 on: February 27, 2009, 02:06:38 PM »

50-60 million people died in world war 2 and most of them were civilians. So how many were jews? Probably a lot because millison were killed at the russian front. They can probably substantiate 500-600 thousand who died in the camps who were mostly jews. So does it matter if they wre jewish or not?
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Re: Holocaust Denial
« Reply #42 on: February 27, 2009, 11:49:35 PM »

My general rule of thumb is that if the "powers that be" are saying something is so - it isn't...

So I guess you have to label me a "holocaust denier" because I do not buy the 6 million figure nor do I buy the "gas chambers" story (of course the "soap" and "lampshades" BS was discredited long ago).   These things make great propaganda though to get everyone to march lock-step into numerous wars and to vote for more over-seas expenditures...

If I read in the most prestigious source that "the sky is blue" I will have to go out and look for myself before I believe it.

But the Bible, that's credible.

Well, if you want to get into that subject, read the following and you will see that I've already answered the "credible" question...

http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=11164.msg36595#msg36595

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Obama pledges to confront Holocaust deniers
« Reply #43 on: April 24, 2009, 02:13:21 PM »

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hV18fZB0yVFj1F0eCha8PGWvVD_Q
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Obama pledges to confront Holocaust deniers


WASHINGTON (AFP) — At a ceremony Thursday remembering millions of Jews slaughtered in World War II, President Barack Obama reaffirmed the strong US bond with Israel and vowed to confront Holocaust deniers.

"There are those who insist the Holocaust never happened, who perpetrate every form of intolerance -- racism, anti-Semitism, homophobia, xenophobia, sexism and more," Obama told a gathering in the Capitol Rotunda organized by the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.

"We have an opportunity and an obligation to confront these scourges," Obama said.

"We have the opportunity ... to commit ourselves to resisting injustice, intolerance and indifference in whatever forms they may take, whether confronting those who tells lies about history or doing everything we can to prevent and end atrocities like those that took place in Rwanda, those taking place in Darfur," he said.

The US president's speech came just days after a UN conference on racism where Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad denounced Israel as "the most cruel and repressive racist regime."

Obama reaffirmed the "strong and enduring" bonds between the United States and Israel.

"The nation of Israel rising from the destruction of the Holocaust" was a source of hope to all those who commit to fighting intolerance, he said.

Among those at the gathering, which was part of the US Holocaust Museum's Days of Remembrance, were five Poles who between them saved the lives of scores of Jews and have been awarded the title of Righteous among the Nations by the Holocaust remembrance organization, Yad Vashem.

"The Righteous remind us that no one is born a savior or a murderer. These are choices we each have the power to make," Obama said of the Poles as well as the villagers of Le Chambon in France, which refused to turn away or turn in Jews during the war, and saved 5,000 lives.

Jozef Wolszczak, now 90, and the doyen of the group of Righteous, saved the lives of 53 Jews in occupied Poland during the war, buying 20 of them for a kilo of gold from the Germans after a raid, giving 30 jobs in his small factory and harboring three more in his home.

Tadeusz Stankiewicz's family built bunkers in the woods southeast of Warsaw, in which 60 Jews hid.

"We did it because it was the only thing to do. How can you watch so many people suffering and not lift a finger to help them?" Stankiewicz told AFP.

Ireneusz Rajchowski's family sheltered dozens of Jews in their home, including a man they helped smuggle out of the Warsaw ghetto.

The rescued Jewish man and his family survived the war. His daughter, Barbara Gora, was in the Capitol Thursday, along with two more Righteous Poles, Alicja Schnepf and Anna Stupnicka-Bando, and Krystyna Budnicka, the only member of her Orthodox Jewish family to survive the war.

"The Righteous teach us ... that if we have the courage to heed that 'still, small voice' within us, we can form a minyan for righteousness that can span a village and even a nation," said Obama.

A minyan is the quorum required for Jewish communal worship. More than 6,000 Poles have been awarded the title of Righteous among the Nations, the largest number of any country.

Nobel laureate Elie Wiesel, who survived the Nazi death camps at Auschwitz and Buchenwald, used his time at the podium in the Rotunda to take on Ahmadinejad.

The Iranian leader was "the number one Holocaust denier in the world," said Wiesel, whose mother and sister died at Auschwitz, his father at Buchenwald.

"He used the solemn setting of a United Nations gathering again to insult the state of Israel in a way that no civilized person should ever do," he said, thanking the United States for boycotting the UN meeting in Geneva.


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Re: Obama pledges to confront Holocaust deniers
« Reply #44 on: April 24, 2009, 02:34:12 PM »

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hV18fZB0yVFj1F0eCha8PGWvVD_Q
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Obama pledges to confront Holocaust deniers


WASHINGTON (AFP) — At a ceremony Thursday remembering millions of Jews slaughtered in World War II, President Barack Obama reaffirmed the strong US bond with Israel and vowed to confront Holocaust deniers.

"There are those who insist the Holocaust never happened, who perpetrate every form of intolerance -- racism, anti-Semitism, homophobia, xenophobia, sexism and more," Obama told a gathering in the Capitol Rotunda organized by the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.

"We have an opportunity and an obligation to confront these scourges," Obama said.

"We have the opportunity ... to commit ourselves to resisting injustice, intolerance and indifference in whatever forms they may take, whether confronting those who tells lies about history or doing everything we can to prevent and end atrocities like those that took place in Rwanda, those taking place in Darfur," he said.

The US president's speech came just days after a UN conference on racism where Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad denounced Israel as "the most cruel and repressive racist regime."

Obama reaffirmed the "strong and enduring" bonds between the United States and Israel.

"The nation of Israel rising from the destruction of the Holocaust" was a source of hope to all those who commit to fighting intolerance, he said.

Among those at the gathering, which was part of the US Holocaust Museum's Days of Remembrance, were five Poles who between them saved the lives of scores of Jews and have been awarded the title of Righteous among the Nations by the Holocaust remembrance organization, Yad Vashem.

"The Righteous remind us that no one is born a savior or a murderer. These are choices we each have the power to make," Obama said of the Poles as well as the villagers of Le Chambon in France, which refused to turn away or turn in Jews during the war, and saved 5,000 lives.

Jozef Wolszczak, now 90, and the doyen of the group of Righteous, saved the lives of 53 Jews in occupied Poland during the war, buying 20 of them for a kilo of gold from the Germans after a raid, giving 30 jobs in his small factory and harboring three more in his home.

Tadeusz Stankiewicz's family built bunkers in the woods southeast of Warsaw, in which 60 Jews hid.

"We did it because it was the only thing to do. How can you watch so many people suffering and not lift a finger to help them?" Stankiewicz told AFP.

Ireneusz Rajchowski's family sheltered dozens of Jews in their home, including a man they helped smuggle out of the Warsaw ghetto.

The rescued Jewish man and his family survived the war. His daughter, Barbara Gora, was in the Capitol Thursday, along with two more Righteous Poles, Alicja Schnepf and Anna Stupnicka-Bando, and Krystyna Budnicka, the only member of her Orthodox Jewish family to survive the war.

"The Righteous teach us ... that if we have the courage to heed that 'still, small voice' within us, we can form a minyan for righteousness that can span a village and even a nation," said Obama.

A minyan is the quorum required for Jewish communal worship. More than 6,000 Poles have been awarded the title of Righteous among the Nations, the largest number of any country.

Nobel laureate Elie Wiesel, who survived the Nazi death camps at Auschwitz and Buchenwald, used his time at the podium in the Rotunda to take on Ahmadinejad.

The Iranian leader was "the number one Holocaust denier in the world," said Wiesel, whose mother and sister died at Auschwitz, his father at Buchenwald.

"He used the solemn setting of a United Nations gathering again to insult the state of Israel in a way that no civilized person should ever do," he said, thanking the United States for boycotting the UN meeting in Geneva.



I deny that Obama was born...he crawled out of the ooze...

I deny that Obama crawled out of American ooze...he crawled out of foreign ooze...

he might be a reptilian lizard god though...

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