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Re: Holocaust Denial
« Reply #105 on: September 10, 2009, 12:49:27 AM »

Iran's Ahmadinejad on Holocaust

Don't like him leave him to his own country where he was legally elected their representative. 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA... no he wasn't.


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I also agree there is no other event in human history which has protection laws around it.


No, there's the Holodomor in Ukraine and the Armenian genocide in Turkey and Armenia (two different sorts of laws, though).
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Re: Holocaust Denial
« Reply #106 on: October 28, 2009, 10:38:03 PM »

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1124215.html

France fines comedian 10,000 euros over anti-Semitic stunt

By Haaretz Service
 

A French court on Tuesday fined a right-wing comedian 10,000 euros for "public anti-Semitic insults" after he invited Robert Faurisson, an academic and Holocaust denier, on stage during a comedy show to receive an "award" from an actor dressed as a Jewish deportee.

The Paris court told Dieudonne M'bala M'bala, a 43-year-old French stand-up comic, to pay a further 10,000 in damages and legal fees to organizations that sued him, French news agency AFP reported.

Dieudonne told the court that the show had been intended as a "comedy bomb attack" but defended his right to free expression. Anti-racism and Jewish groups welcomed the verdict, AFP reported.

Dieudonne has courted controversy in the past. Earlier this year he tried entering politics by running for the European parliament as head of an anti-Zionist party.

In 2007, the comedian was fined after he accused Jews of exploiting "memorial pornography" and attacked a "Zionist lobby which cultivates the idea of their unique suffering...and has declared war on the black world."

Two months later he was back in court and fined 5,000 euros for having compared Jews to "slave-traders."

He remains under investigation over a video circulating on the Internet in which he appears to attack a "yid Zionist lobby" led by "racist liars."




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dieudonn%C3%A9_M'bala_M'bala

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On June 14, 2006 Dieudonné was sentenced to a penalty of 4,500 Euro for defamation after having called a prominent Jewish television presenter a "secret donor of the child-murdering Israeli army".[47]

On November 15, 2007, an appellate court convicted him to a 5,000 Euro fine because he had treated "the Jews" as "slave traders".[48]

On 26 June 2008, he was sentenced in the last judicial instance to a 7,000 Euro fine for his designation of the Holocaust as "memorial pornography".[49]

On 27 February 2009 he was fined 75,000 Canadian dollars in Montreal for defamatory statements with antisemtic undertones against the singer and actor Patrick Bruel.[50]

On 26 March 2009 Dieudonné was sentenced to a total of 3,000 Euros for defamation after having criticised Elisabeth Schemla, a Jewish journalist who ran the now defunct Proche-Orient.Info website. He declared on 31 May 2005 that the website wanted to "eradicate Dieudonné from the audiovisual landscape" and had said of him that "he's an anti-semite, he's the son of Hitler, he will exterminate everyone.".[51]

On 27 October 2009, he was sentenced to a fine of 10,000 Euros for "public insult of people of Jewish faith or origin" related to his show with Robert Faurisson.[52]
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Re: Holocaust Denial
« Reply #107 on: October 28, 2009, 11:47:29 PM »

France is an anti-semetic cesspool.  Fuck em, in so many ways.
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Re: Holocaust Denial
« Reply #108 on: October 29, 2009, 12:00:12 AM »

France is an anti-semetic cesspool.  Fuck em, in so many ways.

all hail the french hero monsieur dreyfus
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« Reply #109 on: February 17, 2010, 02:48:26 PM »

http://www.javno.com/en-world/holocaust-denier-to-be-freed-from-jail_294534

Holocaust-denier to be freed from jail


Denying that the Holocaust took place, or questioning key elements such as that six million Jews died, is illegal in Germany and Austria.


BERLIN, February 17, 2010 (AFP) - German Holocaust-denier Ernst Zuendel is to be freed from prison on March 1 after serving out his five-year sentence, prosecutors said on Wednesday.

Zuendel, 69, was jailed for five years in 2007 for inciting racial hatred, having been extradited from Canada in 2005 where he had lived for decades. Two years spent behind bars before his trial were counted as part of his sentence.

He repeatedly denied key historical facts of the Holocaust, penning a book titled "The Hitler We Loved and Why", describing the Nazi leader as a "man of peace" and helping to disseminate a range of anti-Semitic literature.

Denying that the Holocaust took place, or questioning key elements such as that six million Jews died, is illegal in Germany and Austria.

Renegade British bishop Richard Williamson is due to face trial in Germany on April 16 after refusing to pay a fine for saying that "not one Jew" was killed in the gas chambers. He is not required to attend in person and can be represented by his lawyer.
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Re: Holocaust Denial
« Reply #110 on: February 17, 2010, 07:24:24 PM »

good

now hopefully he'll go back to published crappy UFO books instead of crappy Holocaust denial books
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Re: Holocaust Denial
« Reply #111 on: February 17, 2010, 10:00:44 PM »

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He repeatedly denied key historical facts of the Holocaust, penning a book titled "The Hitler We Loved and Why", describing the Nazi leader as a "man of peace" and helping to disseminate a range of anti-Semitic literature.

 :shock: Sounds like he's pretty much an all-round denier.
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Re: Holocaust Denial
« Reply #112 on: February 18, 2010, 10:36:55 AM »

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He repeatedly denied key historical facts of the Holocaust, penning a book titled "The Hitler We Loved and Why", describing the Nazi leader as a "man of peace" and helping to disseminate a range of anti-Semitic literature.

 :shock: Sounds like he's pretty much an all-round denier.

It's pretty bad when people can be jailed or otherwise punished for "speech".  It is, after all, "UNPOPULAR" speech that is supposed to be "protected" by these gangs of thugs called "government"...

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Re: Holocaust Denial
« Reply #113 on: February 18, 2010, 10:49:52 PM »

I don't think that someone yelling, "I'm going to kill you!" can legally (or ethically) get away with it, free speech or not. And, some yahoo saying he's going to blow up government buildings and murder people falls into the same category.
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Re: Holocaust Denial
« Reply #114 on: February 18, 2010, 11:53:33 PM »

I don't think that someone yelling, "I'm going to kill you!" can legally (or ethically) get away with it, free speech or not. And, some yahoo saying he's going to blow up government buildings and murder people falls into the same category.

I had death threats made against me, and that fella got away with it.
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Re: Holocaust Denial
« Reply #115 on: February 19, 2010, 12:26:35 AM »

I don't think that someone yelling, "I'm going to kill you!" can legally (or ethically) get away with it, free speech or not. And, some yahoo saying he's going to blow up government buildings and murder people falls into the same category.

I had death threats made against me, and that fella got away with it.

It's happened to me too.
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Re: Holocaust Denial
« Reply #116 on: February 19, 2010, 01:15:12 AM »

I don't think that someone yelling, "I'm going to kill you!" can legally (or ethically) get away with it, free speech or not. And, some yahoo saying he's going to blow up government buildings and murder people falls into the same category.

I had death threats made against me, and that fella got away with it.

It's happened to me too.
In CA there's penal code that specifically bans death threats and rates them as felonies.  I don't think its really enforced though.
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Re: Holocaust Denial
« Reply #117 on: February 19, 2010, 01:18:09 AM »

I don't think that someone yelling, "I'm going to kill you!" can legally (or ethically) get away with it, free speech or not. And, some yahoo saying he's going to blow up government buildings and murder people falls into the same category.

I had death threats made against me, and that fella got away with it.

It's happened to me too.
In CA there's penal code that specifically bans death threats and rates them as felonies.  I don't think its really enforced though.

I bet it depends on who it is getting the threat.
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Re: Holocaust Denial
« Reply #118 on: February 19, 2010, 01:30:27 AM »

I don't think that someone yelling, "I'm going to kill you!" can legally (or ethically) get away with it, free speech or not. And, some yahoo saying he's going to blow up government buildings and murder people falls into the same category.

I had death threats made against me, and that fella got away with it.

It's happened to me too.
In CA there's penal code that specifically bans death threats and rates them as felonies.  I don't think its really enforced though.

I bet it depends on who it is getting the threat.
Appears it does: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=267601
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« Reply #119 on: February 19, 2010, 08:22:03 AM »

Yeah, it's enforced. It's called "assault." People usually think of assault as actual hitting, but in legalise it's issuing a threat. When it moves to hitting, or worse, it's "battery."
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