Historical Precedent

[Diogenes The Cynic]

I think that with new social experiments, it is necessary to look into the past to see how similiar situations worked out.

A lot of people here like the idea of minarchism, and corporate rule. The two closest historical parallels would be Athens for the former, and Jamestown for the latter. For Athens, minarchism was unquestionably bad, and for Jamestown, corporate rule was mediocre.

In terms of tax collection, a voluntary system di for for Athens, and is what I think to be one of three reasons their economy was so good. The other two reasons being slavery, which is unconscionable, and their propensity for not enriching their descendents.

Warren Buffet often mentions that a tax completeky taking away property would make the economy explode. What thinks you?

[Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith)]

I think taxes hurt the economy.

[Changed My Mind]

I think taxes hurt the economy.

and they suck.

[Diogenes The Cynic]

Would you pay a voluntary tax to maintain roads in your town?

I would.

[Harry Tuttle]

Would you pay a voluntary tax to maintain roads in your town?

I would.

Or I could voluntarily pay a FEE to drive on the roads I wish to use.

[Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith)]

Would you pay a voluntary tax to maintain roads in your town?

I would.

Or I could voluntarily pay a FEE to drive on the roads I wish to use.

Of course, but since it would be voluntary that changes everything.

[Changed My Mind]

Would you pay a voluntary tax to maintain roads in your town?

I would.

then we're in agreement.  I agree with the word 'fee' as well.  I'd like to think many roads would be owned by the same company or have some overarching membership to travel their roads.

If not, like I saw in Florida, exit ramps with 25 cent tolls to exit to their mall.  Works.

[Evil Muppet]

Athens taxed merchants and foreigners.  The voluntary tax was applied to a small segment of the overall population, was collected only in times of crisis. 

Athens was also far from a minarchist state.   It was an oligarchy. 

[yamnuska]

Would you pay a voluntary tax to maintain roads in your town?

I would.

Or I could voluntarily pay a FEE to drive on the roads I wish to use.

  They finally brought out a book about the roads issue, I ordered half a dozen copies and whenever some statist prick brings that fucking issue up I will smack them across the head with it and say, "Read this fucktard, then get back to me."

http://mises.org/store/Privatization-of-Roads-and-Highways-P581.aspx

[Diogenes The Cynic]

In my hometown of Monsey, private building of sidewalks and bypass streets for pedestrians surpassed the rate o construction of the same by city government. Not only are these privately owned paths free, theyre also higher quality then the sidewalks.

a question I have, why is everyone so hug up on toll roads everywhere? What about toll sidewalks? Your take...

[Changed My Mind]

sweet I can't wait

[Kevin Freeheart]

Would you pay a voluntary tax

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[Diogenes The Cynic]

What the fuck does that mean?

[atomiccat]

Warren Buffet often mentions that a tax completely taking away property would make the economy explode. What thinks you?

Well we have property tax, so you don't really own your property you are just buying the rights to use it. our economy didn't explode. and In other words its called Feudalism.

Forcing people to work so their property isn't stolen does force people to create more wealth, but that wealth is given to people who don't deserve it, and will probably use it for destructive or wasteful purposes.

If 10 people give 10% of their wealth to 1 person is there really more wealth for everyone? no,  instead of a pie with 10/10 slices for wealth you just have 11 people sharing 10 pieces of the wealth pie.

and for my example of the usa would be
50% goes to useless bureaucrats,Destroying things,politicians, and the rich who abuse the system to give them self a semi monopoly
10% to roads and infrastructure which should be more like 5% or less if all contracts were bid on instead of given away
10% given to people who cant work, wont work, or are just cheating the system
and the other 30% goes to productive people

with little to no government and with current technology most Productive peoples standard of living would probably more then double

[mikehz]

In my hometown of Monsey, private building of sidewalks and bypass streets for pedestrians surpassed the rate o construction of the same by city government. Not only are these privately owned paths free, theyre also higher quality then the sidewalks.

a question I have, why is everyone so hug up on toll roads everywhere? What about toll sidewalks? Your take...

In my town (and, I believe, most places) sidewalks are built by private companies under contract with the city. Oh--and the city does not "give" you sidewalks. The homeowner gets the bill. In most housing developments, the contractor is required to install streets and sidewalks, and must pay for them.