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Title: Herman Cain for President
Post by: Sarape on May 21, 2011, 08:23:40 PM
Does anyone else find Herman Cain about the most refreshing politician in the past 20 years or so?

And I think he's the man to beat Obama. I've been following him and writing about him on my website "The DeAnna Review."

I suspect most readers here like Ron Paul, and I do to. But if Paul fails, Cain is a great backup. Or a Paul-Cain team?
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: BonerJoe on May 21, 2011, 09:26:10 PM
Oh Christ.
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: SeanD on May 21, 2011, 09:41:03 PM
He struck me as Obama-ish.  Didn't really say shit but sounded damn good saying it.
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: mauiguy on May 22, 2011, 12:18:05 AM
Oh Christ.

ROTF

You fucking crack me up Joe!  :P

Oh, and fuck you.

The HJ tent is gonna be awesome!!!
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: alaric89 on May 22, 2011, 05:41:06 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain)
He seems a hell of a lot better then some, but I hope he clarifies some of his positions. If he doesn't do so he shows himself to be simply a puppet of some sort. You can't be for the gold standard and tarp at the same time. I think he is merely a opportunist.
Let me be honest though, I want the socialist to sweep all worldwide elections, thinks are going to get real no matter what we do, the last chance to save the economy was lost when the liberty dollar was seized. Better to have the obvious unapologetic statist at the helm when things go south.
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: Bill Brasky on May 22, 2011, 08:27:16 AM
Opposed to same-sex marriage. 

Pro-life, opposes choice.  Opposes Planned Parenthood. 

Favors performance incentives for teachers (pandering to Unions, their incentive is to NOT be fucking fired for POOR performance.) 

Opposes integration of Muslims into a potential White House cabinet. 

Pro-Israel.

Pro-health insurance corps. 


I think I'm gonna throw up. 
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: lucidhawk on May 22, 2011, 09:53:22 AM
Herman Cain strikes me as someone who just knows how to stroke the patriotist mind penis of lazy unintellectual America..
When I hear him speak it goes something like this:

 USA, USA, USA, American, America, America, America, America! USA, USA, American, America, America, USA, America, America! America, America, America, America! Stars and Stripes!

Admittedly even Ron Paul is guilty of quite a lot of this but what he espouses has actual substance.

Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: Turd Ferguson on May 22, 2011, 09:58:34 AM
He's just another Alan Keyes with a tad less war-mogerey and religious views.

I'd take Gary Johnson as a second choice over this guy.

Not that it really matters anyway.

Just as a side note, in that debate last month, they asked Gary Johnson about why he would legalize all drugs and he gave an answer that had to do with doing a cost vs benefit analysis study like he did in New Mexico................... the panelists and the audience alike just looked like deer in the headlights, eyes all glazed over like "wahhh?" no fucking clue, maybe 3 people clapped, otherwise .......... silence & stare. Maybe a guy way in the back yelled "come on, wheres the titties?!?!"

People, for the most part like their politicians to speak and give them a hard on while doing so. They wanna FEEL it, not have it make sense in some logical way.

Thats why we get what we get, and always will.

Romney 2012 ........... I WANNA GET MY MORMON ON!!!!!
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: John Shaw on May 22, 2011, 11:46:28 AM
Sounds like a politician.
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: Sarape on May 22, 2011, 12:54:07 PM
Yes, he sounds like a politician, but he has to sound that way to get votes. At least Herman Cain has a business background with a variety of companies and the Federal Reserve branch, Kansas City.

Ok, I don't like his social conservative message, but's that's not part of the executive branch. Maybe the realm of the Supreme Court.

I still like the guy and for now, next to Ron Paul, I'm pushing Cain.
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: BonerJoe on May 22, 2011, 12:59:26 PM
9_9
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: John Shaw on May 22, 2011, 01:01:24 PM
Yes, he sounds like a politician, but he has to sound that way to get votes. At least Herman Cain has a business background with a variety of companies and the Federal Reserve branch, Kansas City.

Ok, I don't like his social conservative message, but's that's not part of the executive branch. Maybe the realm of the Supreme Court.

I still like the guy and for now, next to Ron Paul, I'm pushing Cain.

You miss my point.

Voting is for suckers.

<<<Won't join the KKK to reform it.
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: Sarape on May 22, 2011, 01:13:53 PM
You wouldn't say "voting is for suckers" if Ron Paul were ahead in the polls.
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: Andy on May 22, 2011, 01:39:10 PM
You wouldn't say "voting is for suckers" if Ron Paul were ahead in the polls.

I would.

Side note:

I was amused to see on the wiki an "articulate" reference from a newsweek article.

Not being an American I was never quite sure how much of that meme was a joke, how much whining, and how much a genuine linguistic trend when referring to prominent non sporting/musical blacks.

Unless of course he is particularly articulate.
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: Turd Ferguson on May 22, 2011, 01:40:45 PM
You wouldn't say "voting is for suckers" if Ron Paul were ahead in the polls.
(http://www.learnamericanenglishonline.com/images/boy%20at%20movies%20eat%20popcorn.jpg)
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: alaric89 on May 22, 2011, 04:33:16 PM
I want Jimmy Carter to run again, after the collapse at least he can do the White House maintenance himself.
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: Turd Ferguson on May 22, 2011, 05:04:42 PM
I want Jimmy Carter to run again, after the collapse at least he can do the White House maintenance himself.

Plus he grows one mean peanut.
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: John Shaw on May 22, 2011, 06:47:21 PM
You wouldn't say "voting is for suckers" if Ron Paul were ahead in the polls.

You're goddamned right I would.

Ron Paul is a crabby old pro life, anti immigration has-been.

Being the most moral member of mafia is still being in the mafia. Ron Paul is in the mafia.

As for voting - I'm not even registered, I can't walk into the polls while carrying, and I won't go into buildings without a firearm unless I have no choice. No way, no how.

One man can't change the world. If one man could change the world I'd be arguing for a dictatorship rather than a free society.

Ron Paul won't save you.

(http://chattypics.com/download.php?file=RonPaulJesus_zn2a0gfuus2b90egcv2d.jpg)
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: Fred on May 22, 2011, 06:53:14 PM
You wouldn't say "voting is for suckers" if Ron Paul were ahead in the polls.

You're goddamned right I would.

Ron Paul is a crabby old pro life, anti immigration has-been.

Being the most moral member of mafia is still being in the mafia. Ron Paul is in the mafia.

As for voting - I'm not even registered, I can't walk into the polls while carrying, and I won't go into buildings without a firearm unless I have no choice. No way, no how.

One man can't change the world. If one man could change the world I'd be arguing for a dictatorship rather than a free society.

Ron Paul won't save you.

(http://chattypics.com/download.php?file=RonPaulJesus_zn2a0gfuus2b90egcv2d.jpg)



 :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: One two three on May 23, 2011, 10:07:32 AM
Does anyone else find Herman Cain about the most refreshing politician in the past 20 years or so?

And I think he's the man to beat Obama. I've been following him and writing about him on my website "The DeAnna Review."

I suspect most readers here like Ron Paul, and I do to. But if Paul fails, Cain is a great backup. Or a Paul-Cain team?

Cain is like the best of McCain and Paul combined!
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: phonon on May 24, 2011, 06:39:28 PM
Herman Cain is a former deputy chairman (1992–94) and chairman (1995–96) of the civilian board of directors to the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City.
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: lucidhawk on May 25, 2011, 12:26:00 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_Io0JK4lx8[/youtube]
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: hellbilly on May 25, 2011, 12:42:37 AM
This will result in an election based on proving how un-racist people are.. this time conservatives will be the one's carrying the trophy if Cain wins.
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: alaric89 on May 25, 2011, 01:09:39 PM

LIBERTARIANS FOR JIMMAH!
Lets Put America Out of it's Misery.
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: LTKoblinsky on May 27, 2011, 11:27:16 AM
Bah humbug on all this Paul bashing. Paul isn't meant to save the world. He's meant as a positive step for freedom in the US.  He's already said that he doesn't want the Feds involved in regulating or supporting abortion, which is a hell of a lot better 'pro-life' stance than Cain's, Romney's, or Pawlenty's. He's also said that he supports immigration and would like to have open borders after all of the negative incentives (welfare, dependence, etc...) have been removed. As for the mafia comment, I'd much rather have Paul in charge of the gang than a warhawk or control freak.
Now, Cain is a conservative Obama. He preaches all the flowery things we want to hear, but he has a lot of conservative stances that give me the heeby jeebies
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: John Shaw on May 27, 2011, 01:02:20 PM
He's meant as a positive step for freedom in the US.

He won't be. What he'll be is a large consumption of time and money that would be better spent elsewhere.

Look, he's gonna get 1-1.5% of the vote. This is what is going to happen whether he gets a nom nom nomination or not. He'll gank up the Libertarian vote, which, while statistically insignificant and will probably be directed at another useless jackoff like Bob Barr, would probably leech less money from people.

Also, "Positive step for freedom" is probably not true. If you've got a bus scheduled to drive a group of people toward the edge of a cliff, and during the trip you replace the driver who is making a steady 55mph with Ron Paul, who is willing to slow down to 10mph, you're still gonna fly off the edge of a fucking cliff, man. It'll just take longer and everyone will blame Ron Paul supporters when it happens.

You get off of the fucking bus yo.

This whole thing is nothing but another ancap/minarchist fight hidden behind the excuse of Ron Paul.

If you're a minarchist and think that voting will help you, there's probably no better choice than Ron Paul.

If you're a market anarchist or anarchocapitalist or voluntaryist or leavemethefuckaloneian like me or whatever word applies this week, who thinks it's a sucker's game and a waste of time, you'll spend your money on something more important. Like socks or pickles or a new dildo with a wiggly rabbit on it or whatever.

The idea that people will find more freedom from politicians stealing their money by giving money to a politician hurts my fucking brain.
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: Fred on May 27, 2011, 01:06:21 PM
He's meant as a positive step for freedom in the US.

He won't be. What he'll be is a large consumption of time and money that would be better spent elsewhere.

Look, he's gonna get 1-1.5% of the vote. This is what is going to happen whether he gets a nom nom nomination or not. He'll gank up the Libertarian vote, which, while statistically insignificant and probably be directed at another useless jackoff like Bob Barr, would probably leech less money from people.

Also, "Positive step for freedom" is probably not true. If you've got a bus scheduled to drive a group of people toward the edge of a cliff, and during the trip you replace the driver who is making a steady 55mph with Ron Paul, who is willing to slow down to 10mph, you're still gonna fly off the edge of a fucking cliff, man. It'll just take longer and everyone will blame Ron Paul supporters when it happens.

You get off of the fucking bus yo.

This whole thing is noting but another ancap/minarchist fight hidden behind the excuse of Ron Paul.

If you're a minarchist and think that voting will help you, there's probably no better choice than Ron Paul.

If you're a market anarchist or anarchocapitalist or voluntaryist or leavemethefuckaloneian like me or whatever word applies this week, who thinks it's a sucker's game and a waste of time, you'll spend your money on something more important. Like socks or pickles or a new dildo with a wiggly rabbit on it or whatever.

The idea that people will find more freedom from politicians stealing their money by giving money to a politician hurts my fucking brain.

Word John.
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: mauiguy on May 27, 2011, 03:08:04 PM
John Shaw- "You get off of the fucking bus yo."

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Malama Pono! (do what is right)
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: LTKoblinsky on May 27, 2011, 05:39:54 PM
John Shaw- "You get off of the fucking bus yo."

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Malama Pono! (do what is right)

Yes, but would you rather jump off the bus at 55 mph or 10 mph?
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: Turd Ferguson on May 27, 2011, 06:12:56 PM
Best thing to do would be to sabotage the bus. Put some maple syrup in the gas tank, slash the tires, potato in the exhaust pipe,  etc.

I agree with Shaw to the point that RP wont make a difference when it comes to politics. Its impossible. I just like the fact he's out there spreading the message. Who knows, maybe some statist fuck hears him speak, thinks about some things a little, changes his tune and ends up being an anarchist in the end.

For this kind of thing, he is useful.
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: LTKoblinsky on May 27, 2011, 06:45:14 PM
Best thing to do would be to sabotage the bus. Put some maple syrup in the gas tank, slash the tires, potato in the exhaust pipe,  etc.

I agree with Shaw to the point that RP wont make a difference when it comes to politics. Its impossible. I just like the fact he's out there spreading the message. Who knows, maybe some statist fuck hears him speak, thinks about some things a little, changes his tune and ends up being an anarchist in the end.

For this kind of thing, he is useful.

Very. He helped speed my conversion from Neocon to libertarian.
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: John Shaw on May 27, 2011, 08:19:44 PM
Yes, but would you rather jump off the bus at 55 mph or 10 mph?

It's a metaphor and you're stretching it too far.

Getting off of the bus consists of not voting. Poof. Off of the bus. The sooner you get off the further away you are from the explosion.

Also that is assuming that Ron Paul would ever actually win, which is silly.
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: alaric89 on May 28, 2011, 05:31:55 AM
Get everybody who wants to earn their living off the fucking bus. Offer the looters and thieves and leaches a free vacation. Aim that yellow cocksucker for the Grand Canyon, brick on the accelerator and jump.

Jimmy Carter 2012
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: LTKoblinsky on May 28, 2011, 08:37:32 AM
Who is John Galt, bitches?!
Seriously, the resulting chaos and power vacuum from a state collapse would make the likelihood of a stateless society succeeding thje current regime highly unlikely. I think Paul sees this (constantly mentioning a collapse) and is trying to do what he can to mitigate the damage it does and chance for totalitarianism ro follow.
Sorry if that wasn't completely coherent. Tapped out on my Blackberry with a gurgling babbling about 'dada' and 'goo' and 'ya' in my ear. His name's Atlas.
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: John Shaw on May 28, 2011, 10:39:34 AM
Seriously, the resulting chaos and power vacuum from a state collapse would make the likelihood of a stateless society succeeding thje current regime highly unlikely.

And who suggested that a stateless society would result from a government collapse, or that a government collapse was necessarily inevitable?

A stateless society will take generations to achieve and won't involve politicians or political action.
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: alaric89 on May 28, 2011, 10:41:13 AM
Who is John Galt, bitches?!
Seriously, the resulting chaos and power vacuum from a state collapse would make the likelihood of a stateless society succeeding thje current regime highly unlikely. I think Paul sees this (constantly mentioning a collapse) and is trying to do what he can to mitigate the damage it does and chance for totalitarianism ro follow.
Sorry if that wasn't completely coherent. Tapped out on my Blackberry with a gurgling babbling about 'dada' and 'goo' and 'ya' in my ear. His name's Atlas.
You don't get it do you? It is a lost cause.
You keep quoting the book Atlas Shrugged, it's coming true so far.  Remember, not even Galt himself thought he could save the system in the end.
He simply did what he could to speed things along so he could perhaps live in a merit based society.
I like to call it the free one. Power vacuum could be defined as anarchy.
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: Turd Ferguson on May 28, 2011, 10:53:09 AM
He simply did what he could to speed things along so he could perhaps live in a merit based society.


Thats what im talking about!

I always suggest to anyone who can get free govt cheese, welfare, SSI benefits, food stamps and all that other "help", to go ahead and do so. If it cant be fixed, which I believe to be the case, then why not just push that cocksucker over the edge as quickly as possible?

I myself dont qualify for any of these goodies. Hell, I even tried getting a govt grant for a x-mas tree farm and didn't qualify.
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: alaric89 on May 28, 2011, 10:58:20 AM
Ah shit. I was rooting for you on that one.
No porn for you. :lol:
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: LTKoblinsky on May 28, 2011, 11:22:32 AM
A power vacuum is caused by a large authority suddenly collapsing and leaving the door open for a strongman to come in and guide the indoctrinated masses. So, yes anarchy, but short lived and not the kind we would like. Like I said, one of the secondary reasons Paul is making this run is to spread the message of liberty to reduce the chance of a strongman. Speculation on my part, though.
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: Turd Ferguson on May 28, 2011, 11:46:49 AM
Cool

As long as you recognize RP as just a tool for education and not someone who will save the system, everythings good.

I mean, the system could be fixed if they put ME in charge, but "they" would never put me in charge.
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: Turd Ferguson on May 28, 2011, 11:49:36 AM
Ah shit. I was rooting for you on that one.
No porn for you. :lol:

Yeah, I was kinda looking forward to that extra couple grand per year of discretionary spending. Bummer.

Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: AbstractVagabond on May 29, 2011, 05:31:10 PM
He's meant as a positive step for freedom in the US.

He won't be. What he'll be is a large consumption of time and money that would be better spent elsewhere.

Look, he's gonna get 1-1.5% of the vote. This is what is going to happen whether he gets a nom nom nomination or not. He'll gank up the Libertarian vote, which, while statistically insignificant and will probably be directed at another useless jackoff like Bob Barr, would probably leech less money from people.

Also, "Positive step for freedom" is probably not true. If you've got a bus scheduled to drive a group of people toward the edge of a cliff, and during the trip you replace the driver who is making a steady 55mph with Ron Paul, who is willing to slow down to 10mph, you're still gonna fly off the edge of a fucking cliff, man. It'll just take longer and everyone will blame Ron Paul supporters when it happens.

You get off of the fucking bus yo.

This whole thing is nothing but another ancap/minarchist fight hidden behind the excuse of Ron Paul.

If you're a minarchist and think that voting will help you, there's probably no better choice than Ron Paul.

If you're a market anarchist or anarchocapitalist or voluntaryist or leavemethefuckaloneian like me or whatever word applies this week, who thinks it's a sucker's game and a waste of time, you'll spend your money on something more important. Like socks or pickles or a new dildo with a wiggly rabbit on it or whatever.

The idea that people will find more freedom from politicians stealing their money by giving money to a politician hurts my fucking brain.

How wrong is it for a heterosexual male to want a wiggly rabbit dildo? I seriously scare myself from time to time.
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: Turd Ferguson on May 29, 2011, 05:40:25 PM

How wrong is it for a heterosexual male to want a wiggly rabbit dildo? I seriously scare myself from time to time.
What is your avatar pic from?
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: AbstractVagabond on May 29, 2011, 07:54:11 PM

How wrong is it for a heterosexual male to want a wiggly rabbit dildo? I seriously scare myself from time to time.
What is your avatar pic from?

It's a screenshot of an old Psychic Bunny logo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lom1jJ9PY0Q
Go to 5:08 to view it.
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: Turd Ferguson on May 29, 2011, 08:04:39 PM

How wrong is it for a heterosexual male to want a wiggly rabbit dildo? I seriously scare myself from time to time.
What is your avatar pic from?

It's a screenshot of an old Psychic Bunny logo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lom1jJ9PY0Q
Go to 5:08 to view it.

Looks familiar, like something I've seen in a movie. Strange.
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: Rebel on May 29, 2011, 08:59:04 PM
I agree with LT
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: John Shaw on May 30, 2011, 03:14:05 AM
How wrong is it for a heterosexual male to want a wiggly rabbit dildo? I seriously scare myself from time to time.

Kinda terrifying looking -

(http://www.ieweekly.com/site_images_upload/story/2008/02/07/10/The-Rabbit-Dildo-FEATURES_.jpg)

(http://cheapadultsextoys.co.uk/images/utopia-rabbit.jpg)
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: AbstractVagabond on June 01, 2011, 04:26:28 PM
Ok. I'm calling foul. That first one is no rabbit dildo. That's a Poppinfresh dildo.
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: alaric89 on June 14, 2011, 12:28:03 PM
He is proving to be a pandering douchebag. Finally he might be a better candidate then Jimmy Carter after all.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/06/13/herman-cain-only-the-muslims-not-trying-to-kill-us-should-be-in-government/ (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/06/13/herman-cain-only-the-muslims-not-trying-to-kill-us-should-be-in-government/)
Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: Turd Ferguson on June 14, 2011, 12:34:33 PM
But they ALL want to kill us.

All of em.

Even the baby muslims.

Saw one sittin in  its stroller, all innocent looking, but when its mom wasn't looking, it said "I'll end you....infidel!!"


Title: Re: Herman Cain for President
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on June 14, 2011, 04:48:31 PM
But they ALL want to kill us.

All of em.

Even the baby muslims.

Saw one sittin in  its stroller, all innocent looking, but when its mom wasn't looking, it said "I'll end you....infidel!!"



No, but I'd be willing to bet money that a higher percentage of Muslims want to kill us because we're murkin than any other religious group.  But I think we're still looking at a tiny tiny minority.