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Title: He or She?
Post by: davann on August 20, 2009, 02:54:16 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,540921,00.html?test=latestnews

That is a great time either way, but to suggest this guy is a girl is like suggesting Ann Coulter or Megan Fox are girls. They all have junk.
Title: Re: He or She?
Post by: Rillion on August 20, 2009, 05:13:11 PM
The gender test "takes several weeks," and is "extremely complex"?  Ummm....how about you ask her gynecologist? 
Title: Re: He or She?
Post by: BonerJoe on August 20, 2009, 05:21:03 PM
The gender test "takes several weeks," and is "extremely complex"?  Ummm....how about you ask her gynecologist? 

Obviously there is something odd about the naughty bits if they're off doing DNA tests and body scans.
Title: Re: He or She?
Post by: One two three on August 20, 2009, 05:53:27 PM
The gender test "takes several weeks," and is "extremely complex"?  Ummm....how about you ask her gynecologist? 

Obviously there is something odd about the naughty bits if they're off doing DNA tests and body scans.

Taking lots of AAS will likely make the clitoris grow quite a bit.
Title: Re: He or She?
Post by: davann on August 20, 2009, 06:04:08 PM
The gender test "takes several weeks," and is "extremely complex"?  Ummm....how about you ask her gynecologist? 

Obviously there is something odd about the naughty bits if they're off doing DNA tests and body scans.

Taking lots of AAS will likely make the clitoris grow quite a bit.

What is AAS? Anabolic ? Steroids?
Title: Re: He or She?
Post by: Ecolitan on August 20, 2009, 06:05:18 PM
The gender test "takes several weeks," and is "extremely complex"?  Ummm....how about you ask her gynecologist? 

Obviously there is something odd about the naughty bits if they're off doing DNA tests and body scans.

Taking lots of AAS will likely make the clitoris grow quite a bit.

it's not a huge leap to think that individual might have beenborn with a questionable gender status.  seperate competitions are sexist.  if you're gonna have a seperate race for people geneticaly disposed to less strength why not one for people with shorter legs?  sp women wouldn't win many races, niether do short legged people people.
Title: Re: He or She?
Post by: davann on August 20, 2009, 06:29:32 PM
The gender test "takes several weeks," and is "extremely complex"?  Ummm....how about you ask her gynecologist? 

Obviously there is something odd about the naughty bits if they're off doing DNA tests and body scans.

Taking lots of AAS will likely make the clitoris grow quite a bit.

it's not a huge leap to think that individual might have beenborn with a questionable gender status.  seperate competitions are sexist.  if you're gonna have a seperate race for people geneticaly disposed to less strength why not one for people with shorter legs?  sp women wouldn't win many races, niether do short legged people people.

Okay, step away from the PC Compendium. "Separate commpetitions are sexist"... har har har.
Title: Re: He or She?
Post by: One two three on August 21, 2009, 02:24:42 AM
Taking lots of AAS will likely make the clitoris grow quite a bit.

What is AAS? Anabolic ? Steroids?

At least in the 90s, AAS meant anabolic steroids.  The first A is for a and the second a is for a - anabolic.
Title: Re: He or She?
Post by: One two three on August 21, 2009, 02:25:57 AM
it's not a huge leap to think that individual might have beenborn with a questionable gender status.  seperate competitions are sexist.  if you're gonna have a seperate race for people geneticaly disposed to less strength why not one for people with shorter legs?  sp women wouldn't win many races, niether do short legged people people.

There is only one race.  There are two sexes.  Of course, there are also people which could be classified under the definition of either sex.
Title: Re: He or She?
Post by: libertylover on August 21, 2009, 04:51:14 AM
The gender test "takes several weeks," and is "extremely complex"?  Ummm....how about you ask her gynecologist? 

Obviously there is something odd about the naughty bits if they're off doing DNA tests and body scans.

Taking lots of AAS will likely make the clitoris grow quite a bit.

it's not a huge leap to think that individual might have beenborn with a questionable gender status.  seperate competitions are sexist.  if you're gonna have a seperate race for people geneticaly disposed to less strength why not one for people with shorter legs?  sp women wouldn't win many races, niether do short legged people people.

Next you will want to end special Olympics.  I think you can create any sporting event and include any subset of people you wish to see who is best in that subset.  IE.  A 500 yard dash for men with incredibly weak bladders.  Just don't know how they would verify qualifications for that one.
Title: Re: He or She?
Post by: Manuel_OKelly on August 21, 2009, 08:08:36 AM
The gender test "takes several weeks," and is "extremely complex"?  Ummm....how about you ask her gynecologist? 

Obviously there is something odd about the naughty bits if they're off doing DNA tests and body scans.

Taking lots of AAS will likely make the clitoris grow quite a bit.

it's not a huge leap to think that individual might have beenborn with a questionable gender status.  seperate competitions are sexist.  if you're gonna have a seperate race for people geneticaly disposed to less strength why not one for people with shorter legs?  sp women wouldn't win many races, niether do short legged people people.

Okay, step away from the PC Compendium. "Separate commpetitions are sexist"... har har har.

No he's right, if you want equality between men and women they should compete with their abilities against one another. Technically the woman in the post is the natural result of such competition, a woman with all of the body characteristics that makes her a star runner. It probably would be better to have a class system based on physical characteristics, similar to boxing/wrestling. However even in boxing they have men and women split. The best women often defeat the majority of men, so having a sex based class artificially puts them behind.
Title: Re: He or She?
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on August 21, 2009, 12:06:52 PM
The gender test "takes several weeks," and is "extremely complex"?  Ummm....how about you ask her gynecologist? 

Obviously there is something odd about the naughty bits if they're off doing DNA tests and body scans.

Taking lots of AAS will likely make the clitoris grow quite a bit.

it's not a huge leap to think that individual might have beenborn with a questionable gender status.  seperate competitions are sexist.  if you're gonna have a seperate race for people geneticaly disposed to less strength why not one for people with shorter legs?  sp women wouldn't win many races, niether do short legged people people.

Okay, step away from the PC Compendium. "Separate commpetitions are sexist"... har har har.

No he's right, if you want equality between men and women they should compete with their abilities against one another. Technically the woman in the post is the natural result of such competition, a woman with all of the body characteristics that makes her a star runner. It probably would be better to have a class system based on physical characteristics, similar to boxing/wrestling. However even in boxing they have men and women split. The best women often defeat the majority of men, so having a sex based class artificially puts them behind.
I agree and disagree.  Back in HS when I did track and cross country, I was about average for males on my team.  But I was faster than EVERY SINGLE female.  By at least 10 seconds on the mile.  And our female team was #1 in our region.  It's not a competition for the males to be put in with the females in that sport, because even the fastest females couldn't come close to an average male.  Different sports are different though.  In shooting I can't see any reason to separate men from women. 
Title: Re: He or She?
Post by: fatcat on August 21, 2009, 12:24:48 PM
If people genetically predisposed to be better at sports should be kept in a separate competition, then why the hell are black males allowed to compete with white males in the sprint? Given that there hasn't been a white male to rank in the 100m sprint for decades.

I'd like to see a completely open sports competition, including open use of absolutely any chemical or mechanical aids.

Hell if we're going to glorify throwing sticks and running fast as some sort of super achievement, we might as well try and push the envelope.
Title: Re: He or She?
Post by: BonerJoe on August 21, 2009, 12:27:21 PM
If people genetically predisposed to be better at sports should be kept in a separate competition, then why the hell are black males allowed to compete with white males in the sprint? Given that there hasn't been a white male to rank in the 100m sprint for decades.

You wouldn't hear Jesse Jackson complaining about that kind of segregation, lol.
Title: Re: He or She?
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on August 21, 2009, 12:37:39 PM
If people genetically predisposed to be better at sports should be kept in a separate competition, then why the hell are black males allowed to compete with white males in the sprint? Given that there hasn't been a white male to rank in the 100m sprint for decades.

I'd like to see a completely open sports competition, including open use of absolutely any chemical or mechanical aids.

Hell if we're going to glorify throwing sticks and running fast as some sort of super achievement, we might as well try and push the envelope.

Black males are actually genetically predisposed to being faster runners, yet white people still win against blacks in the sprint.  There's enough competition in this case to not warrant any segregation. 

And I kinda agree that open use of chemical and mechanical aids would make these sports more interesting, but I'm still on the fence because that eliminates or at least reduces the genetic selection factor that leads to stronger and faster competitors naturally.  I'd certainly be open to having separate leagues of open use and non-use.
Title: Re: He or She?
Post by: One two three on August 21, 2009, 01:03:13 PM
If people genetically predisposed to be better at sports should be kept in a separate competition, then why the hell are black males allowed to compete with white males in the sprint?

Maybe because races don't exist.  Maybe because the white folks that pushed for something like that would be thought of as pathetic by many folks.  Maybe because it's still possible (and happens extremely often, although less commonly at the Olympics) for a white male to beat a black male in the sprint.
Title: Re: He or She?
Post by: BonerJoe on August 21, 2009, 02:11:32 PM
Maybe because races don't exist.

The Free State doesn't exist.
Title: Re: He or She?
Post by: One two three on August 24, 2009, 11:14:55 PM
Maybe because races don't exist.

The Free State doesn't exist.

That's sort of true.  There is no place on earth that is even close to free.  However, NH is the freest place I know of in the industrialized world.  It's called the Free State because it was selected in the vote by FSP folks.
Title: Re: He or She?
Post by: BonerJoe on August 24, 2009, 11:17:16 PM
However, NH is the freest place I know of in the industrialized world.

LOL.

Title: Re: He or She?
Post by: rabidfurby on August 24, 2009, 11:29:42 PM
However, NH is the freest place I know of in the industrialized world.

LOL.



Dude, there were like over two thousand people who voted, and a whole bunch of them agreed that NH was the best and stuff. Doesn't that make it true?
Title: Re: He or She?
Post by: BonerJoe on August 24, 2009, 11:30:48 PM
However, NH is the freest place I know of in the industrialized world.

LOL.



Dude, there were like over two thousand people who voted, and a whole bunch of them agreed that NH was the best and stuff. Doesn't that make it true?

Hey, you moved there.
Title: Re: He or She?
Post by: One two three on August 26, 2009, 11:41:29 PM

Hey, you moved there.

And so it be.
Title: Re: He or She?
Post by: rabidfurby on August 27, 2009, 12:19:45 AM
And so it be.

You need a breathalyzer interlock attached to your computer.

Hey, you moved there.

Mostly for my job, and because I wanted to live somewhere other than the place I'd lived all my life.
Title: Re: He or She?
Post by: Kevin Freeheart on August 27, 2009, 06:56:11 PM
I don't have a problem per se with gender seperated sports, though I do disagree with the idea that a certain group of people is better suited. I used to believe that "black people better athlete's" thing based off of my highly scientific study of the NBA and the NFL. There are just as many dumpy, unathletic blacks as there are whites.

I've heard some suggestion that American black people are better suited for athletics because "stronger" ones were bred during the time of slavery. These people will also tend to point out that only in the NBA are a bunch of rich white men allowed to buy, sell and trade strong black men who will in turn make them lots and lots of money.

The studies show this is wrong too.

I will say that, on the subject of gender seperation, with transgendered people becoming more and more visible in society, and more and more likely to enter sports, it's really really stupid. I have to really wonder how important gender is to the "spirit of competition" if you require genetic testing in order to tell. If you need testing that exact to qualify or disqualify someone, it's a good indicator that the gender line is unneeded.

And, in fitting with the "He or She" threat topic... This chick is 17 as of today and was born a man. I think it's a remarkable transition.

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Title: Re: He or She?
Post by: One two three on August 27, 2009, 09:19:07 PM
And so it be.

You need a breathalyzer interlock attached to your computer.

I appreciate the complement.  BTW, Do you attend any of the three regular pro-freedom events in Nashua?
Title: Re: He or She?
Post by: rabidfurby on August 28, 2009, 08:35:04 PM
And so it be.

You need a breathalyzer interlock attached to your computer.

I appreciate the complement. 

wat

BTW, Do you attend any of the three regular pro-freedom events in Nashua?

Nope.
Title: Re: He or She?
Post by: kalmia on August 29, 2009, 01:14:24 AM
However, NH is the freest place I know of in the industrialized world.

LOL.



Dude, there were like over two thousand people who voted, and a whole bunch of them agreed that NH was the best and stuff. Doesn't that make it true?

Hey, you moved there.

You moved there for a few days.