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Harry Potter the anarchist
« on: April 04, 2011, 01:46:33 PM »

So I just finished reading the entire "Harry Potter" series for the first time.  They were entertaining books, surprisingly.  I'm reading them aloud to my wife, now, and she seems to be enjoying them, as well.

Mulling over the grand storyline, I get the idea that, to some extent, the books promote anarchy (the idea of "no government" rather than the popular conception of "violent chaos", of course).  The wizards have a government body, the Ministry of Magic, that passes laws for the wizarding world, and there is no group more contemptible present in the books.  Even Voldemort, the archvillain, is dealt with more sympathetically than Cornelius Fudge, the buffoonish "Wizard Prime Minister".  The wizard's government is borderline Big Brother, and becomes more so as the story advances.  Rules passed in the 19th century and earlier that were intended to "keep people safe" actually make the wizards more vulnerable.  The most odious character in the book is a government official who takes over the school and practices low-level torture on students.  Meanwhile, the students (with the implicit, then explicit, support of Dumbledore, the Headmaster) form a secret group to train themselves in the skills they need to fight Dark Magic, since the government passed laws forbidding the students from learning how to defend themselves. 

The characters themselves display an anarchist bent.  Harry is continually breaking school (and later, government) rules in order to figure out what's going on, who is behind it, and to stop the insanity.  Dumbledore, the Headmaster, is pretty much the same way.  He acknowledges at one point that he wanted to go into the government, but that he discovered what a monster he would become in that position, and so has remained rather at the school, even though multiple opportunities existed for him to accept the prime minister position, as well as pressure from friends and fans for him to do so.  A review of the 6th book compared Dumbledore to Churchill, but this comparison is false, because of Dumbledore's rejection of government power.  Dumbledore's familiar (a phoenix) is named Fawkes.
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Re: Harry Potter the anarchist
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2011, 05:50:17 PM »

I'll take The Shire of Middle Earth any day: The Mayor's job was to run the Postal Service, fill vacancies of The Shirriffs (4 per Farthing, 16 total) and presided over banquets. The Thane (King) called out The Hobbit Muster (militia) but basically did nothing else. The Master of Brandy-Hall was simply a landed gentry head of the Buckland Hobbits (for the most part). A simple society with virtually no government will see people prosper.
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Re: Harry Potter the anarchist
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2011, 06:46:02 PM »

I'll take The Shire of Middle Earth any day: The Mayor's job was to run the Postal Service, fill vacancies of The Shirriffs (4 per Farthing, 16 total) and presided over banquets. The Thane (King) called out The Hobbit Muster (militia) but basically did nothing else. The Master of Brandy-Hall was simply a landed gentry head of the Buckland Hobbits (for the most part). A simple society with virtually no government will see people prosper.

Not surprising, since Tolkien admitted to being an anarchist (sort of): 
http://www.ghostofaflea.com/archives/012824.html
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Re: Harry Potter the anarchist
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2011, 01:22:57 AM »

Oh crud, oh crud, oh crud....

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Re: Harry Potter the anarchist
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2011, 08:28:58 AM »

I'm a total shameless nerdy Harry Potter fanboy.  I have all but the latest DVD and I'll have that as soon as I find a good deal on it.

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Re: Harry Potter the anarchist
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2011, 09:08:11 AM »

I'm a total shameless nerdy Harry Potter fanboy.  I have all but the latest DVD and I'll have that as soon as I find a good deal on it.

I just finished reading "Goblet of Fire" to my wife, and started "Order of the Phoenix".  I read them through myself a couple of months ago.  We've got to get a move on, so that we can finish the books, finish the movies, and show up on July 15 dressed as Lupin and Tonks.
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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2011, 09:09:36 AM »

I'm a total shameless nerdy Harry Potter fanboy.  I have all but the latest DVD and I'll have that as soon as I find a good deal on it.

I just finished reading "Goblet of Fire" to my wife, and started "Order of the Phoenix".  I read them through myself a couple of months ago.  We've got to get a move on, so that we can finish the books, finish the movies, and show up on July 15 dressed as Lupin and Tonks.

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Re: Harry Potter the anarchist
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2011, 02:22:58 PM »

I read them all to my daughter.

I agree, there is a serious undercurrent of "law is irrelevant, good guys don't need it and bad guys ignore it".

The endless bureaucratic rules in book 5, that students simply ignore, as well as the take-over of the Ministry of Magic by the 'bad guys' in book 7, were perfect examples of "arbitrary power".

Note that real figures of authority, like Dumbledore, are not infallible, and they don't lord it over others. They have authority because they are authorities and give good instructions, not because they have power.
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