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Title: Handwriting
Post by: voodoo on October 15, 2010, 01:31:19 AM
As a kid, I worked in the family lumber yard and helped my father and grandfather at the drafting board.  It was second nature to me to use an ink pen for invoices and a pencil for everything else, always printing.

In high school, senior comp or some class like that, I was downgraded by the teacher for using a pencil and printing.  I was told, "you'll never survive college."  Joke's on her, as I went to an engineering school where everyone used a pencil and printed.

But, that was a couple of years ago.  It just occurred to me, though, I can't remember the last time I saw a handwritten note (other than from my grandmother) in cursive.

Does anyone write any more (excluding signatures)?
Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: BonerJoe on October 15, 2010, 01:35:49 AM
I can barely write any more, after using computers for so many years. And when I do, I have to write in all capital letters to be legible.
Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: slayerboy on October 15, 2010, 03:03:17 AM
I can barely write any more, after using computers for so many years. And when I do, I have to write in all capital letters to be legible.

Same here.  Hell I can't even sign my name legible, never have been able to.  Doctors have better signatures than I do.
Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: Diogenes The Cynic on October 15, 2010, 03:17:27 AM
I write all the time, but never use cursive.
Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: Andy on October 15, 2010, 03:37:11 AM
I can write legibly and reasonably quickly in lower case, but certainly not anything fancy like proper cursive.

I was always getting shit about it in school to though. Never improved, but I think everyone else's got worse.
Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: alaric89 on October 15, 2010, 04:12:33 AM
I had to relearn cursive when my daughter was having trouble with it in school. I seldom use it though.
Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on October 15, 2010, 05:36:03 AM
I haven't used pure cursive since elementary school.  When taking notes in biochem I will occasionaly use a blend of cursive and print for speed, but I doubt its useful to anybody but myself.  If I'm handrwriting for someone else it will be in print.
Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: Mr. Binary on October 15, 2010, 05:50:30 AM
I'm a programmer, so I type all day, but I offset it by making notes in cursive.
I have a nice Lamy Studio filled with Noodler's for that.
Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on October 15, 2010, 10:45:48 AM
I started working in software around the time I started engineering school and worked my way though school for the better part of a decade.  I found that by the time I took the graduate writing test (an essay they made us write as a literacy requirement) my writing capability had already seriously deteriorated.  

What I remember most from that damned test is that I hadn't written so much by hand since early high school (because in late high school, I typed reports on a typewriter) and my hands were the sorest I ever remember.  They were cramping up at the end.

I gave myself tennis elbow while building closets in the basement over the summer, from turning so damned many screws (even with the power drill) but even that wasn't as hard on my hands, as I recall.

Having written almost exclusively notes, a few words at a time, since then, I'm sure my writing strength is now far worse.


Oh, I do occasionally force my self to write in longhand so I don't somehow lose the skill (my writing was never much good anyway.)
Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: anarchir on October 15, 2010, 12:21:33 PM
I've always thought that cursive was one of the dumber things we learned in school. It has little practical knowledge outside of class and we could have been learning math or science or better reading skills at that young age (3rd grade?). I hand-write myself notes and essays and schemes all the time. Perhaps my writing is still OK because I still use checks, enjoy writing on college ruled paper, and I love good pen. I rate the pens I find on a 1-10 scale sometimes if they're good enough :)
Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: Pizzly on October 15, 2010, 01:38:03 PM
We probably had to learn cursive just to fill in time, since teachers don't want to be bothered nowadays with actual teaching.
Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: Rillion on October 15, 2010, 01:40:02 PM
I've got books and books full of notes I've been taking over the past few years from various talks and lectures, so my handwriting is holding up pretty well.   Never in cursive, though, except for signatures and the occasional "z" because I just like how it looks. 

My father was forced in school to switch from writing with his left to his right hand, which might be why he now writes in blocky all-caps like an architect.  Nobody tried to stop me from being a lefty so I write pretty normally, but almost wish I wrote like that:

(http://mirage.geckoandfly.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/architect_bold_font_hand_writing.jpg)
Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: Branlin on October 15, 2010, 04:35:20 PM
Heh, interesting subject.

My handwriting was never good, but I've always been good at printing. Especially after taking drafting long before computers came on the scene.

Now? LOL, the only thing I write by hand are shopping lists, or little reminder notes around my work PC. Anything more than that I do it on the PC and print it out, if I need a hard copy. I don't even LIKE to write any more. :(
Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: Riddler on October 15, 2010, 07:01:17 PM
in another generation, there won't be writing utensils, 'cept in the museums
mark (w/ a keypad please) my words
Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: mikehz on October 15, 2010, 07:45:47 PM
I handwrite a lot. I'm a compulsive note-taker.

Several years ago, I thought I might be "fun" to write a novel in cursive, the way I used to years ago before word processors. I'd forgotten just how much work it was! Of course, I then had to input the entire 80K-word text into the computer.
Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: mrapplecastle on October 15, 2010, 09:21:03 PM
I started writing a little bit a couple weeks ago in cursive, just because it had been so long I wanted to see if my penmanship had deteriorated any, it hasnt.
Its awesome.
Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: Bill Brasky on October 17, 2010, 12:12:18 AM


You wanna see a look of abject horror on someones face, sign their document right across the whole fucking thing like you're on a galloping horse and got no time for this shit.  Not in that little four-inch blank space where you're supposed to sign.  BappityPOW, ten inches long, four inches high, longways.  Really throw it like you mean it, like a rock star signing a tit with a Sharpie. 






Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: BonerJoe on October 17, 2010, 12:39:37 AM
lol
Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: mrapplecastle on October 17, 2010, 12:59:11 AM


You wanna see a look of abject horror on someones face, sign their document right across the whole fucking thing like you're on a galloping horse and got no time for this shit.  Not in that little four-inch blank space where you're supposed to sign.  BappityPOW, ten inches long, four inches high, longways.  Really throw it like you mean it, like a rock star signing a tit with a Sharpie. 







I do this, I especially like making it so sloppy, you can tell what the fuck was written or by whom.
Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: Riddler on October 17, 2010, 03:02:10 AM
retard-write
Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: freeAgent on October 17, 2010, 08:59:45 AM
I learned how to write in cursive in elementary school.  I never used it after that, except to sign my name and write out those stupid statements that they require on some tests (like the SAT).  My cursive is pretty bad, and it takes me forever to write in it.  My fine motor skills in general are pretty much the suck.  I took notes in school and did problem sets using print, so that's still ok.  The only thing I hand write now are short notes to myself on occasion and grocery lists.  I don't even attempt to make my signature legible.  It is literally a series of scribbles after the first two letters.  It is a consistent series of scribbles, though...most of the time :P
Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: anarchir on October 17, 2010, 02:26:45 PM
Yeah same here my signature has digressed to the first letter of my name followed by some bumpy letters then a larger bump to signify the start of my last name.
Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: Bill Brasky on October 17, 2010, 10:31:33 PM
 

My handwriting has remained basically consistent, but it has deteriorated a tad.  My handwriting is an eclectic amalgamation of cursive and blocky print, with a generous smattering of swoops.  I think handwriting analysts call them kickstands, when they fall to the low side.  I also rake my script backwards, which shows streamlining, a go-with-the-flow nature. 

I think I'm on my fourth or fifth edition of signature, which is constantly in evolution.  It amuses me to look back on very old documents and see a previous incarnation of signature. 

I don't really put much faith in the psychoanalysis of a persons handwriting, getting down to a micro scale.  But on the larger picture, you can get a read on the basic person.  If they're smart or stupid, or hurried or mellow. 

Another thing that interests me is, girls can write so vastly different than boys.  A fourteen year old boy can never write in that bursting sunshine that is teenaged girls handwriting.  Never.  Never never never.  Never in a million years, never. 


Heres my tip of the day.  Get writing samples from a hundred hot 16 year old girls.  Overlay the individual letters, and boil it down to its averages.  Like they did with the perfect face.  Make that font, and sell it for millions.  Call it Prettygirl. 
Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: Turd Ferguson on October 17, 2010, 11:06:01 PM
circumstances can definitely affect your handwriting


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/VWDROlOG3-s?fs[/youtube]
Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: Diogenes The Cynic on October 18, 2010, 04:30:11 AM


My handwriting has remained basically consistent, but it has deteriorated a tad.  My handwriting is an eclectic amalgamation of cursive and blocky print, with a generous smattering of swoops.  I think handwriting analysts call them kickstands, when they fall to the low side.  I also rake my script backwards, which shows streamlining, a go-with-the-flow nature. 

I think I'm on my fourth or fifth edition of signature, which is constantly in evolution.  It amuses me to look back on very old documents and see a previous incarnation of signature. 

I don't really put much faith in the psychoanalysis of a persons handwriting, getting down to a micro scale.  But on the larger picture, you can get a read on the basic person.  If they're smart or stupid, or hurried or mellow. 

Another thing that interests me is, girls can write so vastly different than boys.  A fourteen year old boy can never write in that bursting sunshine that is teenaged girls handwriting.  Never.  Never never never.  Never in a million years, never. 


Heres my tip of the day.  Get writing samples from a hundred hot 16 year old girls.  Overlay the individual letters, and boil it down to its averages.  Like they did with the perfect face.  Make that font, and sell it for millions.  Call it Prettygirl. 


Male/female difference. The trade off for low fine-motor skills is greater precision in gross-motor skills. Women can write better, and I'm sure use a soldering iron better, but we can control a car more easily. 
Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: Riddler on October 18, 2010, 07:52:54 AM
plus we can pee standing up.
Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on October 18, 2010, 12:45:00 PM
They can too.  It's just not...customary.  :wink:
Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: YixilTesiphon on October 18, 2010, 01:09:37 PM
I haven't written in cursive since middle school, but I do handwrite a lot since I take notes better that way and I have to do a lot of math with annoying symbols.

I write better Greek symbols than the normal alphabet.
Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: LoveFreedomAndLiberty on July 30, 2011, 11:57:16 PM
Some schools will no longer teach cursive handwriting:

http://tribstar.com/news/x1435410216/Archaic-Method-Cursive-writing-no-longer-has-to-be-taught
Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: alaric89 on July 31, 2011, 06:18:23 AM
in another generation, there won't be writing utensils, 'cept in the museums
mark (w/ a keypad please) my words
Were going to have a nice little tech reversal when we have to live on the fringes and cobble shit together old school to get by.* For my part I make damn sure my kids can write legitably.
*Like the Cubans who get things done do now.
Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: Turd Ferguson on July 31, 2011, 08:28:55 PM
My handwriting, soon after high school, turned into some weird hybrid of cursive and print. I just think it looks better than either on its own. I'll connect a few letters cursive style, then maybe a vowel all on its own in the middle. then more cursive.

Seems to be the fastest way for me, when I need to write something analog, which isnt very often.
Title: Re: Handwriting
Post by: Lindsey on July 31, 2011, 08:54:11 PM
Yeah, my handwriting is kind of a combo between cursive and print.  I think I have good handwriting though.   :D