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Re: Haarp, Chemtrails, Conspiracy theories And more!
« Reply #31 on: July 27, 2008, 04:04:34 AM »

Government stockpiling food, yet it is illegal in the USA to have more then a 30 day supply on hand (By Executive order)

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=70281

USA has owns Zimbabwe?
USA Taking peoples property in Zimbabwe if they "Interfere in Democracy"

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/07/20080725-5.html

And here is a bunch of Bush's Executive orders


http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/orders/

Probably more executive orders then any other "president" in history  :shock:

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« Reply #33 on: July 30, 2008, 04:03:57 PM »

Government stockpiling food, yet it is illegal in the USA to have more then a 30 day supply on hand (By Executive order)

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=70281

Sorta. You can buy one year kits online with no trouble. Most Mormons have a year of food stowed away. There's a whole market for that.

http://beprepared.com/Default.asp?bhcd2=1217448022
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« Reply #34 on: July 30, 2008, 04:28:43 PM »

bush Signed an executive order that says each household cannot have more then a 30 or 90 day supply of food in their house ( cannot remember which, it isn't being enforced yet but.... says you can goto jail for a long time for just having food.

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« Reply #35 on: July 30, 2008, 04:37:03 PM »

well didn't find that one but here is one saying that they own all the food

http://standeyo.com/News_Files/Exec.Orders/EO.10998.html

here is one saying they own all forms of transportation

http://standeyo.com/News_Files/Exec.Orders/EO.10999.html

Government owns all forms of Media ( Look out Free talk live )

http://standeyo.com/News_Files/Exec.Orders/EO.10995.html

and here our my sources on the ones above

http://millennium-ark.net/News_Files/Exec.Orders/EOs.html

http://standeyo.com/News_Files/Exec.Orders/EOs.html

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« Reply #36 on: July 30, 2008, 04:43:39 PM »

well didn't find that one but here is one saying that they own all the food

http://standeyo.com/News_Files/Exec.Orders/EO.10998.html

No it doesn't. It gives power to the Secretary of Agriculture to order and maintain stockpiles of food, farming equipment, and firefighting equipment in the case of an emergency. I just read it. It is quite clear.
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« Reply #37 on: July 30, 2008, 04:47:27 PM »

well i bet they will think stockpiling will include taking your food or probably farmers food / crops in case of "emergencies"

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« Reply #38 on: July 30, 2008, 04:50:56 PM »

well i bet they will think stockpiling will include taking your food or probably farmers food / crops in case of "emergencies"

This is an expenditures order. There is nothing about requisitioning civilian property. It is an order giving a dude the power to buy stuff.

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These plans and programs shall be designed to develop a state of readiness in these areas with respect to all conditions of national emergency, including attack upon the United States.

I'm a total antigovernment guy, but these executive orders are not what you are saying they are. You really need to reread them.
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« Reply #39 on: July 30, 2008, 04:52:04 PM »

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here is one saying they own all forms of transportation

http://standeyo.com/News_Files/Exec.Orders/EO.10999.html

This is about traffic organization in case of a mass exodus from one area to another.
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« Reply #40 on: July 30, 2008, 04:53:23 PM »

Government owns all forms of Media ( Look out Free talk live )

http://standeyo.com/News_Files/Exec.Orders/EO.10995.html

This is specifically about dividing and distributing frequencies that are already owned by the government. Not civilian radio.

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« Reply #41 on: July 30, 2008, 05:00:13 PM »

I don't see where it says government Frequencies only, They can always reassign frequencies so that all of it is government only

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« Reply #42 on: July 30, 2008, 05:06:27 PM »

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SEC. 2.  Subject to the authority and control of the President, the Director of Telecommunications Management shall:

    (a) Coordinate telecommunications activities of the executive branch of the Government and be responsible for the formulation, after consultation with appropriate agencies, of overall policies and standards therefor. He shall promote and encourage the adoption of uniform policies and standards by agencies authorized to operate telecommunications systems. Agencies shall consult with the Director of Telecommunications Management in the development of policies and standards for the conduct of their telecommunications activities within the overall policies of the executive branch.

    (b) Develop data with regard to United States Government frequency requirements.

    (c) Encourage such research and development activities as he shall deem necessary and desirable for the attainment of the objectives set forth in section 6 below.

    (d) Contract for studies and reports related to any aspect of his responsibilities.

Right at the top of the order. Again, I'm not trying to bag on you here, but over and over again I see this stuff, and it almost always turns out to be an overreaction, or a misunderstanding of the text.

The gooberment is pure evil, but crying wolf when there ain't not wolf makes you look bad, not them.
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« Reply #43 on: July 31, 2008, 04:15:06 AM »

better to prove me wrong instead of them taking over all the frequencies

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« Reply #44 on: July 31, 2008, 05:34:42 AM »

better to prove me wrong instead of them taking over all the frequencies

Like I said, I wasn't trying to prove you wrong or bag on you or anything. I was just helping you to avoid embarrassment. People get emails and stuff all the time that make extravagant claims about government wrongdoing, and when it's true, it's important to know, but sometimes people half read or kinda skim through this stuff, and then they pass it on and people get all confused and shit.

There really ought to be a Libertarian version of Snopes.
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