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Re: Guy sells private island to finance libertarian cause
« Reply #135 on: May 12, 2009, 01:51:56 PM »

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A group of Free State Project members also formed the Free Town Project, which is not affiliated with the Free State Project. This group sparked a minor panic in Grafton, New Hampshire after rumors began circulating that the group was planning on taking over the town.[13]
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Re: Guy sells private island to finance libertarian cause
« Reply #136 on: May 16, 2009, 05:46:20 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Town_Project
That is a pretty bad summary.

Feel free...
I don't work for free any more.
I should add at least a couple things. Like a link to the letter that was sent out before the meeting and some of the media coverage. I need to find the audio...

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/6184/anonletter.pdf


Libertarians set sights on Grafton
Land purchase and Internet chat are the talk of the town
The Free Town Project is an offshoot of the Free State Project. Members hope to make Grafton a laboratory to test their unconventional ideas.
By DANIEL BARRICK
Monitor staff
June 12, 2004




Town not so keen on Free Towners
Residents demand answers on project's intentions
By BEVERLEY WANG
The Associated Press
June 20. 2004 8:00AM




The Grafton's messy liberation
The Boston Globe
By B.J. Roche | June 20, 2004




NPR: Town Doesn't Welcome Libertarians
from All Things Considered, Monday , June 21, 2004




Sunday, June 27, 2004
Free State 'Porcupines' fight prickly reception
By Dan Tuohy
Staff writer
Eagle Tribune

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LANCASTER -- Free State Project organizer Tim Condon huddled around a campfire pit and doled out advice to fellow Libertarians on how to interact with New Hampshire natives.

He said he saw for himself how ornery or stubborn Granite Staters can be last week when residents in Grafton objected to project members relocating to their town of about 1,200 people with the idea of "taking over."

It was just "a vicious crowd of xenophobes and rednecks," Condon, an attorney from Tampa, said Thursday

Seeing a reporter among his political pioneers -- who want 20,000 people to relocate to New Hampshire to promote limited government -- he quickly added, "That was a joke."

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Re: Guy sells private island to finance libertarian cause
« Reply #137 on: May 17, 2009, 09:46:11 AM »

Thanks blackie - so the "incident" was the FTP itself culminating with a town meeting?
Pretty much.

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This is from the Monitor article:
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"If they move in 150 registered voters," he said, "they'll control the town."

It has been 5 years - how many are there?
Maybe a couple dozen.
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Re: Guy sells private island to finance libertarian cause
« Reply #138 on: May 17, 2009, 11:41:22 AM »

Maybe i should register my cats to vote. that might help them out, and maybe one of my cats can be mayor or sheriff

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Re: Guy sells private island to finance libertarian cause
« Reply #139 on: May 18, 2009, 05:43:23 AM »



Why sell the fucking Island?!

You'd be better moving libertarians to it.


Every place already is under the control of some Local Government or other.  If that were not true then of course we would simply go there and form our own libertarian paradise.
The island is in Tampa Bay, subject to the jurisdiction of the Hillsborough County Government and the Florida State Government.  Moving there would not solve anything, since first off the County would not allow any of us to build anything there and second they would still enforce their evil Laws against Prostitution and Drugs Handling and Incest and Price Gouging.

There is no way that libertarians will ever ever ever persuade a majority of Americans to give up their pleasure of telling their neighbors how to live their lives.  The current system works exactly as the vast Majority want it to work, so there is no possibility of rousing a disaffected populace against the oppressors - the oppression is one of a Majority against a Minority, so your father's revolutionary notions won't work here.

The only solution is to go to a place where we can bring enough libertarians to outvote the shitheads so that they can no longer control the local Government.  In New Hampshire, that means a Town - preferably Grafton or Ellsworth, low enough population that we can defend ourselves against evil enforcement of evil Laws by voting for public officials who will not enforce the evil Laws and will not pass new ones.  In the West it would be a County, say Crook County WY or Loving County TX.  This is because of the way NH and TX and WY set up their Governments - most places it's the County you have to worry about, some places it's the Town, in places like California you're best off controlling both a Municipality and the surrounding County.

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