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Title: >>DEADWOOD<< it's really over, johnny
Post by: Riddler on February 18, 2009, 08:08:54 AM
apparently, there was talk, after the series ended, of a potential HBO-deal with 2) two-hour TV movies to wrap up the story.....filming was sposed to start summer of '07....
good thing i'm johnny-on-the-spot with breaking news, eh??

http://www.cinematical.com/2007/09/30/exclusive-ian-mcshane-tells-cinematical-hbo-has-scrapped-those/


EXCLUSIVE: Ian McShane Tells Cinematical HBO Has Scrapped Those 'Deadwood' Movies
Posted Sep 30th 2007 6:32PM by Ryan Stewart
Filed under: Deals, Fandom, Newsstand, HBO Films, Western

Yeah, I'm not happy about it either. Earlier today, I got a call from Ian McShane to talk about his new family fantasy movie, The Dark is Rising, and I asked him the big question Deadwood fans have been wanting to know for a while now -- was HBO just blowing smoke with its promise to wrap up the series with a couple of made-for-TV movies? Well, the answer is yes, McShane revealed to us. "I just got a call on Friday from ... a dear friend of mine, who told me that they're packing up the ranch," McShane said. "They're dismantling the ranch and taking the stuff out. That ship is gonna sail. Bonsoir, Deadwood." He went on to say that even if the movies were happening, there would be the strike to consider, and on top of that, he's committed to a filming schedule that would prevent him from doing them anytime before late next year anyway.

I told McShane that as a fan, I felt completely cheated by this move on HBO's part. "You feel cheated? Imagine how I feel!" he replied. "We all do. We all do. It was one of those one-off jobs that you do which has got an extraordinary creative brain behind it, and it kept getting better, and the actors were great. It was a fabulous place to be and work. It was a workshop cum theater cum film. It was an extraordinary time. But everything has to come to an end, babe." So, there you have it.

cocksuckers, all.

Title: Re: >>DEADWOOD<< it's really over, johnny
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on October 05, 2009, 02:20:50 AM
cocksuckers, all.

[youtube=425,350]EpsKKPuTYCI[/youtube]

:lol:
Title: Re: >>DEADWOOD<< it's really over, johnny
Post by: Riddler on October 05, 2009, 08:16:25 AM
holy cocksuckers
Title: Re: >>DEADWOOD<< it's really over, johnny
Post by: One two three on October 05, 2009, 12:24:42 PM
What a great show.  It will be missed.
Title: Re: >>DEADWOOD<< it's really over, johnny
Post by: TimSully on October 07, 2009, 09:27:00 PM
Must...watch...Deadwood.

Wu has by far the best cock-suck-ah by far.
Title: Re: >>DEADWOOD<< it's really over, johnny
Post by: Rillion on October 07, 2009, 10:00:41 PM
Must...watch...Deadwood.

Wu has by far the best cock-suck-ah by far.

Sweh-jin!
Title: Re: >>DEADWOOD<< it's really over, johnny
Post by: mikehz on October 07, 2009, 10:09:16 PM
I tried to like it, I really did. But, the anachronistic language just ruined it for me. These 19th Century characters sounded too much like they just time-dropped from 2005. For example, "fuck" did not become commonly used until the 1920s, but makes up a major component of dialog in Deadwood. I suspect the same for cocksucker.

I have no objection to the profanity--it certainly fit well in The Sopranos. But, in Deadwood, the language just did not fit the time period.
Title: Re: >>DEADWOOD<< it's really over, johnny
Post by: Bill Brasky on October 07, 2009, 10:14:54 PM
Must...watch...Deadwood.

Wu has by far the best cock-suck-ah by far.

Sweh-jin!

[youtube=425,350]FtHYAgOTIwU[/youtube]
Title: Re: >>DEADWOOD<< it's really over, johnny
Post by: Riddler on October 08, 2009, 08:30:27 AM
Must...watch...Deadwood.

Wu has by far the best cock-suck-ah by far.

Sweh-jin!

[youtube=425,350]FtHYAgOTIwU[/youtube]

i'm disappointed in mcshane's connery impression....
Title: Re: >>DEADWOOD<< it's really over, johnny
Post by: Laetitia on October 08, 2009, 09:37:45 AM
i'm disappointed in mcshane's connery impression....

Kind of looks like all the impressions in the story seem to have been done for the amusement of Sean Connery, and he seemed to enjoy the heck out of it.
Title: Re: >>DEADWOOD<< it's really over, johnny
Post by: Dewars on October 08, 2009, 09:58:33 AM
I tried to like it, I really did. But, the anachronistic language just ruined it for me. These 19th Century characters sounded too much like they just time-dropped from 2005. For example, "fuck" did not become commonly used until the 1920s, but makes up a major component of dialog in Deadwood. I suspect the same for cocksucker.

I have no objection to the profanity--it certainly fit well in The Sopranos. But, in Deadwood, the language just did not fit the time period.

I collect civil war letters. "Fuck" was most definitely a popular word in the 1860s.
Title: Re: >>DEADWOOD<< it's really over, johnny
Post by: Riddler on October 08, 2009, 10:36:06 AM
I tried to like it, I really did. But, the anachronistic language just ruined it for me. These 19th Century characters sounded too much like they just time-dropped from 2005. For example, "fuck" did not become commonly used until the 1920s, but makes up a major component of dialog in Deadwood. I suspect the same for cocksucker.

I have no objection to the profanity--it certainly fit well in The Sopranos. But, in Deadwood, the language just did not fit the time period.

I collect civil war letters. "Fuck" was most definitely a popular word in the 1860s.

''But "fuck" wasn't actually a swear-word back then. It was indecent, of course, but people only used it for the sexual act itself. ''

http://people.ischool.berkeley.edu/~nunberg/deadwood.html
Title: Re: >>DEADWOOD<< it's really over, johnny
Post by: Dewars on October 08, 2009, 01:03:25 PM
Deadwood was a great work of drama, not a history lesson in a non-fiction book.

I can see why they used the words (fuck and cocksucker) they did. 

It was a crude and vulgar time and place, and limiting themselves to period appropriate vulgar language wouldn't have had nearly the same impact on a modern audience.

My favorite example of a frontier letter was a piece of hate mail that Abe Lincoln liked to show his friends.

Quote
God damn your god damned old hellfired god damned soul to hell god damn you and goddam your god damned family's god damned hellfired god damned soul to hell and god damnation god damn them and god damn your god damn friends to hell.

God damn would have been extraordinarily shocking in the 1860s, far more than fuck or shit.  Not so much, now.

Title: Re: >>DEADWOOD<< it's really over, johnny
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on October 08, 2009, 04:58:50 PM
Wikipedia mentions this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadwood_%28TV_series%29#Use_of_profanity), and I'd agree that the show would be less enjoyable with all characters "sounding like Yosemite Sam"...  :roll:
Title: Re: >>DEADWOOD<< it's really over, johnny
Post by: Riddler on October 09, 2009, 08:52:28 AM
jesus christ.
i started this thread in FEBRUARY & you niggas let it die
NOW, 8 mos. later, you act like its new news.

fuckin A
Title: Re: >>DEADWOOD<< it's really over, johnny
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on October 09, 2009, 04:17:40 PM
jesus christ.
i started this thread in FEBRUARY & you niggas let it die
NOW, 8 mos. later, you act like its new news.

fuckin A

If only there was a Nobel Prize for bumping threads (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bump_%28Internet%29)...  :lol:

(I'd still refuse it though.  Nobel sucks ass.)


(EDIT: typo fixed)
Title: Re: >>DEADWOOD<< it's really over, johnny
Post by: Harry Tuttle on October 09, 2009, 08:14:42 PM
If only there was a Nobel Prize for pumping threads...  :lol:

It would be awarded to a democratic politician who doesn't own a computer.
Title: Re: >>DEADWOOD<< it's really over, johnny
Post by: Ecolitan on October 09, 2009, 11:12:31 PM
I tried to like it, I really did. But, the anachronistic language just ruined it for me. These 19th Century characters sounded too much like they just time-dropped from 2005. For example, "fuck" did not become commonly used until the 1920s, but makes up a major component of dialog in Deadwood. I suspect the same for cocksucker.

I have no objection to the profanity--it certainly fit well in The Sopranos. But, in Deadwood, the language just did not fit the time period.

Those cocksuckers decided that period accurate profanity wouldn't have the desired effect.  It would just sound silly and not at all profane to the modern ear.
Title: Re: >>DEADWOOD<< it's really over, johnny
Post by: Bill Brasky on October 09, 2009, 11:49:45 PM
I tried to like it, I really did. But, the anachronistic language just ruined it for me. These 19th Century characters sounded too much like they just time-dropped from 2005. For example, "fuck" did not become commonly used until the 1920s, but makes up a major component of dialog in Deadwood. I suspect the same for cocksucker.

I have no objection to the profanity--it certainly fit well in The Sopranos. But, in Deadwood, the language just did not fit the time period.

Those cocksuckers decided that period accurate profanity wouldn't have the desired effect.  It would just sound silly and not at all profane to the modern ear.

Profanity is not profanity unless it evokes the desired effect.  Evokes?  Sure, why not.  Evokes. 

The best profanity, I don't even understand it.  It has umlauts and weird german letters, and the guttural, throat scraping enunciation explodes forth in a fine spray of spittle.  Maybe a little tar-speckled phlegm. 

FICK'N DOGSHAUSSEN LAMPHELMET WHORETUNNEL GARGLECOCK!!

See?  Makes no sense at all, but you've been severely admonished.  Unquestionably delivered with a sneer, and quite possibly a flurry of obscene gestures.  Conditions permitting. 

Thats some cussin', right there.