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Free Talk Live => General => Topic started by: Turd Ferguson on June 27, 2011, 03:00:02 PM
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Illinois state Pig pulls me over for no seatbelt this weekend.
He says "Well, the good news is that seatbelt violations went from 75 bucks, down to 60."
Yay. Feels so much better when you get robbed and the guy gives back a little.
He also said, and I quote, "Yeah, we used to just go after the gang bangers for this, but they all started wearing their seatbelts, so to make up for it, we had to start going after everyone else."
All I could think of to say was "Alright, just give me my ticket........... and you guys wonder why everyone hates your guts"
Fuck-hole just looked at me all cocky with a smirk, gave me the ticket and walked away.
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move to NH!
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move to NH!
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move to NH!
But I still wanna buy my booze at a regular store. :P
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Ive been done 3 times here for the same thing. The fines are $240 plus I lose 3 points off my licence. Cunts.
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Yeah. Cops are bad.
Now that's out of the way I have a question.
Why don't you guys just wear your seatbelts?
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It's funny. On a motorcycle I wear boots, jacket, gloves, helmet, sunglasses, overpants and breathy doo rag thingy to keep my helmet from stinking. and I take them off and put them on every time I stop ('cept the boots which I may or may not change to something more comfortable when I get to my final destination, and the overpants they stay til I am where I'm going). I do this several times a day almost every day. I can rarely be bothered to buckle. I'm short, most seat belts rub on my neck. No idea where the seat belt sits on my current van, never worn it. My state has mandatory seat belt laws but not helmets.
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Yeah. Cops are bad.
Now that's out of the way I have a question.
Why don't you guys just wear your seatbelts?
I deliver pizzas. Putting your seatbelt on to drive 500m is bullshit.
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Wear it for your own personal safety. They're just assholes programmed to fuck around with the citizenry.
It doesn't matter what state you're in when you crawl out of the wreckage.
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yea, it sucks that its mandatory with a threat of a fine - just wear the sumbitch and don't give em the satisfaction!
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I wore my seat belts since 1969 until the passed a law. Then for principal I said "no more". That was maybe 20 years ago and I've had a lot of time to think about this "seat belt" safety issue. I've concluded that seat belts are not that big of a deal. The reason for my conclusion is that in order for a seat belt to provide you with ANY benefit, you have to first get into an accident of sufficient velocity for it to prevent injury. You also have to rule out all accidents where the seat belt itself will injure you (fire, drowning, and the occasional seat belt trauma). I've been driving since 1967 and I've never been in an accident where seat belts would have prevented injury. I know that this is not the case for many others out there who cannot drive defensively and get into accidents on a regular basis (you know who you are...) but even so if you run the numbers, you have to decide whether you want to use them or not.
Take the likelihood that you will be in a major accident and divide that by the percentage of time that seat belts are actually effective and you have a very slim chance of seat belts actually saving you from injury.
This said, I make my 17 y.o. wear his seat belt. I also put on my seat belt when I see one of the gang of thugs who might ticket me (never been ticketed yet).
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move to NH!
But I still wanna buy my booze at a regular store. :P
You can always drive to Mass.
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I was a member of the NH Commission on Passenger Restraints. We heard from experts in every field, and of course from asswipes from the FedGov who wanted to give us money.
Anyway, seat belts are extremely dangerous if they are against your neck -- in the event of a crash, the first thing that happens is your carotid artery gets severed, at which point at least you'll die quickly and painlessly and not have to deal with the trauma of a shattered leg.
Also it is uncommon -- but not freakishly so -- for a person without a seatbelt to be thrown clear of a car, who with a seatbelt would have been crushed & killed. This is particularly true of driver-side collisions, generally at intersections. Two different members of the NH House of Representatives gave floor speeches last year, saying that they were alive today only because they were thrown clear of their cars.
Seat belts greatly increase your chances of survival, especially in a modern car with ABS braking and proper crumple zones. All the aspects of safety in the car are designed to protect the human who is expected to be exactly where the seat belt keeps them. But used improperly, fitted improperly, or in just the wrong accident, the seat belt ensures your death.
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move to NH!
But I still wanna buy my booze at a regular store. :P
You can always drive to Mass.
Then, once again, id have to wear my seatbelt.
You just cant win.
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Also it is uncommon -- but not freakishly so -- for a person without a seatbelt to be thrown clear of a car, who with a seatbelt would have been crushed & killed.
This is exactly what happened to my 8th grade teacher, Mr Herstein, coolest Jew I ever met. Always treated us kids like adults, never told anyone what to do or gave "orders". Just let you do your thing and somehow everyone listened to him and showed respect, even the trouble makers. Nobody fucked with Mr Herstein, ever. If the school was filled with teachers like him, I'd bet serious cash that there wouldn't be a single kid that got lower than a C+ average.
He was driving his Jeep on a partially frozen road and hit an ice patch on a curve, then when the ice ended, his Jeep flipped and rolled down a ravine and he was thrown out, paralyzing him from the waist down. The jeep caught fire and blew up and he says he would have been dead if he was wearing his belt. Sure it was a freak occurence, but thats why it should be your choice A few months after the accident, he went in front of the whole school and gave a 20 min speech on choices. Talking about how his choice not to wear his seatbelt saved his life, but that another situation, it would have killed him. Said choice is necessary to be a responsible person. Without choices, you are just a slave. It was an awesome speech, even as an 8th grader listening to it.
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Your teacher was right. The choice IS the key. Not having choices kills a lot of people because people choose to follow the law instead of commen sense.
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commen sense.
careless spelling costs lives
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commen sense.
careless spelling costs lives
Det gikk gjennom stavcheck. Det er beste jeg kan gjøre. Beklager so mye.
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Seat belts greatly increase your chances of survival, especially in a modern car with ABS braking and proper crumple zones. All the aspects of safety in the car are designed to protect the human who is expected to be exactly where the seat belt keeps them. But used improperly, fitted improperly, or in just the wrong accident, the seat belt ensures your death.
This is why you should wear them. Despite the random horseshit that Gene has mathematically tried to shoehorn into his gobbledygook, the fact is, we are most likely traveling in vehicles with modern airbags. They deploy from many different spots. All are essentially ineffective if the passenger is not restrained into a position where the airbags are designed to protect.
There is always gonna be random stories of people who were thrown clear of a wreck. I had it happen myself. A seatbelt woulda killed me in one occasion.
In other occasions, they restrained me to the proper position where the airbags were effective and worked properly.
People who speak of driving "safely" have no fucking clue what they're talking about. The biggest menace on the road is the other person, which you have no control over.
There are always gonna be situations beyond the scope of preventable harm. The car looks like a mangled piece of fuck. Those arguments do not belong in the decision-making process.
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Two different members of the NH House of Representatives gave floor speeches last year, saying that they were alive today only because they were thrown clear of their cars.
Unless you are talking about something that happened in the committee you were on or something, the bill was voted on in 2009, not 2010 ;)
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People who speak of driving "safely" have no fucking clue what they're talking about. The biggest menace on the road is the other person, which you have no control over.
This is only very partially true. People who speak of driving safely have often read books about how to anticipate and avoid accidents. They may practice emergency maneuvers on a regular basis so if/when they need to act in an extreme manner they will be competent doing so. They consciously create habits of checking mirrors every several seconds so in a split second they don't need to look for an open space because they already know where it is. They cruise in the gaps between clusters of cars, not with the clusters. They decrease their speed 10mph when they observe any of the many most hazardous situations they have learned to recognize. They look in their rear view mirror more than forward when waiting to make a left turn so as to not get rearended (This one saved my life once). They make eye contact with other drivers. Fact is a defensive driver can GREATLY reduce their risk of accident by always understanding that any other vehicle on the road might do anything at any time and that it is their responsibility to have anticipated that and prepared an escape route, ALWAYS HAVE AN ESCAPE ROUTE. Also, sometimes shit happens.
People who say all of that is horseshit are not particularly safe drivers.
and... My 96 Dodge van has a non-adjustable seat belt that hits me right in the carotid artery.
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I can see both sides of this argument. On one hand, like Drifter said, a seatbelt, along with airbags, will more often than not save you in an accident, so its probably a good idea to wear one, but like Ecolitan said, they are fucking annoying to wear. To me, it feels like im driving with someone next to me putting their forearm across my chest the whole time im driving......bugs the fuck out of me, not to mention it rubbing against my neck as well. So I wear one when im traveling on the highways, partially because its more likely I'll get busted by the cops there than when im driving in town.
The town I got the ticket in was a town of about 400 population, one road in, one road going out. Speed limit 35mph anywhere in town. They have 2 cops in that town and I've never had one even look twice at me for not wearing a belt. On that particular day though, the State doucebags were doing sweeps statewide for seatbelt compliance, busting in on the local guys territory, which I found out a little too late.
Seatbelts............ good to wear, but they bother me to the point where I sometimes dont wanna wear one. Ultimately, it should be my choice if I wanna take my life into my own hands though.
Fuck the cops for trying to be my daddy.
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Yeah, there are exceptions to every rule. I understand that SOME people are very proficient. And some may even "train". You're probably talking about a tenth of one percent.
Lets stand in any mall parking lot, you can use a golf-clicker to count the ones who appear to be professionally trained drivers.
I'll use a golf-clicker to count the ones who appear to be complete fucking idiots.
I'll bet I get to a hundred before you get to five.
I am not concerned with the people who can drive. I'm concerned with the ones who can't. And more often than not, the ones who deem themselves "safe" are probably nothing more than garden-variety cautious. People ALWAYS overestimate their skills.
All the glass at red lights proves it. I know if I drive for an eight-hour shift through any city, I'll see two cars crushed together, with the cops standing around the ambulances. Both of those people probably considers themselves "good drivers".
My city, has around 40,000 residents (inside the city). Last time I had reason to inquire about a MVA, I was told they get about 10 a day. (so hold your horses mister, be more specific...) response from the desk-lady.
Thats over three thousand a year, of varying degrees of severity. Within the cop-limits of the city.
Thats a lot of smash-ups from people who consider themselves above-average, which most people do.
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I always wore my seatbelt in my firebird and the t-bird and the 240sx. They fit properly. Larger vehicles don't treat me as well.
Also.... Mirrors should be adjusted so there is no redundancy, this covers more area and eliminates blind spots. As you are pulling away from an object it should leave your drivers side mirror at the same time it enters your center mirror and leave your center as it enters your passenger side mirror. If you are looking at the same thing in 2 or even 3 mirrors you are not utilizing them properly. This means that you won't see the right or left side of your car in any mirror but that doesn't matter because what is directly beside your car was just in front of you and you should know it's there. Far more important to see into the adjacent lane right up until it enters your peripheral vision. If everyone did this I would be saved from people pulling over into my lane while on a motorcycle at least once a week. Which they do and which I am always prepared to react to and never come close to dying over. I've talked to more than one person who told me this very phenomenon is why they don't ride a motorcycle anymore. I guess it never occurred to them to simply pay better attention to assholes like brasky who think there is nothing they can do to be safer, like learning to properly adjust their mirrors.
That is the first and most important of all defensive driving techniques I ever learned and very few people know it. I have an ex-girlfriend who still has me re-adjust her mirrors whenever she sees me even when it pisses off her new boyfriend. It works. DO IT. Pretty much all motoring magazines have columns about this sort of thing which is where I learned to adjust mirrors at 12 years old. This shit is very important to me and that's the single most valuable tip I have. I'm into driving, some of you might recall. Brasky has just offended me greatly and endangered the lives of people here who don't realize how completely full of shit he usually is. I feel the need to correct it.
Mike.. If you read Goddard's comment you would see it's not about comfort. It's about a 30 mph collision cutting my carotid artery, and comfort.
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Yeah, there are exceptions to every rule. I understand that SOME people are very proficient. And some may even "train". You're probably talking about a tenth of one percent.
All the more reason YOU, and you and you, should "train". Not to is grossly irresponsible and a disservice to your children. One day a year intensive and every single moment behind the wheel of analyzing and improving your habits will make you seem professional in comparison. Driving is on the clock shit.
It's not about avoiding the professionals, it's about avoiding the assholes who would have caused a wreck if you hadn't been on the ball. That is what Gene was talking about and he was right and you said that was stupid and you should back out now cuz it's not stupid and it CAN be done.
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I can see both sides of this argument. On one hand, like Drifter said, a seatbelt, along with airbags, will more often than not save you in an accident, so its probably a good idea to wear one, but like Ecolitan said, they are fucking annoying to wear. To me, it feels like im driving with someone next to me putting their forearm across my chest the whole time im driving......bugs the fuck out of me, not to mention it rubbing against my neck as well. So I wear one when im traveling on the highways, partially because its more likely I'll get busted by the cops there than when im driving in town.
The town I got the ticket in was a town of about 400 population, one road in, one road going out. Speed limit 35mph anywhere in town. They have 2 cops in that town and I've never had one even look twice at me for not wearing a belt. On that particular day though, the State doucebags were doing sweeps statewide for seatbelt compliance, busting in on the local guys territory, which I found out a little too late.
Seatbelts............ good to wear, but they bother me to the point where I sometimes dont wanna wear one. Ultimately, it should be my choice if I wanna take my life into my own hands though.
Fuck the cops for trying to be my daddy.
I feel pretty much the same way. The way I try to rationalize the legal aspect is, think of all the things you can't do. Can't hang out the windows and drive with your feet. Stuff like that.
I do know cops really dislike shoveling up guts. So they kinda have a hard-on for it.
"The roads" are a touchy subject in Libertopia. They believe in making rules to use them. Some of those rules are actually not wrong. Like driving a Ninja at 180 through town is askin' for trouble. And if I saw someone get hauled for it, I'd think "good", cause the guy was being a dick.
Should seatbelts be a law? No, probly not. Should insurance? No, probly not. Inspections? No, its a racket.
You could debate this shit all day. Most stuff is too severe. The ramifications are even more disgusting. But if you wanna drive, thems the rules. And I'd prefer to get to my destination without Officer Hardcock pulling me over, and sticking his microscope up my ass.
One of the reasons they really like doing that shit is to give other people a spook. When people see someone yanked, they cool their jets. That visible presence is half the reason. Its a show.
Personally, I think ALL cops should be held personally liable for everything they do, and if the defendant gets 'off', they can be counter-sued for wrongful detainment, kidnapping, threat of lethal force, lost wages, and everything else a lawyer could dream up. Then they wouldn't do anything but answer dispatches. Put a few in jail, they'd get shit straight in a hurry.
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It's not about avoiding the professionals, it's about avoiding the assholes who would have caused a wreck if you hadn't been on the ball. That is what Gene was talking about and he was right and you said that was stupid and you should back out now cuz it's not stupid and it CAN be done.
I guess you didn't see the photo of the truck I was a passenger in. Lady ran a red, we had the green. No avoiding it. 50 mph. Tore the front off.
I can drive alright, cause I grew up on video games, and made my living driving for about ten years.
I have about 20,000 on-the-clock hours. Plus all the private time.
Gene is wrong, because for every 'thing' you can avoid, there are lots of black balls in the lotto hopper.
Stop trying to pretend one persons skill will save the universe. Even professional truckers fuck up.
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Personally, I think ALL cops should be held personally liable for everything they do, and if the defendant gets 'off', they can be counter-sued for wrongful detainment, kidnapping, threat of lethal force, lost wages, and everything else a lawyer could dream up. Then they wouldn't do anything but answer dispatches. Put a few in jail, they'd get shit straight in a hurry.
Now there's a novel idea!
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Unless you are talking about something that happened in the committee you were on or something, the bill was voted on in 2009, not 2010 ;)
I stand corrected. There's a reason you were recently NHLA Activist of the Year :)
There is always gonna be random stories of people who were thrown clear of a wreck. I had it happen myself. A seatbelt woulda killed me in one occasion.
Thank God you weren't wearing your seatbelt on that occasion. A law-abiding Brasky woulda been a dead Brasky.
The most evil phrases in the English language include: "studies have shown..." and "people should..."
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Seat belts greatly increase your chances of survival, especially in a modern car with ABS braking and proper crumple zones. All the aspects of safety in the car are designed to protect the human who is expected to be exactly where the seat belt keeps them. But used improperly, fitted improperly, or in just the wrong accident, the seat belt ensures your death.
This is why you should wear them. Despite the random horseshit that Gene has mathematically tried to shoehorn into his gobbledygook, the fact is, we are most likely traveling in vehicles with modern airbags. They deploy from many different spots. All are essentially ineffective if the passenger is not restrained into a position where the airbags are designed to protect.
There is always gonna be random stories of people who were thrown clear of a wreck. I had it happen myself. A seatbelt woulda killed me in one occasion.
In other occasions, they restrained me to the proper position where the airbags were effective and worked properly.
People who speak of driving "safely" have no fucking clue what they're talking about. The biggest menace on the road is the other person, which you have no control over.
There are always gonna be situations beyond the scope of preventable harm. The car looks like a mangled piece of fuck. Those arguments do not belong in the decision-making process.
"in one occasion" ... "in other occasions" ... have you thought that maybe you might want to quit driving before your luck runs out??? (Oh, yes, I'm SURE they were all the other guy's fault :lol:)
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I guess you didn't see the photo of the truck I was a passenger in. Lady ran a red, we had the green. No avoiding it. 50 mph. Tore the front off.
50 mph! They didn't slow down 10 mph for a known danger area (we've already covered that particular driving habit that should be consciously developed). That would have significantly reduced your breaking distance and the force upon impact which increases your chances of survival...
Tore the front off?!? Are you telling me 10 ft would have avoided that accident.. 5 ft.... 3ft? 10 mph would have accomplished that and there would have been no accident. If the impact was as little as a few feet into the hood then this accident could have been avoided simply by letting off the gas and covering the brake as you approach the intersection. at 50 mph you travel 73 ft/sec, It takes a half a second to get your foot from the gas to the brake. That's 36.5 ft of braking distance you can save merely by covering the brake at intersections. Far more than enough to have avoided that accident. It's a very doable thing.
Gene is wrong, because for every 'thing' you can avoid, there are lots of black balls in the lotto hopper.
Sometimes shit happens. You CAN seriously reduce your risk. Telling people not to bother trying is disgusting. You are respected here and someone might well not bother taking driving seriously because you told them there is no point. Then they might die or be injured when they otherwise might have been saved. NO you can't guarantee perfect safety. You CAN significantly reduce your risk.
Stop trying to pretend one persons skill will save the universe. Even professional truckers fuck up.
Yes, but if they didn't take driving seriously they would fuck up far more often. Won't save the universe but might save a baby.
You sir... ARE the problem out there on the road. Such a close shave with serious injury you'd think you'd want to know how it can be avoided in the future instead of pretending that such a thing is impossible. It's not impossible. It's easy.
I'm not questioning your overall parenting but you have some weird fucked up block about taking safe driving seriously and your girls are haulin ass toward driving age no? Why wouldn't you take every single one of these tips and then find out where to get more of them and talk to them about traffic conditions and lane choice and covering the brake on the way to and fro school or whatever. Doesn't it scare the shit out of you them being out there with drivers like you? Don't you want to equip them to not die?
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I am also a defensive driver. Several of my friends said I drive like a old woman. Since I never lose my licence I have driven most of their cars on the highway. Several times they have noticed I used a lot less gas then they usually do.
Many of my friends started to drive like old women....
I use seatbelts everywhere except on farm trails and off road. If my Nissan had a cage I would be strapped in off road, as it is I would rather be able to ditch in a hurry. I wear a helmet and riding boots religiously on my crosser and snowmobile.
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One of the great quotes that came out of the seatbelt commission was delivered by the head of the NHCLU (NH branch of the ACLU). She said that the best way to ensure everyone drives safely is to require a giant metal spike be installed on the steering column of every car.
There... now everybody drives real careful
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One of the great quotes that came out of the seatbelt commission was delivered by the head of the NHCLU (NH branch of the ACLU). She said that the best way to ensure everyone drives safely is to require a giant metal spike be installed on the steering column of every car.
There... now everybody drives real careful
+1
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Speaking of defensive driving............
I think it was back sometime around 1991, I was sitting at a red light at an intersection waiting to turn left in the turning only lane. A Porter county cop was first in line, with me right behind him...... middle of winter on an icy road. Anyway, we're sitting there waiting for the left turn green light and I can see in my rear view, someone coming up behind me pretty fucking fast........ way too fast to be able to stop in time to avoid hitting the guy in front of him, which in this instance, was me. So what do I do? I get out of the turning lane and go straight to avoid the dumb fuck who obviously doesn't understand the laws of physics. BAMMMO!!! Guy smacks into the rear of the squad car instead of hitting me. Needless to say, I was all proud of myself for having that 6 seconds of foresight that allowed me to GTFO of the way, but the cop didn't share my enthusiasm unfortunately.
Maybe it was karma after all these years getting back at me for that.
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Tore the front off?!? Are you telling me 10 ft would have avoided that accident.. 5 ft.... 3ft? 10 mph would have accomplished that and there would have been no accident. If the impact was as little as a few feet into the hood then this accident could have been avoided simply by letting off the gas and covering the brake as you approach the intersection. at 50 mph you travel 73 ft/sec, It takes a half a second to get your foot from the gas to the brake. That's 36.5 ft of braking distance you can save merely by covering the brake at intersections. Far more than enough to have avoided that accident. It's a very doable thing.
Bingo. I just spent the last two years teaching my 17 y.o. to drive and I tried to teach him ALL the tricks I know (lane choice is a good example and even "riding the line" farthest from your closest threat). Even after driving for 44 years, I'm always looking for ways to avoid the idiots on the road (I call it "the lowest common denominator factor). When my son was 15 and driving on his permit with me in the passenger seat of my pickup he was t-boned by another H.S. student at an intersection. After I cooled down and made sure no one was hurt and after the police were gone, I used that experience to teach him what he should have done to avoid the accident. I saw the other car way before he did and I would have been able to avoid the accident because of physics and the way idiots drive. This is something that you gain through experience, but I tried to instruct him so that he can avoid a future accident.
And, no, I don't drive like an old man. I'm usually doing at least 10 over and I run every stop sign in sight unless there's a danger in doing so... (including ticket danger :lol:)
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I am also a defensive driver. Several of my friends said I drive like a old woman.
I wouldn't want to anyone to get the wrong idea. Once I've ensured I'm not a danger to anyone else and they are not a danger to me, I'm a bit more free than most about being a danger to myself.
And, no, I don't drive like an old man. I'm usually doing at least 10 over and I run every stop sign in sight unless there's a danger in doing so... (including ticket danger Laughing)
I like to wear BDUs on the motorcycle. Living near an Air Force Base I don't get tickets at any speed, never been caught doing anything unsafe, sometimes they'll blip their rooflights at me when I'm circling the lake. It's VERY important to be wearing the BDUs which, having no armor, limits you to the 80% rule.
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You got the right idea. I drive a car that says I'm boring, not poor but not rich. I also have veteran plates and I've passed cop cars going 10-15 over and the most I ever get is a blip of the roof lights. I slow down for a little and then keep going.
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I am also a defensive driver. Several of my friends said I drive like a old woman.
I wouldn't want to anyone to get the wrong idea. Once I've ensured I'm not a danger to anyone else and they are not a danger to me, I'm a bit more free than most about being a danger to myself.
And, no, I don't drive like an old man. I'm usually doing at least 10 over and I run every stop sign in sight unless there's a danger in doing so... (including ticket danger Laughing)
I like to wear BDUs on the motorcycle. Living near an Air Force Base I don't get tickets at any speed, never been caught doing anything unsafe, sometimes they'll blip their rooflights at me when I'm circling the lake. It's VERY important to be wearing the BDUs which, having no armor, limits you to the 80% rule.
I am almost never alone while I drive.
The only sign of BDUs I have left is some desert ones I turned into beach shorts. The fact I have them at all pisses me off. My unit shipped out to desert storm. We did the whole waiting & war thing wearing the regular green ones. As we were going back to Germany, we were issued a set of tan BDUs to have to get off the plane for a photo op. That was the only day we were allowed to wear them. Our tax dollars at work. :roll:
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My turn!
It's the first of the month and oh! the sticker on my license plate is now the wrong color. Flashing blue lights appear behind me 5 minutes after me & the kids left the house.
Licenses and stickers aren't often at the forefront of my mind so I'd totally forgotten to renew both of them. Cop tells me I'll have to park & call for a ride or call a tow truck. I tell him I'll go one more block to my exes house and park there. He says no. I point at the street sign and tell him it's right there.. I can practically see her place from where we are, literally if not for trees. No. He tells me if he sees me driving home or anywhere else he'll take me to jail. I mention the near-accident my kids and I saw while he was writing me a ticket.. a door flew off the back of a truck causing cars to slam on brakes and go around the object, a guy gets out of the truck to get the door and then has trouble crossing the street with it because of all the traffic.. the kids thought that part was funny, the cop being too busy to notice a safety hazard.. cop asks me which way the truck went so I tell him I dunno.
So if I get everything legal I can take the proof to court and not pay a fine... which makes all this seem even more pointless.
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So if I get everything legal I can take the proof to court and not pay a fine... which makes all this seem even more pointless.
You would think that in the 21st century, you know, computers, internet and stuff, they would have the court and the BMV linked so when you got the plates, the system would cancel the court date.
I mean, WTF?
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Thanks for reminding me, my sticker is overdue as well. Gotta scrape together 85 damn bucks to pay the extortion money.
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Speaking of defensive driving............
I think it was back sometime around 1991, I was sitting at a red light at an intersection waiting to turn left in the turning only lane. A Porter county cop was first in line, with me right behind him...... middle of winter on an icy road. Anyway, we're sitting there waiting for the left turn green light and I can see in my rear view, someone coming up behind me pretty fucking fast........ way too fast to be able to stop in time to avoid hitting the guy in front of him, which in this instance, was me. So what do I do? I get out of the turning lane and go straight to avoid the dumb fuck who obviously doesn't understand the laws of physics. BAMMMO!!! Guy smacks into the rear of the squad car instead of hitting me. Needless to say, I was all proud of myself for having that 6 seconds of foresight that allowed me to GTFO of the way, but the cop didn't share my enthusiasm unfortunately.
Maybe it was karma after all these years getting back at me for that.
:P Makes me laugh.
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That makes two of us.
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I just drove to my sisters house for a visit and as I was going through one of the towns a cop pulled me over because someone reported a car going through town. I ended up getting escorted out of town and told not to go through it again because I was dodging potholes in the shitty road....
I guess its easier to point a gun than fix the goddamn road.
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I just drove to my sisters house for a visit and as I was going through one of the towns a cop pulled me over because someone reported a car going through town. I ended up getting escorted out of town and told not to go through it again because I was dodging potholes in the shitty road....
I guess its easier to point a gun than fix the goddamn road.
What the fuck?
Is your town run by Boss Hogg or something?
"Sherriff, theres a car going through town"
"Dont worry maam, we'll take care of them rascally outsiders"
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lol no shit..