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Title: FSPNascar.com
Post by: Lothar on February 18, 2011, 03:04:23 PM
www.fspnascar.com
Anyone know if there is a way to vote that doesn't involve the need for Flash?
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: Fred on February 18, 2011, 03:09:14 PM
shouldn't need it
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: Lothar on February 18, 2011, 09:48:13 PM
How would I go about voting without the use of Flash?  When I try now, it says that Flash is required.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on February 19, 2011, 03:08:00 AM
Someone tickle this thread once a day so I remember to vote.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on February 20, 2011, 12:56:59 AM
tickle

since no one else did
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: Lothar on February 20, 2011, 02:36:12 AM
For whatever reason, it seems to be allowing me to vote more frequently than once every 24 hours.  I just asked a friend of mine to attempt to vote again, and he confirmed that it also let him vote again.

Almost seems like it's once every 12 hours.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: sillyperson on February 20, 2011, 06:49:42 AM
We're in 2nd place out of thousands of entries... a few hundred votes below #1
Keep clicking, people (and bots!!!!)
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on February 20, 2011, 12:11:25 PM
For whatever reason, it seems to be allowing me to vote more frequently than once every 24 hours.  I just asked a friend of mine to attempt to vote again, and he confirmed that it also let him vote again.

Almost seems like it's once every 12 hours.

Hmm...not me...I couldn't even vote last night, had to vote this morning.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: anarchir on February 20, 2011, 02:42:08 PM
OK, I was skeptical at first because it said "NASCAR" but I gave it another look today and it looks like we have a chance. Chalk up one more vote per day from me.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: sillyperson on February 21, 2011, 05:57:23 AM
Were still in the #2 spot, just about 33 votes behind. This is VERY do-able. A lot depends on people clicking EVERY DAY!
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: Turd Ferguson on February 21, 2011, 08:05:19 AM
Fuuuuuuu, ok I'll do it.............. geez. Lets win this thing and hope their car doesnt crash into the wall on the first lap.  :lol:
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: anarchir on February 21, 2011, 08:17:55 AM
I'm voting, but in case, but as I said elsewhere:
Quote
Thankfully we are ahead of three of the memorial cars (blech), but behind "I LOVE YOU DAD". According to the rules though, it doesnt matter if this round we end up in first place since the finalists get voted on again by the same popular vote. It looks like the vote is slightly rigged though so that like with the presidential elections, it is the electoral votes by those in charge who will ultimately determine the winners. Oh and the one currently in first is also a memorial car

But hey, by keeping it as one of the forerunners all the groups of people voting for the other cars will also see the FSP car.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: Lothar on February 21, 2011, 03:24:05 PM
For whatever reason, it seems to be allowing me to vote more frequently than once every 24 hours.  I just asked a friend of mine to attempt to vote again, and he confirmed that it also let him vote again.

Almost seems like it's once every 12 hours.

Whatever was going on when I wrote this doesn't seem to be going on now.  I haven't discussed it with my friend, but it does seem to be limiting me to 1 vote every 24 hours now.  If I am not mistaken, the gap between the first place car, and the FSP car, is growing.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: anarchir on February 21, 2011, 03:36:02 PM
  If I am not mistaken, the gap between the first place car, and the FSP car, is growing.

Perhaps slightly. It is at about 400 now. It seems as though the 3rd place and back runners up arent even close to catching up and their totals havent been rising at all. Perhaps they started the competition sooner?
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: anarchir on February 21, 2011, 03:37:55 PM
I tried some google searches to see if I could track down the origins of the other cars but they must not be talking about them on forums or anything from what I can see.

Edit: Yeah, so guy who the first car is in memory of used to be in a NASCAR pit crew. That explains the votes.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: anarchir on February 24, 2011, 01:36:59 AM
Ok so I reread some of the rules much closer and it appears that all of the lead cars violate the rules except maybe the 9-11 car.  :?  You cant push a political agenda or message, cant use any likeness or name, and if you are related to someone or live in the same place as someone in NASCAR you cant even participate anyway, etc. which probably disqualifies all of the votes of the competition....

Rules suck.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: sonofastitch on February 24, 2011, 09:06:45 AM
@anarchir -- Toyota has to approve each design before it's allowed into the competition.  The FSPNASCAR design was actually denied multiple times before they let it in (they didn't like "freestateproject.org" being on the car, which is why it just says "Free State Project" everywhere now :roll:).  And the Free State Project isn't really a "political" organization ... it's quite vocal about the fact that its only purpose is to get a certain type of person to move to New Hampshire.  So, technically, the FSP is not an overtly political organization, and I suspect that's why they allowed us to compete in the first place.

Regardless of whether or not we get disqualified in the next phase of the competition, the amount of people that will see the design leading up to that point could be huge ... if we keep it in a place where it's easy to see (atop the leaderboard).  Toyota is already actively advertising this contest during NASCAR telecasts, and there are already over twelve thousand entries after nine days.  It's not unrealistic to think that hundreds of thousands, potentially millions, will go to the site before the top ten are announced in early April ... and see the Free State Project near (ideally IN) the lead.

So regardless of whether or not we win ... or even make it to the next round ... the payoff could be huge.  We can only control what we control, and we control whether or not we maximize our vote.  Focus on that and don't worry about the other stuff.

KEEP VOTING and KEEP PUSHING.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: anarchir on February 24, 2011, 12:55:45 PM
Thanks for the good news! I did not know that they accepted us. BUMP! Vote daily, and get others to vote as well.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: anarchir on February 25, 2011, 02:31:31 AM
BUMP, we are still not in the lead dammit!
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: sonofastitch on February 25, 2011, 03:06:20 PM
Bump  :D  we're getting close!
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: Riddler on February 25, 2011, 05:32:17 PM
i'm not votin', lessn' there's a place we kin tailgate, grill fatty animal parts & git loaded....

or would that be this porcfest thing you people speak of?
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: Turd Ferguson on February 25, 2011, 06:47:03 PM
voted again today

someone post me a link to see the voting results so far......... plz

and someone get Dragline some booze and  meat product of some sort.....charred, so he'll vote on this thing
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: sonofastitch on February 25, 2011, 09:46:01 PM
Results can be viewed at http://position.fspnascar.com

(mouse over each car to see its vote total, or click on "Grid View" to see all vote totals)

Only 35 votes behind!  Vote people vote!!!!
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: anarchir on February 25, 2011, 10:06:26 PM
So...close...
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: LTKoblinsky on February 26, 2011, 12:23:27 AM
Your car is in first place. You're welcome.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: anarchir on February 26, 2011, 12:50:53 AM
YEAHHHHHHH EXPECT RETALIATORY VOTES, KEEP PUSHING TROOPS
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: sonofastitch on February 26, 2011, 05:47:41 PM
If this doesn't motivate you to vote, nothing will ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZwOy0c6fTU

Five more days.  Keep voting!
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: Ben on February 27, 2011, 02:23:11 AM
If this doesn't motivate you to vote, nothing will ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZwOy0c6fTU

Five more days.  Keep voting!

Cool video. I threw in another vote last night. FSP car was 71 votes in the lead. Here's hoping we all get to see the black and yellow roaring around the track. Hopefully one of the free to air digital channels broadcasts it here so if all goes as we hope I'll get to see it live too.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: anarchir on February 27, 2011, 02:26:08 AM
BUMP! Voted again.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: atomiccat on February 28, 2011, 04:41:27 AM
And the Fsp car takes the lead!
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: Turd Ferguson on February 28, 2011, 11:19:11 AM
And the Fsp car takes the lead!


(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c284/xzekqutioner/jimcarrydance5fh10vg.gif)
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: sonofastitch on March 01, 2011, 09:52:28 AM
Bump.  Only two days left!  Please vote and share!  http://fspnascar.com
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: anarchir on March 01, 2011, 11:56:45 AM
So far ahead, keep going!
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: Turd Ferguson on March 01, 2011, 07:11:25 PM
I deal with a company with a tech field support center that has between 15-25 tech guys in the office on any given day. Sent an email to the manager who I know pretty well and asked him to spam this to  tier 1 (the guys that do the support). Told him I'd buy the whole office pizza if they click this button everyday. They agreed. Little do they know I was gonna buy them lunch anyway.  :lol: They all "promised" to do it every day.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: yamnuska on March 02, 2011, 02:56:19 AM
FSP car - 6518

Love you dad - 5459

State Police - 1728

Kicking ass! My guess is the bastards will go for a support the troops one/USMC or some other statist shite. The porcupine on the hood is just pure awesomeness. Just imagine all the down home beer swilling chicken wing eatin types who would see this, hell, it may spark a revolution. Who's going to end up driving it? Ricky Bobby?
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: sonofastitch on March 02, 2011, 08:05:45 AM
Last day!  If you haven't voted yet, please throw one in.  http://fspnascar.com
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: Turd Ferguson on March 02, 2011, 08:27:16 AM
FSP car - 6518

Love you dad - 5459

State Police - 1728

 Who's going to end up driving it? Ricky Bobby?

I think Jerry should drive it.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBQ2305fLeA[/youtube]
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: The ghost of a ghost of a ghost on March 02, 2011, 10:42:29 AM
You know what is going to happen.

The FSP car will win, someone will complain it broke the rules.

The second place car will be declared victor by default.

Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: anarchir on March 03, 2011, 11:48:15 AM
You know what is going to happen.

The FSP car will win, someone will complain it broke the rules.

The second place car will be declared victor by default.



Most of the top ten are breaking the rules. I checked personally. You cant use other peoples names or likenesses without their permission (living or dead), so all the memorial ones are out. You cant represent an organization (FSP, the police, the military, etc).  But, apparently the judges already decided that we are OK with regards to the rules, and thus we compete.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on March 03, 2011, 12:18:44 PM
I think I have a straight take.  Libertarian types are so used to being screwed in elections and what not that we expect to get screwed.

Voting's closed.  Now what happens?
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: Lothar on March 03, 2011, 02:27:43 PM
I just realized that each design has 15 days to get as many votes as it can.  There are 14 days left in this contest.  Anyone know if there is another FSP one to focus on now?  I hope the 2nd place car has also ran out of time, but it seems like they've gained a bit since yesterday.

I will attempt to find another FSP car, and if I do, I will post a link here.  Maybe we can get two in the top 10.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: anarchir on March 03, 2011, 03:08:47 PM
I just realized that each design has 15 days to get as many votes as it can.  There are 14 days left in this contest.  Anyone know if there is another FSP one to focus on now?  I hope the 2nd place car has also ran out of time, but it seems like they've gained a bit since yesterday.

I will attempt to find another FSP car, and if I do, I will post a link here.  Maybe we can get two in the top 10.

Yeah thats how it is apparently, but I read the rules and didnt realize it worked that way. If we could get another car up there starting today, we have plenty of time and our first victory should give us some momentum.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on March 03, 2011, 03:33:04 PM
I just realized that each design has 15 days to get as many votes as it can.  There are 14 days left in this contest.  Anyone know if there is another FSP one to focus on now?  I hope the 2nd place car has also ran out of time, but it seems like they've gained a bit since yesterday.

I will attempt to find another FSP car, and if I do, I will post a link here.  Maybe we can get two in the top 10.

Yeah thats how it is apparently, but I read the rules and didnt realize it worked that way. If we could get another car up there starting today, we have plenty of time and our first victory should give us some momentum.

I wouldn't assume victory, as there could be cars that haven't even been entered yet which would conceivably have enough time to beat the FSP car.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: Ben on March 03, 2011, 04:23:45 PM
I think the 2nd placed car is out of time too now.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: Ben on March 21, 2011, 06:01:38 PM
FSP car lost the lead.

http://www.sponsafier.com/#/gallery/page:0/sort:vote/pageSize:12/ (http://www.sponsafier.com/#/gallery/page:0/sort:vote/pageSize:12/)
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: anarchir on March 21, 2011, 07:20:45 PM
I cant get the FSP Nascar thing to load at all today. Also, my fucking computer wont recognize my microphone. I'm about ready to toss this piece of junk out the window. Its seriously making me angry.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: yamnuska on March 22, 2011, 03:28:53 AM
How the hell did lyme disease awarness get so many votes?
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: Ben on March 22, 2011, 03:35:41 AM
I cant get the FSP Nascar thing to load at all today. Also, my fucking computer wont recognize my microphone. I'm about ready to toss this piece of junk out the window. Its seriously making me angry.

Sorry to hear that. Yeh computers are ace at pissing a person off. My bloody desktop wont recognise a video capture device I bought and it just decides to jump off the network at random intervals. It is old though so I kind of forgive it.

All cars in the top 5 are out of time for voting except the Lyme Disease Awareness car which is first and has 9335 votes and 4 days left to be voted on. The Free State Project car got 6891 and is still second. Then Chelsea's Hope 3rd with 6749. Then the Love You Dad car.

At least the statist and "patriotic" cars are out of the top 5. The State Police one is 12th now.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: Ben on March 22, 2011, 03:37:33 AM
How the hell did lyme disease awarness get so many votes?

Yeh thats what I'm wondering too. It was only just in front of the FSP car when I had a quick look this morning before work.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: anarchir on March 22, 2011, 03:39:26 PM
How the hell did lyme disease awarness get so many votes?

Yeh thats what I'm wondering too. It was only just in front of the FSP car when I had a quick look this morning before work.

Winning this next round is going to be tough then. I'm thinking bribery, computer labs, and to figure out how Lymes disease got so far ahead so we can mimic their process. They have to have some trick up their sleeve to rise that fast.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: anarchir on March 22, 2011, 03:49:53 PM
We might be fucked, it looks like they have the whole medical community on their side: http://spedr.com/4g9xd

Also, this was their second year in the race, last year they were up to 14th at one time and apparently quite easily: http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/general-support/1317193-lyme-car-in-nascar   


Fffffffffff they have a lot of support.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on March 22, 2011, 04:35:55 PM
So does the FSP advertise on Alex Jones?  If they do, then I'm thinking it merits some push from him.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: anarchir on April 19, 2011, 07:04:53 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s&feature=related[/youtube]
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: Lothar on April 22, 2011, 09:27:50 AM
Just "liked" the car.  Not really sure what that's all about, but they're keeping track, so I "liked".
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: One two three on April 22, 2011, 03:09:43 PM
Just "liked" the car.  Not really sure what that's all about, but they're keeping track, so I "liked".

The FSP was never qualified to participant in this competition.  Some of us knew that a long time ago but didn't stop the parade because it was still useful as a way to promote the FSP and at least I thought that there was a slight chance that the organizers may make an exception to several of the rules for the FSP car.  Thanks for liking the car but the FSP car was excluded from the final top 10 because it didn't qualify.

At this point, I don't see any use it continuing to promote this as it does appear as the FSP can get any further free publicity from this and the organizers have made it very clear that the FSP car doesn't qualify.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on April 22, 2011, 03:20:38 PM
9/11, Spay and Neuter, and Lyme Disease are qualify though?
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: One two three on April 22, 2011, 04:58:27 PM
9/11, Spay and Neuter, and Lyme Disease are qualify though?

Have you seen the finalists? 
http://www.sponsafier.com/#/gallery/page:0/pageSize:12/sort:random/featured:finalist

Certainly, a 9/11 car would not qualify.  A 911 car did qualify, though.  Perhaps you want to look at the rules.  I read them weeks ago.

I guess in theory liking the FSP car can help.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on April 22, 2011, 08:14:42 PM
9/11, Spay and Neuter, and Lyme Disease are qualify though?

Have you seen the finalists? 
http://www.sponsafier.com/#/gallery/page:0/pageSize:12/sort:random/featured:finalist

Certainly, a 9/11 car would not qualify.  A 911 car did qualify, though.  Perhaps you want to look at the rules.  I read them weeks ago.

I guess in theory liking the FSP car can help.

Yeah. I did. That's why I referred to them.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: One two three on April 22, 2011, 10:43:14 PM
9/11, Spay and Neuter, and Lyme Disease are qualify though?

Have you seen the finalists? 
http://www.sponsafier.com/#/gallery/page:0/pageSize:12/sort:random/featured:finalist

Certainly, a 9/11 car would not qualify.  A 911 car did qualify, though.  Perhaps you want to look at the rules.  I read them weeks ago.

I guess in theory liking the FSP car can help.

Yeah. I did. That's why I referred to them.

If you looked at the list, why did you mention them?  I don't get it.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: anarchir on April 22, 2011, 11:36:58 PM
Just "liked" the car.  Not really sure what that's all about, but they're keeping track, so I "liked".

The FSP was never qualified to participant in this competition.  Some of us knew that a long time ago but didn't stop the parade because it was still useful as a way to promote the FSP and at least I thought that there was a slight chance that the organizers may make an exception to several of the rules for the FSP car.  Thanks for liking the car but the FSP car was excluded from the final top 10 because it didn't qualify.

At this point, I don't see any use it continuing to promote this as it does appear as the FSP can get any further free publicity from this and the organizers have made it very clear that the FSP car doesn't qualify.

Oh bullshit. Dont act like you knew any better than anyone else. We were specifcially told by the organization that we qualified then after they got plenty of advertising from our voting efforts they retracted the offer on their end. Bull fucking shit. We were ripped off.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: One two three on April 23, 2011, 01:40:39 AM
Just "liked" the car.  Not really sure what that's all about, but they're keeping track, so I "liked".

The FSP was never qualified to participant in this competition.  Some of us knew that a long time ago but didn't stop the parade because it was still useful as a way to promote the FSP and at least I thought that there was a slight chance that the organizers may make an exception to several of the rules for the FSP car.  Thanks for liking the car but the FSP car was excluded from the final top 10 because it didn't qualify.

At this point, I don't see any use it continuing to promote this as it does appear as the FSP can get any further free publicity from this and the organizers have made it very clear that the FSP car doesn't qualify.

Oh bullshit. Dont act like you knew any better than anyone else. We were specifcially told by the organization that we qualified then after they got plenty of advertising from our voting efforts they retracted the offer on their end. Bull fucking shit. We were ripped off.

I can tell you are angry.  Maybe take a few deep breaths.  I'm not acting like I knew anything that other people didn't know.  Heck, it was pointed out on a forum that the FSP car didn't qualify.  I read the rules and saw that the design violated several of the rules, confirming what the person posted weeks ago.

It was a good run and I'm glad for all of the free advertising the FSP got out of it.  I'm very happy about the time I spent promoting and voting.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on April 23, 2011, 04:37:11 PM
9/11, Spay and Neuter, and Lyme Disease are qualify though?

Have you seen the finalists? 
http://www.sponsafier.com/#/gallery/page:0/pageSize:12/sort:random/featured:finalist

Certainly, a 9/11 car would not qualify.  A 911 car did qualify, though.  Perhaps you want to look at the rules.  I read them weeks ago.

I guess in theory liking the FSP car can help.

Yeah. I did. That's why I referred to them.

If you looked at the list, why did you mention them?  I don't get it.

...because they have messages promoting politics...like the FSP car...
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: One two three on April 23, 2011, 09:07:12 PM
9/11, Spay and Neuter, and Lyme Disease are qualify though?

Have you seen the finalists? 
http://www.sponsafier.com/#/gallery/page:0/pageSize:12/sort:random/featured:finalist

Certainly, a 9/11 car would not qualify.  A 911 car did qualify, though.  Perhaps you want to look at the rules.  I read them weeks ago.

I guess in theory liking the FSP car can help.

Yeah. I did. That's why I referred to them.

If you looked at the list, why did you mention them?  I don't get it.

...because they have messages promoting politics...like the FSP car...
Lyme Disease Awareness and Spay and Neuter aren't promoting politics.  I have no idea of the FSP car, a 9/11 car or a Spay and Neuter car being finalist.  Really, I have no idea what you are talking about.  Are you sure you clicked on the website I gave you?
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: Ben on April 24, 2011, 05:48:23 AM
I don't think the FSP car was going to knock off the Lyme Disease car anyway. The Lyme Disease car got more than double the votes than the FSP car and more than triple the votes of most of the cars in the final round. At least the FSP got a little mileage out of this. Definitely worth it.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: anarchir on April 24, 2011, 03:39:52 PM
Just "liked" the car.  Not really sure what that's all about, but they're keeping track, so I "liked".

The FSP was never qualified to participant in this competition.  Some of us knew that a long time ago but didn't stop the parade because it was still useful as a way to promote the FSP and at least I thought that there was a slight chance that the organizers may make an exception to several of the rules for the FSP car.  Thanks for liking the car but the FSP car was excluded from the final top 10 because it didn't qualify.

At this point, I don't see any use it continuing to promote this as it does appear as the FSP can get any further free publicity from this and the organizers have made it very clear that the FSP car doesn't qualify.

Oh bullshit. Dont act like you knew any better than anyone else. We were specifcially told by the organization that we qualified then after they got plenty of advertising from our voting efforts they retracted the offer on their end. Bull fucking shit. We were ripped off.

I can tell you are angry.  Maybe take a few deep breaths.  I'm not acting like I knew anything that other people didn't know.  Heck, it was pointed out by Anarchir siting specific sources that the FSP car didn't qualify.  I read the rules and saw that the design violated several of the rules, confirming what the person posted weeks ago.

It was a good run and I'm glad for all of the free advertising the FSP got out of it.  I'm very happy about the time I spent promoting and voting.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: anarchir on April 24, 2011, 03:42:36 PM
Yes it was worth it, but its rather annoying the tomfoolery of the nascar people running the contest.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on April 24, 2011, 04:34:33 PM
9/11, Spay and Neuter, and Lyme Disease are qualify though?

Have you seen the finalists?  
http://www.sponsafier.com/#/gallery/page:0/pageSize:12/sort:random/featured:finalist

Certainly, a 9/11 car would not qualify.  A 911 car did qualify, though.  Perhaps you want to look at the rules.  I read them weeks ago.

I guess in theory liking the FSP car can help.

Yeah. I did. That's why I referred to them.

If you looked at the list, why did you mention them?  I don't get it.

...because they have messages promoting politics...like the FSP car...
Lyme Disease Awareness and Spay and Neuter aren't promoting politics.  I have no idea of the FSP car, a 9/11 car or a Spay and Neuter car being finalist.  Really, I have no idea what you are talking about.  Are you sure you clicked on the website I gave you?

Of course they are political.  Implicit in the messages is that the solution is for government to spend more of your money.  FSP isn't necessarily political.  Many signatories, such as I, are apolitical.

Yeah, that's where those cars were.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: One two three on April 24, 2011, 05:30:03 PM
9/11, Spay and Neuter, and Lyme Disease are qualify though?

Have you seen the finalists?  
http://www.sponsafier.com/#/gallery/page:0/pageSize:12/sort:random/featured:finalist

Certainly, a 9/11 car would not qualify.  A 911 car did qualify, though.  Perhaps you want to look at the rules.  I read them weeks ago.

I guess in theory liking the FSP car can help.

Yeah. I did. That's why I referred to them.

If you looked at the list, why did you mention them?  I don't get it.

...because they have messages promoting politics...like the FSP car...
Lyme Disease Awareness and Spay and Neuter aren't promoting politics.  I have no idea of the FSP car, a 9/11 car or a Spay and Neuter car being finalist.  Really, I have no idea what you are talking about.  Are you sure you clicked on the website I gave you?

Of course they are political.  Implicit in the messages is that the solution is for government to spend more of your money.  FSP isn't necessarily political.  Many signatories, such as I, are apolitical.

Yeah, that's where those cars were.

Oh, I guess things chance.  And I remember Bob Barker talking about individual people taking care of their pets for years.  That's real the extend of my exposure to those type of activists, it was all about the government not getting involved.  Maybe your experiences have been different.
Title: Re: FSPNascar.com
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on April 25, 2011, 01:05:16 AM
9/11, Spay and Neuter, and Lyme Disease are qualify though?

Have you seen the finalists?  
http://www.sponsafier.com/#/gallery/page:0/pageSize:12/sort:random/featured:finalist

Certainly, a 9/11 car would not qualify.  A 911 car did qualify, though.  Perhaps you want to look at the rules.  I read them weeks ago.

I guess in theory liking the FSP car can help.

Yeah. I did. That's why I referred to them.

If you looked at the list, why did you mention them?  I don't get it.

...because they have messages promoting politics...like the FSP car...
Lyme Disease Awareness and Spay and Neuter aren't promoting politics.  I have no idea of the FSP car, a 9/11 car or a Spay and Neuter car being finalist.  Really, I have no idea what you are talking about.  Are you sure you clicked on the website I gave you?

Of course they are political.  Implicit in the messages is that the solution is for government to spend more of your money.  FSP isn't necessarily political.  Many signatories, such as I, are apolitical.

Yeah, that's where those cars were.

Oh, I guess things chance.  And I remember Bob Barker talking about individual people taking care of their pets for years.  That's real the extend of my exposure to those type of activists, it was all about the government not getting involved.  Maybe your experiences have been different.

When I lived in California, I recall state pressure...IIRC, licenses were cheaper for fixed animals and if you got it from a pound, they were all fixed.