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Bill Brasky

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Re: Frugal Tax Resister Diaries
« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2010, 02:26:03 PM »

How can you have a trailer in the woods without paying any sort of taxes on it?

You can't. 

The best you can do is have a completely clandestine, off-grid residence, but you'll still have to pay taxes on the "unimproved" acreage. 

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« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2010, 02:28:11 PM »

How can you have a trailer in the woods without paying any sort of taxes on it?

You can't. 

The best you can do is have a completely clandestine, off-grid residence, but you'll still have to pay taxes on the "unimproved" acreage. 



Patented mining claims.
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« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2010, 04:01:20 PM »

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Can I live on it?  Building a structure on your mining claim simply for recreation or purposes other than mining is illegal.  All buildings, equipment, fences, signs, roads, any man made changes on the mining claim, must be reasonably incident to mining.  To build on a gold mining claim, you must first obtain a permit from the federal agency managing the surface, for example, the USFS or BLM.

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Are there taxes or any kind of annual dues I have to pay in order to keep my gold mining claim in good standing? Annual taxes are due and payable, in States where applicable, to the Tax Collectors Office by the end of August.  Typically, they will send you an assessment on your property(ies) in the spring followed by a bill they will send to you in July each year.   If you don't hear from them, it is still your responsibility as the claimant to be aware of your possible tax liabilities each year, contact the Tax Collectors office, and meet your annual tax requirements.  Your annual taxes are based on their total dollar assessment of your property(ies) for which they charge you approximately 1% in taxes.

The BLM also requires an annual maintenance fee of $140 to satisfy assessment requirements for your claim(s).  If you own less than 10 mining claims, actual labor can be performed to qualify as assessment required.  You're never billed or notified by the BLM.  It is your sole responsibility to meet this annual requirement when it is due, or you will lose your mining claim. 


http://www.theclaimpost.com/MiningClaimInfo.html   <<FAQ

Seems like as much trouble as owning regular unimproved land, and they'll probably be Johnny-on-the-spot checking your shit, 4WD'n all over it.  I'm not sure Fed assholes are preferable to lazy local fucks who ride past your acreage once per decade, take their $300 in fallow land tax by mail, and don't give two shits whats happening up there behind the trees. 

When theres proven reserves in the ground, which is a necessity to be granted a patented claim, you can be sure they don't want you surreptitiously leaking the findings into the market, untaxed.  At least, I know I don't have the kind of luck where I could avoid suspicion of tax avoidance, claiming no profit.  Maybe others have ways around the estimated revenue, but I could see it backfiring on me. 

Theres some verbiage in there about declaring it as a working mineral claim, yearly.  Which means you probably have to show some kinds of results, even if they're negligible. 

I'd like to know more about this, from people who have first-hand experience. 



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Re: Frugal Tax Resister Diaries
« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2010, 03:57:49 PM »

People on the Internet are getting dumber!  In the early 1990s only über-geeks like me knew how to use it.
I've been using the internet since the 80's.  I remember using gopher, ftp, email, and VMS systems.

In the 1980s I was a kid living in Moscow, lucky to have a color TV with 5 channels...

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Well, technically it was my freshman year of college in the fall of 89, but it still counts as the 80's.  Oh yeah, and we used telnet too.  This of course was before ssh was used and there really wasn't too much need for security measures...
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« Reply #34 on: August 17, 2010, 09:33:25 PM »

Tax resistance day #2316...


Bah, someone (probably a Fed),

Just PM'ed me and said:

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Please keep [this thread] updated,

I'm loving every bit of it.

You're seriously an inspiration.


Well, the problem is...

Tax resistance is fucking boring!

Especially when you're doing it alone.

And don't have millions to hide.

(That's my story and I'm sticking to it.)

I haven't heard from the IRS in like 2 years.

Since I last lived at an addy they knew about.

At least until they utilize the census data.

Like they said they won't.

They'll have more to come after me about.

But that will happen later.  Maybe.

Like if I gotta import some income.

Like from an above-ground source.

If you know what I mean.

But for now I'm good.

Soaking my gunpowder.

Keeping my beans dry.

Trolling some BSD mailing lists now.

But otherwise sitting tight.
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« Reply #35 on: August 17, 2010, 11:03:42 PM »


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Please keep [this thread] updated,

I'm loving every bit of it.

You're seriously an inspiration.


I agree with this person, assuming I didnt send you that and forget about it, which I dont think I did because I dont use the phrase "loving every bit of it."
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Re: Frugal Tax Resister Diaries
« Reply #36 on: August 17, 2010, 11:13:14 PM »

He should of said "lovin' every minute of it"
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« Reply #37 on: August 17, 2010, 11:42:03 PM »

Please keep unfrugal pop culture references off this thread.
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« Reply #38 on: August 18, 2010, 10:11:35 PM »

A good tax resister shouldn't get haircuts or shave. I'm sure we'll see some norse viking style pictures in the future.
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« Reply #39 on: August 18, 2010, 10:28:37 PM »

A good tax resister shouldn't get haircuts or shave. I'm sure we'll see some norse viking style pictures in the future.

I hope you like girls with verdant "happy trails", then...
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« Reply #40 on: August 18, 2010, 11:07:09 PM »

I now comprehend the ramifications of my statement.
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« Reply #41 on: August 18, 2010, 11:33:42 PM »

I think it is quite easy to cut your hair tax free.
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Re: Frugal Tax Resister Diaries
« Reply #42 on: August 18, 2010, 11:35:59 PM »

I think it is quite easy to cut your hair tax free.
This is true, I've done it for the past few years now, but I found it easier to just stop.
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« Reply #43 on: August 19, 2010, 06:38:08 AM »

I grew my hair very long once, and it was a hassle.  Hair soaks in and amplifies BO.  More difficult to wash, more difficult to dry, more difficult to brush, more difficult to keep from drains and stuff, etc.  So I keep it a lot shorter now - no big deal.  Haven't paid for a haircut in about 2 years.
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« Reply #44 on: August 19, 2010, 11:08:13 AM »

I grew my hair very long once, and it was a hassle.  Hair soaks in and amplifies BO.  More difficult to wash, more difficult to dry, more difficult to brush, more difficult to keep from drains and stuff, etc.  So I keep it a lot shorter now - no big deal.  Haven't paid for a haircut in about 2 years.


I had my hair styled tax-free a few weeks ago.

I say "tax-free" because my mom did crystal work on a stylist at the salon she works at, the stylist agreed to style my hair ^_^

The barter economy works.
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