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Re: Freestater Tim Logsdon
« Reply #30 on: December 02, 2009, 10:59:09 AM »


cause the innocent are never convicted...

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were you there?

did your testimony hang him...or free him?

While I realize that it's hard for you to read and comprehend articles where cops aren't being killed, Logsdon pled guilty. There was no trial, no testimony.  Just his admission that he did it.

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how can/could you ever prove the porn on your computer wasn't put there by you?

how can/could you ever prove your innocence against coached victims?

There were no innocents being coached to testify, because he admiited doing it.

There were no porn pictures.  He admitted molesting his 3 year old daughter.

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again, this is a perfect example of why FULLY INFORMED JURIES are important and why the gunvernment subverts the juries and the jury pool!

 jury selection / voir dire was designed to make sure that the jurors KNEW / HAD PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF...the defendent...not the other way around(as is done today)

after all, who better to be jurors than those who might have better knowledge of the defendent and his or her personal and intimate actions and beliefs...

even knowing that free staters have rubbed each other the wrong way...still wouldn't we feel better and more confident with free staters as jurors?

There was no jury.  He pled guilty.

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The Mobocracy Looter Minions do indeed have the means and the motive to destroy those who would come against them...

They will coach supposed victims, they will plant evidence, they will stack the jury, they will do WHATEVER might be necessary to destroy their target...

Your theory that is a vast government conspiracy falls apart when you consider the fact that he pled guilty to molesting his daughter…

There are bad people in the world.  He turned out to be one of them.

Considering how hard he preached the NAP, his guilty plea was interesting…

Run under-aged Forest, run
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Re: Freestater Tim Logsdon
« Reply #31 on: December 02, 2009, 11:24:49 AM »

LOL, stop defending him Rob. He fucking pleaded guilty.
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Re: Freestater Tim Logsdon
« Reply #32 on: December 02, 2009, 11:33:33 AM »

This belongs on the FS Drama thread

For the record I always thought he was a little creepy. I would not have guessed THAT creepy, though.

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Re: Freestater Tim Logsdon
« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2009, 01:27:02 PM »

Keep in mind that innocent folks often plead guilty as insurance against the trial lottery.

I know absolutely nothing about this particular case, nor have I even read this entire thread.
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Re: Freestater Tim Logsdon
« Reply #34 on: December 02, 2009, 01:40:43 PM »

This is the reason why this society is headed for extinction...  :x

Who in their right mind wants to have children knowing that if you touch them in the wrong spot you'll be rotting in jail for a decade or more?!

Incest was wide-spread in every culture and even institutionalized in some - until socialist demagogues used it to shame people into submission, "oh noes, we must put the state in charge of family or daddies will touch their kiddies in wrong places"...  It happens.  It beats not having been born at all.  Deal with it.

 
« Last Edit: December 02, 2009, 01:44:18 PM by Alex Libman 2.0 »
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Re: Freestater Tim Logsdon
« Reply #35 on: December 02, 2009, 01:56:43 PM »

FreeStaters should do protests in front of the jail until he is released!

Candle light vigils!
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Re: Freestater Tim Logsdon
« Reply #36 on: December 02, 2009, 02:15:38 PM »

How about a poll?  How long before the NHFree freaks start claiming that molesting your kids is a property right?  Heck, the "I have a right to torture my horses as much I want" thread is 74 pages long and is the third biggest topic on the forum.
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Re: Tim Logsdon
« Reply #37 on: December 02, 2009, 02:25:21 PM »

Since Dewars never corrected the title, I'd like to point out again that there is zero evidence that Tim is a free stater.  He was a Republican politician from NH.
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Re: Freestater Tim Logsdon
« Reply #38 on: December 02, 2009, 02:27:50 PM »

You do have a right to torture your horses, as discussed elsewhere.

Kids have a right to life, obviously, and also what I call a "right to emancipation" - you can't do anything to your kids that would keep them from being able to attain freedom (full sovereignty or transfer of custody) and/or expose you.  That is a sufficient means of balancing parental power without putting too much power over your family life in the hands of the state.
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Re: Freestater Tim Logsdon
« Reply #39 on: December 03, 2009, 03:15:40 AM »

Damn Libman... that's actually quite good

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Re: Freestater Tim Logsdon
« Reply #40 on: December 03, 2009, 10:32:35 AM »

you can't do anything to your kids that would keep them from being able to attain freedom (full sovereignty or transfer of custody) and/or expose you.

So if you're going to molest or torture your kids, just be sure to do when they're really young.
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Re: Freestater Tim Logsdon
« Reply #41 on: December 03, 2009, 12:09:14 PM »


cause the innocent are never convicted...

...

were you there?

did your testimony hang him...or free him?

While I realize that it's hard for you to read and comprehend articles where cops aren't being killed, Logsdon pled guilty. There was no trial, no testimony.  Just his admission that he did it.

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how can/could you ever prove the porn on your computer wasn't put there by you?

how can/could you ever prove your innocence against coached victims?

There were no innocents being coached to testify, because he admiited doing it.

There were no porn pictures.  He admitted molesting his 3 year old daughter.

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again, this is a perfect example of why FULLY INFORMED JURIES are important and why the gunvernment subverts the juries and the jury pool!

 jury selection / voir dire was designed to make sure that the jurors KNEW / HAD PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF...the defendent...not the other way around(as is done today)

after all, who better to be jurors than those who might have better knowledge of the defendent and his or her personal and intimate actions and beliefs...

even knowing that free staters have rubbed each other the wrong way...still wouldn't we feel better and more confident with free staters as jurors?

There was no jury.  He pled guilty.

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The Mobocracy Looter Minions do indeed have the means and the motive to destroy those who would come against them...

They will coach supposed victims, they will plant evidence, they will stack the jury, they will do WHATEVER might be necessary to destroy their target...

Your theory that is a vast government conspiracy falls apart when you consider the fact that he pled guilty to molesting his daughter…

There are bad people in the world.  He turned out to be one of them.

Considering how hard he preached the NAP, his guilty plea was interesting…

Run under-aged Forest, run




For the record I always thought he was a little creepy.
^ this

I just didn't want to be the first one to say it in the forums.  :shock:

I was thinking about the vindictive ex-wife theory and how she could have done this to better her result in the divorce. Did they even own a house? I don't think there was anything TO split as far as assets go. The only debate would be over custody. I would agree that some parents might stretch the truth about the other parent's anger, or drinking to better their outcome in a custody battle - but I find it hard to think that someone would allow the man they married - the father of her child (or children) - to go to jail for child molestation to 10 years....just to get a better custody deal. Not saying it doesn't ever happen - but as much as many people dislike or down right hate their ex, they usually won't go to such extremes. Even if she initially made accusations, I have a hard time thinking someone could follow through to the point of prison time and basically ruining his life unless something did happen.

I am not informed on his case, and can't speak to it. But if say an ex-wife makes accusations and then the situation goes farther than they imagine and the guy ends up with 10 years, then fear on her part plays a big role. Will she be charged and have to go to jail? What will happen to her children? Will he be so angry that he wants to hurt her? Will a judge give him custody as a result? How will she pay for defending herself in court? What will people think of her? I can say definitively that there is no small amount of men in prison that claim these sorts of things happen. My favorite story is: the guy takes the drunk driving rap for his girlfriend (it later turns into Vehicular Homicide) and gets ten years. Shortly after he gets the sentence signed sealed and delivered, she stops writing and can't afford the phone calls anymore. Wouldn't you know it, some friends of his see a friend of his consoling her on multiple occasions.


http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/044188.html

http://www.freedominourtime.blogspot.com/


the goon-squad thugsters have never proven themselves to be trustworthy...

our bet is that they told him that they would arrest, convict, and send away his ex also...if he didn't plead out...

then his children would become wards of the state, to be adopted out and subsequently abused by foster care-takers...

maybe they could just be sent to live with a priest or preacher or minister...cause they're always upstanding care-takers of Jesus's little ones...

seriously, these are the same people who shot Vicki and Sammy Weaver and roasted the folks at WACO...

these are the same people who pursued and locked up Bill Benson, Larkin Rose, Irwin Schiff, Sherry Jackson, etc...

these are the same people who remotely pilot killer drones over foreign sovereign territories to blow-up homes, businesses, churches, and people...


never never never put anything past them


They wanted Tim worse than they wanted Randy Weaver...


and they found a way to get at him and get him and make him an example to others to perpetuate their fear factor and terror tactic...


Look at what they are doing to Brad Jardis...


Brad needs to quit being a jackboot before he suffers friendly fire or ends up being set-up or conveniently in the wrong place at the wrong time...


Remember, these thugsters are ruthless and they will become even more ruthless as their time expires...


enjoy!


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Re: Tim Logsdon
« Reply #42 on: December 03, 2009, 01:42:41 PM »

Since Dewars never corrected the title, I'd like to point out again that there is zero evidence that Tim is a free stater.  He was a Republican politician from NH.

Your devotion to your little club is touching.

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