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Re: Free Talk Live Silver Bar
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2011, 08:29:06 AM »

How many dollars under spot are these gonna cost us?  :P

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Re: Free Talk Live Silver Bar
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2011, 03:07:06 PM »

How many dollars under spot are these gonna cost us?  :P

I imagine that depends on your stripping talents and how amenable you are to waxing.

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Re: Free Talk Live Silver Bar
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2011, 05:55:25 PM »

How many dollars under spot are these gonna cost us?  :P

I imagine that depends on your stripping talents and how amenable you are to waxing.

I was taught by the master, so pretty cheap I'd guess.

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Re: Free Talk Live Silver Bar
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2011, 10:43:01 AM »

What about Shire Silver co-branding?

http://shiresilver.com/

Info on co-branding -
http://shiresilver.com/product/co_branding_fee


Silver rounds are great. But a $35 coin can be difficult to use for small stuff, like drinks or food.
Shire Silver cards fit in a wallet and are easy to use value-wise.
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Re: Free Talk Live Silver Bar
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2011, 10:49:30 AM »

How does one verify Shire Silver isn't counterfeit?  I've heard good points that someone could laminate a strip of aluminum.  At the moment, I'm finding the new laminated junk silver coins to be more appealing.

Also, if you're minting coins, isn't that moving away from the concept of Shire Silver and really a very different thing?

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Re: Free Talk Live Silver Bar
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2011, 11:11:08 AM »

How does one verify Shire Silver isn't counterfeit?  I've heard good points that someone could laminate a strip of aluminum.  At the moment, I'm finding the new laminated junk silver coins to be more appealing.

Also, if you're minting coins, isn't that moving away from the concept of Shire Silver and really a very different thing?
I don't like the idea of laminating silver pieces at all.  It's a terrible idea.  The only way to test for purity is to destroy the card!  They'll take up way more space in your wallet than just loose coins.  And it's extra labor and cost that doesn't add any value at all.
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Re: Free Talk Live Silver Bar
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2011, 11:18:08 AM »

Silver rounds are great. But a $35 coin can be difficult to use for small stuff, like drinks or food.
Shire Silver cards fit in a wallet and are easy to use value-wise.

You are confusing me by talking about rounds and coins together.  You know there is a difference, right?
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Re: Free Talk Live Silver Bar
« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2011, 12:47:44 PM »

Yeah.  the difference is that it is illegal to call something a coin unless the government issues it.  If it is a private coin then it is a round. 

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Re: Free Talk Live Silver Bar
« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2011, 01:18:18 PM »

Yeah.  the difference is that it is illegal to call something a coin unless the government issues it.  If it is a private coin then it is a round. 



True, but thats a minor infraction. The biggest no-no is putting a dollar value on it somewhere. Thats what got Nuthouse in trouble with the goons. Stay away from that.
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Re: Free Talk Live Silver Bar
« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2011, 02:40:12 PM »

How does one verify Shire Silver isn't counterfeit?  I've heard good points that someone could laminate a strip of aluminum.  At the moment, I'm finding the new laminated junk silver coins to be more appealing.

Also, if you're minting coins, isn't that moving away from the concept of Shire Silver and really a very different thing?

Defining it as "coins" versus "rounds" is something that the coin community does and we'd do best to specifically follow the correct terms.  But that is a minor deal. I heard FTL discussing "laminating coins" the other day. Putting the wrong materials around the coin can damage it over time. Usually people (including myself) put all their coins into "coin flips". Walk into a coin shop and you'll see this is what they use. Its two cardboard squares that staple over the coin with a punch-out in the middle that has a piece of slightly stretchy plastic so you can see the coins. They are cheap and easy to put on the coin so you can always take it off to check out the coin. Also, they can be written on with a pen or pencil.

http://spedr.com/iawj
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Re: Free Talk Live Silver Bar
« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2011, 02:41:29 PM »

How does one verify Shire Silver isn't counterfeit?  I've heard good points that someone could laminate a strip of aluminum.  At the moment, I'm finding the new laminated junk silver coins to be more appealing.

Also, if you're minting coins, isn't that moving away from the concept of Shire Silver and really a very different thing?

Defining it as "coins" versus "rounds" is something that the coin community does and we'd do best to specifically follow the correct terms.  But that is a minor deal. I heard FTL discussing "laminating coins" the other day. Putting the wrong materials around the coin can damage it over time. Usually people (including myself) put all their coins into "coin flips". Walk into a coin shop and you'll see this is what they use. Its two cardboard squares that staple over the coin with a punch-out in the middle that has a piece of slightly stretchy plastic so you can see the coins. They are cheap and easy to put on the coin so you can always take it off to check out the coin. Also, they can be written on with a pen or pencil.

http://spedr.com/iawj

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Re: Free Talk Live Silver Bar
« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2011, 03:58:09 PM »

How does one verify Shire Silver isn't counterfeit?  I've heard good points that someone could laminate a strip of aluminum.  At the moment, I'm finding the new laminated junk silver coins to be more appealing.

Also, if you're minting coins, isn't that moving away from the concept of Shire Silver and really a very different thing?

Reputation.
You can cut the material out and test if you wanted.
How do you know a laminated dime is really silver either?
How do you know a silver round is really silver?

I also think if one was going to take the time to print, cut, find aluminum strips, laminate, and use fake Shire Silver one would counterfiet something that would actually make profit. That's my theory.
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Re: Free Talk Live Silver Bar
« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2011, 04:13:53 PM »

Some of you guys are making this waaaay too complicated.

A simple .999 silver round would suffice.

Testing silver and gold is a relatively simple and inexpensive process, especially if they are widely being  used as currency. If they are not being widely used as currency, theres no incentive to go through all the trouble and expense of making fakes, so until you get to that point there is very little to worry about. You can use electronic or chemical testing equipment to test up to .999 percent purity if you really think someone is scaming you.

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Re: Free Talk Live Silver Bar
« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2011, 11:32:50 PM »

How does one verify Shire Silver isn't counterfeit?  I've heard good points that someone could laminate a strip of aluminum.  At the moment, I'm finding the new laminated junk silver coins to be more appealing.

Also, if you're minting coins, isn't that moving away from the concept of Shire Silver and really a very different thing?

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You can cut the material out and test if you wanted.
How do you know a laminated dime is really silver either?
How do you know a silver round is really silver?

I also think if one was going to take the time to print, cut, find aluminum strips, laminate, and use fake Shire Silver one would counterfiet something that would actually make profit. That's my theory.

Coins are guaranteed by the country they come from. Shire silver cards are so incredibly easy to fake the likelyhood of someone doing just that is quite high.
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Re: Free Talk Live Silver Bar
« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2011, 01:32:59 AM »

If it comes down to it, bars look less like "currency" and without ornamentation, it will be harder for the government to prosecute for printing as money.

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