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Title: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 02, 2009, 11:01:13 PM
Well, I've started my own blog now.  It's mainly about my weight loss journey, but I will be posting political stuff from time to time, like my latest post about the taxpayers clearinghouse video.  So far, I've lost 15.2 pounds in less than 3 weeks, and have about 115 to go.  I've posted a graph on my progress page to show my progress.  I'll also be publishing exact caloric intake and exercise output, body measurement progress, miles walked and bike ridden, photos, etc...  It's all about getting back in shape and preparing for my bike ride from Florida to New Hampshire, New Hampshire to California, then California to Florida in the next year or two.

I'm up to 32 miles a day riding and 5 miles a day walking so far...   I'm just giddy that I've finally started doing it.

The site is still a work in progress but the posts, progress, and about me sections are pretty much complete. 

Check it out and let me know!

http://www.fatnessbegone.com
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on March 02, 2009, 11:39:34 PM
Good for you!!!

Something from my personal experience:
Don't get too hung up on the exact calorie counting. It can turn a helpful tool into an unhealthy relationship with food.
Once you get a good feel for what you need, give yourself a break on the precise numbers.
Still keep the journal, if it helps you keep portions in check, and makes for healthier choices.
Do the full counting as an occasional self check, especially when you bump up the activity levels.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 02, 2009, 11:51:34 PM
Good for you!!!

Something from my personal experience:
Don't get too hung up on the exact calorie counting. It can turn a helpful tool into an unhealthy relationship with food.
Once you get a good feel for what you need, give yourself a break on the precise numbers.
Still keep the journal, if it helps you keep portions in check, and makes for healthier choices.
Do the full counting as an occasional self check, especially when you bump up the activity levels.
It really helps that I haven't eaten at a restaurant other than subway in almost 3 weeks. Also the no beer, no soda, no fried foods helps...  As far as the calorie counting goes, It's not that hard.  I just enter the food that I eat into some software, and it counts them for me.  It also keeps track of water, body measurements, exercise, etc.  It's really easy to enter a new food.  And I can enter the info on my treo and sync it back to my mac.  The software comes with a large database of foods, including restaurants and fast food in it.  So I'm relearning to make the right choices in what I eat.  As far as exercise goes, the only things I like to to do are ride bike and walk.  That's not hard for me...  The weight training and core workouts are the things that I don't like to do.  I hate gyms.  It's really easy to catch some sort of illness from someone else's sweat.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: anarchir on March 02, 2009, 11:54:50 PM
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Also the no beer, no soda, no fried foods

What? I dont know what I'd do without any ONE of those.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 03, 2009, 12:21:30 AM
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Also the no beer, no soda, no fried foods

What? I dont know what I'd do without any ONE of those.

yeah, the beer i'll miss, but then again, I just need to get in shape.  Once I hit my goal I'll be in the habit of exercising again.  And I'll be a lightweight/cheap date again...  Oh the memories.  I only got this way cause I hurt my back so badly I had to have it surgically repaired.  By the time I got the surgery and therapy, I was not able to work out for 2 years, and I fell into bad habits....  It's taken me a while to get over the trauma and fear.  You don't know pain until you've blown a disk in your back.  That's the kind of gift that keeps on giving.  24 hours, 7 days per week excruciating, never ending pain.  Very little sleep and productivity. Imagine being punched by mike tyson without a glove on every square inch of your asscheek and leg all the way down to the tip of your toes.  No add being pricked by needles all over the same areas.  That's what it was like for me. 

But yes, the beer will be missed...  The chili fries and hot wings will be missed, too.  But I need to stay away for a while.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Caveman on March 03, 2009, 12:25:11 AM
Good on ya man, im in the middle of an exercise regime as well to get fit. Don't know why i didn't put a website together for that purpose. Doh!
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: CaL DaVe on March 03, 2009, 01:23:27 AM
Great job man! Keep it up. Maintain the commitment and you will reach your goal in no time.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: anarchir on March 03, 2009, 01:45:31 AM
 :mrgreen:
Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on March 03, 2009, 07:53:51 AM
As far as the calorie counting goes, It's not that hard.  I just enter the food that I eat into some software, and it counts them for me.  It also keeps track of water, body measurements, exercise, etc.  It's really easy to enter a new food.  And I can enter the info on my treo and sync it back to my mac.  The software comes with a large database of foods, including restaurants and fast food in it.  So I'm relearning to make the right choices in what I eat. 
What software are you using? I used one of the online options for a while last year, The Daily Plate. It's got a great database of prepared and restaurant food, but I don't eat out often, and packaged foods are pretty rare - I spent tons of time entering individual foods. It was good that I did it, because I found out I wasn't eating anywhere near as many calories as I thought - but it didn't take long before I was pissy about all the time it took, as well as being tied to reaching the magic number for the day.

I'm using Lose It on the iPhone now, which lets me plug in the ingredients for a recipe, and get back nutritional information based on the number of servings. I'm using it in place of the stack of books more often, as I'm building up the number of recipes on the phone. It's good to know how much fat/protein/fiber I'm filling the family with, along with the calories. I also have customized exercises to match the data spit out by my heart rate monitor. I used it solid for one month as a calorie counter, but am now using it for the recipe features and an "on the go" exercise log. I'll probably track a few full days at a time, or one week each month, just to make sure I'm on track.

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As far as exercise goes, the only things I like to to do are ride bike and walk.  That's not hard for me...  The weight training and core workouts are the things that I don't like to do.  I hate gyms.  It's really easy to catch some sort of illness from someone else's sweat.

The more exercise I got outside in the fresh air, the stuffier, germier and smellier the gym seemed. I was completely disgusted last time I went in for weights and a treadmill run on a cold rainy day. Scrubbed down everything before & after use, which meant I spent as much time cleaning as working out. There were so many sniffling, sneezing, scratching people.... just thinking about it, I want to run off to shower.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 03, 2009, 09:09:25 AM
As far as the calorie counting goes, It's not that hard.  I just enter the food that I eat into some software, and it counts them for me.  It also keeps track of water, body measurements, exercise, etc.  It's really easy to enter a new food.  And I can enter the info on my treo and sync it back to my mac.  The software comes with a large database of foods, including restaurants and fast food in it.  So I'm relearning to make the right choices in what I eat. 
What software are you using? I used one of the online options for a while last year, The Daily Plate. It's got a great database of prepared and restaurant food, but I don't eat out often, and packaged foods are pretty rare - I spent tons of time entering individual foods. It was good that I did it, because I found out I wasn't eating anywhere near as many calories as I thought - but it didn't take long before I was pissy about all the time it took, as well as being tied to reaching the magic number for the day.

I'm using Lose It on the iPhone now, which lets me plug in the ingredients for a recipe, and get back nutritional information based on the number of servings. I'm using it in place of the stack of books more often, as I'm building up the number of recipes on the phone. It's good to know how much fat/protein/fiber I'm filling the family with, along with the calories. I also have customized exercises to match the data spit out by my heart rate monitor. I used it solid for one month as a calorie counter, but am now using it for the recipe features and an "on the go" exercise log. I'll probably track a few full days at a time, or one week each month, just to make sure I'm on track.


As far as software goes, I'm using something called diet and exercise assistant by keyoe.  It's far from perfect, but if you use palm OS, it is the best one out there.  Unfortunately, it requires winblows 98 or higher, so you will need paralells or vmware if you are using a mac.  It's awesome.  It even keeps track of blood pressure if you want to get that detailed, or your working with a doctor or personal trainer.  It's a great program.

As far as the Herat rate monitor goes, you should try to use it every time you workout without fail.  As you basal metabolic rate improves, and your weight goes down, you have to make the adjustments for the HRM to remain accurate otherwise, if you lose 100 pounds but never update your settings in the hrm, it wont calculate your caloric output correctly.  So use it. and update it with ever 25 pounds lost.  As a matter of fact, 7 more pounds and I will be making my first adjustment to the darn thing.

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As far as exercise goes, the only things I like to to do are ride bike and walk.  That's not hard for me...  The weight training and core workouts are the things that I don't like to do.  I hate gyms.  It's really easy to catch some sort of illness from someone else's sweat.

The more exercise I got outside in the fresh air, the stuffier, germier and smellier the gym seemed. I was completely disgusted last time I went in for weights and a treadmill run on a cold rainy day. Scrubbed down everything before & after use, which meant I spent as much time cleaning as working out. There were so many sniffling, sneezing, scratching people.... just thinking about it, I want to run off to shower.

Yeah, that's what keeps me out of them.  I noticed that I was always catching a cold at the gym.  Reistance bands are what I am using now, but I know I will have to join a gym sooner or later if I want my arms shoulders and chest back, sigh.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 03, 2009, 02:53:12 PM
Good on ya man, im in the middle of an exercise regime as well to get fit. Don't know why i didn't put a website together for that purpose. Doh!

I've been playing around with wordpress for about a month before i got the domain and got it.  it's pretty cool software, but it does have it's drawbacks...  Finding the right template is half the battle.  Eventually I hope to make my own, bt I've got about 10 computerbooks to get through, including 3 certifications before i get to the php book so thati can understand what is going on under the hood.

Well, it's never to late to start.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 03, 2009, 02:55:11 PM
the best way to lose weight is to go on a raw food diet.

but who is going to do that?

the truth is that if you eat more fiber and drink more water, those 2 alone will help you lose weight.

lack of fiber/water in the diet causes the "gut"

raw food?  euuu!  That's for the hippies, man.

lack of fibre and water is part of it, but caloric intake is the key, along with regular cardio and resistance training.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: mikehz on March 03, 2009, 05:26:15 PM
I think the best no-nonsense, no BS fitness site on line is Dave Draper's Iron on Line: http://www.davedraper.com/ (http://www.davedraper.com/)

The forum is an excellent source for good advice.

A strange thing happened. I found this site maybe three or four years ago, and started using the message board. Another poster, a young woman, seemed oddly familiar, and so I PMed her. turned out that she's my niece, who got into body building a few years back, and now organizes shows.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: BonerJoe on March 03, 2009, 07:03:06 PM
I'm waiting on my Worksman Urban Cruiser bicycle to be delivered that I ordered two weeks ago. Then imma get out and ride around till my fat self can't stand it no more.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Lindsey on March 03, 2009, 07:30:07 PM
I'm waiting on my Worksman Urban Cruiser bicycle to be delivered that I ordered two weeks ago. Then imma get out and ride around till my fat self can't stand it no more.

Sounds expensive. 

My goal this summer is to use our pool more often.  Until it warms up, I'm trying to get out and walk the dogs more. 
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on March 03, 2009, 07:53:47 PM
I'm waiting on my Worksman Urban Cruiser bicycle to be delivered that I ordered two weeks ago. Then imma get out and ride around till my fat self can't stand it no more.

I'm jealous. I've priced a worksman with the set up I want, but haven't quite gotten to the point where I'm ready to shell out the cash.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: BonerJoe on March 03, 2009, 08:04:09 PM
I'm waiting on my Worksman Urban Cruiser bicycle to be delivered that I ordered two weeks ago. Then imma get out and ride around till my fat self can't stand it no more.

I'm jealous. I've priced a worksman with the set up I want, but haven't quite gotten to the point where I'm ready to shell out the cash.

Well, I don't really have a choice. A normal bike just won't support my 400lb ass.

It was on sale, $100 off. Total price delivered was just under $600.

http://worksmancycles.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page54.html
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Russell Griswold on March 03, 2009, 08:06:22 PM
That is a nice bike!  :)
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Russell Griswold on March 03, 2009, 08:19:35 PM
What do you have?
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Russell Griswold on March 03, 2009, 08:47:11 PM
Oooo, Specialized...
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on March 03, 2009, 08:51:07 PM
I had to copy & paste the link to see the picture.

I bought a specialized hardrock for my son last summer. He's quite happy with it.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Lindsey on March 03, 2009, 08:57:03 PM
Wow...it's been SO long since I've ridden a bike. 
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on March 03, 2009, 09:00:57 PM
Wow...it's been SO long since I've ridden a bike. 

If you don't have a bike, find a bike shop with rentals near a park, grab a friend & go. Take along a snack, or stop for ice cream on the ride. You will be happy.
Unless there's a freak thunderstorm which pops up. Then you'll be soaked, and probably cranky.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on March 03, 2009, 09:10:58 PM
The grownup sized teen has the specialized hardrock.
The 9 & 7 year olds have Schwinns (Bike shop versions, not Wal-mart.)
We also have the Schwinn trail-bikes, which hook to adult bikes for longer family rides.
Dad has a Trek hybrid.
I have a Columbia hybrid (Patty) which has been turned into quite a nice little commuter - though I need to add a rear rack.
And a Bianchi via Nirone (Bloo) for when I'm escaping for a few hours - or the day.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 03, 2009, 10:57:46 PM
I think the best no-nonsense, no BS fitness site on line is Dave Draper's Iron on Line: http://www.davedraper.com/ (http://www.davedraper.com/)

The forum is an excellent source for good advice.

A strange thing happened. I found this site maybe three or four years ago, and started using the message board. Another poster, a young woman, seemed oddly familiar, and so I PMed her. turned out that she's my niece, who got into body building a few years back, and now organizes shows.

Thanks for the link...  I'll be looking at it in the next few days....

About the niece...  Small world, isn't it?
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 03, 2009, 11:09:39 PM
I'm waiting on my Worksman Urban Cruiser bicycle to be delivered that I ordered two weeks ago. Then imma get out and ride around till my fat self can't stand it no more.

Get a heart rate monitor.  It will help you on the quest man.  I really will.  Also, join the critical mass meetup group and other cycling groups.  It will help you stay motivated.  Oh, don't forget to get the following stuff for your bike:  2 spare innertubes, a patch kit, a pump that you can take with you for emergencies, a regular pump for home, some water bottles, 2 different kinds of locks, one a ulock, and a cable lock, some lights if you plan on riding at night and rack to carry stuff, and finally a bag to hold your emergency patches and inner tubes and stuff).
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 03, 2009, 11:11:44 PM
I'm waiting on my Worksman Urban Cruiser bicycle to be delivered that I ordered two weeks ago. Then imma get out and ride around till my fat self can't stand it no more.

Sounds expensive. 

My goal this summer is to use our pool more often.  Until it warms up, I'm trying to get out and walk the dogs more. 

I just did my personal best today 6 miles in just under 2 hours, including walking up and down a set of bleachers at the high school football stadium that most schools share down here 8 times up, 8 times down (one for each set of stairs that the bleacher had.

I'm starting to like this again.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 03, 2009, 11:22:39 PM
I'm waiting on my Worksman Urban Cruiser bicycle to be delivered that I ordered two weeks ago. Then imma get out and ride around till my fat self can't stand it no more.

I'm jealous. I've priced a worksman with the set up I want, but haven't quite gotten to the point where I'm ready to shell out the cash.
Seems like a nice bike.  Is it me or is it one of those new crank forward designs?  The pedals are not underneat the seat, but a little bit in front.  In case you didn't know, a crank forward design is a hybrid design between a recumbent (which I use) and a standard upright bike.

recumbents are the bomb.  I own a 5 year old version of the sun ez sport recumbent bike:

(http://www.bicycleman.com/recumbents/sun/images/sun_ez_sport_lg.jpg)

This is probalby the best, most comfortable bike that I have owned in my entire life.  It's a knockoff of the Easy racers gold rush bike, which at one point held the land speed record or some thing like that.  The knockoff is the same exact thing, but is mass produced to lower the price.  The gold rush is close to 3 grand, but they even make a folding one which is rather interesting.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on March 03, 2009, 11:22:49 PM
Yeah, that's what keeps me out of them.  I noticed that I was always catching a cold at the gym.  Reistance bands are what I am using now, but I know I will have to join a gym sooner or later if I want my arms shoulders and chest back, sigh.

I'll have to check out the link mikehz posted, but here's something I've been hearing great things about - http://www.monkeybargym.com/ (http://www.monkeybargym.com/)
They really make it look like fun, and the equipment is not a huge commitment, either for cash or space.

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I just sis my personal best today 6 miles in just under 2 hours, including walking up and down a set of bleachers at the high school football stadium that most schools share down here 8 times up, 8 times down (one for each set of stairs that the bleacher had.
There's no cute applause smileys, so I'll have to go with the big damn grin:
 :D
Good job.

I was a lazy ass today. Yoga and Core, in my PJs, while watching Heroes.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 03, 2009, 11:30:17 PM
I'm waiting on my Worksman Urban Cruiser bicycle to be delivered that I ordered two weeks ago. Then imma get out and ride around till my fat self can't stand it no more.

Sounds expensive. 

My goal this summer is to use our pool more often.  Until it warms up, I'm trying to get out and walk the dogs more. 

It''l be a while before I start lifting weights, I hope to take enough weight off of me where I would not be scared about hurting my back again.  It's a phycological thing, I know, but I don't want to go through that again.  If I pop what's left of my disc, I'm screwed.  They'll have to open my back and put in metal rods.  That would not be pleasant.

I just sis my personal best today 6 miles in just under 2 hours, including walking up and down a set of bleachers at the high school football stadium that most schools share down here 8 times up, 8 times down (one for each set of stairs that the bleacher had.

I'm starting to like this again.

damn! this website sounds right down your alley then: http://www.crossfit.com

my friend thats a navy seal told me about the website.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 03, 2009, 11:31:51 PM
Yeah, that's what keeps me out of them.  I noticed that I was always catching a cold at the gym.  Reistance bands are what I am using now, but I know I will have to join a gym sooner or later if I want my arms shoulders and chest back, sigh.

I'll have to check out the link mikehz posted, but here's something I've been hearing great things about - http://www.monkeybargym.com/ (http://www.monkeybargym.com/)
They really make it look like fun, and the equipment is not a huge commitment, either for cash or space.

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I just sis my personal best today 6 miles in just under 2 hours, including walking up and down a set of bleachers at the high school football stadium that most schools share down here 8 times up, 8 times down (one for each set of stairs that the bleacher had.
There's no cute applause smileys, so I'll have to go with the big damn grin:
 :D
Good job.

I was a lazy ass today. Yoga and Core, in my PJs, while watching Heroes.

Thanks.
That monkey bar gym looks interesting, but all that twisting and shit...  I'll pass...  LOL
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: slayerboy on March 04, 2009, 08:56:37 AM
I was obsessed with bodybuilding 5 or 6 years ago.  I loved it.  I got suckered in by the mags like FLEX and shit and became insanely obsessed with supplements.

Long story short I haven't worked out in about 3 years and am showing signs of working in a cube for 2 1/2 years.  Been looking at local gyms and not impressed.  I got the Wii Fit, which is amazing for cardio, but it's gotten old quick.  I need to lift again, I still have that desire.  I don't have the desire to be obsessed like I was originally with experimenting with supps.  I don't want to be insanely huge.  I just want to get down around 200lbs from 240 and have a smaller gut.

Cutting out the soda, having a harder time with fried foods.  Going to start eating more fiber and drinking more water.  Taking it slow for now.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 04, 2009, 09:15:58 AM
I was obsessed with bodybuilding 5 or 6 years ago.  I loved it.  I got suckered in by the mags like FLEX and shit and became insanely obsessed with supplements.

Long story short I haven't worked out in about 3 years and am showing signs of working in a cube for 2 1/2 years.  Been looking at local gyms and not impressed.  I got the Wii Fit, which is amazing for cardio, but it's gotten old quick.  I need to lift again, I still have that desire.  I don't have the desire to be obsessed like I was originally with experimenting with supps.  I don't want to be insanely huge.  I just want to get down around 200lbs from 240 and have a smaller gut.

Cutting out the soda, having a harder time with fried foods.  Going to start eating more fiber and drinking more water.  Taking it slow for now.

Back IN the 90's I was in the same boat.  Unless your a pro or competitive athlete, most supplements are a waste of money.  With the exception of meal replacement shakes, that is.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: slayerboy on March 04, 2009, 09:23:22 AM
I think supplements like vitamins/fiber/glucosamine are ok.  I think supplements in general are ok if you are missing something in your diet, and meal replacements are ok too.  I used to be big on protein shakes and creatine, I think that was a waste of money really.  Fish oil maybe.

My biggest problem is that pretty much anything you eat today is unhealthy unless you grow it or kill it yourself.  I think it's not so much what you eat as it is how much you eat of it.  Making smart decisions on calories is the best way to lose weight IMHO.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Diogenes The Cynic on March 04, 2009, 08:57:07 PM
A pound of fat is about 3600 calories.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on March 04, 2009, 08:58:20 PM
A pound of fat is about 3600 calories.

3,500.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Diogenes The Cynic on March 04, 2009, 08:59:59 PM
A pound of fat is about 3600 calories.

3,500.

I stand corrected.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: slayerboy on March 05, 2009, 08:22:05 AM
Actually....I know everyone says that 3500 = 1 lb of body fat, but when you lose weight it's not all bodyfat.  You can't control whether you lose bodyfat or muscle weight.  Obviously lifting weights will help to build muscle.  The same is true for gaining weight.  It's not all body fat if you're lifting weights.  Obviously, if you're doing no exercise at all it is fat. 

Also, muscle is far more denser than fat.  Which can explain why the BMI index is utter bullshit.  It's much better to measure body fat % than BMI.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Lindsey on March 05, 2009, 08:57:00 AM
Actually....I know everyone says that 3500 = 1 lb of body fat, but when you lose weight it's not all bodyfat.  You can't control whether you lose bodyfat or muscle weight.  Obviously lifting weights will help to build muscle.  The same is true for gaining weight.  It's not all body fat if you're lifting weights.  Obviously, if you're doing no exercise at all it is fat. 

Also, muscle is far more denser than fat.  Which can explain why the BMI index is utter bullshit.  It's much better to measure body fat % than BMI.

More...denser?   :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on March 05, 2009, 09:42:02 AM
Actually....I know everyone says that 3500 = 1 lb of body fat, but when you lose weight it's not all bodyfat.  You can't control whether you lose bodyfat or muscle weight.  Obviously lifting weights will help to build muscle.  The same is true for gaining weight.  It's not all body fat if you're lifting weights.  Obviously, if you're doing no exercise at all it is fat. 

Also, muscle is far more denser than fat.  Which can explain why the BMI index is utter bullshit.  It's much better to measure body fat % than BMI.

True.
3500 calories = 1 pound, whether it's a pound of fat or a pound of muscle.
But to the average person losing weight, extra pounds = fat. They aren't looking beyond the scale and waist size.
Some people want to know all the specifics, but most don't. They just want to wear a smaller size of jeans and feel a bit better.

More...denser?   :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
That struck me as more funnier, too.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Lindsey on March 05, 2009, 09:52:06 AM
Joy, do you take vitamins?  And if so, what kind?  I'm not entirely sure why this hit me just now.  But I remember you mentioning that you're pretty much eliminating your meat consumption for now.  I know you eat other veggie sources of protein and try to keep things as balanced as possible - but you seem to have a pretty good grip on getting good, natural things to eat without being all hippie vegan.  I noticed (and some other people have too) that I haven't been eating a lot of meat lately.  I still eat it, of course, but it's mostly chicken or turkey for what ever reason.  And I'm trying my best to eat a little healthier and try and still get a balance of nutrition and vitamins.  I have a hard time remembering to take vitamins, because I have to remember to take four other prescription pills during the course of the day. 
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on March 05, 2009, 10:16:26 AM
Joy, do you take vitamins?  And if so, what kind?  I'm not entirely sure why this hit me just now.  But I remember you mentioning that you're pretty much eliminating your meat consumption for now.  I know you eat other veggie sources of protein and try to keep things as balanced as possible - but you seem to have a pretty good grip on getting good, natural things to eat without being all hippie vegan.  I noticed (and some other people have too) that I haven't been eating a lot of meat lately.  I still eat it, of course, but it's mostly chicken or turkey for what ever reason.  And I'm trying my best to eat a little healthier and try and still get a balance of nutrition and vitamins.  I have a hard time remembering to take vitamins, because I have to remember to take four other prescription pills during the course of the day. 

I take a multivitamin every other day. It's just the Whole Foods Adult Multi. (The iron in it - everyday is too tough on my system.)
I do take Vitamin C every day I exercise, and a B complex. I take it with my post work out snack & a glass of water.
If I'm drinking something like an odwalla blueberry monster, then I don't bother with the supplement.
I used to take a bunch of stuff, but have cut most of it out, without noticing any decline in my general health.

For food based good stuff:
Lots of avocado and olive oil, with a variety of veggies and fruit. I really like what some nutrition people are doing now with fruit & veg recommendations. Instead of preaching specifics all the time, they're saying your plate should always be colorful. If you have a rainbow on your dinner plate, you're getting a good balance of most vitamins.
Black beans help with iron, as does using molasses in my regular cooking. I sprinkle ground flax on my morning yogurt, and toss a scoop of it into most bread & muffin recipes.

I think the biggest thing is that I don't tell myself "no" anymore. I may say "later" when it comes to sweets and junkfood, but not "no". If it's a stressful day, and I'm craving ice cream, I'm going to have ice cream. It'll just be later, after dinner, when I sit down with a cup of tea or coffee and a book. If I savor it, and make it a big deal, one scoop with some sliced strawberries and sprinkle of dark chocolate is more satisfying than scarfing down a frosty on the way to pick up the kids. Same thing goes for cheeseburgers or pizza. One medium rare burger, with a thick slice of cheese and tomato on a buttered bun, is worth waiting for. Especially when the quick fix is McDonalds or Burger King. (Not that I don't grab the occasional Whopper Jr. w/cheese after a long ride on a hot summer day.)
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: slayerboy on March 05, 2009, 11:17:42 AM

More...denser?   :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

ROFL...see how much you get dependent on spellcheck and you become.....more.......denser :P
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 06, 2009, 08:45:16 AM
Joy, do you take vitamins?  And if so, what kind?  I'm not entirely sure why this hit me just now.  But I remember you mentioning that you're pretty much eliminating your meat consumption for now.  I know you eat other veggie sources of protein and try to keep things as balanced as possible - but you seem to have a pretty good grip on getting good, natural things to eat without being all hippie vegan.  I noticed (and some other people have too) that I haven't been eating a lot of meat lately.  I still eat it, of course, but it's mostly chicken or turkey for what ever reason.  And I'm trying my best to eat a little healthier and try and still get a balance of nutrition and vitamins.  I have a hard time remembering to take vitamins, because I have to remember to take four other prescription pills during the course of the day. 

I take a multivitamin every other day. It's just the Whole Foods Adult Multi. (The iron in it - everyday is too tough on my system.)
I do take Vitamin C every day I exercise, and a B complex. I take it with my post work out snack & a glass of water.
If I'm drinking something like an odwalla blueberry monster, then I don't bother with the supplement.
I used to take a bunch of stuff, but have cut most of it out, without noticing any decline in my general health.

For food based good stuff:
Lots of avocado and olive oil, with a variety of veggies and fruit. I really like what some nutrition people are doing now with fruit & veg recommendations. Instead of preaching specifics all the time, they're saying your plate should always be colorful. If you have a rainbow on your dinner plate, you're getting a good balance of most vitamins.
Black beans help with iron, as does using molasses in my regular cooking. I sprinkle ground flax on my morning yogurt, and toss a scoop of it into most bread & muffin recipes.

I think the biggest thing is that I don't tell myself "no" anymore. I may say "later" when it comes to sweets and junkfood, but not "no". If it's a stressful day, and I'm craving ice cream, I'm going to have ice cream. It'll just be later, after dinner, when I sit down with a cup of tea or coffee and a book. If I savor it, and make it a big deal, one scoop with some sliced strawberries and sprinkle of dark chocolate is more satisfying than scarfing down a frosty on the way to pick up the kids. Same thing goes for cheeseburgers or pizza. One medium rare burger, with a thick slice of cheese and tomato on a buttered bun, is worth waiting for. Especially when the quick fix is McDonalds or Burger King. (Not that I don't grab the occasional Whopper Jr. w/cheese after a long ride on a hot summer day.)

Avocado...  yummm!  I get fresh ones down here all year round.  All differnt varieties.  I buy them from a neighbor...  Much better than store bought.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on March 06, 2009, 09:59:51 AM
Avocado...  yummm!  I get fresh ones down here all year round.  All differnt varieties.  I buy them from a neighbor...  Much better than store bought.

Damn you and your fresh avocados! I'm insanely jealous at the moment, seeing as how I've had to put off my mango/avocado salad lunch for another day.
The ripest avocado at the store yesterday is a day or two away from being ripe. (It was either buy & wait, or take a chance on the ones marked "ripe" - which is generally a bad idea.)

I'm going to take my pissy attitude for a ride down to Whole Foods. I'll scoop up all the goodies for a batch of granola, and pick up my race packet for tomorrow's 10k on the way.
Yes, I'll be riding my bike to the whole foods to fill my reusable grocery bag with organic ingredients for homemade granola.
This will be before my volunteer time in a public (charter) school.

OMG. I'm becoming the "nature" mom I remember my mother making fun of from her little group when I was a kid. (Except for the bell bottoms and patchwork dresses.)
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Dylboz on March 06, 2009, 10:56:41 AM
This is a cool thread, and the timing is good for me. I've just started augmenting my weekly martial arts training with fitness training. My goals include being able to do certain things that I can't right now, like pull ups and chin ups, running a mile without stopping, etc. But, mostly, I want to get off blood pressure meds completely. I've been on them since the age of 14 (congenital heart defects). I've had 3 heart surgeries and now that I'm all sorted out, I can do all kinds of athletic stuff that I couldn't before. I have a friend who was a Marine, he wants to get back in shape, and he's sort of my personal trainer/DI. He's coming over 3 times a week to work out, and I just do what he tells me to do. He's coming to my martial arts class too, so we can train with each other on the techniques we learn. It's a good time, but totally new for me.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 09, 2009, 11:59:14 PM
This is a cool thread, and the timing is good for me. I've just started augmenting my weekly martial arts training with fitness training. My goals include being able to do certain things that I can't right now, like pull ups and chin ups, running a mile without stopping, etc. But, mostly, I want to get off blood pressure meds completely. I've been on them since the age of 14 (congenital heart defects). I've had 3 heart surgeries and now that I'm all sorted out, I can do all kinds of athletic stuff that I couldn't before. I have a friend who was a Marine, he wants to get back in shape, and he's sort of my personal trainer/DI. He's coming over 3 times a week to work out, and I just do what he tells me to do. He's coming to my martial arts class too, so we can train with each other on the techniques we learn. It's a good time, but totally new for me.

Well I'm happy that you are enjoying the thread.  You might want to loook into the nike+ system if you have an iPod, or an actual heart rate monitor.  I find that it really keeps me going.  Once I see that my heart is below my target heart rate, I know I'm slacking (Unless I have to stop for a traffic light or something), if I'm in the target heart rate, I'm burning stored fat, and over the target heart rate, I'm improving my cardio...  It could also help you for when you see your cardiologist.  Talk to him about it.

The nike+ system has a program that can help you go from walking to running in as little as 4 weeks, to as much as 16 weeks, so you could look into that.

Just some ideas.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 10, 2009, 12:06:22 AM
Actually....I know everyone says that 3500 = 1 lb of body fat, but when you lose weight it's not all bodyfat.  You can't control whether you lose bodyfat or muscle weight.  Obviously lifting weights will help to build muscle.  The same is true for gaining weight.  It's not all body fat if you're lifting weights.  Obviously, if you're doing no exercise at all it is fat. 

Also, muscle is far more denser than fat.  Which can explain why the BMI index is utter bullshit.  It's much better to measure body fat % than BMI.

Actually, That's not 100%.  I've spent a lot of time studying about heart rate monitors and their accuracy.  Also, my brother has a physical education degree and is a PE teacher and football coach.  I've confirmed everything he tells me.

If you want to burn stored fat, then you should keep exercising in your target heart rate zone.  being 38 plus my weight, my target heart rate is between 127 and 141 beats per minute.  Once I adjusted my weight to my current weight (almost 20 pounds less than when I started), I've noticed that it is starting to get a little bit harder to hit the target heart rate when walking, so it's starting to work.  On bike, it is hard for me to stay in the heart rate zone... I can't go slow enough unless I'm doing a critical Mass ride in a group of people.  so most of the calories lost on the solo rides are not really fat burners, they are cardio and lung capacity workouts.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 10, 2009, 12:15:55 AM
I'm waiting on my Worksman Urban Cruiser bicycle to be delivered that I ordered two weeks ago. Then imma get out and ride around till my fat self can't stand it no more.

I'm jealous. I've priced a worksman with the set up I want, but haven't quite gotten to the point where I'm ready to shell out the cash.

Well, I don't really have a choice. A normal bike just won't support my 400lb ass.

It was on sale, $100 off. Total price delivered was just under $600.

http://worksmancycles.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page54.html

so did you get that cool bike of yours yet?
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: BonerJoe on March 10, 2009, 12:18:25 AM
I'm waiting on my Worksman Urban Cruiser bicycle to be delivered that I ordered two weeks ago. Then imma get out and ride around till my fat self can't stand it no more.

I'm jealous. I've priced a worksman with the set up I want, but haven't quite gotten to the point where I'm ready to shell out the cash.

Well, I don't really have a choice. A normal bike just won't support my 400lb ass.

It was on sale, $100 off. Total price delivered was just under $600.

http://worksmancycles.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page54.html

so did you get that cool bike of yours yet?

No, probably will be here before the end of the month though.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Lindsey on March 10, 2009, 08:23:26 AM
Actually....I know everyone says that 3500 = 1 lb of body fat, but when you lose weight it's not all bodyfat.  You can't control whether you lose bodyfat or muscle weight.  Obviously lifting weights will help to build muscle.  The same is true for gaining weight.  It's not all body fat if you're lifting weights.  Obviously, if you're doing no exercise at all it is fat. 

Also, muscle is far more denser than fat.  Which can explain why the BMI index is utter bullshit.  It's much better to measure body fat % than BMI.

Actually, That's not 100%.  I've spent a lot of time studying about heart rate monitors and their accuracy.  Also, my brother has a physical education degree and is a PE teacher and football coach.  I've confirmed everything he tells me.

If you want to burn stored fat, then you should keep exercising in your target heart rate zone.  being 38 plus my weight, my target heart rate is between 127 and 141 beats per minute.  Once I adjusted my weight to my current weight (almost 20 pounds less than when I started), I've noticed that it is starting to get a little bit harder to hit the target heart rate when walking, so it's starting to work.  On bike, it is hard for me to stay in the heart rate zone... I can't go slow enough unless I'm doing a critical Mass ride in a group of people.  so most of the calories lost on the solo rides are not really fat burners, they are cardio and lung capacity workouts.

How do you figure your target heart rate? 
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on March 10, 2009, 09:29:18 AM
How do you figure your target heart rate? 

Simple way - Mayo Calculator (Age Based)
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/target-heart-rate/SM00083 (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/target-heart-rate/SM00083)

Still simple, but more accurate (Age & Resting Heart Rate) -
http://www.healthchecksystems.com/heart.asp (http://www.healthchecksystems.com/heart.asp)

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As you become more fit, your target rate will increase.

For example, according to the Mayo Calculator, my target range is 127-155
According to the health check systems, with the addition of my resting heart rate, the number becomes 130-158.

About 6 months ago, I spent a couple weeks keeping up with my daily resting HR, along with the average and maximum rate during my workouts. After each workout, I had to rate my perceived effort during, and how wiped (not the technical term, or course) I felt at the end of the run/ride. Using that, my target range was raised to 140-168, which is the target range for someone 15 years younger than me. (I think that's pretty cool.)
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 10, 2009, 10:31:21 AM
How do you figure your target heart rate? 

Simple way - Mayo Calculator (Age Based)
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/target-heart-rate/SM00083 (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/target-heart-rate/SM00083)

Still simple, but more accurate (Age & Resting Heart Rate) -
http://www.healthchecksystems.com/heart.asp (http://www.healthchecksystems.com/heart.asp)

-----
As you become more fit, your target rate will increase.

For example, according to the Mayo Calculator, my target range is 127-155
According to the health check systems, with the addition of my resting heart rate, the number becomes 130-158.

About 6 months ago, I spent a couple weeks keeping up with my daily resting HR, along with the average and maximum rate during my workouts. After each workout, I had to rate my perceived effort during, and how wiped (not the technical term, or course) I felt at the end of the run/ride. Using that, my target range was raised to 140-168, which is the target range for someone 15 years younger than me. (I think that's pretty cool.)
This.

Thanks Joy.  I was not aware of these sites.  Even more info for me to look at.  The more, the merrier.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 10, 2009, 11:35:49 AM
I'm waiting on my Worksman Urban Cruiser bicycle to be delivered that I ordered two weeks ago. Then imma get out and ride around till my fat self can't stand it no more.

I'm jealous. I've priced a worksman with the set up I want, but haven't quite gotten to the point where I'm ready to shell out the cash.

Well, I don't really have a choice. A normal bike just won't support my 400lb ass.

It was on sale, $100 off. Total price delivered was just under $600.

http://worksmancycles.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page54.html

so did you get that cool bike of yours yet?

No, probably will be here before the end of the month though.

Start walking now.  Get yourself a good pair of shoes and walk.  Believe me, it will make it a lot easier when you start riding that bike.  And when you get it, don't ride it a few times and let it sit around, either!  LOL
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Icculi on March 10, 2009, 12:54:15 PM
I've been on a health kick since September.  I love to walk through the parks around my house, but when winter/bad weather hits I can't do that.  This winter I decided to get a workout machine, and after reading reviews and info I went for an elliptical.  It's awesome.  Easy on my knees and joints, and I can crank up the resistance to do more exercise in less/same amount of time.  I highly recommend it to anyone looking to get into shape.  My dad has always been into running and biking for as long as I can remember.  He owns two treadmills and bikes during the summer.  But, after I got mine he decided to try it and he loved it so much he went out and got the same one for himself.  His knees are getting bad, and it really reduced the impact.

Schwinn 430 Elliptical Trainer:

http://www.amazon.com/Schwinn-430-Elliptical-Trainer/dp/B000JF20LI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=generic&qid=1236703886&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Schwinn-430-Elliptical-Trainer/dp/B000JF20LI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=generic&qid=1236703886&sr=1-1)
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: BonerJoe on March 10, 2009, 01:42:23 PM
I'm waiting on my Worksman Urban Cruiser bicycle to be delivered that I ordered two weeks ago. Then imma get out and ride around till my fat self can't stand it no more.

I'm jealous. I've priced a worksman with the set up I want, but haven't quite gotten to the point where I'm ready to shell out the cash.

Well, I don't really have a choice. A normal bike just won't support my 400lb ass.

It was on sale, $100 off. Total price delivered was just under $600.

http://worksmancycles.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page54.html

so did you get that cool bike of yours yet?

No, probably will be here before the end of the month though.

Start walking now.  Get yourself a good pair of shoes and walk.  Believe me, it will make it a lot easier when you start riding that bike.  And when you get it, don't ride it a few times and let it sit around, either!  LOL

I have a $110 pair of walking shoes that I wear all the time. And I already go to the gym 3 times a week to use the stationary bike and rowing machine.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 10, 2009, 02:20:42 PM
I'm waiting on my Worksman Urban Cruiser bicycle to be delivered that I ordered two weeks ago. Then imma get out and ride around till my fat self can't stand it no more.

I'm jealous. I've priced a worksman with the set up I want, but haven't quite gotten to the point where I'm ready to shell out the cash.

Well, I don't really have a choice. A normal bike just won't support my 400lb ass.

It was on sale, $100 off. Total price delivered was just under $600.

http://worksmancycles.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page54.html

so did you get that cool bike of yours yet?

No, probably will be here before the end of the month though.

Start walking now.  Get yourself a good pair of shoes and walk.  Believe me, it will make it a lot easier when you start riding that bike.  And when you get it, don't ride it a few times and let it sit around, either!  LOL

I have a $110 pair of walking shoes that I wear all the time. And I already go to the gym 3 times a week to use the stationary bike and rowing machine.

Sweet!  How often do you go out on walks for exercise?
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: blackie on March 10, 2009, 02:32:53 PM
I need some new shoes for running/walking. Converse All Stars aren't cutting it.

I think I'm gunna start doing Bartendaz (http://bartendaznyc.com/) physical training. That would be awsome.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 10, 2009, 02:44:04 PM
I've dropped 20 pounds in less than a month.  I'm excited.  Only 100-110 to go.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: anarchir on March 10, 2009, 02:48:17 PM
I've dropped 20 pounds in less than a month.  I'm excited.  Only 100-110 to go.

Wow nice. If I dropped that much I'd be dead. Literally, its impossible.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: BonerJoe on March 10, 2009, 03:09:13 PM
I'm waiting on my Worksman Urban Cruiser bicycle to be delivered that I ordered two weeks ago. Then imma get out and ride around till my fat self can't stand it no more.

I'm jealous. I've priced a worksman with the set up I want, but haven't quite gotten to the point where I'm ready to shell out the cash.

Well, I don't really have a choice. A normal bike just won't support my 400lb ass.

It was on sale, $100 off. Total price delivered was just under $600.

http://worksmancycles.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page54.html

so did you get that cool bike of yours yet?

No, probably will be here before the end of the month though.

Start walking now.  Get yourself a good pair of shoes and walk.  Believe me, it will make it a lot easier when you start riding that bike.  And when you get it, don't ride it a few times and let it sit around, either!  LOL

I have a $110 pair of walking shoes that I wear all the time. And I already go to the gym 3 times a week to use the stationary bike and rowing machine.

Sweet!  How often do you go out on walks for exercise?

LOL, never.

Does putting a target up at the 100 yard range a few times every week count? Heh.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: BonerJoe on March 10, 2009, 03:11:51 PM
I need some new shoes for running/walking. Converse All Stars aren't cutting it.

New Balance 926's:

http://www.endless.com/New-Balance-Mens-MW926-Walking/dp/B000VVEYWS/

Best. Shoes. Evar. Not vegan compliant, though.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: blackie on March 10, 2009, 03:18:10 PM
I prolly will go with non-leather New Balance.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on March 10, 2009, 04:20:45 PM
I need some new shoes for running/walking. Converse All Stars aren't cutting it.

I think I'm gunna start doing Bartendaz (http://bartendaznyc.com/) physical training. That would be awsome.

Runners World just put out their spring shoe guide. I haven't read it, but it might be helpful.

I just purchased my 3rd pair of official running shoes today. My last two pairs were Asics 2130, and I LOVED them.
Narrow heel, good support where I needed it, bit of stabilizing shoe so I didn't feel wobbly.
The updated version is the 2140. It has a similar feel on the foot, until I start moving. The area under the middle of the foot is stiffer, which I don't care for, though I'd consider the Trail shoe version. I'd like the more solid footing on rocks & roots.

I ended up getting the Nike Zoom. Have to lace them a bit different to make sure my heel doesn't slip, but other than that, it's like slipping my feet into a hug. I almost switched from riding to running, just 'cause I didn't want to take them off.

If you're looking for environmentally/ethically friendly shoes, there's on article on http://runnersworld.com (http://runnersworld.com) about green running, too. I think it was in an issue from last fall.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: anarchir on March 10, 2009, 04:23:31 PM
I need some new shoes for running/walking. Converse All Stars aren't cutting it.

New Balance 926's:

http://www.endless.com/New-Balance-Mens-MW926-Walking/dp/B000VVEYWS/

Best. Shoes. Evar. Not vegan compliant, though.

I'm not a fan of white/light colored shoes. They show the mud too much.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 10, 2009, 04:45:42 PM
I'm waiting on my Worksman Urban Cruiser bicycle to be delivered that I ordered two weeks ago. Then imma get out and ride around till my fat self can't stand it no more.

I'm jealous. I've priced a worksman with the set up I want, but haven't quite gotten to the point where I'm ready to shell out the cash.

Well, I don't really have a choice. A normal bike just won't support my 400lb ass.

It was on sale, $100 off. Total price delivered was just under $600.

http://worksmancycles.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/page54.html

so did you get that cool bike of yours yet?

No, probably will be here before the end of the month though.

Start walking now.  Get yourself a good pair of shoes and walk.  Believe me, it will make it a lot easier when you start riding that bike.  And when you get it, don't ride it a few times and let it sit around, either!  LOL

I have a $110 pair of walking shoes that I wear all the time. And I already go to the gym 3 times a week to use the stationary bike and rowing machine.

Sweet!  How often do you go out on walks for exercise?

LOL, never.

Does putting a target up at the 100 yard range a few times every week count? Heh.

Doesn't that defeat the purpose of the $110 walking shoes?
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Rillion on March 10, 2009, 04:48:29 PM
Doesn't that defeat the purpose of the $125 walking shoes?

1.  How do you quote somebody talking about the price of his shoes and then get the price wrong?

2.  If you wear a certain pair of shoes "all the time," then presumably you're doing quite a bit of walking in them. 
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 10, 2009, 04:51:25 PM
Doesn't that defeat the purpose of the $125 walking shoes?

1.  How do you quote somebody talking about the price of his shoes and then get the price wrong?

2.  If you wear a certain pair of shoes "all the time," then presumably you're doing quite a bit of walking in them. 

I fixed that, and the way I'm look at it, if you spend that much money for sneakers for exercise, I'm going to use them.  But then again, that's just me.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Rillion on March 10, 2009, 04:58:12 PM
Doesn't that defeat the purpose of the $125 walking shoes?

1.  How do you quote somebody talking about the price of his shoes and then get the price wrong?

2.  If you wear a certain pair of shoes "all the time," then presumably you're doing quite a bit of walking in them. 

I fixed that, and the way I'm look at it, if you spend that much money for sneakers for exercise, I'm going to use them.  But then again, that's just me.

You know that people walk for reasons other than exercise, right?  These shoes were made for walkin', and that's just what they'll do. 
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on March 10, 2009, 05:04:29 PM
Doesn't that defeat the purpose of the $125 walking shoes?

1.  How do you quote somebody talking about the price of his shoes and then get the price wrong?

2.  If you wear a certain pair of shoes "all the time," then presumably you're doing quite a bit of walking in them. 

I fixed that, and the way I'm look at it, if you spend that much money for sneakers for exercise, I'm going to use them.  But then again, that's just me.

You know that people walk for reasons other than exercise, right?  These shoes were made for walkin', and that's just what they'll do. 

It's okay, Rillion - miamiballoonguy is just in his zealot phase - a lot like someone who just quit smoking. (This, of course, is a good thing for him, because it means he's highly motivated.)

I'm with you - if having a pair of super comfy walking shoes makes everyday walking about more comfortable, it's definitely a good thing. I think people are more likely to do a little extra walking when their feet are happy. Not make those extra 3-5 loops around the parking lot, to get 20 feet closer. It's not government guidelines "exercise", but it's better than sitting on their butt.

Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 10, 2009, 10:49:36 PM
Doesn't that defeat the purpose of the $125 walking shoes?

1.  How do you quote somebody talking about the price of his shoes and then get the price wrong?

2.  If you wear a certain pair of shoes "all the time," then presumably you're doing quite a bit of walking in them. 

I fixed that, and the way I'm look at it, if you spend that much money for sneakers for exercise, I'm going to use them.  But then again, that's just me.

You know that people walk for reasons other than exercise, right?  These shoes were made for walkin', and that's just what they'll do. 

It's okay, Rillion - miamiballoonguy is just in his zealot phase - a lot like someone who just quit smoking. (This, of course, is a good thing for him, because it means he's highly motivated.)

I'm with you - if having a pair of super comfy walking shoes makes everyday walking about more comfortable, it's definitely a good thing. I think people are more likely to do a little extra walking when their feet are happy. Not make those extra 3-5 loops around the parking lot, to get 20 feet closer. It's not government guidelines "exercise", but it's better than sitting on their butt.



Not in my zealot phase.  8-)  I just wouldn't spend that kind of money on exercise shoes just to be comfy everyday.  That's what sandals are for.  But like I said, that's just me.  Only way I would spend that kind of money for shoes is for exercise and dress...    But then again, what the hell do I know?  I'm just a schmo typing on a computer.  8-)
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Lindsey on March 10, 2009, 11:12:12 PM
I gotta say...if I had the extra cash I'd spring for exercise shoes for my every day work pair.  I wear Skechers now - but they're not work or exercise shoes.  They're casual oxfords because I still have to stay dress casual, but on days where I stand on my feet for twelve hours I'm wishing I had some $150 pair of running shoes on.  Like today, I worked about 11 hours...my feet are screaming. 

Thank you to Joy for the heart rate info.  I'm really wanting to try and get some walking/jogging in.  I'm still way too fat to run, but even if I just put Muffin in the car and take him a few miles away to an area where there are nice, clean sidewalks and where there are people around.  Where I live isn't good...no neighbors or neighborhood so there's broken glass from squatters and delinquent teenagers partying and such.  Also, it's a good place to get murdered.   :lol:
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: BonerJoe on March 10, 2009, 11:29:56 PM
These shoes were made for walkin', and that's just what they'll do. 

Exactly.

And they wear well too. I've had these for a year now and they hardly look worn.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Diogenes The Cynic on March 10, 2009, 11:32:43 PM
These shoes were made for walkin', and that's just what they'll do. 

Exactly.

And they wear well too. I've had these for a year now and they hardly look worn.

Do you think that has any correlation to your status as a hermit?
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on March 10, 2009, 11:49:22 PM
I gotta say...if I had the extra cash I'd spring for exercise shoes for my every day work pair.  I wear Skechers now - but they're not work or exercise shoes.  They're casual oxfords because I still have to stay dress casual, but on days where I stand on my feet for twelve hours I'm wishing I had some $150 pair of running shoes on.  Like today, I worked about 11 hours...my feet are screaming. 

Thank you to Joy for the heart rate info.  I'm really wanting to try and get some walking/jogging in.  I'm still way too fat to run, but even if I just put Muffin in the car and take him a few miles away to an area where there are nice, clean sidewalks and where there are people around.  Where I live isn't good...no neighbors or neighborhood so there's broken glass from squatters and delinquent teenagers partying and such.  Also, it's a good place to get murdered.   :lol:

My running shoes today were about $90 - after the discount card I received in the goody bag from one of my last races. If you're willing to spend the time to try on lots of pairs, you might end up being able to get a clearance pair for quite a bit less. My last two pairs of shoes were exactly the same, purchased about 6 months apart. The first pair, when they'd just come out, were $105 (maybe $110). The second pair was under $70, just because they were no longer the latest/greatest thing.

As for starting to run, have fun with it. Take your dog for a walk, and just put in a minute or two of running at a time. Either time it, or determine you'll be "racing" the dog to the third mailbox, or something like that. (BTW, you're not too fat to run. You're just not in shape enough to run for very long... yet. Thinking like that got me through it; should work for you, too.)
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 10, 2009, 11:58:57 PM
I gotta say...if I had the extra cash I'd spring for exercise shoes for my every day work pair.  I wear Skechers now - but they're not work or exercise shoes.  They're casual oxfords because I still have to stay dress casual, but on days where I stand on my feet for twelve hours I'm wishing I had some $150 pair of running shoes on.  Like today, I worked about 11 hours...my feet are screaming. 

Thank you to Joy for the heart rate info.  I'm really wanting to try and get some walking/jogging in.  I'm still way too fat to run, but even if I just put Muffin in the car and take him a few miles away to an area where there are nice, clean sidewalks and where there are people around.  Where I live isn't good...no neighbors or neighborhood so there's broken glass from squatters and delinquent teenagers partying and such.  Also, it's a good place to get murdered.   :lol:

Sketchers makes some really comfortable shoes.  Those are what I use when I'm entertaining and fixing computers.  I can go 12 hours and not feel a thing.  They are not the loafer kind, though.  They are the sneaker kind.  They make this all black one that looks like a cross between a sneaker and a dress shoe.  Very comfortable.  Not sure if they are made in women's style but if you get to a sketcher's store, you should check them out in the men's section then see if they have an equivalent woman's model.  You'll never get another workshoe as long as you live.  Best of all at the Sketchers outlet, you can get them for about $40 to $50 per pair.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 11, 2009, 12:01:02 AM
I need some new shoes for running/walking. Converse All Stars aren't cutting it.

New Balance 926's:

http://www.endless.com/New-Balance-Mens-MW926-Walking/dp/B000VVEYWS/

Best. Shoes. Evar. Not vegan compliant, though.

The brown one is a nice looking sneaker...  kind of reminds me of those Joe Montana Street hikers of the late 80's/Early 90's.  I may just have to try the shoe out when my current nike+ shoes wear out.

(http://www.ioffer.com/img/1156230000/_i/13838812/1.jpg)
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Lindsey on March 11, 2009, 08:32:58 AM
I gotta say...if I had the extra cash I'd spring for exercise shoes for my every day work pair.  I wear Skechers now - but they're not work or exercise shoes.  They're casual oxfords because I still have to stay dress casual, but on days where I stand on my feet for twelve hours I'm wishing I had some $150 pair of running shoes on.  Like today, I worked about 11 hours...my feet are screaming. 

Thank you to Joy for the heart rate info.  I'm really wanting to try and get some walking/jogging in.  I'm still way too fat to run, but even if I just put Muffin in the car and take him a few miles away to an area where there are nice, clean sidewalks and where there are people around.  Where I live isn't good...no neighbors or neighborhood so there's broken glass from squatters and delinquent teenagers partying and such.  Also, it's a good place to get murdered.   :lol:

Sketchers makes some really comfortable shoes.  Those are what I use when I'm entertaining and fixing computers.  I can go 12 hours and not feel a thing.  They are not the loafer kind, though.  They are the sneaker kind.  They make this all black one that looks like a cross between a sneaker and a dress shoe.  Very comfortable.  Not sure if they are made in women's style but if you get to a sketcher's store, you should check them out in the men's section then see if they have an equivalent woman's model.  You'll never get another workshoe as long as you live.  Best of all at the Sketchers outlet, you can get them for about $40 to $50 per pair.

I usually get them from the website.  I have a pair of slip-on sneakers that I wear when I'm not working most of the time because they're easy, and I've worn them to work (Ankle injury - foot was too swollen to get in regular shoes) and I think my feet STILL hurt at the end of the day.  That's another reason I want to weigh less, because I think if I'm thinner it won't be as hard on my body to stand like that and do the things I do at work, and be able to do other things like hiking and running and biking. 
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 11, 2009, 11:00:03 AM
I gotta say...if I had the extra cash I'd spring for exercise shoes for my every day work pair.  I wear Skechers now - but they're not work or exercise shoes.  They're casual oxfords because I still have to stay dress casual, but on days where I stand on my feet for twelve hours I'm wishing I had some $150 pair of running shoes on.  Like today, I worked about 11 hours...my feet are screaming. 

Thank you to Joy for the heart rate info.  I'm really wanting to try and get some walking/jogging in.  I'm still way too fat to run, but even if I just put Muffin in the car and take him a few miles away to an area where there are nice, clean sidewalks and where there are people around.  Where I live isn't good...no neighbors or neighborhood so there's broken glass from squatters and delinquent teenagers partying and such.  Also, it's a good place to get murdered.   :lol:

Sketchers makes some really comfortable shoes.  Those are what I use when I'm entertaining and fixing computers.  I can go 12 hours and not feel a thing.  They are not the loafer kind, though.  They are the sneaker kind.  They make this all black one that looks like a cross between a sneaker and a dress shoe.  Very comfortable.  Not sure if they are made in women's style but if you get to a sketcher's store, you should check them out in the men's section then see if they have an equivalent woman's model.  You'll never get another workshoe as long as you live.  Best of all at the Sketchers outlet, you can get them for about $40 to $50 per pair.

I usually get them from the website.  I have a pair of slip-on sneakers that I wear when I'm not working most of the time because they're easy, and I've worn them to work (Ankle injury - foot was too swollen to get in regular shoes) and I think my feet STILL hurt at the end of the day.  That's another reason I want to weigh less, because I think if I'm thinner it won't be as hard on my body to stand like that and do the things I do at work, and be able to do other things like hiking and running and biking. 

I know about weight and the agony of the feet.  When I started wearing sketchers about seven years ago, my heel problems were severely lessened from the shoes.  After looking at the website, they actually have a female version of the shoes that I was talking about.  Just select the female gender, and all those shoes on the first page, the sneakers are the ones called women's Magnify, Women's D'lites - Delectable, and anything that looks similar.  Just look at the thickness of that heel.  It'll also give you 2 inches in height as well...  I use the men's version almost exclusively.  You won't regret it.  It's all about the padding in the heels.  If your lucky enough to live near a sketcher's outlet like I do, sometimes you can even get them at 3 pair for $100.00 or less sort of like a 3 for 2 deal. And they come in soooo many different colors, too. As far as exercising in concerned, just do it woman!  Don't make me drive 5 hours to tampa to get you to exercise!  (ok, maybe I am in a little bit of a zealot phase, but whatever) 8)  Seriously, though, Set aside a couple of hours a day, 3 to 4 days a week, watch what you eat, and in a couple of months you will be where you want to be.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: BonerJoe on March 11, 2009, 02:57:28 PM
Mah bike came today:

(http://petmeats.com/bike.jpg)

After riding it around the block, I realized I need a lot of work...heh.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on March 11, 2009, 03:11:28 PM
Mah bike came today:


After riding it around the block, I realized I need a lot of work...heh.

Yea! on the arrival of the bike.

You may need work on the bike but - admit it - the ride around the block was fun, wasn't it?
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: BonerJoe on March 11, 2009, 03:12:59 PM
but - admit it - the ride around the block was fun, wasn't it?

Yep, instant flashback to 8 years ago, heh.

Though, I keep looking for a side mirror and a turn signal like it's there.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 11, 2009, 09:17:47 PM
Mah bike came today:

(http://petmeats.com/bike.jpg)

After riding it around the block, I realized I need a lot of work...heh.

Alright boner joe!  How does it ride?  How many speeds does it have?
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Dylboz on March 11, 2009, 09:21:08 PM
Looks like a fixie to me. Or maybe it has one of those fancy inside the hub auto trans systems. Either way, it's a pretty cool bike. I always  liked the real urban style bikes with baskets and fenders. Like I rode around in Japan. In America, they all have to look like you're Lance Armstrong or you just came down off the mountain trail. People get the wrong tool for the job with bikes most of the time, because they're more concerned with image than function.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: CaL DaVe on March 11, 2009, 09:35:42 PM
Looks like a fixie to me. Or maybe it has one of those fancy inside the hub auto trans systems. Either way, it's a pretty cool bike. I always  liked the real urban style bikes with baskets and fenders. Like I rode around in Japan. In America, they all have to look like you're Lance Armstrong or you just came down off the mountain trail. People get the wrong tool for the job with bikes most of the time, because they're more concerned with image than function.

I have a mountain bike. I rode it once in the mountains, and a Bazilliion times on the beach rec trail (No hills Wat so ever). But the suspension system looks so cool.

BTW, I got it at WalMart.  8)
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 11, 2009, 10:07:19 PM
Looks like a fixie to me. Or maybe it has one of those fancy inside the hub auto trans systems. Either way, it's a pretty cool bike. I always  liked the real urban style bikes with baskets and fenders. Like I rode around in Japan. In America, they all have to look like you're Lance Armstrong or you just came down off the mountain trail. People get the wrong tool for the job with bikes most of the time, because they're more concerned with image than function.

It looks like it has a shifter on the handlebar.  Those fixies seem to be popular, but I am in no way ready for that yet.

You are right about the bikes in America.  Lucky for me, I don't go for all the hype.  Owning a recumbent definitely turns heads.  It's funny, on my last critical mass ride, my bike kept confusing some guy.  Everytime he turned his head to look back, he would freak out and think it was a moped or something.  By the end of the ride it had become the joke of the evening.  He almost fell the first time I got behind him.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Lindsey on March 11, 2009, 10:18:52 PM
I gotta say...if I had the extra cash I'd spring for exercise shoes for my every day work pair.  I wear Skechers now - but they're not work or exercise shoes.  They're casual oxfords because I still have to stay dress casual, but on days where I stand on my feet for twelve hours I'm wishing I had some $150 pair of running shoes on.  Like today, I worked about 11 hours...my feet are screaming. 

Thank you to Joy for the heart rate info.  I'm really wanting to try and get some walking/jogging in.  I'm still way too fat to run, but even if I just put Muffin in the car and take him a few miles away to an area where there are nice, clean sidewalks and where there are people around.  Where I live isn't good...no neighbors or neighborhood so there's broken glass from squatters and delinquent teenagers partying and such.  Also, it's a good place to get murdered.   :lol:

Sketchers makes some really comfortable shoes.  Those are what I use when I'm entertaining and fixing computers.  I can go 12 hours and not feel a thing.  They are not the loafer kind, though.  They are the sneaker kind.  They make this all black one that looks like a cross between a sneaker and a dress shoe.  Very comfortable.  Not sure if they are made in women's style but if you get to a sketcher's store, you should check them out in the men's section then see if they have an equivalent woman's model.  You'll never get another workshoe as long as you live.  Best of all at the Sketchers outlet, you can get them for about $40 to $50 per pair.

I usually get them from the website.  I have a pair of slip-on sneakers that I wear when I'm not working most of the time because they're easy, and I've worn them to work (Ankle injury - foot was too swollen to get in regular shoes) and I think my feet STILL hurt at the end of the day.  That's another reason I want to weigh less, because I think if I'm thinner it won't be as hard on my body to stand like that and do the things I do at work, and be able to do other things like hiking and running and biking. 

I know about weight and the agony of the feet.  When I started wearing sketchers about seven years ago, my heel problems were severely lessened from the shoes.  After looking at the website, they actually have a female version of the shoes that I was talking about.  Just select the female gender, and all those shoes on the first page, the sneakers are the ones called women's Magnify, Women's D'lites - Delectable, and anything that looks similar.  Just look at the thickness of that heel.  It'll also give you 2 inches in height as well...  I use the men's version almost exclusively.  You won't regret it.  It's all about the padding in the heels.  If your lucky enough to live near a sketcher's outlet like I do, sometimes you can even get them at 3 pair for $100.00 or less sort of like a 3 for 2 deal. And they come in soooo many different colors, too. As far as exercising in concerned, just do it woman!  Don't make me drive 5 hours to tampa to get you to exercise!  (ok, maybe I am in a little bit of a zealot phase, but whatever) 8)  Seriously, though, Set aside a couple of hours a day, 3 to 4 days a week, watch what you eat, and in a couple of months you will be where you want to be.


How do these look? 

http://www.skechers.com/shoes-and-clothing/women/styles/sneakers/product/d_lites-_extreme/bkw/

I checked out the "Delectable" ones, and the thing I didn't like is that they are slip-on sneakers - and being active, I know I'll lose a shoe and crack my head open falling down.  These look similar, but they have laces. 
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: freeAgent on March 11, 2009, 10:24:36 PM
miamiballoonguy: You might want to look into doing part of your trip along the C&O Canal trail.  You can take it from Washington, DC to Cumberland, MD.  It's not exactly straight, and it's obviously not going to be the easiest route (as there are dirt-only portions), but it's pretty scenic and there are camping areas along the way.  I biked it back when I was in Boy Scouts.  I think we did it in 5 or 6 days, and that wasn't a rough pace (184 miles).  We camped along the trail and went off into some of the towns we passed by to get food.

I need some new shoes for running/walking. Converse All Stars aren't cutting it.

I think I'm gunna start doing Bartendaz (http://bartendaznyc.com/) physical training. That would be awsome.

Runners World just put out their spring shoe guide. I haven't read it, but it might be helpful.

I just purchased my 3rd pair of official running shoes today. My last two pairs were Asics 2130, and I LOVED them.
Narrow heel, good support where I needed it, bit of stabilizing shoe so I didn't feel wobbly.
The updated version is the 2140. It has a similar feel on the foot, until I start moving. The area under the middle of the foot is stiffer, which I don't care for, though I'd consider the Trail shoe version. I'd like the more solid footing on rocks & roots.

I ended up getting the Nike Zoom. Have to lace them a bit different to make sure my heel doesn't slip, but other than that, it's like slipping my feet into a hug. I almost switched from riding to running, just 'cause I didn't want to take them off.

If you're looking for environmentally/ethically friendly shoes, there's on article on http://runnersworld.com (http://runnersworld.com) about green running, too. I think it was in an issue from last fall.

I had a really bad experience with Nike running shoes that severely messed up my feet for a few weeks (metatarsal stress fractures in both feet).  Their soles wear out quickly, so be careful.  Asics are good.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Diogenes The Cynic on March 11, 2009, 10:27:47 PM





How do these look? 

http://www.skechers.com/shoes-and-clothing/women/styles/sneakers/product/d_lites-_extreme/bkw/

I checked out the "Delectable" ones, and the thing I didn't like is that they are slip-on sneakers - and being active, I know I'll lose a shoe and crack my head open falling down.  These look similar, but they have laces. 




Would it be fair to say they look "sketchy"?
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: BonerJoe on March 11, 2009, 11:25:21 PM
How many speeds does it have?

Three.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on March 12, 2009, 12:06:36 AM
I had a really bad experience with Nike running shoes that severely messed up my feet for a few weeks (metatarsal stress fractures in both feet).  Their soles wear out quickly, so be careful.  Asics are good.

Thanks - I'd heard that about the soles, but do a mix of sand/gravel trail and asphalt through the spring and summer, so figured that would buy some time over concrete running. Before the metatarsal stress fractures, what pressure points did you notice with the Nikes?

As for the shoes, I'm not so sure about them. Laced 'em up for an easy run today, with mixed results.
Left foot - very happy.
Right foot - not so much.
By 2.5 miles, I'd noticed the beginning of pain - no, ache - midfoot. The area under my right toes felt lumpy, where my left foot fit perfectly into the form of the shoe. Stopped around 3 miles, and relaced the shoes, with the loops at the top to keep my heel from slipping. That helped, but my right foot is more tender than it should feel after 4.5 of path.

I'm going to pop the orthotic (arch support) out of my Asics, and see if that works on a short run tomorrow. If not, I'll be heading back to the running store to switch out for the Asics 2140s. The shop has a guarantee, and I need to get the right shoes broken in, soonest. I have a 10k this weekend, which I can run in my older Asics, but the next half marathon is only two weeks away.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Dylboz on March 12, 2009, 12:17:33 AM
It's not the brand, it's the shoe. Each brand makes different models, and if you're not going to a store that knows what they're selling you and can fit you properly (not Foot Locker), then you need to do a lot of research before buying running shoes. I'm not a big runner, but a lot of folks I work with run marathons and stuff. This is what they say.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on March 12, 2009, 12:27:25 AM
It's not the brand, it's the shoe. Each brand makes different models, and if you're not going to a store that knows what they're selling you and can fit you properly (not Foot Locker), then you need to do a lot of research before buying running shoes. I'm not a big runner, but a lot of folks I work with run marathons and stuff. This is what they say.

True. The local running store I do my shopping at is wonderful at fitting. I've tried on many, many shoes, and run a lot of parking lot laps. I make it difficult by having completely mismatched feet. The brand doesn't matter as much to me as having a good fit for my narrow heels, and enough room for my toes to spread out. The Asics are pretty consistent on that, which is why they were my first choice.

Another great reason for the local running store? The exchange policy.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 12, 2009, 01:54:57 AM
I gotta say...if I had the extra cash I'd spring for exercise shoes for my every day work pair.  I wear Skechers now - but they're not work or exercise shoes.  They're casual oxfords because I still have to stay dress casual, but on days where I stand on my feet for twelve hours I'm wishing I had some $150 pair of running shoes on.  Like today, I worked about 11 hours...my feet are screaming. 

Thank you to Joy for the heart rate info.  I'm really wanting to try and get some walking/jogging in.  I'm still way too fat to run, but even if I just put Muffin in the car and take him a few miles away to an area where there are nice, clean sidewalks and where there are people around.  Where I live isn't good...no neighbors or neighborhood so there's broken glass from squatters and delinquent teenagers partying and such.  Also, it's a good place to get murdered.   :lol:

Sketchers makes some really comfortable shoes.  Those are what I use when I'm entertaining and fixing computers.  I can go 12 hours and not feel a thing.  They are not the loafer kind, though.  They are the sneaker kind.  They make this all black one that looks like a cross between a sneaker and a dress shoe.  Very comfortable.  Not sure if they are made in women's style but if you get to a sketcher's store, you should check them out in the men's section then see if they have an equivalent woman's model.  You'll never get another workshoe as long as you live.  Best of all at the Sketchers outlet, you can get them for about $40 to $50 per pair.

I usually get them from the website.  I have a pair of slip-on sneakers that I wear when I'm not working most of the time because they're easy, and I've worn them to work (Ankle injury - foot was too swollen to get in regular shoes) and I think my feet STILL hurt at the end of the day.  That's another reason I want to weigh less, because I think if I'm thinner it won't be as hard on my body to stand like that and do the things I do at work, and be able to do other things like hiking and running and biking. 

I know about weight and the agony of the feet.  When I started wearing sketchers about seven years ago, my heel problems were severely lessened from the shoes.  After looking at the website, they actually have a female version of the shoes that I was talking about.  Just select the female gender, and all those shoes on the first page, the sneakers are the ones called women's Magnify, Women's D'lites - Delectable, and anything that looks similar.  Just look at the thickness of that heel.  It'll also give you 2 inches in height as well...  I use the men's version almost exclusively.  You won't regret it.  It's all about the padding in the heels.  If your lucky enough to live near a sketcher's outlet like I do, sometimes you can even get them at 3 pair for $100.00 or less sort of like a 3 for 2 deal. And they come in soooo many different colors, too. As far as exercising in concerned, just do it woman!  Don't make me drive 5 hours to tampa to get you to exercise!  (ok, maybe I am in a little bit of a zealot phase, but whatever) 8)  Seriously, though, Set aside a couple of hours a day, 3 to 4 days a week, watch what you eat, and in a couple of months you will be where you want to be.


How do these look? 

http://www.skechers.com/shoes-and-clothing/women/styles/sneakers/product/d_lites-_extreme/bkw/

I checked out the "Delectable" ones, and the thing I didn't like is that they are slip-on sneakers - and being active, I know I'll lose a shoe and crack my head open falling down.  These look similar, but they have laces. 

Those look about right.  Give them a shot.  Once you break them in, I don't think that you will regret it. this is the type of 'comfy' everyday shoe. 
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 12, 2009, 02:04:43 AM
miamiballoonguy: You might want to look into doing part of your trip along the C&O Canal trail.  You can take it from Washington, DC to Cumberland, MD.  It's not exactly straight, and it's obviously not going to be the easiest route (as there are dirt-only portions), but it's pretty scenic and there are camping areas along the way.  I biked it back when I was in Boy Scouts.  I think we did it in 5 or 6 days, and that wasn't a rough pace (184 miles).  We camped along the trail and went off into some of the towns we passed by to get food.

It looks like a nice trail, but I have to check with the adventure cycling maps to see if part of the C&O trail overlaps the trail that I will be using. But I'm not thinking about it yet...   First I've got to get into shape.  One thing at a time.

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I had a really bad experience with Nike running shoes that severely messed up my feet for a few weeks (metatarsal stress fractures in both feet).  Their soles wear out quickly, so be careful.  Asics are good.

Well the pair that I have are OK.  It's my first pair.  I'll be checking out other shoes, and especially the asics.  It seems everyone likes them.  I've got the give them a try.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: freeAgent on March 12, 2009, 08:14:54 AM
I had a really bad experience with Nike running shoes that severely messed up my feet for a few weeks (metatarsal stress fractures in both feet).  Their soles wear out quickly, so be careful.  Asics are good.

Thanks - I'd heard that about the soles, but do a mix of sand/gravel trail and asphalt through the spring and summer, so figured that would buy some time over concrete running. Before the metatarsal stress fractures, what pressure points did you notice with the Nikes?

As for the shoes, I'm not so sure about them. Laced 'em up for an easy run today, with mixed results.
Left foot - very happy.
Right foot - not so much.
By 2.5 miles, I'd noticed the beginning of pain - no, ache - midfoot. The area under my right toes felt lumpy, where my left foot fit perfectly into the form of the shoe. Stopped around 3 miles, and relaced the shoes, with the loops at the top to keep my heel from slipping. That helped, but my right foot is more tender than it should feel after 4.5 of path.

I'm going to pop the orthotic (arch support) out of my Asics, and see if that works on a short run tomorrow. If not, I'll be heading back to the running store to switch out for the Asics 2140s. The shop has a guarantee, and I need to get the right shoes broken in, soonest. I have a 10k this weekend, which I can run in my older Asics, but the next half marathon is only two weeks away.

It was about 9 years ago, but from what I remember there wasn't any particular trouble spot.  The whole sole just sort of went flat after maybe a month (I was running pretty hard 5 days/week doing 5k cross-country training).  It's quite possible that they've improved since then, but after screwing up about a half season of track in high school I'm not really that interested in trying them again.  That, and I don't run anymore.  After those Nikes, I went to a shoe store run by a Podiatrist and got some shoes that were amazingly comfortable/good that allowed me to start running again after only a few weeks (I think about 3 or 4).  I don't remember the brand, but it was nothing I've seen in other shoe stores.  After that I stuck to Asics and never had a problem.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 23, 2009, 12:19:11 AM
If anyone cares, I broke the 9 mile walking barrier tonight.  4 miles from a half marathon.  Almost there.

Here's the direct link to my post:

http://fatnessbegone.com/2009/03/22/i-broke-the-9-mile-walking-barrier-tonight/ (http://fatnessbegone.com/2009/03/22/i-broke-the-9-mile-walking-barrier-tonight/)
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on March 23, 2009, 08:40:32 AM
If anyone cares, I broke the 9 mile walking barrier tonight.  4 miles from a half marathon.  Almost there.

Here's the direct link to my post:

http://fatnessbegone.com/2009/03/22/i-broke-the-9-mile-walking-barrier-tonight/ (http://fatnessbegone.com/2009/03/22/i-broke-the-9-mile-walking-barrier-tonight/)

Way to go!

Reminds me - I'd better lace up my shoes and step up the mileage. Now that the weather is warmer, it's time to play catch up on my goal for 2009.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Euler on March 23, 2009, 09:10:15 AM



True. The local running store I do my shopping at is wonderful at fitting. I've tried on many, many shoes, and run a lot of parking lot laps. I make it difficult by having completely mismatched feet. The brand doesn't matter as much to me as having a good fit for my narrow heels, and enough room for my toes to spread out. The Asics are pretty consistent on that, which is why they were my first choice.

Another great reason for the local running store? The exchange policy.

I used to go with the Asics 20xx-21xx's but I switched over to NB 1220's because of the wider toe box.  I liked the Asics but my toes were a little crammed.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 23, 2009, 02:14:56 PM


True. The local running store I do my shopping at is wonderful at fitting. I've tried on many, many shoes, and run a lot of parking lot laps. I make it difficult by having completely mismatched feet. The brand doesn't matter as much to me as having a good fit for my narrow heels, and enough room for my toes to spread out. The Asics are pretty consistent on that, which is why they were my first choice.

Another great reason for the local running store? The exchange policy.

I used to go with the Asics 20xx-21xx's but I switched over to NB 1220's because of the wider toe box.  I liked the Asics but my toes were a little crammed.
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One thing that I am noticing as I walk these longer distances is that you need VERY good padding in your shoes.  I'm experimenting with some gel inserts for my heels, and they help make things more comfortable. I'll be checking out some running shoe stores as my shoes are nearing replacement.  Maybe that will help a bit..
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on March 23, 2009, 02:45:24 PM
One thing that I am noticing as I walk these longer distances is that you need VERY good padding in your shoes.  I'm experimenting with some gel inserts for my heels, and they help make things more comfortable. I'll be checking out some running shoe stores as my shoes are nearing replacement.  Maybe that will help a bit..

Extra padding will help. Your stride may also change as you keep walking longer distance - gradual adjustments you make may lessen the heel strike. (I know it happens for runners.)

Changing up the surface you're walking on will help, too. Next time you're walking through the park, walk on the grass next to the sidewalk/path whenever possible. Just do a better job paying watching out for obstacles and holes hidden by grass/leaves than I do. I took a nose dive yesterday, when zoned out during a sidewalk to grassy shoulder transition. Luckily, the ground was still close to muddy from rain earlier in the week.

On a fun (& frugal) note, as you have less padding, your shoes will need less padding - you'll be able to save money on those inserts.  :D
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 23, 2009, 03:00:09 PM
One thing that I am noticing as I walk these longer distances is that you need VERY good padding in your shoes.  I'm experimenting with some gel inserts for my heels, and they help make things more comfortable. I'll be checking out some running shoe stores as my shoes are nearing replacement.  Maybe that will help a bit..

Extra padding will help. Your stride may also change as you keep walking longer distance - gradual adjustments you make may lessen the heel strike. (I know it happens for runners.)

Changing up the surface you're walking on will help, too. Next time you're walking through the park, walk on the grass next to the sidewalk/path whenever possible. Just do a better job paying watching out for obstacles and holes hidden by grass/leaves than I do. I took a nose dive yesterday, when zoned out during a sidewalk to grassy shoulder transition. Luckily, the ground was still close to muddy from rain earlier in the week.

On a fun (& frugal) note, as you have less padding, your shoes will need less padding - you'll be able to save money on those inserts.  :D

I am not too sure how much my heel situation will improve without surgery.  I have bone spurs in my heel which will eventually have to be removed.  It's not too bad now.  But eventually, I will have to have a procedure to have that cleared up. 

I'm actually trying to improve my walking technique.  I've been trying to incorporate racewalking techniques, and I'm getting better at it, but it's not easy.  Keeping your leg straight until it passes under your body is one of the most painful things that you can do to your shins until you get it down right.  The racewalking has also improved my time.  Now I just have to get over the upper body soreness that goes with it, especially in the deltoids, shoulders and triceps.  Not to mention the literal pain in the ass it is(Really, my glutes are sore as hell).  Right now when I walk I feel like the old guy Tim Conway would play on the old carol burnett show.  The greatest thing about walking is that it uses all the leg muscles instead of the few that cycling isolates.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on March 27, 2009, 04:12:12 PM
Picked up my race packet for the ING half marathon (Sunday). Am so excited - even though I don't expect to do terribly well. Allergies have hit me harder than usual this year.
Shooting for 2:10 or better, but will be happy with anything under 2:20.

Next week, I switch to cycling. Can't wait, as it will drop five pounds from my frame before the end of April, even with adding an average of 750 extra calories per day to my intake.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Lindsey on March 27, 2009, 04:15:51 PM
Picked up my race packet for the ING half marathon (Sunday). Am so excited - even though I don't expect to do terribly well. Allergies have hit me harder than usual this year.
Shooting for 2:10 or better, but will be happy with anything under 2:20.

Next week, I switch to cycling. Can't wait, as it will drop five pounds from my frame before the end of April, even with adding an average of 750 extra calories per day to my intake.

When you do cycling, how many miles do you do per day/week? 
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Dylboz on March 27, 2009, 04:18:07 PM
You need to go at least 10 miles for it to be a serious workout. I have a friend who trained for this charity cycle race that's 107 miles, and she started out doing 10 miles a day, and went up - WAY UP- from there.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on March 27, 2009, 04:29:25 PM
Picked up my race packet for the ING half marathon (Sunday). Am so excited - even though I don't expect to do terribly well. Allergies have hit me harder than usual this year.
Shooting for 2:10 or better, but will be happy with anything under 2:20.

Next week, I switch to cycling. Can't wait, as it will drop five pounds from my frame before the end of April, even with adding an average of 750 extra calories per day to my intake.

When you do cycling, how many miles do you do per day/week? 

I do about 5-10 miles a week in commute miles, year round. Road miles are something completely different.
When the weather's nice, I go for 15-30 mile rides, but those are not more than once a week yet this year.
I'm a wuss, and don't like riding when it's under 55.

By the end of April, I should be back up to about 75 miles per week on the bike, 5-10 miles of commuting (grocery shopping) and two or three 20-30 mile rides... and 15+ miles running. It'll be an everyday thing. When alternating running and cycling days, I find I don't really need the recovery days, unless it's the day after a particularly long & hilly ride/run.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on March 27, 2009, 04:32:41 PM
You need to go at least 10 miles for it to be a serious workout. I have a friend who trained for this charity cycle race that's 107 miles, and she started out doing 10 miles a day, and went up - WAY UP- from there.

Depends on the bike and the course, along with the starting level of fitness. If you're taking a heavy cruiser or comfort bike on a hilly route, it doesn't necessarily take 10 miles to kick your ass, especially in the heat & humidity of the deep south.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 27, 2009, 10:41:52 PM
You need to go at least 10 miles for it to be a serious workout. I have a friend who trained for this charity cycle race that's 107 miles, and she started out doing 10 miles a day, and went up - WAY UP- from there.

Depends on the bike and the course, along with the starting level of fitness. If you're taking a heavy cruiser or comfort bike on a hilly route, it doesn't necessarily take 10 miles to kick your ass, especially in the heat & humidity of the deep south.
It depends more on the level of fitness more than anything else.  When I first started going from fat to fit last month (30 pounds down, by the way.  10 more and I start resistance/core/ab training without weights...  WOoohooo) I was so winded just walking 2 miles.  Now, in as little as 20 workouts, I have been able to go all the way to my maximum today of 18.24 miles (not all at once.  I walked to my hair stylist (6 miles). From there, 3 miles to Petsmart(in the opposite direction), bought 10 cans of cat food, then walked all the way home from there.  It took me about 6 hours...  Since Starting I've walked over 125 miles at an average pace of just under 19.5 minutes per mile.  It's amazing how the human body can adjust in such a short period of time.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: BonerJoe on March 27, 2009, 10:48:23 PM
I lost 8 lbs in 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 27, 2009, 10:53:17 PM
I lost 8 lbs in 2 weeks.
Congrats joe...  Good for you.  How much are you exercising?
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: BonerJoe on March 27, 2009, 10:55:06 PM
I lost 8 lbs in 2 weeks.
Congrats joe...  Good for you.  How much are you exercising?

Biking 4 times a week and restricting my calorie intake to less than 1500.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: freeAgent on March 27, 2009, 11:02:47 PM
I lost 8 lbs in 2 weeks.
Congrats joe...  Good for you.  How much are you exercising?

Biking 4 times a week and restricting my calorie intake to less than 1500.

Congratulations, man.  It sounds like you're doing a pretty good job.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 27, 2009, 11:35:49 PM
I lost 8 lbs in 2 weeks.
Congrats joe...  Good for you.  How much are you exercising?

Biking 4 times a week and restricting my calorie intake to less than 1500.

Good.  How long are you exercising for when you do?  You might not be eating as much.  Find out what your BMI is (a simple calculation that includes your weight) once you do that, there are charts that you can look up somewhere (they are in my food/exercise tracker program( if you want to look into it go to keyoe.com)) that tells you how many calories you burn just sitting around.  This is the number of calories that you need to eat in order to maintain your current weight.  Then you can figure out how many calories you need to eat per day in order to reach your goal weight.  The more exercise you do, the more you can eat.  Just limit yourself to one high calorie day per week, and you should be fine.

Anyhow, I spent several months researching the most efficient and fastest ways to lose weight.  I didn't want to spin my wheels doing the wrong thing and waste time.  I'm getting old, and my weight has held me back for a while.   I gotta lose the weight before the health problems start kicking in.  My Mom had to have her foot amputated recently because of obesity and diabetes.  That ain't gonna happen to me.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Lindsey on March 27, 2009, 11:42:05 PM
I lost 8 lbs in 2 weeks.

Congrats.  I take it the new bike is working out well.   :)
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on March 28, 2009, 12:00:55 AM
I lost 8 lbs in 2 weeks.
Congrats joe...  Good for you.  How much are you exercising?

Biking 4 times a week and restricting my calorie intake to less than 1500.

Congrats on the cycling & weight loss!

As your rides get a bit longer, don't forget to bump up the calories a bit. I know you're working on losing weight, but you'll need the nutrients to keep your energy levels up and avoid the nagging aches & pains that can come from not giving your body what it needs to recover. The "good" fats will do wonders for you.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on March 28, 2009, 12:30:01 AM
I lost 8 lbs in 2 weeks.
Congrats joe...  Good for you.  How much are you exercising?

Biking 4 times a week and restricting my calorie intake to less than 1500.

Congrats on the cycling & weight loss!

As your rides get a bit longer, don't forget to bump up the calories a bit. I know you're working on losing weight, but you'll need the nutrients to keep your energy levels up and avoid the nagging aches & pains that can come from not giving your body what it needs to recover. The "good" fats will do wonders for you.

I concur.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on April 01, 2009, 08:00:01 AM
Hey, mbg! Gotta question (or 2):

How happy are you with the nike+? Are you pretty comfortable with the accuracy of the mileage and pace info?

I've been using MapMyRun/Ride and Distance on the iPhone, but am having glitches with the  GPS tracking when going thru areas where the phone has to keep switching back and forth between 3G & E. Doesn't seem to be a big problem on bike rides, but it's messing up the tracking of long slow runs. I have a nano, so the Nike+ might be a better alternative. Because I am NOT going to spend hundreds of dollars on a Garmin, no matter how awesome it would be.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on April 01, 2009, 05:07:41 PM
Hey, mbg! Gotta question (or 2):

How happy are you with the nike+? Are you pretty comfortable with the accuracy of the mileage and pace info?

I've been using MapMyRun/Ride and Distance on the iPhone, but am having glitches with the  GPS tracking when going thru areas where the phone has to keep switching back and forth between 3G & E. Doesn't seem to be a big problem on bike rides, but it's messing up the tracking of long slow runs. I have a nano, so the Nike+ might be a better alternative. Because I am NOT going to spend hundreds of dollars on a Garmin, no matter how awesome it would be.

Well I think that my Nike+ is actually UNDERreporting mileage.  Either that, or my bike computer is over-Reporting.  The bike computer has been recalibrated according to the manufacturers instructions.  The mileage my cateye is reporting matches within 3% of the distance from mapmyfitness.com's maps.  Also, down here, 10 city blocks is approximately 1 mile.  My cateye confirms this, my Nike+ tells me that I have to go like 13 blocks to get a mile. I guess it's about time I recalibrated the thing.

I almost forgot to ask.  How do you like the mapmyfitness sites?  I really want to like the site a lot better, but to me, the site design is horrible(it's hard to find certain things), and the integration with other things is lacking(I had a problem with the site;  It wouldn't accept my nike+ credentials, finding friends is impossible if you don't keep your address book online, and a whole bunch of other problems.  I am holding out hope that it will get better because the site has a big potential as a social network, but it's not there yet.

What do you think?
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on April 02, 2009, 06:56:31 PM
I almost forgot to ask.  How do you like the mapmyfitness sites?  I really want to like the site a lot better, but to me, the site design is horrible(it's hard to find certain things), and the integration with other things is lacking(I had a problem with the site;  It wouldn't accept my nike+ credentials, finding friends is impossible if you don't keep your address book online, and a whole bunch of other problems.  I am holding out hope that it will get better because the site has a big potential as a social network, but it's not there yet.

What do you think?

Meh. I upload the GPS/Route Data to mapmyride after each run or ride, but that's really just for storage. I've had loads of irritation dealing with their app on the iPhone, and am using the Distance app instead. Both mapmyride and Distance do a pretty good job with pacing, just not with total miles. I end up with the same run showing up as 4.6 miles one day, and 378 miles another, just because it dropped out of 3G somewhere along the way, and couldn't straighten it out when I moved back from E.

I have most of my routes mapped on the training log at RunnersWorld.com, which is a pretty good general fitness tool. I'm not sure how it handles the Nike+, but I keep up with everything there. Runs - hills, easy, long, tempo, races. Rides - hills, easy, long. Hikes with the kids, Yoga, kettlebell workouts.  The calorie data is most accurate on the running, but it'll give you either a general calorie burn, based on your distance, mph & weight, or the total based on those factors plus your HRM data.

For just plain old mapping tools, I have fallen in serious like with Gmaps Pedometer. It's wonderful. Will automatically trace the roads, meaning it's far more accurate, with fewer clicks. Here was today's easy hill route:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=2691010
Distance & the iPhone cooperated today, and there was less than a 1/10th of a mile discrepancy. Gmaps might be a good tool to check your nike+ and/or bike computer accuracy.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on April 09, 2009, 10:54:56 PM
Hey, miamiballoonguy!

Just read your last few blog posts. Can't get my comment on the 47+ mile ride to take - don't know why - but wanted to tell you how great you're doing.

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Way to go! That's a heck of a ride, especially considering you've only been working on the fitness for such a short time.

And, having seen your post about what's next, now that you've made it through the first month and 100+ miles, I'm looking forward to hearing about your next milestones.

On a side note, having seen the elevation for your long ride, I think I chose unwisely for my summer vacation / destination race. Miami would be so much kinder to my knees and ankles than Manitou Springs, CO.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on April 10, 2009, 10:07:15 AM
Hey, miamiballoonguy!

Just read your last few blog posts. Can't get my comment on the 47+ mile ride to take - don't know why - but wanted to tell you how great you're doing.

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Way to go! That's a heck of a ride, especially considering you've only been working on the fitness for such a short time.

And, having seen your post about what's next, now that you've made it through the first month and 100+ miles, I'm looking forward to hearing about your next milestones.

On a side note, having seen the elevation for your long ride, I think I chose unwisely for my summer vacation / destination race. Miami would be so much kinder to my knees and ankles than Manitou Springs, CO.


Thanks

I had a setback last week with my foot (The top of my right foot has been giving me problems, but I figured out that it was the heel insert in my shoe which has been replaced) but I'm back on track.

Miami had almost no elevation, which is good, but street walking around the easter part of Miami, it turns out that the sidewalks are pretty bad down here.  It seems like every 15 feet there is a driveway that causes the sidwalk to dip, and it is probably one of the reasons that I'm having problems with my foot.  I ended up walking around the old Orange Bowl Stadium (.8 miles around) because of the lack of those driveway dips.  hell, my foot is better but still hurts and I managed to walk my fastest mile yesterday in 17 M 29 Seconds.  6 weeks ago when I started, I was at 22 minutes per mile.  I want to try out a triathlon next year, but since I can't run due to the back surgery, I will have to racewalk.  I want to get my timing to about 13 to 15 minutes a mile just to be able to complete the triathlon.  Then there's that swimming thing I have to start soon.

If you EVER were to ride down here, I am not sure that you could handle it without fearing for your life.  You literally need to have balls of steel to ride on the streets down here.  Don't get caught riding on the sidewalk, either...  You can get a ticket.  The drivers here have got to be in this country's top 3 for worst drivers.  There are very few bike lanes, driver's could give a crap.  Hell, I've almost been run over by cars on those driveway dips in the sidewalk.  I've noticed that when people are pulling out of these driveways, and you are walking on the sidewalk against traffic, people won't even look to that side when they pull up and will hit you.  It happened to me yesterday.  The mutherfucker pulled up within an inch of me and I walked into the freaking thing.  I was this close to jumping through the window and beating the crap out of the guy.

As far as the comments thing on the blog, thanks for letting me know.  The problem is with one of my plugins.  I disabled it for now until I can sit down and figure out what the heck is wrong, so if you feel like commenting, go for it!
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: slayerboy on April 12, 2009, 12:34:03 AM
So, I got inspired, thanks to this thread in the forum and my sick of being fat.  I joined Gold's Gym.  Not the way I'd like to workout, but it's the closest thing to having all the equipment at home lol.

I also signed up for an online service called FitSync.  They have an app for my Android phone that was $2.00 and it gives you access to all the workouts that you enter on their website.  Website access is free, so this is pretty good motivation for me.  http://app.fitsync.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=789

I get out of work in the morning, drive to Gold's that's on my way home, do my workout with my mp3's blastin in my ears from my Android and I'm good to go.  I hate the crowds at gyms, but this one seems to be ok.  Not too crowded, just a bunch of seniors.

I just completed my first whole week back lifting and I love it again.  Cardio is a different story lol.  Next thing I need to do is work on quitting smoking.  I've already pretty much eliminated soda out of my diet.  Got myself a nice BPA-Free waterbottle at Target that I carry around religiously so far lol.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: jeffersonish on April 12, 2009, 02:55:44 AM
I'm going to school to become a paralegal starting this week. Since I already have a lot of school under my belt, I only have to do one year vs. the whole 2 year program. I figure this is a good time to get serious about losing weight. I'm at 290+ and my ideal weight is about 190. Charts say even lower, but I got down to 190 in 1994 and I was in great shape. I wouldn't have wanted to be any less. I think I had 9% body fat. I will do basically what I did then which is work out a lot -- 2 to 3 times per day, one day off per week. Swim, jog (that will translate to cycling this time), basketball.

Also the diet was closely monitored. I was burning over 2000 calories per day per my calcs and taking in about 1500. Breakfast was oatmeal with juice instead of milk in it.  Lunch was rice and veggies. Dinner included 8-10 oz of lean meat, a vegetable and something like a baked potato topped with light italian dressing.

If I was out and about and got hungry but didn't have anything planned with me, I would get either a bean burrito at Taco Bell or a hamburger with no cheese from McDonalds. Those were the lowest calorie items and they could take the edge off till I got back home.

Also, no sweets period... no alcohol... no sodas -- I drank a lot of unsweetened ice tea and water.

I don't think I cheated more than once or twice and that was moderate... possibly a little straying at a potluck or some such. It was when I was around 190-200 that I climbed a cliff in Tahoe's Desolation Wilderness with a buddy. I would never make that in my current state.

This time I plan on staying at 200 +/- about 10 lbs. And whether I like it or not, when I go for interviews a year from now, I will have a much better chance of landing a job if I am very fit.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on April 12, 2009, 10:51:44 PM
So, I got inspired, thanks to this thread in the forum and my sick of being fat.  I joined Gold's Gym.  Not the way I'd like to workout, but it's the closest thing to having all the equipment at home lol.

I also signed up for an online service called FitSync.  They have an app for my Android phone that was $2.00 and it gives you access to all the workouts that you enter on their website.  Website access is free, so this is pretty good motivation for me.  http://app.fitsync.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=789

I get out of work in the morning, drive to Gold's that's on my way home, do my workout with my mp3's blastin in my ears from my Android and I'm good to go.  I hate the crowds at gyms, but this one seems to be ok.  Not too crowded, just a bunch of seniors.

I just completed my first whole week back lifting and I love it again.  Cardio is a different story lol.  Next thing I need to do is work on quitting smoking.  I've already pretty much eliminated soda out of my diet.  Got myself a nice BPA-Free waterbottle at Target that I carry around religiously so far lol.

Good for you.  You should subscribe to my blog, just for shit's and giggles.  I'm down 35 pounds in about 6 weeks.  5 more pounds until I start some resistance training.

It's funny, it seems that you like cardio about as much as I like resistance training and I like cardio as much as you like resistance training.

Well, I'm down to my last few packs.  Once they're gone, they are gone.  I don't want to pay for the poor children's health care program.  Think about it that way.

I prefer the camelback to the water bottle, but then again, I get to use it to workout and to make balloons.  Once I got it, I didn't have to stop, pick up the water, put it down and dry off my hand, or even worse, have the water go hot on me while I'm out in the sun making balloons.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: anarchir on April 12, 2009, 10:55:14 PM
I too prefer camel packs (or platypus bladders, same thing) to water bottles. Of course, when I backpack I carry 2 water bottles at least and use the pack as the reserve since it stays cool longer and is tougher to fill.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on April 12, 2009, 10:57:50 PM
I'm going to school to become a paralegal starting this week. Since I already have a lot of school under my belt, I only have to do one year vs. the whole 2 year program. I figure this is a good time to get serious about losing weight. I'm at 290+ and my ideal weight is about 190. Charts say even lower, but I got down to 190 in 1994 and I was in great shape. I wouldn't have wanted to be any less. I think I had 9% body fat. I will do basically what I did then which is work out a lot -- 2 to 3 times per day, one day off per week. Swim, jog (that will translate to cycling this time), basketball.

Also the diet was closely monitored. I was burning over 2000 calories per day per my calcs and taking in about 1500. Breakfast was oatmeal with juice instead of milk in it.  Lunch was rice and veggies. Dinner included 8-10 oz of lean meat, a vegetable and something like a baked potato topped with light italian dressing.

If I was out and about and got hungry but didn't have anything planned with me, I would get either a bean burrito at Taco Bell or a hamburger with no cheese from McDonalds. Those were the lowest calorie items and they could take the edge off till I got back home.

Also, no sweets period... no alcohol... no sodas -- I drank a lot of unsweetened ice tea and water.

I don't think I cheated more than once or twice and that was moderate... possibly a little straying at a potluck or some such. It was when I was around 190-200 that I climbed a cliff in Tahoe's Desolation Wilderness with a buddy. I would never make that in my current state.

This time I plan on staying at 200 +/- about 10 lbs. And whether I like it or not, when I go for interviews a year from now, I will have a much better chance of landing a job if I am very fit.

The chicken soft tacos are better than the bean burrito.  The grilled chicken sandwich without the mayo is better than the burger at McDonalds. 

How tall are you?  You might not be eating enough.  from what I've learned, Guys should be in the 1800 to 2200 calorie per day range, depending on the amount of exercise that you do.  If you don't eat enough, you will lose muscle instead of fat.  You might want to look into the Body for Life program.  It sounds like it might be up your alley.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on April 12, 2009, 11:00:09 PM
I too prefer camel packs (or platypus bladders, same thing) to water bottles. Of course, when I backpack I carry 2 water bottles at least and use the pack as the reserve since it stays cool longer and is tougher to fill.

Those camel backs are the best thing since sliced bread, man.  Not having to lug a water bottle for 14 miles is great.  And the best thing about them is that they get lighter the further you go.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: BonerJoe on April 12, 2009, 11:04:08 PM
I've been losing a steady 2lbs a week. I'm happy with that.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: anarchir on April 12, 2009, 11:26:18 PM
I too prefer camel packs (or platypus bladders, same thing) to water bottles. Of course, when I backpack I carry 2 water bottles at least and use the pack as the reserve since it stays cool longer and is tougher to fill.

Those camel backs are the best thing since sliced bread, man.  Not having to lug a water bottle for 14 miles is great.  And the best thing about them is that they get lighter the further you go.

When they are completely empty? Sooo light.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on April 12, 2009, 11:50:05 PM
I've been losing a steady 2lbs a week. I'm happy with that.

Good for you jay.  How much exercising?
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: BonerJoe on April 12, 2009, 11:56:10 PM
I've been losing a steady 2lbs a week. I'm happy with that.

Good for you jay.  How much exercising?

Not enough.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on April 22, 2009, 10:06:00 AM
I finally broke the 300 pound barrier.  I am now below 300 pounds for the first time since Hurricane Wilma in 2005.

I'm excited.  40 down, 100 to go.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: freeAgent on April 22, 2009, 07:23:22 PM
I finally broke the 300 pound barrier.  I am now below 300 pounds for the first time since Hurricane Wilma in 2005.

I'm excited.  40 down, 100 to go.

Woot!  Congrats :)
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on April 22, 2009, 07:34:06 PM
I finally broke the 300 pound barrier.  I am now below 300 pounds for the first time since Hurricane Wilma in 2005.

I'm excited.  40 down, 100 to go.

Woot!  Congrats :)

I had a clusterf*CK of a day today, so I was only able to exercise for about an hour and a half.  I feel guilty about it, lol.  But I guess that I should look at it as a light day.  I'll probably be able to do a nice full day workout tomorrow.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: slayerboy on April 29, 2009, 10:10:39 AM
I finally broke the 300 pound barrier.  I am now below 300 pounds for the first time since Hurricane Wilma in 2005.

I'm excited.  40 down, 100 to go.

Gratz!

I lost 10lbs since dumping the soda out of my diet.  And I now officially drink coffee BLACK without any sugar or creamer.  I changed my workout routine too.

I also started a Fitness log Blog :P  just to keep me on my toes
http://slayerboyfitness.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on April 29, 2009, 07:33:23 PM
I finally broke the 300 pound barrier.  I am now below 300 pounds for the first time since Hurricane Wilma in 2005.

I'm excited.  40 down, 100 to go.

Gratz!

I lost 10lbs since dumping the soda out of my diet.  And I now officially drink coffee BLACK without any sugar or creamer.  I changed my workout routine too.

I also started a Fitness log Blog :P  just to keep me on my toes
http://slayerboyfitness.blogspot.com/

Good for you.  I've added your blog to my RSS reader.  Nice workout.  I have to start looking for a gym.  I've got to start lifting.  As a matter of fact, I'm going to walk to one now and look into it.  There are a bunch of no contract gyms around here, so I'm going to walk a couple of miles to check it out.

One thing though...  Yoga and Stretching are not cardio.  Yoga Helps with Toning and Sculpting, Balance, Flexibility, and Strength.  You can't really get your heart rate up fast enough for the cardio and fat loss benefits.  Also, depending on how much you want to lose, you are not doing enough cardio.  How intense are those Wii workouts anyhow?  23 minutes of cardio is only the beginning, unless you are doing them at max intensity. 
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: slayerboy on April 30, 2009, 10:59:23 AM
Good for you.  I've added your blog to my RSS reader.  Nice workout.  I have to start looking for a gym.  I've got to start lifting.  As a matter of fact, I'm going to walk to one now and look into it.  There are a bunch of no contract gyms around here, so I'm going to walk a couple of miles to check it out.

One thing though...  Yoga and Stretching are not cardio.  Yoga Helps with Toning and Sculpting, Balance, Flexibility, and Strength.  You can't really get your heart rate up fast enough for the cardio and fat loss benefits.  Also, depending on how much you want to lose, you are not doing enough cardio.  How intense are those Wii workouts anyhow?  23 minutes of cardio is only the beginning, unless you are doing them at max intensity. 

Yeah I love lifting, hate cardio.  For simplicity sake, I put yoga and balance stuff in with cardio considering I don't do much yoga other than simple stretches and breathing.  The big thing is the boxing.  I love the Rhythm boxing but it gets boring quick.  I'm going to be renting Gold's Gym Cardio Workout for the Wii from Gamefly (http://www.gamefly.com/game/Wii/Gold%27s-Gym-Cardio-Workout/134900/) and see if I like that.

I hate cardio with a passion, so 23 mins of anything making me move around is better than anything right now :P  I get bored on the stationary bike at the gym, as well as the treadmill.  I love having the option of doing cardio with the Wii.  Hopefully the Gold's Gym game gives a better workout than WiiFit.  Not that I hate WiiFit, it's just lacking in a lot of areas, but tracking and being able to get my weight at the same time is nice.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: slayerboy on April 30, 2009, 11:02:41 AM
Also, if anyone has the Wii or WiiFit, EA is coming out with a new fitness game called EA Sports Active.  It looks like it takes the WiiFit a step higher.  Not sure I want all the extra crap that comes with it, but we'll see.  Also, I'm not impressed with a lot of the games EA puts out, so this I'll definitely wait to hear more reviews on.

http://www.easportsactive.com/
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on April 30, 2009, 07:28:03 PM
Good for you.  I've added your blog to my RSS reader.  Nice workout.  I have to start looking for a gym.  I've got to start lifting.  As a matter of fact, I'm going to walk to one now and look into it.  There are a bunch of no contract gyms around here, so I'm going to walk a couple of miles to check it out.

One thing though...  Yoga and Stretching are not cardio.  Yoga Helps with Toning and Sculpting, Balance, Flexibility, and Strength.  You can't really get your heart rate up fast enough for the cardio and fat loss benefits.  Also, depending on how much you want to lose, you are not doing enough cardio.  How intense are those Wii workouts anyhow?  23 minutes of cardio is only the beginning, unless you are doing them at max intensity. 

Yeah I love lifting, hate cardio.  For simplicity sake, I put yoga and balance stuff in with cardio considering I don't do much yoga other than simple stretches and breathing.  The big thing is the boxing.  I love the Rhythm boxing but it gets boring quick.  I'm going to be renting Gold's Gym Cardio Workout for the Wii from Gamefly (http://www.gamefly.com/game/Wii/Gold%27s-Gym-Cardio-Workout/134900/) and see if I like that.

I hate cardio with a passion, so 23 mins of anything making me move around is better than anything right now :P  I get bored on the stationary bike at the gym, as well as the treadmill.  I love having the option of doing cardio with the Wii.  Hopefully the Gold's Gym game gives a better workout than WiiFit.  Not that I hate WiiFit, it's just lacking in a lot of areas, but tracking and being able to get my weight at the same time is nice.

Have you thought of going for powerwalks or bike rides outside of the gym.  You get lots of fresh air, sun, and if you have a good audiobook(I just finished my first star wars book.  The Dark lord or something like that which details Darth Vader's rise after the events of Episode 3, but like 15 to 20 years before episode 4).  It goes by fast.  I just completed a half marathon in about 4 hours and 15 minutes...  I didn't go at top speed because I've been riding more than walking lately and my feet were killing me during the last 2 miles or so.  Getting a pedometer or nike+ makes walking a lot more fun.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: slayerboy on April 30, 2009, 09:22:08 PM

Have you thought of going for powerwalks or bike rides outside of the gym.  You get lots of fresh air, sun, and if you have a good audiobook(I just finished my first star wars book.  The Dark lord or something like that which details Darth Vader's rise after the events of Episode 3, but like 15 to 20 years before episode 4).  It goes by fast.  I just completed a half marathon in about 4 hours and 15 minutes...  I didn't go at top speed because I've been riding more than walking lately and my feet were killing me during the last 2 miles or so.  Getting a pedometer or nike+ makes walking a lot more fun.


Once in a while I will take a walk outside, but Rochester isn't known for sunny weather.  The problem up here is from around October - April, the weather can be brutal or it can be nice, it's hard to form a routine out of that.  But yeah, in the late spring/summer I try to walk a little bit.

I've actually been reading up on interval training and to me at least, it seems to make more sense.  http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2009/01/27/kick-your-ass-and-kickstart-your-metabolism-in-20-minutes/
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: BonerJoe on April 30, 2009, 10:17:38 PM
I drove 400 miles out of the way today to get a dozen of these donuts:

http://www.roundrockdonuts.com/

So worth it.

Now, back to my regularly scheduled diet.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on April 30, 2009, 10:44:30 PM

Have you thought of going for powerwalks or bike rides outside of the gym.  You get lots of fresh air, sun, and if you have a good audiobook(I just finished my first star wars book.  The Dark lord or something like that which details Darth Vader's rise after the events of Episode 3, but like 15 to 20 years before episode 4).  It goes by fast.  I just completed a half marathon in about 4 hours and 15 minutes...  I didn't go at top speed because I've been riding more than walking lately and my feet were killing me during the last 2 miles or so.  Getting a pedometer or nike+ makes walking a lot more fun.


Once in a while I will take a walk outside, but Rochester isn't known for sunny weather.  The problem up here is from around October - April, the weather can be brutal or it can be nice, it's hard to form a routine out of that.  But yeah, in the late spring/summer I try to walk a little bit.

I've actually been reading up on interval training and to me at least, it seems to make more sense.  http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2009/01/27/kick-your-ass-and-kickstart-your-metabolism-in-20-minutes/

I found a gym.  38.99 per month, no contracts.  Looks like a decent gym.  I will be checking it out tomorrow.

Also, I walked a half marathon today, that was 13.1  miles.  I'm tired.  Not too sore, but tired.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on April 30, 2009, 10:45:43 PM
I drove 400 miles out of the way today to get a dozen of these donuts:

http://www.roundrockdonuts.com/

So worth it.

Now, back to my regularly scheduled diet.

How you doing with that?  How much have you lost?
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: BonerJoe on April 30, 2009, 10:51:52 PM
I dunno, I didnt bring a scale with me.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on April 30, 2009, 10:58:09 PM
I dunno, I didnt bring a scale with me.

Well let us know when you get back.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Lindsey on April 30, 2009, 11:10:12 PM
I dunno, I didnt bring a scale with me.

Where the Hell ARE you, anyway? 
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: BonerJoe on April 30, 2009, 11:15:46 PM
I dunno, I didnt bring a scale with me.

Where the Hell ARE you, anyway? 

Niggerssippi.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Lindsey on April 30, 2009, 11:21:59 PM
I dunno, I didnt bring a scale with me.

Where the Hell ARE you, anyway? 

Niggerssippi.

Eeek.  I must've missed the details of that particular trip.  Did you get pictures? 
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: BonerJoe on April 30, 2009, 11:25:13 PM
Did you get pictures? 

Shaw has a fat cat:

(http://petmeats.com/shawcat.jpg)
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: slayerboy on May 01, 2009, 09:29:27 AM
I found a gym.  38.99 per month, no contracts.  Looks like a decent gym.  I will be checking it out tomorrow.

Also, I walked a half marathon today, that was 13.1  miles.  I'm tired.  Not too sore, but tired.

Nice...no contracts is nice.  I'm paying $39/month at Gold's Gym, but it's a contract.  Good luck! :)
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on May 01, 2009, 08:55:51 PM
I found a gym.  38.99 per month, no contracts.  Looks like a decent gym.  I will be checking it out tomorrow.

Also, I walked a half marathon today, that was 13.1  miles.  I'm tired.  Not too sore, but tired.

Nice...no contracts is nice.  I'm paying $39/month at Gold's Gym, but it's a contract.  Good luck! :)

I'm not a fan of gold's.  It seems that every time I've tried to cancel after my contract is up, they never seem to do.  The one down here is trying to charge me like $800 because according to them, I never cancelled.  Be careful.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on May 01, 2009, 08:56:10 PM
Did you get pictures? 

Shaw has a fat cat:

(http://petmeats.com/shawcat.jpg)

Now that's a fat cat!
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: slayerboy on May 02, 2009, 12:30:25 AM
I'm not a fan of gold's.  It seems that every time I've tried to cancel after my contract is up, they never seem to do.  The one down here is trying to charge me like $800 because according to them, I never cancelled.  Be careful.

ouch that sucks.  I'll be on the lookout for that if/when I decide to not renew.  I know each Gold's is franchised, so I'm hoping the one in your area is just run by a piece of shit.  So far I have nothing bad to say about the one up here, the guy ones the one I go to and another one about 15 mins away.  We'll see.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on May 02, 2009, 09:03:47 AM
I'm not a fan of gold's.  It seems that every time I've tried to cancel after my contract is up, they never seem to do.  The one down here is trying to charge me like $800 because according to them, I never cancelled.  Be careful.

ouch that sucks.  I'll be on the lookout for that if/when I decide to not renew.  I know each Gold's is franchised, so I'm hoping the one in your area is just run by a piece of shit.  So far I have nothing bad to say about the one up here, the guy ones the one I go to and another one about 15 mins away.  We'll see.

Yeah, the guys a slimey dickhead.  He also happens to own another gold's across town that I used to belong to.  He tried to pull it off with me when I was there.  When I signed on to the new one, I did not know it was owned by the same guy.  I only knew about it a few weeks later.  Just make sure they don't double charge you, which has also happenned to me at a Gold's in California.  That's also a pain in the ass.

I am going to use a different gym now.  I am close to what was formerly known as the Orange Bowl, which is where I walk around the perimeter for racewalking and the gym is within a block on the other side.  Small, new equipment, no contract, $40.  Open til midnight.  I start tomorrow.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on June 18, 2009, 08:09:07 PM
50 pounds down, 90 to go....

I'm happy.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Diogenes The Cynic on June 18, 2009, 09:36:48 PM
50 pounds down, 90 to go....

I'm happy.

You're deflating.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on June 19, 2009, 09:02:39 AM
50 pounds down, 90 to go....

I'm happy.

You're deflating.
LOL  Technically I am...   
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on June 23, 2009, 05:22:43 PM
50 pounds down, 90 to go....

I'm happy.

You're deflating.
LOL  Technically I am...   

That's in what... about five months?  Congrats on the double achievement. Not just losing weight and improving your health, but on keeping it going long enough that the healthier living is probably shifting into a lifestyle, and not just a temporary measure for weight loss.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: davann on June 23, 2009, 06:52:25 PM
50 pounds down, 90 to go....

I'm happy.

Great for you! Keep it up!
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on June 23, 2009, 07:32:59 PM
50 pounds down, 90 to go....

I'm happy.

You're deflating.
LOL  Technically I am...   

That's in what... about five months?  Congrats on the double achievement. Not just losing weight and improving your health, but on keeping it going long enough that the healthier living is probably shifting into a lifestyle, and not just a temporary measure for weight loss.

Actually, it was in less than 3 months.  And yes, I'm keeping on, keeping on.  I've got a lot more to lose, and I don't want to gain it back...
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Dylboz on June 23, 2009, 08:37:33 PM
I am wearing size 34 pants again. You know what helps? Poverty. In a few weeks I'll be down under 200 again. I'm 6'2". I'm shooting for 190-195.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: freeAgent on June 23, 2009, 08:56:58 PM
I am wearing size 34 pants again. You know what helps? Poverty. In a few weeks I'll be down under 200 again. I'm 6'2". I'm shooting for 190-195.

Being broke does help keep your weight down.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Lindsey on June 23, 2009, 09:19:02 PM
I am wearing size 34 pants again. You know what helps? Poverty. In a few weeks I'll be down under 200 again. I'm 6'2". I'm shooting for 190-195.

Being broke does help keep your weight down.

Only if you don't resort to the dollar menus at fast food joints.   :lol:
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on June 23, 2009, 10:25:29 PM
Being broke does help keep your weight down.

Only if you don't resort to the dollar menus at fast food joints.   :lol:
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So often true. Though... it's not eating the value burger that expands the waistline. It's taking the $5 in your pocket and buying five items when you go around the drive-thru, instead of just the value burger and a side salad.*

*Assuming Wendy's here, since I tend to avoid the other folks whenever possible. Even the supposed healthy items on McD's menu leave me feeling "icky". Had few options one meal stop in the middle of Kansas on our cross-country trek, and tried the grilled chicken wrap. Will not be doing that again.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on June 24, 2009, 08:10:10 AM
Being broke does help keep your weight down.

Only if you don't resort to the dollar menus at fast food joints.   :lol:

So often true. Though... it's not eating the value burger that expands the waistline. It's taking the $5 in your pocket and buying five items when you go around the drive-thru, instead of just the value burger and a side salad.*

*Assuming Wendy's here, since I tend to avoid the other folks whenever possible. Even the supposed healthy items on McD's menu leave me feeling "icky". Had few options one meal stop in the middle of Kansas on our cross-country trek, and tried the grilled chicken wrap. Will not be doing that again.
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This is so true, although the only good things at McDonalds are the egg McMuffin andthe grilled chicken sandwich.  Stay away from the fries and hashbrowns.  Although I have been eating almost excusively at subway when I eat out.  Thank goodness for subway.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Dylboz on June 24, 2009, 01:27:56 PM
McDonald's salads are very good, and good for you. Just don't get the deep fried chicken and you're set.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: BonerJoe on August 12, 2009, 03:09:01 PM
YOU HAVENT UPDATED YOUR BLOG
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Riddler on August 12, 2009, 07:40:08 PM
YOU HAVENT UPDATED YOUR BLOG

jesus....maybe all that excercise kilt him?
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on August 13, 2009, 08:57:57 AM
YOU HAVENT UPDATED YOUR BLOG

jesus....maybe all that excercise kilt him?

I'm here.

Have been maintaining, but have had lots of stuff happening right now.  I'll be back to updating it soon.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Riddler on August 13, 2009, 05:29:44 PM
McDonald's salads are very good, and good for you. Just don't get the deep fried chicken and you're set.


err, i'd be a little suspect as to why they have such a shelf life (can you say preservatives?)
most lettuce, veggies, go to wilt shortly after you cut/chop them up (next day)
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on August 14, 2009, 11:16:32 AM
McDonald's salads are very good, and good for you. Just don't get the deep fried chicken and you're set.


err, i'd be a little suspect as to why they have such a shelf life (can you say preservatives?)
most lettuce, veggies, go to wilt shortly after you cut/chop them up (next day)

Those things are made fresh every morning, at least that is what is what I have been told.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on August 26, 2009, 12:34:39 PM
As of this morning, I'm down the six pounds I put on during the Summer of Laziness. Fell off quickly once I got back into regular exercise schedule - about two weeks is all. Now I just have to keep alternating bike & run days, and build back up the endurance I lost during the same time.
It's a bitch to get noodly legs at 35 miles on the bike, or to have to do a 1/4 mile walk of shame up the hill @ mile 8 on my long slow run.

Have three half marathons (13.1 mi) on the calendar, but had to drop the half metric century (63 mile ride) I was working toward, because it conflicts with teen's cross country schedule, and possibly a move.

Big plan is to get thru this autumn at decent level of fitness, avoid injury, and start training in January for a full marathon (26.2 mi) in the spring.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Bill Brasky on August 26, 2009, 02:30:49 PM
As of this morning, I'm down the six pounds I put on during the Summer of Laziness. Fell off quickly once I got back into regular exercise schedule - about two weeks is all. Now I just have to keep alternating bike & run days, and build back up the endurance I lost during the same time.
It's a bitch to get noodly legs at 35 miles on the bike, or to have to do a 1/4 mile walk of shame up the hill @ mile 8 on my long slow run.

Have three half marathons (13.1 mi) on the calendar, but had to drop the half metric century (63 mile ride) I was working toward, because it conflicts with teen's cross country schedule, and possibly a move.

Big plan is to get thru this autumn at decent level of fitness, avoid injury, and start training in January for a full marathon (26.2 mi) in the spring.

My kid is doing 6 to 8 miles every morning, I think she's averaging 8.5 min per.  You got any generic advice to pass along?  Favorite brand of sneaks, drink mix powders, power bars, stuff like that?  I don't want to juice her like wrestlers with the megamax shit, but I'm starting to think maybe it would be wise to include something healthy like that in her routine.  She's 14, and eats like a teenager, which is sporadic as you know.  I'm a little concerned that the factors could align by accident, maybe she'll be a little low on the iron or something after her visit from the rag fairy, see spots and faceplant.  She's a kid, I'm a guy, and her mom is...  lets not go there.  So, I wasn't joking about that.  I'm just shoveling lots of steaks and pasta at her, in lieu of a visit to GNC, where I'd rather not discuss things as frankly with Biff Awesome. 

The kid has the endurance of a Marine.  She absolutely never complains about anything.  So I have to interrogate and be more proactive about the details, knowing she'll just carry on with what she's got.  In a way, thats good, but I'd have less concerns if she was a complainer, there'd be no questions about discomfort or fatigue. 

 
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on August 26, 2009, 04:28:45 PM
As of this morning, I'm down the six pounds I put on during the Summer of Laziness. Fell off quickly once I got back into regular exercise schedule - about two weeks is all. Now I just have to keep alternating bike & run days, and build back up the endurance I lost during the same time.
It's a bitch to get noodly legs at 35 miles on the bike, or to have to do a 1/4 mile walk of shame up the hill @ mile 8 on my long slow run.

Have three half marathons (13.1 mi) on the calendar, but had to drop the half metric century (63 mile ride) I was working toward, because it conflicts with teen's cross country schedule, and possibly a move.

Big plan is to get thru this autumn at decent level of fitness, avoid injury, and start training in January for a full marathon (26.2 mi) in the spring.

My kid is doing 6 to 8 miles every morning, I think she's averaging 8.5 min per.  You got any generic advice to pass along?  Favorite brand of sneaks, drink mix powders, power bars, stuff like that?  I don't want to juice her like wrestlers with the megamax shit, but I'm starting to think maybe it would be wise to include something healthy like that in her routine.  She's 14, and eats like a teenager, which is sporadic as you know.  I'm a little concerned that the factors could align by accident, maybe she'll be a little low on the iron or something after her visit from the rag fairy, see spots and faceplant.  She's a kid, I'm a guy, and her mom is...  lets not go there.  So, I wasn't joking about that.  I'm just shoveling lots of steaks and pasta at her, in lieu of a visit to GNC, where I'd rather not discuss things as frankly with Biff Awesome.  

The kid has the endurance of a Marine.  She absolutely never complains about anything.  So I have to interrogate and be more proactive about the details, knowing she'll just carry on with what she's got.  In a way, thats good, but I'd have less concerns if she was a complainer, there'd be no questions about discomfort or fatigue.  

  

I started running less than two years ago, at 36, and spend half my available workout time on the bike - so I'm not necessarily a great source of info on this, but I'll try. Taking recovery days is important. Can still be active days, biking, hiking, swimming, etc., just not running. Eating a good variety of vegetables, fruit, protein, and whole grains should keep your daughter going. I eat granola, fruit and yogurt most mornings - and take some combination of cheese, fruit, nuts, fig newtons, chocolate milk, juice, etc. along for after. When I have a run/ride that's longer than an hour, I always take along some sport beans (jelly belly makes them) or one of the flavored "gu" packs for the half way point. I'll down it with water, and it helps keep me from running out of steam (low blood sugar/electrolytes) on the way home. Not a fan of the sports drinks during a workout, but I like an icy vitamin water on days when Hotlanta is living up to it's name.

Making a handful of almonds and cashews part of normal snacking can really do a lot to make sure she's getting "good" fats, which is important. (Heck, the snacking is extremely important. A big evening meal may get her the calories she needs, but the smaller snacks thru the day makes for speedier recovery from a workout. It's going to mean that in order to keep going and keep improving, she'll have to keep a healthier relationship with foods than the typical teen girl - which is probably a good thing.)  I can't take iron supplements on a daily basis, 'cause they upset my stomach, so I have to keep an eye out for the signs when I'm getting a little low. I eat a lot of black beans, use molasses in baking, and try to make sure I eat a good variety of foods.

My son's running cross country this year, and we're still figuring out what works for him with his afterschool snack stash. He keeps a few granola bars, a pack or two of pretzels, and fruit chews in his locker to eat between when school lets out and practice begins. I can give advice, but he needs to do most of the work to see what fuel works best for him on particular days... more salt some days, more carbs others.

For a female viewpoint on your daughter's running and nutrition, you might want to see if you can't get her plugged into the local running store. Most stores have weekly runs for all levels**, and will have an experienced woman along on the runs, if not on staff at the store. She'll get solid advice about her running form and be able to find out from women who have been exactly where she is the various signs that let her know which foods she needs to be eating, and when. The folks at the store(s) near my house have been super helpful when I've had questions about gear, pacing, oddball aches, and my first lost toenail. The articles and forums at Runners World website are also a fantastic source of information. Plus, there's quite a few delicious recipes there, tailored by runners, for runners.

**This means you could run, too.   :P

Hopefully, this wasn't too long & rambling. I could probably keep going for a while, but need to get started on our supper, so it's on the table by the time my XC teen gets home. (Ginger Beef with Garlic Green Beans, and Fried (brown) Rice)
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Bill Brasky on August 26, 2009, 06:29:38 PM

Hopefully, this wasn't too long & rambling.

No, it was very helpful.  I appreciate it.

She's got a running coach, this is the summer program to begin fall cross-country.  He seems like a good guy and all, they work on form and all that running coach stuff.  But just like a classroom, theres not much one-on-one mentoring, and she's very reserved in public, as I mentioned no complaints - so the coach is unlikely to hear anything but the earth-shattering worstest from her.  Ounce of prevention, and all.  So she's got the peer group covered, I'm lookiing for the inside scoop on tips and wisdom because I don't involve myself with the team, and won't have the chance anyway, once school starts. 

Also, just mentioning, she is exclusively running, not x-training or biking.  For some reason, refuses to run on weekends.  I think she's assigned that as "me time" for herself.  Her elaborations are usually monosyllabic and she wields veto power ruthlessly. 

I might start getting her Runners World so she can browse it at her leisure.  She's an odd bird, doesn't like the computer so won't browse the webz for runner stuff. 

Theres a lot to ponder there, thanks again.  Good stuff.

Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: CaL DaVe on August 31, 2009, 08:56:47 PM
as I mentioned no complaints - so the coach is unlikely to hear anything but the earth-shattering worstest from her. 

I used to do x-country in high school and early in college until I started rowing lightweight crew. And I noticed that a lot of the female endurance athletes were the type that would keep going no matter what the physical issue was. In high school it meant a lot of injuries to female x-country runners. But in college, the women understood themselves better and were able to understand the difference between the good pain, that lets you know you are working out hard, and bad pain, that means you are about to pull something. 

But regardless,  the men would never seem to have as many injuries as the women. On the surface it looks like women are all around weaker, however, I've thought about it for a long time and come to a hypothesis that a woman's body is weaker than a man's, but their mind is stronger when it comes to pain. So strong that they would frequently push their bodies over the limit and injure themselves. I think women have extremely strong minds, and pound for pound can get more our of their bodies than a man. A great attribute for an endurance athlete to have. Coaches always tell you to use your mind to push your body past the pain.  However, early on in training, without understanding how to use their strength in the correct manor, females may push too far and get injured. Of course this is relevant to men as well but I think women are more susceptible to it, because of their pain threshold.

My point is to make sure you ask her coach (because she likely won't listen to you on the subject - just a hunch :) )  if he is making sure to teach the difference between good pain, and bad pain. From your description, it sounds like you have a quality athlete on your hands and it would be a shame if she got a really bad knee injury early on.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on August 31, 2009, 10:08:51 PM
teach the difference between good pain, and bad pain.

This. Definitely.  And once she's been taught about this... review.

I'm an old woman who should know better, and I head out with the thought "meh, it's not that bad - just need to warm up" more often than I should.
Especially on long hilly routes. Or, I'll acknowledge that I might have pushed it too far, and will take the day "off"... with a 40 mile ride. (Sucks, if you realize at mile 30  the pain that kicked in around mile 15-20 was not just a passing cramp.)
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Bill Brasky on September 01, 2009, 12:57:13 AM
I think I'm gonna buy her a pair of numchucks.

Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Riddler on September 02, 2009, 06:48:42 PM
I think I'm gonna buy her a pair of numchucks.




like these?:

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epic fail @ 0:28 here:   nigga almost looks like bruce lee.......


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Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on September 02, 2009, 10:22:02 PM
teach the difference between good pain, and bad pain.

This. Definitely.  And once she's been taught about this... review.

I'm an old woman who should know better, and I head out with the thought "meh, it's not that bad - just need to warm up" more often than I should.
Especially on long hilly routes. Or, I'll acknowledge that I might have pushed it too far, and will take the day "off"... with a 40 mile ride. (Sucks, if you realize at mile 30  the pain that kicked in around mile 15-20 was not just a passing cramp.)

At least you are nit riding a recumbent.  I've gotta get a new seat.  I'm tired of having recumbutt...  that is, you're ass being numb for sitting in the same position for an hour.   but it's beter than the bike crotch rot you get from riding an upright!  LOL 

Diet is starting up again tomorrow...  hoping to get the 2nd 3rd of the goal by halloween, so then I can concentrate on the body for life competition at the beginning of the year.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on September 02, 2009, 10:58:50 PM
At least you are nit riding a recumbent.  I've gotta get a new seat.  I'm tired of having recumbutt...  that is, you're ass being numb for sitting in the same position for an hour.   but it's beter than the bike crotch rot you get from riding an upright!  LOL 

Diet is starting up again tomorrow...  hoping to get the 2nd 3rd of the goal by halloween, so then I can concentrate on the body for life competition at the beginning of the year.

I don't think I could ride one of those comfortably. My butt falls asleep if I sit at my desk for more than 20 mins. at a time.
At least on the road bike and my city bike, I can stand up to pedal for a minute or two, to prevent the numb.

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Good luck on the next phase of your goal. I've had to scale back on racing this fall - not enough free Saturday mornings, but am gearing my training toward  half marathons on Halloween and Thanksgiving. Weight loss/control is not going to be as high on my priority list as staying injury free. I had the bright idea to save money and do the early registration for my first 26.1 mile in March, so will start a marathon training program the last week of November. Which reminds me, I need to pop over to Amazon on the link, and get a couple of books and a training guide/log ordered.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on September 03, 2009, 08:58:33 AM
At least you are nit riding a recumbent.  I've gotta get a new seat.  I'm tired of having recumbutt...  that is, you're ass being numb for sitting in the same position for an hour.   but it's beter than the bike crotch rot you get from riding an upright!  LOL 

Diet is starting up again tomorrow...  hoping to get the 2nd 3rd of the goal by halloween, so then I can concentrate on the body for life competition at the beginning of the year.

I don't think I could ride one of those comfortably. My butt falls asleep if I sit at my desk for more than 20 mins. at a time.
At least on the road bike and my city bike, I can stand up to pedal for a minute or two, to prevent the numb.

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Good luck on the next phase of your goal. I've had to scale back on racing this fall - not enough free Saturday mornings, but am gearing my training toward  half marathons on Halloween and Thanksgiving. Weight loss/control is not going to be as high on my priority list as staying injury free. I had the bright idea to save money and do the early registration for my first 26.1 mile in March, so will start a marathon training program the last week of November. Which reminds me, I need to pop over to Amazon on the link, and get a couple of books and a training guide/log ordered.

Thanks

They say that there is a seat that works better at preventing the numbness, so I have to check it out.  I've got to take advantage of the short recovery time and make enough money so that when the next dip of this double dip recession comes, I'll have some money.  Lucky for me the party season is just about to begin.  Parties!
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: BonerJoe on September 03, 2009, 09:31:50 AM
I worked underneath my car for 4 hours yesterday. I felt like I lost 5lbs.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on September 03, 2009, 01:20:59 PM
teach the difference between good pain, and bad pain.

This. Definitely.  And once she's been taught about this... review.

I'm an old woman who should know better, and I head out with the thought "meh, it's not that bad - just need to warm up" more often than I should.
Especially on long hilly routes. Or, I'll acknowledge that I might have pushed it too far, and will take the day "off"... with a 40 mile ride. (Sucks, if you realize at mile 30  the pain that kicked in around mile 15-20 was not just a passing cramp.)
This again.

I can't run xc anymore because my knees will start to hurt extremely bad after 2 miles.  I used to do 15 mile work outs every wednesday in HS XC and now whenever I try to run more than a couple miles my knees are wrecked.  I switched to mtn biking for that reason. 
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: sillyperson on September 03, 2009, 01:42:55 PM
Mountain biking is still pretty knee-impacting, compared to road biking on a well-adjusted cycle, which is in turn worse on the knees (and back) than a well-adjusted recumbent.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: CaL DaVe on September 03, 2009, 05:34:05 PM
teach the difference between good pain, and bad pain.

This. Definitely.  And once she's been taught about this... review.

I'm an old woman who should know better, and I head out with the thought "meh, it's not that bad - just need to warm up" more often than I should.
Especially on long hilly routes. Or, I'll acknowledge that I might have pushed it too far, and will take the day "off"... with a 40 mile ride. (Sucks, if you realize at mile 30  the pain that kicked in around mile 15-20 was not just a passing cramp.)
This again.

I can't run xc anymore because my knees will start to hurt extremely bad after 2 miles.    

Same here, except I switched to rowing.
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42479000/jpg/_42479255_rowing_416.jpg)


BOW BALL!!!!!
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: miamiballoonguy on September 03, 2009, 06:33:27 PM
Mountain biking is still pretty knee-impacting, compared to road biking on a well-adjusted cycle, which is in turn worse on the knees (and back) than a well-adjusted recumbent.

Recumbutt aside, I have found that riding a recumbent is a lot more fun and ejoyable than an upright.  Gotta love the lumbar support, especially with a surgically repaired back such as mine.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on September 03, 2009, 07:19:29 PM
Mountain biking is still pretty knee-impacting, compared to road biking on a well-adjusted cycle, which is in turn worse on the knees (and back) than a well-adjusted recumbent.
I can take some intense mountain biking and offroad dirt bike riding.  My knees take it no problem.  I just can't do the XC running anymore.  2 Miles and I'm out.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Bill Brasky on September 16, 2009, 04:32:01 AM
teach the difference between good pain, and bad pain.

This. Definitely.  And once she's been taught about this... review.

I'm an old woman who should know better, and I head out with the thought "meh, it's not that bad - just need to warm up" more often than I should.
Especially on long hilly routes. Or, I'll acknowledge that I might have pushed it too far, and will take the day "off"... with a 40 mile ride. (Sucks, if you realize at mile 30  the pain that kicked in around mile 15-20 was not just a passing cramp.)

Racing season has begun. 

Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: CaL DaVe on September 16, 2009, 04:28:52 PM
teach the difference between good pain, and bad pain.

This. Definitely.  And once she's been taught about this... review.

I'm an old woman who should know better, and I head out with the thought "meh, it's not that bad - just need to warm up" more often than I should.
Especially on long hilly routes. Or, I'll acknowledge that I might have pushed it too far, and will take the day "off"... with a 40 mile ride. (Sucks, if you realize at mile 30  the pain that kicked in around mile 15-20 was not just a passing cramp.)

Racing season has begun. 



Are you going to any of the races? X-country is not a spectator sport. So if you do go, take the dog or a book. I remember my parents going one time and they were upset because they could not see the whole race. Only the finish.
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on September 16, 2009, 04:39:59 PM
teach the difference between good pain, and bad pain.

This. Definitely.  And once she's been taught about this... review.

I'm an old woman who should know better, and I head out with the thought "meh, it's not that bad - just need to warm up" more often than I should.
Especially on long hilly routes. Or, I'll acknowledge that I might have pushed it too far, and will take the day "off"... with a 40 mile ride. (Sucks, if you realize at mile 30  the pain that kicked in around mile 15-20 was not just a passing cramp.)

Racing season has begun. 



Are you going to any of the races? X-country is not a spectator sport. So if you do go, take the dog or a book. I remember my parents going one time and they were upset because they could not see the whole race. Only the finish.

We stop & pick up breakfast to picnic while we wait. Works out well - because the extra food we get for the teen gets handed right over at the end of his race. (There's not a lot of the snacks the team brings by the end of the 3rd-5th races.)
Title: Re: Fatness Be Gone
Post by: Laetitia on September 16, 2009, 04:44:49 PM
Have a 10k next week that's sure to be my favorite to date... the teen is going to kick my ass on time, then mock me for being old. Which is actually a lot more fun than it sounds.