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Free Talk Live => General => Topic started by: John Shaw on October 13, 2011, 08:21:25 PM
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Emacs vs. VI
Amiga vs. Atari
Mac vs. PC
Nintendo vs. Sega
Xbox vs. Playstation
Marvel vs. DC
Ford vs. GM
Coke vs. Pepsi
Twilight vs. Potter
Kirk vs. Spock
Let's hear 'em. I wanna see some fanboy/fangirl bullshit.
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iPhone vs Android
Obviously, no real contest here cuz everyone knows Android is better.
Its not even debatable really.
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Smooth vs. Chunky
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Smooth vs. Chunky
(http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp71/quickmike1969_photo/6a00d8341c51c053ef01347fdfcd27970c-450wi.jpg)
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Chocolate vs. Peanut Butter
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Chocolate vs. Peanut Butter
both - in reese's mmmm good..
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5toa4tpicA[/youtube]
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I liked Sega better than Nintendo....
Coors cuz Bud sucks!@
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I liked Sega better than Nintendo....
Coors cuz Bud sucks!@
While we're on the subject, what do Coors, Bud and sex in a canoe all have in common?
They're all fucking close to water.
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I liked Sega better than Nintendo....
Coors cuz Bud sucks!@
While we're on the subject, what do Coors, Bud and sex in a canoe all have in common?
They're all fucking close to water.
Hehehe, but hey, regular Coors and Budweiser aren't too bad, it's just that everyone drinks the LIGHT crap.
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For you, John.
Ruger vs. Smith and Wesson
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Star Wars vs. Star Trek
Args, I dislike Star Wars because it's crappy Space Opera (also why I love it), but I dislike Star Trek because of the Commie theme (but I love it because it is more intellectual and intelligent). I think I am on the Trekkie side of this debate.
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Ruger vs. Smith and Wesson
Love 'em both, of course.
I mean hell, with the Ruger, if you run out of ammo you can beat them to death with it.
And if there were no S&W I wouldn't have... Like seven or eight guns that I use and love.
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I liked Sega better than Nintendo....
Coors cuz Bud sucks!@
While we're on the subject, what do Coors, Bud and sex in a canoe all have in common?
They're all fucking close to water.
Hehehe, but hey, regular Coors and Budweiser aren't too bad, it's just that everyone drinks the LIGHT crap.
yea, and when I'm drinking a 30 pack, I can't afford the other stuff except Miller...I won't drink Busch-
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natural breasts vs. silicone fakes.
I'd rather see small ones than implants.
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zippos vs bics - for smokes I'll take the zippo - for the pipe gimme a bic.
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natural breasts vs. silicone fakes.
I from the school of "All tits are real on the outside."
S'not like I'm in the habit of looking at the inside of boobs, so what should I care?
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(http://www.therealstevegray.com/wp-content/uploads/504x_tom-baker1.jpg)
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(http://www.therealstevegray.com/wp-content/uploads/504x_tom-baker1.jpg)
The rest were hacks.......... all of em.
He was the only real doctor.
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natural breasts vs. silicone fakes.
I from the school of "All tits are real on the outside."
S'not like I'm in the habit of looking at the inside of boobs, so what should I care?
It was several years ago ( I haven't had the experience lately ) that the skin seemed to be stretched very tight with those fake ones. Didn't feel remotely like I expected them to feel. The way they feel is more important to me than how they look.
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If you take a pretty nice tit, and put a pretty nice fake tit under it, you make a pretty nice fake tit.
Rarely does that happen.
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Star Wars vs. Star Trek
Args, I dislike Star Wars because it's crappy Space Opera (also why I love it), but I dislike Star Trek because of the Commie theme (but I love it because it is more intellectual and intelligent). I think I am on the Trekkie side of this debate.
Thats why I like Babylon 5. It combines the best of both Star Wars & Star Trek... 8)
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For you, John.
Ruger vs. Smith and Wesson
Colt.
natural breasts vs. silicone fakes.
I'd rather see small ones than implants.
Ones that go well with the girls body type.
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Star Wars vs. Star Trek
Args, I dislike Star Wars because it's crappy Space Opera (also why I love it), but I dislike Star Trek because of the Commie theme (but I love it because it is more intellectual and intelligent). I think I am on the Trekkie side of this debate.
Thats why I like Babylon 5. It combines the best of both Star Wars & Star Trek... 8)
ever see lexx or farscape?
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Colt.
Yeah notta one. Their revolvers look like cartoon 1890's pieces of cowboy shit.
I've thought about getting one of their slide pistols, but never got around to it.
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Glock is the only way to go for me. Although I did hold a Springfield XDm in my hands that felt pretty good the other day. Didn't get to make it go bang though.
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Star Wars vs. Star Trek
Args, I dislike Star Wars because it's crappy Space Opera (also why I love it), but I dislike Star Trek because of the Commie theme (but I love it because it is more intellectual and intelligent). I think I am on the Trekkie side of this debate.
Thats why I like Babylon 5. It combines the best of both Star Wars & Star Trek... 8)
ever see lexx or farscape?
No, but I do have Farscape in my Netflix instant queue. I'll get around to watching it eventually...
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Colt.
Yeah notta one. Their revolvers look like cartoon 1890's pieces of cowboy shit.
I've thought about getting one of their slide pistols, but never got around to it.
The Desert Eagle is a mighty fine cock extender, but I like the accuracy and reliability of a good single action revolver.
The Kalashnikov AK-47 is the only assault rifle I would lay money down on (Commies got that one right).
Remington lever action is the only rifle I am comfortable with for presice target shooting.
In other news while we are a bitchen and a fighten, I finally got someone ignoring me. I think this is odd since I am such a fucking saint, probably one of the chicks.
I genuinely an not sure how I feel about being ignored. Isn't having someone ignore you almost a badge of honer on this trollville of a BBS?
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The Desert Eagle is a mighty fine cock extender, but I like the accuracy and reliability of a good single action revolver.
I owned one. Later gen with the .357 barrel, the .44 mag barrel, and the .50ae of course. Not as reliable a gun as you'd expect. Sold it. Besides, my 460v scares more shit out of people than one of those.
The Kalashnikov AK-47 is the only assault rifle I would lay money down on (Commies got that one right).
I own a bunch and love 'em. However, there is a reason they call the FN-FAL "The right arm of the free world" I have an FN-FAL tricked out basically into a sniper rifle because I had the money at the time and thought it'd be hilarious. Got a custom barrel and had it frozen and the whole shebang.
Also M-14's of various flavors.
7.62x51/.308 is better than 7.62x39 if you don't mind the weight.
Remington lever action is the only rifle I am comfortable with for presice target shooting.
Yeah I've got a Remington 700 bolt that's about as precise as you can get. There's a reason the 700 is used as the base for the M24 sniper system. Then again my Sako TRG21 is WAY better than any other rifle I own for accuracy.
In other news while we are a bitchen and a fighten, I finally got someone ignoring me. I think this is odd since I am such a fucking saint, probably one of the chicks.
I genuinely an not sure how I feel about being ignored. Isn't having someone ignore you almost a badge of honer on this trollville of a BBS?
No one ignores me. Ever. :-P
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damn, John - you know alot of shit about guns dude!
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damn, John - you know alot of shit about guns dude!
I have three hobbies.
1. Video games
2. Guns
3. Collecting movie shit
Guns are on the back burner when money is tighter and come to the forefront when we're more liquid. Right now the wife is making 90k a year so we've started visiting the gun shops again.
I be digging the Kel Tec KSG (Pump action shot gun with two tubes! 14 rounds!) but I think the next gun I buy will be the RFB target version. That thing looks pimp, drops brass in one place, and uses FAL mags. Fucking. Awesome.
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Kel Tec with 14 rounds does sound awesome.
other one drops brass in same place? how?
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other one drops brass in same place? how?
Forward facing ejection tube. Watch.
[youtube]t9Xqa2vwq60[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9Xqa2vwq60
It is also a bullpup, obviously, and is ambidextrous in every other way. (Safety levers etc.)
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damn! I can see why you'd want one - looks like it kicks like a mule. I guess it can take the heat even when fully automatic?
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I guess it can take the heat even when fully automatic?
No full auto. Semiauto only. It's definitely designed to handle you pulling the trigger as fast as you can, though.
And of course it shoots .308, so aiming + shooting will do a hell of a lot more damage than spraying.
Bonus Smartass comment: "The reason .223 assault rifles are capable of three round bursts and .308's don't as often is because it takes three .223's to do the same damage as a .308"
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so, its legal and I guess the short length helps explain the recoil. Now I'm wanting one of em too!
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I guess it can take the heat even when fully automatic?
No full auto. Semiauto only. It's definitely designed to handle you pulling the trigger as fast as you can, though.
And of course it shoots .308, so aiming + shooting will do a hell of a lot more damage than spraying.
Bonus Smartass comment: "The reason .223 assault rifles are capable of three round bursts and .308's don't as often is because it takes three .223's to do the same damage as a .308"
didn't know.308's were so effn powerful! I don't know much about ammo, but my neighbor has a 300 magnum that shoots damn hard!
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didn't know.308's were so effn powerful! I don't know much about ammo, but my neighbor has a 300 magnum that shoots damn hard!
.308 is sorta a baseline standard that other 30 cal rounds are measured by. (Well, that and the 30.06)
Obviously there are a shitpile of specialty rounds like the 300 Win/Mag, .338 Lapua etc that can do more, but if you go to a 600 yard high power rifle competition (No scope mind you) everyone is using .308.
I, personally, can get a consistent 7-8 inch grouping without a scope at 600 yards using a Remington 700, and while I'm pretty good, I'm not a regular competitive shooter anymore. (Been three years or so.)
With a scope and knowing what you're doing, I can get the same groups at 850 yards with no problem, and 900 on a good day. At 900 though you're facing too many wind/drop/energy loss variables to be sure every time. the 7.62x51 has less power so not quite as good.
Basically what I'm saying is - I'd rather be great at a round like .308/7.62x51 than only good at a .338 Lapua or .300 Win Mag because I can't afford to shoot the things nearly as often.
Also, emergency situations require not the best, but the most commonly used goods.
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didn't know.308's were so effn powerful! I don't know much about ammo, but my neighbor has a 300 magnum that shoots damn hard!
.308 is sorta a baseline standard that other 30 cal rounds are measured by. (Well, that and the 30.06)
Obviously there are a shitpile of specialty rounds like the 300 Win/Mag, .338 Lapua etc that can do more, but if you go to a 600 yard high power rifle competition (No scope mind you) everyone is using .308.
I, personally, can get a consistent 7-8 inch grouping without a scope at 600 yards using a Remington 700, and while I'm pretty good, I'm not a regular competitive shooter anymore. (Been three years or so.)
With a scope and knowing what you're doing, I can get the same groups at 850 yards with no problem, and 900 on a good day. At 900 though you're facing too many wind/drop/energy loss variables to be sure every time. the 7.62x51 has less power so not quite as good.
Basically what I'm saying is - I'd rather be great at a round like .308/7.62x51 than only good at a .338 Lapua or .300 Win Mag because I can't afford to shoot the things nearly as often.
Also, emergency situations require not the best, but the most commonly used goods.
Sorry, I gotta go with 7.62x54R baby.
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Would you shoot machine gun .308 ammo through your Sako in a pinch, though?
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Would you shoot machine gun .308 ammo through your Sako in a pinch, though?
Non corrosive? Sure. It's the other way around that would suck. I made damned sure I knew beforehand that it'd be cool, of course. twenty five hundred dollar guns aren't for fucking up.
.308 does (About) 62,000 psi.
7.62x51 (Military version) does about 60,000 psi.
So pressure issues and gun damage would generally only come from shooting the consumer round in a gun that can only handle military grade rounds. The .308 shell casing is also thinner toward the rim because the gun is expected to be sturdier. The Nato round has really thick brass up front.
The military rounds are weaksauce compared to the consumer rounds.
All the guns I own are rated for .308 anyway, so I shoot whatever and rarely worry about it.
So yeah, absolutely. I never use corrosive ammo because I'm cheap but not THAT cheap, but milsurp is fine, if slightly weaker.
I have a shitpile of Malaysian Nato sitting around. Bought a whole palate of it several years ago. All 1985 and 1987 manufactured, sealed in PVC. Hell, I'm still shooting Nato crap from 1979. Never have problems.
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Sorry, I gotta go with 7.62x54R baby.
It's cheap and plentiful, and shoots similarly to 30.06.
Can't reload but it's so cheap most of the time who cares? Used to be able to get 200 rounds of it for free with a $75 Mosin.
I pay around $90 for 200 rounds of Nato milsurp alone, and I don't even get the gun.
<<<Has no beef with it.
Well... Apart from only two guns in the world using the shit*, pretty much. I mean, I've got M-14's, an AR-10, the FN-FAL, the Remington 700, and the Sako, they all shoot .308 and are all very different guns with their own strengths and weaknesses.
*A wild exaggeration but you know, Dragunov and Mosin yo.