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AL the Inconspicuous

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Re: Drop the term Capitalism
« Reply #45 on: November 27, 2009, 11:31:01 AM »

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Re: Drop the term Capitalism
« Reply #46 on: November 27, 2009, 01:28:48 PM »

I've definitely had much more success communicating my ideas with people since I dropped the label "anarcho-capitalist" and switched to "voluntarist".  Even "agorist" seems to work better (people don't know what the hell that means, but at least they don't have any pre-conceived notions about what it means that I have to fight).

Just sayin'
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Re: Drop the term Capitalism
« Reply #47 on: November 27, 2009, 02:47:49 PM »

Pandering to people is so 2007...

After Ron Paul came fucking 5th in New-fucking-Hampshire, it should have been perfectly clear that most people simply don't want to live free and rational lives, they just want to run with the herd and moo.

You can't change those people, you have to separate yourself from them and prove the superiority of your ideas yet by example.

Do the right thing - no matter the consequences.
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Re: Drop the term Capitalism
« Reply #48 on: November 27, 2009, 03:22:31 PM »

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You can't change those people, you have to separate yourself from them and prove the superiority of your ideas yet by example.

I wasn't born believing what I believe now.  My mind changed, so clearly the minds of some people CAN change.  I was your average "smallish" government chickenhawk republican.  But I was able to change my mind.  I can't say for sure, but I bet that back in those days, using the word "anarchism" to describe ones political beliefs would have been a stumbling block to convincing me.

I definitely agree that the best way to convince people of the superiority of one's ideas is through example.  But that doesn't mean that there is no room for discussion.
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Re: Drop the term Capitalism
« Reply #49 on: November 27, 2009, 03:28:38 PM »

[...]  But I was able to change my mind.  [...]

Did you have someone pander to you in order to change your mind, or did you RTFM and figure things out for yourself?
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Re: Drop the term Capitalism
« Reply #50 on: November 27, 2009, 06:24:39 PM »

This is the no hijack zone right? Or do you mean "This is the FTL BBS fool, if you didn't want to swim in a cesspool why did you jump in?"

LOL, you'll never get it.
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Re: Drop the term Capitalism
« Reply #51 on: November 29, 2009, 11:33:16 AM »

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You can't change those people, you have to separate yourself from them and prove the superiority of your ideas yet by example.

I wasn't born believing what I believe now.  My mind changed, so clearly the minds of some people CAN change.

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while(value(!BEING_LIBERTARIAN)>value(LIBERTARIANISM)) {    /* antipathy! */
    wastetimeof(LIBERTARIAN);
    feel(SMUG);
    if(FALSE) { /* only happens in theory */
        acceptpremises();
        reconsider();
        changemind();
        break;
        }
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AL the Inconspicuous

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Re: Drop the term Capitalism
« Reply #52 on: November 29, 2009, 11:49:09 AM »

Um, if you claim that the supposed constant named FALSE can evaluate to truth "in theory", that means we're dealing with hostile code here and cannot trust the actual functionality of the objects to match what is implied by their identifiers.  In other words, this could mean anything, and some compilers might even allow the keywords to be overwritten with macros!  But most illogical of all is the placement of the curly braces - you make me sick!  :lol:

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Re: Drop the term Capitalism
« Reply #53 on: November 30, 2009, 12:25:22 AM »

Um, if you claim that the supposed constant named FALSE can evaluate to truth "in theory", that means we're dealing with hostile code here and cannot trust the actual functionality of the objects to match what is implied by their identifiers.  In other words, this could mean anything, and some compilers might even allow the keywords to be overwritten with macros!  But most illogical of all is the placement of the curly braces - you make me sick!  :lol:
I'm saying the theory is that talking to them will change their mind, but it's not that simple. Many people don't want to be right as much as they want to not admit that they have been wrong, and unless you're focusing on people where that's not the case, you'll never get to the part where they change their mind :P
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AL the Inconspicuous

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Re: Drop the term Capitalism
« Reply #54 on: November 30, 2009, 12:29:10 AM »

A good optimizing compiler wouldn't even include that code in the final executable...  :shock:
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Re: Drop the term Capitalism
« Reply #55 on: November 30, 2009, 12:37:29 AM »

A good optimizing compiler wouldn't even include that code in the final executable...  :shock:
Exactly as intended :D
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Re: Drop the term Capitalism
« Reply #56 on: November 30, 2009, 08:40:45 AM »

Nothing new here, folks.
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AL the Inconspicuous

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Re: Drop the term Capitalism
« Reply #57 on: November 30, 2009, 10:33:55 AM »

Well, I could still nitpick on why the value() function takes a boolean the first time it is called.  :lol:
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Re: Drop the term Capitalism
« Reply #58 on: November 30, 2009, 12:06:08 PM »

Well, I could still nitpick on why the value() function takes a boolean the first time it is called.  :lol:

You're a balloonian.
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Re: Drop the term Capitalism
« Reply #59 on: November 30, 2009, 01:02:27 PM »

Well, I could still nitpick on why the value() function takes a boolean the first time it is called.  :lol:

That's pretty much the first chunk of C I've written that wasn't a hello world variant so I expected to make mistakes :P
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