Unofficial History of Drama in the Free State

[sillyperson]

The HSLDA rating is pretty stupid -- they're not rating it based on the actual laws in the state, but rather based on the fact that we had to fight to get a bunch of bad bills killed. Well, hello, we've been doing that forever, it's just that HSLDA is now getting all the bad news direct from the organizations that are coming up to oppose those bills.

By this token the NRA should call NH a danger zone because some jackball put up a bill restricting firearms freedom. Doesn't matter that it died by a landslide.

[ForumTroll]

The HSLDA rating is pretty stupid -- they're not rating it based on the actual laws in the state, but rather based on the fact that we had to fight to get a bunch of bad bills killed. Well, hello, we've been doing that forever, it's just that HSLDA is now getting all the bad news direct from the organizations that are coming up to oppose those bills.

I think it realistically means that it will eventually pass, since the legislature continues to get more socialist.

[blackie]

The HSLDA rating is pretty stupid -- they're not rating it based on the actual laws in the state, but rather based on the fact that we had to fight to get a bunch of bad bills killed.

The HSLDA ratings are pretty good/accurate.

Well, hello, we've been doing that forever

Not really. It didn't start until "Dawn's bill" brought the homeschool issue to the attention of the bureaucrats.

I wouldn't be surprised if all the open carry protests do the same thing to gun laws in NH. Most people in NH don't realize open carry is legal. The open carry events just remind some people that "there should be a law".

[Dylboz]

I wouldn't be surprised if all the open carry protests do the same thing to gun laws in NH. Most people in NH don't realize open carry is legal. The open carry events just remind some people that "there should be a law".

In Arizona, Open Carry does no such thing. Everyone is used to it, and no one cares. The cops will not be called, and if they are, they will not come, because the caller will be reminded that it is legal, and no crime is being committed. The most you'll ever get from a cop is a question about what sort of gun you have, which is out of curiosity and enthusiasm for firearms. The same will come from the serves and clerks with whom you deal, again, if they say anything at all. I have been sitting in a restaurant with a pistol on my hip when cops enter, and they took notice, and moved on, not saying a word. When New Hampshire-ites are similarly accustomed to the presence of completely legal openly carried firearms, a similar status quo will prevail.

[sillyperson]

The OC litter pickups are pretty damn good.
The OC smoking dope at 4:20, of course, is not.

Also, I suspect the legislature is going to be more libertarian, not more socialist, going forward. That, after all, is the mission of the NHLA, RLC-NH, and of the Freedom Democrats.

[blackie]

Not sure what this drama is about.

http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=20999.0

Visited Grafton Last night and I feel like I need to vent...
Sometimes I chafe at the comments that my self or my husband can not be appreciated because I'm not sure, why.. we take a different independent path and have to find our own ways to solve a problem. Our activism is not your activism? Or what ever we do has to be run down?

Do I care? yes, disappointed. Tried to be friendly... and have been honest and independent in my dealings. So what is the problem? Too much small town intolerance like  seventh graders that gossip and try to appoint themselves as arbiters of what is. Watch out for this, to any free thinking individuals that might come to Grafton. There is a seventh grade here that can be socially confining especially if you come to live in an outback place like Grafton.
 Too ironic.

I do not see any reason Lloyd not be social. I just am trying to handle frustration about what appears to be human/ group social behavior which I believe finds occasional expression by a  surprising number of individuals despite their individualistic freedom philosophies. The philosophies such as the NAP I think most of us embrace is where I believe  for me is what God resides. We are just human so I do not wish to make any one have to feel they have to be careful, fake or diplomatic. I just hate to run down the ways of individuals or witness others running down others; exception is the defense of others as needed when one notes a rip off of property or others being hurt. Yes I do find myself listening or being part of gossip but I am hating it more. The individual being gossiped about will usually have to overcome an unfair disadvantage if in a future situation of needing cooperation or understanding. This is vague and a poorly defined situation but I think one knows this dynamic is going on when it happens but will avoid comments for fear of offending, being seen as paranoid or worse a cry baby.
I trust you all for feeling comfortable to express yourself, just an observation that I need to test for myself to see if I am any where in reality.

I truly appreciate your hospitality and I want to continue to visit, if it is not too much.

Yes, I have referred myself to Porc Therapy and need to proofread. I feared if I had proofread my original comment, I would have lost the nerve to post it which would have been better.

Thanks for all of your input, I am stirring up some shit here. 

Just got frustrated that article works like Bill's who does well researched articles on Lew Rockwell  is not getting any promotion by this Liberty radio without me begging and then still have to take shit about it over a period of time. I am frustrated that between all the social stuff  the liberty radio powers now do not appear to check out the Lewrockwell site and note very recent articles by Stephanie Murphy and Bill Walker. 

I respect the stance of the non political ones and understand this conclusion. Note the neo con hijacking of Grafton libertarian political efforts addressing  issues from out of town (WAR). Disgust at seeing Libertarians holding Mc Cain Palin signs etc. just to get a "winning" position. Your are right to be against politics in this instance but how would voting for local liberty people be wrong as a self defense to escalating local infringements? Why not vote NO to the bonds for periodic increases in property taxes which serve plantation style schools?

Kat your right that I am getting cummulatively fed up about getting shit for having different view points. SQUABBLE, Hell Russsel/ Rich and others gives me shit (is this pressure to conform?) about liking music such as Shuberts, Ave Maria. Or being made out to be drunk (female) drinking while all the guys are out drinking me 10-1.
I get boisterous and rebellious but nothing here to keep me from visiting and giving a little back.

[anarchir]

I have no clue what they were trying to say.

[Cognitive Dissident]

Must be fallout over the idiocy behind the campfire fascism that occurred several weeks ago.  Imagine liberty lovers not liking it when another supposed liberty lover comes down on them with the full force of the state for what they do on their own property...of course this is primarily based on the context of who's complaining.

[sillyperson]

I had no idea WTF the thread was about till I saw Kat's post:

My guess was she was taking shit about doing politics from the anarchists.

That's a misnomer of course since I know at least 2 anarchists that are running for State Rep in Grafton, I assume she means "from the outside-the-system folks"

Yep, that's the intolerance of the outside-the-system folks, the ones who chase off the people who should be their best allies.

[Cognitive Dissident]

I had no idea WTF the thread was about till I saw Kat's post:

My guess was she was taking shit about doing politics from the anarchists.

That's a misnomer of course since I know at least 2 anarchists that are running for State Rep in Grafton, I assume she means "from the outside-the-system folks"

Yep, that's the intolerance of the outside-the-system folks, the ones who chase off the people who should be their best allies.

...or response to fascists pretending to be liberty lovers...

[voodoo]

http://www.livefreeandcomply.org/2010/07/04/local-blogger-punished-with-4-million-assessment/

Sounds like a lovely place:

This is not the first occurrence of this problem. Selectman Willie Farnum, prior to a public meeting, openly described his policy for dealing with the few hundred privacy minded families who did not give their permission for the tax assessor to enter their homes during last year’s re-assessment: evaluate the interior of their homes at the highest level possible (assume the interior of an old Tamworth farm house is encrusted with granite countertops and $800 faucets, for example), and residents will come to the Selectmen begging to have the assessor in their home when they see their tax bill. This policy could account for the first million dollars of my assessment, but John Roberts’ motion, seconded by Farnum, to increase my assessment to four million dollars is clearly a perpetuation of their objection to folks speaking out against them that started with former Selectman Tom Abugelis’ public flogging for a letter-to-the-editor criticizing the mentality of town government. I can’t imagine the Selectmen will fess up to their assessment being a punitive measure, but a four million dollar price tag on an unfinished single-family home and a 36′x36′ barn speaks for itself.

[ForumTroll]

http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=21010.msg324559

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Mr. Barnes invited myself and a few others  to a secret meeting a few months ago. At the meeting it was disclosed that we were invited to join this group to take over the government through non violent coup. To join we had to be fingerprinted. I declined.

About this Ridley Report: 
The young man  no matter what his associations are should not be mistreated, shame  if what he says is true.
Mr Barnes if you want people to not fear, do not invite them to secret meetings to seek their fingerprints.   

[freeAgent]

Oooook then.

[sillyperson]

Needs a link on this thread. Big Drama.
http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=3502

[anarchir]

Needs a link on this thread. Big Drama.
http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=3502

Already been discussed on another thread.