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BonerJoe

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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #2220 on: September 30, 2009, 11:50:10 AM »

but ethnicity is also a social construct.  It has as much validity as race. 

Nigger.
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« Reply #2221 on: September 30, 2009, 12:19:23 PM »

but ethnicity is also a social construct.  It has as much validity as race. 

Yes, but it has important uses.  The term races was applied to humans for destructive purposes.  Ethnicity, on the other hand, may be based on scientific evidence and wasn't meant mostly to cause harm to others, as race was.  It may also be helpful when treating people with diseases or health conditions, for example.  Davann seems to be highly confused about what race is.  However, some of the good things he seems to connect to race, are much better connected to ethnicity. 
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« Reply #2222 on: September 30, 2009, 12:30:33 PM »

1. (noun) ethnicity
an ethnic quality or affiliation resulting from racial or cultural ties

Same fuckin difference so who the fuck cares? You white caucasian trailer trash cracker.

This isn't sensitivity training and I don't feel any harm when using race which has the same fuckin meaning as ethnicity.
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« Reply #2223 on: September 30, 2009, 12:36:11 PM »

So I guess there is no such thing as a racist.
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« Reply #2224 on: September 30, 2009, 12:38:10 PM »

So I guess there is no such thing as a racist.

selective sociopath?
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« Reply #2225 on: September 30, 2009, 01:13:56 PM »

but ethnicity is also a social construct.  It has as much validity as race. 
  Davann seems to be highly confused about what race is.  However, some of the good things he seems to connect to race, are much better connected to ethnicity. 

You say "garage", I say "car hole".

Ethnicity and race are interchangeable in my non PC vernacular.
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« Reply #2226 on: September 30, 2009, 01:25:19 PM »

Good god, I am in the Libertarianism and Racism thread or the drama thread? Lighten up, people!
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« Reply #2227 on: September 30, 2009, 01:56:56 PM »

[quote author=Hideaki link=topic=20199.msg567384#msg567384
This isn't sensitivity training and I don't feel any harm when using race which has the same fuckin meaning as ethnicity.
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Feel free to consider a useful term the same as a term of hatred if you want.  One of the terms is based on science, and the other is nonsense when applied to humans.
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #2228 on: September 30, 2009, 02:14:50 PM »

Quote from: Hideaki link=topic=20199.msg567384#msg567384

This isn't sensitivity training and I don't feel any harm when using race which has the same fuckin meaning as ethnicity.

Feel free to consider a useful term the same as a term of hatred if you want.  One of the terms is based on science, and the other is nonsense when applied to humans.


Race and ethnicity both represent social or cultural constructs for categorizing people based on perceived differences
in physical appearance and behavior. They are primarily social rather than biological phenomena.

I don't see what the big deal is or what's so hard to understand. They are one in the same just labels period. If the
intent for race had hatred behind it I don't see how it was very effective.

If you had to fill a form for the doctor whats the difference if it asked for race or ethnicity? Did anything change?
Can you feel the hate? Sticks and stones....
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« Reply #2229 on: September 30, 2009, 02:27:50 PM »

If you had to fill a form for the doctor whats the difference if it asked for race or ethnicity? Did anything change?
Can you feel the hate? Sticks and stones....

Race isn't based on science as there are not human races, according to science.
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #2230 on: September 30, 2009, 02:44:48 PM »

If you had to fill a form for the doctor whats the difference if it asked for race or ethnicity? Did anything change?
Can you feel the hate? Sticks and stones....

Race isn't based on science as there are not human races, according to science.


so what? what does science have to do with social constructs?
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« Reply #2231 on: September 30, 2009, 02:46:07 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(classification_of_human_beings)

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According to forensic anthropologist George W. Gill, "race denial" not only contradicts biological evidence, but may stem from "politically motivated censorship" in the belief that "race promotes racism".
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« Reply #2232 on: September 30, 2009, 03:16:04 PM »

so what? what does science have to do with social constructs?

People tried to put science behind race to make it seem more legitimate.  That way more harm could be done and based on race.
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #2233 on: September 30, 2009, 03:51:22 PM »

so what? what does science have to do with social constructs?

People tried to put science behind race to make it seem more legitimate.  That way more harm could be done and based on race.

A lot of harm was done based on religion (oh look another label with categories) and I'm pretty sure they don't put science behind it.
Race is not a word of hatred in todays society just like enthnicity or cultural background. Maybe in the past it was used to try and say
one person is the "superior" race but it could have been changed to use "superior" ethnic group as well. Actually if as you claim ethnicity
is based off of science while race isn't then they should have just used that term and save whoever tried to adopt the word out of hatred
a lot of trouble.
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #2234 on: September 30, 2009, 05:32:49 PM »

Just in case anyone wants to be updated with the latest information:


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Source: EllisCountyPress.com


Warrants re-called on former new editor

MEGAN GRAY
The Ellis County Press

DALLAS COUNTY – Former Ellis County Press news editor, Joey Dauben, arrested Monday, Sept. 14 at his home in Plymouth, NH  for allegedly posting internal information from a police computer he received via an anonymous e-mail for his blog , could be seeing home again very soon.

                “Dallas County has recalled Dauben’s  warrants  for engaging in organized criminal activity, obstruction or retaliation and misuse of official information,” said defense attorney Rodney Ramsey.

                The intake division rejected all warrants for his arrests last Friday, Sept. 18

                Dauben, 28, publisher of  the Ellis County Observer blog, was released from the Grafton County Jail in North Havervill, NH this afternoon.

                Michael Meissner, former police chief in Bardwell, has been released from Lew Sterrett in Dallas and dropped of all charges in connection with Dauben.

                According to the warrants division in Tarrant County, warrants for Meissner haven't been issued since 2005 despite the three released to the media by Combine Police Department in relation to child pornography.

http://www.elliscountypress.com

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