Unofficial History of Drama in the Free State

[fatcat]

Maybe if it involves body bags.

[BonerJoe]

FUCK IM SUPPOSED TO BE DOING PRODUCTIVE THINGS

[blackie]

Maybe Bill wasn't arrested. It sounds like the grandparents got the kid, with the help of the police.

[ny2nh]

And Bill is going to try and intervene? Good luck with that. The best thing for that kid is to be away from all this crap....

[NHArticleTen]

And Bill is going to try and intervene? Good luck with that. The best thing for that kid is to be away from all this crap....

what if grandpa's a pedophile fudge-packer...

what then Tamster...

I didn't know you knew grandma and grandpa Ivy so well as to speak on their behalf...

hmmm....

[John Shaw]

And Bill is going to try and intervene? Good luck with that. The best thing for that kid is to be away from all this crap....

what if grandpa's a pedophile fudge-packer...

what then Tamster...

I didn't know you knew grandma and grandpa Ivy so well as to speak on their behalf...

hmmm....

Apparently you know them well enough to think that they're kiddie fuckers, huh?

Goes both ways.

[ny2nh]

And Bill is going to try and intervene? Good luck with that. The best thing for that kid is to be away from all this crap....

what if grandpa's a pedophile fudge-packer...

what then Tamster...

I didn't know you knew grandma and grandpa Ivy so well as to speak on their behalf...

hmmm....

Then why has Ivy left him there before? If he's some evil dude, I'm sure Ivy would have written about it online - she writes about everything else online. And if he's some evil dude, then why ever leave Peter there? Seriously.

[NHArticleTen]

And Bill is going to try and intervene? Good luck with that. The best thing for that kid is to be away from all this crap....

what if grandpa's a pedophile fudge-packer...

what then Tamster...

I didn't know you knew grandma and grandpa Ivy so well as to speak on their behalf...

hmmm....

Then why has Ivy left him there before? If he's some evil dude, I'm sure Ivy would have written about it online - she writes about everything else online. And if he's some evil dude, then why ever leave Peter there? Seriously.

what if she "just" found out?

I don't propose to "know" one way or the other...

I'm just asking how you PERSONALLY know them well enough to vouch for them PERSONALLY...

and if you're not willing to do that...then HOW can you state that anyone would be better off one place...than another...

[ny2nh]

what if she "just" found out?

I don't propose to "know" one way or the other...

I'm just asking how you PERSONALLY know them well enough to vouch for them PERSONALLY...

and if you're not willing to do that...then HOW can you state that anyone would be better off one place...than another...

Based on what I do know and what I'll have to guess on - I still think Peter is better off in RI with his grandparents. He doesn't need to be part of this train wreck. Seriously.

[Njal]

And Bill is going to try and intervene? Good luck with that. The best thing for that kid is to be away from all this crap....

what if grandpa's a pedophile fudge-packer...

what then Tamster...

I didn't know you knew grandma and grandpa Ivy so well as to speak on their behalf...

hmmm....

Then why has Ivy left him there before? If he's some evil dude, I'm sure Ivy would have written about it online - she writes about everything else online. And if he's some evil dude, then why ever leave Peter there? Seriously.

what if she "just" found out?

I don't propose to "know" one way or the other...

I'm just asking how you PERSONALLY know them well enough to vouch for them PERSONALLY...

and if you're not willing to do that...then HOW can you state that anyone would be better off one place...than another...

[Coconut]

I knew I was being played from day 1.

My desire for attention was stronger than my logical mind.

Ivy's asked that I never talk to her again. So be it.

[Soundwave]

Wow, she played you and then asked you not to talk to her again? If that went down as I'm picturing it in my head, she just went down several notches in my book, not that she was very high to begin with. I tend to have pretty good character judgment skills and I have always gotten a very bad "vibe" so to speak from her. I know a manipulator when I see one. That said, I would never say anything to you about such matters, because those are lessons I think you just have to learn yourself.

I can not believe that Bill has the audacity to pretend like he didn't know this was coming, or that Ivy wasn't the instigator in this situation.

Nick, I think you are awesome, and Ivy is way way way too trashy and low for you. If I wasn't taken, I'd hit it. Seriously!  

[BonerJoe]

If I wasn't taken, I'd hit it. Seriously! 

HEY IM SINGLE

[blackie]

Bill and Ivy make a good couple.

[Bill Brasky]

Love how you keep editing your posts to soften them after I've responded, Fatcat.

I edit the majority of my posts after the fact when I think of more shit to say, its not some conspiracy to make you look like an asshole.

I stand by my point that the kind of common ideas of leopard can't change its spots, once a [blank] always a [blank], are ostensibly illustrative, but fundamentally unhelpful and empty.

I can see that it looks like I'm misrepresenting your point, what you said was more complex and subtle than how i responded, but my intention was to rail against the common sense idea that people don't really change and that a few actions can be used to define an entire person.

I'm not just talking about cheating here, the same kind of belief is common place around criminals, liars, and pretty much any kind of infraction.

 I certainly don't write in a way that is endearing to friendly banter, but I don't see why you have to get so hostile with all the name calling shit, although your generally level headed so I guess I'm probably being more of an asshole than I'm aware of.

The people who have behaviors (whatever they may be) and suddenly turn a 180* are the exception to the rule.  Most people do what they do and keep on doin' it.  The ones who change are usually impacted by some kind of life-changing event that completely alters their perceptions - like a born-again, with or without the god part.