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Bill Brasky

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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #705 on: April 27, 2009, 12:48:25 AM »


Make her wait in the car. 
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JWI

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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #706 on: April 27, 2009, 12:54:13 AM »


Make her wait in the car. 

Actually...If I could get one of those outfits and have my wife wear it that'd be better.
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #707 on: April 27, 2009, 02:37:39 AM »

and a Tilted Kilt

http://www.tiltedkilt.com/index.html



:shock:  one of those just opened up in stevens point.  I had NO idea that's what the waitress uniforms looked like.

I went to one in Madison during the winter.  I was amazed those broads weren't freezing.

Ok I frequently visit both those places, how have I never even heard of this? I'm gonna have to talk my GF into going  :lol:

Make sure you go to one in a college town.  The broads are juicier.

Madison.  Osh-Kosh.  Point.

check.  check.  and check.
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« Reply #708 on: April 28, 2009, 02:42:18 PM »

lol

http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=17641.msg211718#msg211718
Jason Sorens:
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Actually, I think that was the "savegrafton" blog. If she wanted a real far-right-winger, she should have spoken to that guy: a Holocaust denier who was upset most about the fact that most of us favor legalizing prostitution, who used racial terminology as an insult on this very forum.

I would respond and ask for evidence of those accusations, but I was banned.
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #709 on: April 28, 2009, 02:44:00 PM »

Letter sent out in the town Mark lives in:

http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=17641.msg211890#msg211890
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April 27, 2009
 
Dear Fellow Westmorelanders:
 
Leaders of the Free State Project movement have now bought homes and property in Westmoreland.
 
While my wife and I believe that tolerance for divergi ng views is a hallmark of a robust democracy, we also believe it is necessary to have a comprehensive understanding of those who say their objective is to “take over” state and local government in New Hampshire.
 
The town of Grafton, New Hampshire did not have an adequate plan in 2004 for dealing with the Free Staters.  Grafton’s status today is as follows:
 
17 properties are now owned by Free Staters;
The Free Staters put a warrant article on the ballot to kill the Planning Board;
One Free Stater, whom they say has been expelled, set up a web site targeting
  specific townspeople standing in their way to a takeover;
The Free Staters initiated the Grafton Gazette newspaper to promote
    their agenda and silence the opposition;
A large gathering of anarchists from around the country were invited to Grafton
  in 2008.  See this website for details: http://burningporcupine.com/
Grafton is now promoted on Free State blogs and discussion forums as the place for
  out-of-state anarchists to set up shop.
 
The Free Staters have already made the following inroads in Westmoreland: local government positions and infiltration of a civic organization.
 
My wife is a public interest writer and has spent in excess of 300 hours researching the history of the Free State movement, its tactics of intimidation, and the secret corporate money backing its agenda.  Below is the second in her series of articles which appears today at www.counterpunch.org
 
If you would like to receive the first article in the series, future updates and a draft proposal for a 10-step program for dealing with the agenda of the Free State movement (which I seek resident input for),  simply hit reply and type “Subscribe” in the subject line.
 
You may feel free to forward this email to other community-minded residents.
 
Sincerely,
 
Russ Martens
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blackie

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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #710 on: April 28, 2009, 05:02:54 PM »

Friday may be good for more drama

http://freekeene.com/2009/04/28/marijuana-activist-refusing-to-attend-trial-if-cameras-banned-from-court/

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Marijuana Activist Refusing to Attend Trial if Cameras Banned from Court

Filed under: Issues, News, Thuggery — Ian at 2:20 pm on Tuesday, April 28, 2009

In response to the recent arrests (including one indefinite jailing) of videographers in the Keene District Court lobby, Andrew Carroll, who will be tried for his civil disobedience of publicly possessing marijuana on May 1st at 1:30pm, has stated the following on the Free Keene Forum:

 
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  I am going to refuse to proceed with my court case (May 1, at 1:30 pm) until cameras are allowed in. Freedom of the press is too invaluable to the protection of liberty to let its blatant violation go unchallenged. I demand the officers and magistrates of the court show proper respect for the rights of individuals. Someone needs to watch the watchers.

    I will show up on May 1 and attend my trial as scheduled; but I will refuse to proceed with the trial without cameras there. They are too essential to a fair trial - or, more accurately, too essential to holding judges accountable for creating unfair trials - to proceed without them.

    You are all, of course, free to do as you please, but that is my plan. Sam is still in jail and the least I can do to thank him for his bravery is try to take the absurdity of all these abuses to court and challenge them there. Perhaps keep him company in Westmoreland, if that’s what it comes down to. But that decision is in the hands of the “authorities.” The next move belongs to them. Let us see how many peaceful people they will throw in jail.

Other forum posts suggest that in addition to this civil disobedience by Carroll, more liberty activists may choose to also risk arrest by recording video in the allegedly public lobby of the district court, to show support for jailed videographer and activist Sam Dodson as well as journalist Dave Ridley who was first arrested for recording in the same lobby back in March.

Activists will likely gather downstairs at 3 Washington St. after 1pm on Friday. Will the government people allow cameras in their allegedly public court, or will they continue cracking down on peaceful people attempting to exercise their supposed right to freedom of the press? Also, will Andrew be jailed over his courageous act of possessing cannabis in public? If you can’t be here in person, watch it unfold here on the blog.
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #711 on: April 28, 2009, 09:18:49 PM »

Andrew shoulda been the one planting the garden instead of AnarchoJesse. His woulda been filled with other plants :)

But of course he is right up there with Sam: really wants to get a rap sheet.
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #712 on: April 28, 2009, 10:30:04 PM »

Letter sent out in the town Mark lives in:

http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=17641.msg211890#msg211890
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April 27, 2009
 
Dear Fellow Westmorelanders:
 
Blah, blah, blah...
 
Sincerely,
 
Russ Martens
This was sent as an email?

Did they talk about this on FTL?

Do people in the town know about Mark's "background" yet?
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #713 on: April 28, 2009, 10:31:30 PM »

Rut roh
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #714 on: April 29, 2009, 12:20:41 AM »

Those people are severely ugly. Deeply confused, thoroughly misguided, they need to be disabused of the notion that an increase in government power can possibly equal a proportional increase in human liberty. They are inversely proportional. Reading her article made me sick. Literally. My stomach turned.
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #716 on: April 29, 2009, 01:58:52 PM »

Letter sent out in the town Mark lives in:

http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=17641.msg211890#msg211890
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April 27, 2009
 
Dear Fellow Westmorelanders:
 
Leaders of the Free State Project movement have now bought homes and property in Westmoreland.
 
While my wife and I believe that tolerance for divergi ng views is a hallmark of a robust democracy, we also believe it is necessary to have a comprehensive understanding of those who say their objective is to “take over” state and local government in New Hampshire.
 
The town of Grafton, New Hampshire did not have an adequate plan in 2004 for dealing with the Free Staters.  Grafton’s status today is as follows:
 
17 properties are now owned by Free Staters;
The Free Staters put a warrant article on the ballot to kill the Planning Board;
One Free Stater, whom they say has been expelled, set up a web site targeting
  specific townspeople standing in their way to a takeover;
The Free Staters initiated the Grafton Gazette newspaper to promote
    their agenda and silence the opposition;
A large gathering of anarchists from around the country were invited to Grafton
  in 2008.  See this website for details: http://burningporcupine.com/
Grafton is now promoted on Free State blogs and discussion forums as the place for
  out-of-state anarchists to set up shop.
 
The Free Staters have already made the following inroads in Westmoreland: local government positions and infiltration of a civic organization.
 
My wife is a public interest writer and has spent in excess of 300 hours researching the history of the Free State movement, its tactics of intimidation, and the secret corporate money backing its agenda.  Below is the second in her series of articles which appears today at www.counterpunch.org
 
If you would like to receive the first article in the series, future updates and a draft proposal for a 10-step program for dealing with the agenda of the Free State movement (which I seek resident input for),  simply hit reply and type “Subscribe” in the subject line.
 
You may feel free to forward this email to other community-minded residents.
 
Sincerely,
 
Russ Martens


So now Tim Condon wrote to me this morning:

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Greetings, Larry. Hope this finds you and your family doing well. I just wanted
to alert you to the fact that the communists and Democrats have apparently
launched a full-scale smear campaign against the Free State Project and those of
us who have moved to Grafton. They're prominently using your Free Town web sites
to discredit us. (Check it all out at
http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=17641.msg210785, and at the
referenced Keene Sentinel article, as well as the two smear pieces published in
the online communist magazine Counterpunch.) I really wish you'd take your Free
Town web sites down, or at least note on them that you're not with the Free
State Project and that the sites are not connected with or approved by the FSP.
Your references to cannibalism and incest and other such stuff, as you know, are
at odds with what the rest of us believe. ---Tim Condon


And this was my reply:

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No, they are not at odds; all libertarians oppose enforcement of laws that
punish such acts between consenting adults, and many FSP Participants are
libertarians. In fact, many FSP Participants - especially at NHUnderGround and
FreeTalkLive - today are saying the very same things to which you have objected
so strenuously (actually you do NOT object to those things, you only object to
their being voiced out loud - as if the shitheads are too dumb to google
Libertarianism).
As I tried to tell you many times, you can't achieve a voting majority in a
State without first achieving a voting majority in one small portion of that
State. And there is nothing immoral about using the Force of the Vote to stop
the Initiation of Force by some old-time residents of a Town against their
neighbors.

Read the explanation by your Dalebert here:
http://freekeene.com/2009/04/20/fine-young-cannibals/#more-1832
He seems to get it: It is a mistake to conflate (1) opposing the punishment of
an activity and (2) advocating or promoting that activity. - - - But then he
does exactly that when referring to me!

We will take over the Town Governments of Grafton and Ellsworth, and as I told
you long ago we will do it even without Converting most of the current
residents.

Respect works both ways, you know. When the shitheads do not respect our right
not to be threatened and incarcerated, we have no obligation to respect their
desire to Initiate Force against their neighbors.
And I regret to inform you that I am going to have to put Merle on The List, for
his participation in a State drug bust in Grafton. He has made his choice to
Initiate Force.

As for stating that the FSP is not associated with this or that site, my
goodness aren't you the ones who after 501(c)(3/4) have insisted that you do NOT
take any stand at all on which views the Participants espouse? Are you guys now
taking a position for and against certain political viewpoints once more?
BALLS? Say it isn't so, Tim.
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #717 on: April 29, 2009, 02:09:30 PM »

Nice.
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #718 on: April 29, 2009, 08:06:56 PM »

I love how Ms. Martens links the Kochs to the whole FSP through a single person who is affiliated with institutions that are funded by the Kochs.  If that's the worst she can do to the FSP, I'd love to see what she turns up when she investigates our two major political parties.
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blackie

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« Reply #719 on: May 01, 2009, 01:15:19 PM »

Free staters should be getting arrested right about now.
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