Unofficial History of Drama in the Free State

[jimmed]

"Two months from now one of your children could disappear."

Iz dat a threat?

[Blackie]

http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=13396.msg230293#msg230293

Some of the PMs I was getting were so crazy angry at Russell's Ex, that I thought I should give it a break, if only for her protection.  I don't want any of the gun slingers to get so crazy that they track her down and do something to her.

[One two three]

Guess who?
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=13365.msg230852#msg230852

Russell has done more than a million dollars worth of freedom activism.  This activism will help all children including yours.  You should be as grateful for his contributions as the rest of us are.

I have no clue who that is.

[Blackie]

Guess who?
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=13365.msg230852#msg230852

Russell has done more than a million dollars worth of freedom activism.  This activism will help all children including yours.  You should be as grateful for his contributions as the rest of us are.

I have no clue who that is.

http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=13365.msg231377#msg231377

How bout now?

[sillyperson]

Guess who?
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=13365.msg230852#msg230852

Russell has done more than a million dollars worth of freedom activism.  This activism will help all children including yours.  You should be as grateful for his contributions as the rest of us are.

I have no clue who that is.

http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=13365.msg231377#msg231377

How bout now?

I don't buy it. Galt's posts are lame, but not overtly offensive. At least, not as offensive as Powerchuter's. At least, they weren't before I put Galt on Ignore for being so damn longwinded. Maybe he's worse now.

[Barterer]

Oh, you probably already know who it is...
Since the character in question...
likes to make slightly shorter...
sentences or fragments...
that come down to...
the main central...
point that he...
is trying...
to...
 

Bust.  But so what?

[jimmed]

Enjoi!

[sillyperson]

John Shaw!

[Blackie]

http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=13365.msg231659#msg231659

First of all, I would like to publicly thank those of you who understand what I am trying to say. I can't say enough how saddened I am by all that is happening to Russell. There will always be those who disagree, those who dissect each word...those who just have different views. This is not political for me. Its personal. Its what happened to me and to Joe, and Jesse and Katie. We worked very hard for many years, alone and without support. Thankfully, family and friends helped. However, Russell is where he is today, due to his personal choices. I have very little to do with that. And though I am glad he is out of our lives, I recognize he has a new life....but it is one that he is destroying. He robbed his first family, and now the pattern continues, albeit with a different slant. He is robbing his second family of his time and money too, just to make a point. He owes $139,000 to his children. He could have negotiated that out of court for many years.

For you, his supporters, why wouldn't he do that? Because you say, he couldn't see the kids...? He could have. I couldn't have stopped him, by law. And never tried...So what is your sticking point here? That I haven't given him enough chances? That because I wanted to be divorced from someone who physically harmed our children, I should 'go it alone'?

I am not a murderer, kidnapper...or otherwise, as one person so villified me. In my own defense, I have quite courageously handled many difficulties that Russell would not. At the end of the day, I look at our three wonderful kids...and thank God for how far He has brought us. And I have peace about it. 

[ny2nh]

The monthly dues were an amount arbitrarily decided by the state in the first place after the wife decided to divorce Russell. They were also based on salary from a job that he is no longer comfortable with and may not even be able to resume if he wanted. He's pretty dirt poor right now. I gave up a high-paying job to live on my own terms. It's particularly disturbing when you're busting your ass in a 9 to 5 that makes you miserable just to hand over half of it over for taxes, (and I don't just mean income taxes) so I can relate. It makes you truly feel like a slave.

I can appreciate anyone wanting to make a change in their life to find a better qualify of life....and that might mean giving up one particular job and living on far less and being far happier. But - and I think this is a big but - when you have children, you are responsible for them. Is it fair to the child that mom or dad just decide to up and stop supporting them? I know that the system often works against one of the parents (and all too often the father) but this is still about financially supporting your children. It shouldn't matter if they are natural born or adopted...no one forces someone to adopt children - and once you do, they're yours. IMO the rules that apply to those without children are different than those with. I am single and have no children, so, like dalebert, I can pick up and move wherever and however I like. The only person it effects is me. If, on the other hand, I had children, then then I need to first be responsible to them and then to myself. How would you feel if someone with kids just decided one day to not come home and feed the kids? It's really the same thing....just on a grander scale.

And I agree with Denis - this isn't civil disobedience - this is just contract enforcement. If Russel didn't like the contract, he should have attempted to change it.

That said - I feel bad for Kat - this has to be really hard to deal with.

[Blackie]

But - and I think this is a big but

Everyone I know has a big butt

[Blackie]

How would you feel if someone with kids just decided one day to not come home and feed the kids? It's really the same thing....just on a grander scale.

Russell probably said he was going out to get coco-puffs and never came back.

[jimmed]

"I couldn't have stopped him, by law. And never tried..."

She had a restraining order put against him. Liar.

[Blackie]

It didn't expire until 2007. But Russell doesn't listen to the court.

[Lindsey]

It didn't expire until 2007. But Russell doesn't listen to the court.

We hadn't noticed.