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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #4860 on: February 03, 2012, 08:25:15 PM »

Of course none of you arm-chair drama queens wants to wait until I get the opportunity to defend myself,
you think your forum and its users are more important than my ability to defend myself in court.

You're already planning to lose in court. Otherwise you/Robin/both of you wouldn't be looking to buy an RV to get out of dodge.

My bet still stands. You'll never show up in court.
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #4861 on: February 03, 2012, 10:36:40 PM »

Let's get off this boring court stuff for just a minute here for some more important stuff.

Just where can we find this Robin porn?
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #4862 on: February 03, 2012, 10:45:30 PM »

Just where can we find this Robin porn?

PM her. She implies she could use the business right now.
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #4863 on: February 03, 2012, 10:48:26 PM »

And seriously, when did how I use my money become any business of yours?

I dunno, when you don't pay someone in the community rent that you owe them when you've signed a lease?

$5k in silver, eh? Seems like you have rent money. Either Robin was lying about not being able to afford bacon, or you've just got that much control over her.



Dont YOU owe somebody a great deal of money? Seems a bit hypocritical to me what you are doing.

I could be wrong though as I do not follow the drama very much and skip pages in this thread.

No, I don't, which is what I'll be arguing in court.

Of course none of you arm-chair drama queens wants to wait until I get the opportunity to defend myself,
you think your forum and its users are more important than my ability to defend myself in court.

Hey I'm no drama queen. And I wasnt saying that you did. I was talking to BJ.

Let's get off this boring court stuff for just a minute here for some more important stuff.

Just where can we find this Robin porn?

Snooze ya lose.

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« Reply #4864 on: February 04, 2012, 12:30:54 AM »

My only comment so far is that computer printer toner is a far better medium for a lease than crayon.  I guess no one planned to show it to anyone, because I'd be embarrassed, no matter what part I had in the arrangement...and that's for starters.
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #4865 on: February 04, 2012, 11:25:03 AM »

Just where can we find this Robin porn?

PM her. She implies she could use the business right now.

I definitely do not need ANY business you drum up for me.

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« Reply #4866 on: February 04, 2012, 02:17:59 PM »

Just where can we find this Robin porn?

PM her. She implies she could use the business right now.

Sorry can't afford custom porn right now.  Was hoping to find it free on the inter webs.
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #4867 on: February 04, 2012, 04:02:56 PM »

Just where can we find this Robin porn?


PM her. She implies she could use the business right now.

Sorry can't afford custom porn right now.  Was hoping to find it free on the inter webs.

TANSTAFP

OK, yes there is. But still, help the woman buy an RV to get the fuck out of NH.
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« Reply #4868 on: February 05, 2012, 02:19:49 AM »

How much do PORN STARS make in NH?

Yearly ballpark range or whatever.

Also, it seems like that could be a job you do on the side for some extra income. How much time does it take per day?

It doesn't really matter, location being a non-issue on web income.  They can see any shows regardless of where it comes from.  She can have subscribers in most of the world. 

Usually, they have one of two options -

Own their own domain, or be a part of a network.

Sometimes the domain overlaps with a network - like, if the customer signs up for "Blackie.com", they'd get access to about a dozen other "sister affiliates", all part of the franchise.  Those divvy up the proceeds favoring whomever's website generated the subscription. 

The webcam network in its pure form, the chick would only get a token sum per scheduled appearances (kinda like a waitress), then she gets a portion of private shows purchased by the customer.  Those are the low-class operations.  You've seen those with like fifty chicks, and an "online" status. 

Owning their entire own domain, they get all registration fees (monthly subscriptions), plus the price-per-minute of private shows.  In those situations, they usually have archives of past performances, photo-shoots.  Depending on the chick, they can get 10-20 a month for subscriptions, so if they had a thousand regs, they'd make 10-20k a month in subscription fees alone.  Plus "tips", and the private show fees.

Its not uncommon for the person who owns their entire own individual domain to "leak" their shows onto file-sharing sites, to generate attention and get customer throughput. 

Often, chicks can get "found" by the industry doing cam shows.  Then they make "guest appearances" on bigger websites, and eventually may start making movies.

Sometimes, to jump-start that activity, they'll do weekend runs at strip clubs within driving distance.  Billed as "Internet Sensation" for Friday and Saturday, hand out cards at the clubs, and then go home and do weekday shows with the newly-generated traffic. 

Usually, if they want to "make it", they can't pick and choose their anonymity.  I know it would be kind of annoying to be bothered by locals - but theres a built-in buffer...  Most people don't like to admit they've seen porn, so they'll usually leave the chick alone.

This crowd is a little unusual in that aspect, because there are virtually no taboos. 

...but, after the floundering-around period while the private domain gets up and running, theres no reason why a chick couldn't make 50-100k a year.  Sometimes much more. 

In tips alone, the chicks at big-name stripjoints can pull down 250k.  Obviously, they have to be there most nights, and have outstanding looks, but its not unheard of. 

Same goes for porn girls in fully-x rated movies.  They get between 2-3k a scene - if they're working for a brand-name boxcover..  If doing 2-3 scenes a week, thats why some girls have a list of upwards of 1000 movies after a five-year career. 

Theres a lot of money in porn, no matter how you cut it.  It just has to be done "right".  If you wanna make movies, you move to Cali.  If you wanna self-produce your own content on the web, it doesn't matter where you're at.






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« Reply #4869 on: February 05, 2012, 12:49:16 PM »

He helped someone with a documentary about gay porn or something.

Pretty close. It was about men in the sex industry, but what he was discovering was that there's virtually no female market for porn or prostitution. So straight guys have to be gay-for-pay to make any money. A few can do Chippendales-style shows and make good money, but most of them at least do gay shows as well. And if they can stomach it, some will try to pick up tricks that way as well and just have varying limits as to what they'll do with a guy. The gigolo who works for wealthy women is basically a myth except for perhaps the occasional kept man, but that's well beyond just sex services.

The gay industry is different than the straight though. The taboo for being a gay porn star is all but completely gone so the market is fairly flooded with willing applicants. Most of them work for peanuts just for the reasons you gave hoping it'll help their other work. Women still get the bulk of the money in straight porn and the guys work for peanuts there too. That's straight outta Ron Jeremy's mouth. It's all supply & demand.

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« Reply #4870 on: February 05, 2012, 04:03:03 PM »

Yeah, that. 

Gay men are a whole different species in porn.  In fact, some straight male performers had to get into the biz by doing gay films. 

Also, the gay male movie sales are smaller, because the audience is smaller, and thus less are produced, which in turn means less roles for performers.

Its just how it is.  This could've been shown by checking a well-used P2P porn torrent tracker called "Cheggit", but they went out of biz last week from fear of SOPA.  If you browsed their torrents randomly, it was maybe 20:1 gay. 

And that's not just for feature-length professional vids - it had torrents of anything.  Clips, cam-shows, you name it.  Its just a smaller audience. 

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« Reply #4871 on: February 09, 2012, 09:35:00 AM »

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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #4872 on: February 09, 2012, 10:20:36 AM »

yeah i totally want a shitty travel trailer that is only good for ice fishing... i will prop that thing up on skateboards and pull it around with a dog leash.
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« Reply #4873 on: February 09, 2012, 01:51:23 PM »

yeah i totally want a shitty travel trailer that is only good for ice fishing... i will prop that thing up on skateboards and pull it around with a dog leash.

Its probably too heavy for that. 
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« Reply #4874 on: February 09, 2012, 01:55:08 PM »

yeah, that was sarcasm
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