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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #45 on: March 16, 2008, 04:56:24 PM »

The sucky part is I think they all have kids.  :(

I can only imagine your parents never divorced or you're an oversensitive whiner.

Parents divorcing is rarely distressing for kids in my personal experience, and it definately is not an obligatorily upsetting situation. "staying together for the kids" is just nuts.

My parents are two separate people. If one or both no longer wants to be in a relationship then I'm happy for them to make a change. The only difference it has made to my childhood is I got Christmas at 2 houses instead of 1. Even at the age of 6, I understood that my  . In my early, so if anything divorce was a positive affect on my relationship with my parents.

Out of all my close friends whose parents divorced non of them feel like they have lost out in any respect of their childhood or relationship. Not to say that divorcing can't be an upsetting for children, but in those cases any distress is just a symptom of bad parenting, there is no reason why 2 smart, caring parents can't amicably divorce without adversely affecting their children's lives. If anything 2 people staying in an unhealthy relationship for the "sake of the kids" will only cause more bad feeling and friction that is even more likely to spill over onto the kids. If there has been major emotional turmoil between a couple with kids, the last thing they need is to try and pretend nothing happen and contain all that anger and distress into one household.

 My parents were both very considerate to the feelings of me and my siblings at the time, and they way over estimated how big a deal it was.

In my opinion, all the hype around divorce affecting kids just adds more credence to the ideal nuclear family myth, and gives more pathetic people a chance to bitch about something in their life that has no real significance.

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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #46 on: March 16, 2008, 05:22:54 PM »

I don't think there are kids involved in this case.
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #47 on: March 16, 2008, 06:53:05 PM »

Only one party has kids, an it ain't the married one.
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« Reply #48 on: March 16, 2008, 08:13:31 PM »

No, I didn't do it at all.  My parents weren't married when I was born, and the hospital wouldn't allow them to put just my father's last name on the birth certificate or something.  They told me once years ago, but I wasn't really listening.  It had something to do with them not being married, though. 

Hospitals are chock full of assholes.  They often know not of what they speak.  The fathers name is law, if his name is on the BC and its not disputed.  If theres any static, it's because the mother put her two cents in, and wanted things to be partially her way. 

Sometimes they'll actually lie to the father and tell him bullshit, and talk to the mother privately.  If the mother says its his kid and he doesn't dispute it, it gets the fathers name if both parents agree.

It could even vary from case to case within the hospital, depending on which cunt is working the social worker job that day. 

I hate people in bureaucratic positions.  Thats the stuff that starts the ball rolling on many problems.  They bend to Planned Parenthood and nwould surely give her a fat stack of cards to carry, he'd be delighted. 

I honestly have no idea.  I mean, they were both present during the birth, just not married.  They did it wrong.  They got married later, and then divorced, and then lived together for ten years after that. 
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« Reply #49 on: March 16, 2008, 09:52:08 PM »

As for the Ex, didn't I read on NHUnderground you two are on the way to some sort of understanding lately? If so, that's great - especially if it leads to you & your parents re-establishing contact with your children. Can she call off the california child support enforcement, or are you going to continue to be stuck on "deadbeat" status?
Our big breakthrough last May .... was that she allowed me to actually see my kids for the first time in 4 years. I don't know when I will see them again.
She still wants me to pay.
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« Reply #50 on: March 16, 2008, 09:54:01 PM »

Quote from: Douchey LaRue
It's Margot Sanger-Katz, a reporter from the Concord Monitor in New Hampshire...
Just to clarify, what I called Douchey was John Shaw's posting of NHA10's widely-known personal info, not NHA10 himself.  No offense meant to either guy.

Just to clarify, what I posted was from NHA10's explanation of who the chick in his avatar is, and I changed his name to Douchey LaRue.  Because I mean to be offensive. 

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« Reply #51 on: March 16, 2008, 10:40:01 PM »

As for the Ex, didn't I read on NHUnderground you two are on the way to some sort of understanding lately? If so, that's great - especially if it leads to you & your parents re-establishing contact with your children. Can she call off the california child support enforcement, or are you going to continue to be stuck on "deadbeat" status?
Our big breakthrough last May .... was that she allowed me to actually see my kids for the first time in 4 years. I don't know when I will see them again.
She still wants me to pay.

I have a friend who pays $800 per month in child support to his ex-wife for his son.  She wants more.  She is a nurse, who makes pretty fucking good money on her own, takes the $800 in child support for that kid, and has two other kids with her OTHER ex, whom she collects $1600 per month from.  I just can't identify with the greedy bitches.  I just can't.   :(
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #52 on: March 16, 2008, 10:44:59 PM »

As for the Ex, didn't I read on NHUnderground you two are on the way to some sort of understanding lately? If so, that's great - especially if it leads to you & your parents re-establishing contact with your children. Can she call off the california child support enforcement, or are you going to continue to be stuck on "deadbeat" status?
Our big breakthrough last May .... was that she allowed me to actually see my kids for the first time in 4 years. I don't know when I will see them again.
She still wants me to pay.

I have a friend who pays $800 per month in child support to his ex-wife for his son.  She wants more.  She is a nurse, who makes pretty fucking good money on her own, takes the $800 in child support for that kid, and has two other kids with her OTHER ex, whom she collects $1600 per month from.  I just can't identify with the greedy bitches.  I just can't.   :(

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« Reply #53 on: March 17, 2008, 09:35:34 AM »

The sucky part is I think they all have kids.  :(

I can only imagine your parents never divorced or you're an oversensitive whiner.
I'm glad I was thinking of different bill + kate couple.

Divorces like this don't go well. But anyway, it's nice that your parents had a "happy" divorce. Did they have a party?
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« Reply #54 on: March 17, 2008, 09:49:23 AM »

As for the Ex, didn't I read on NHUnderground you two are on the way to some sort of understanding lately? If so, that's great - especially if it leads to you & your parents re-establishing contact with your children. Can she call off the california child support enforcement, or are you going to continue to be stuck on "deadbeat" status?
Our big breakthrough last May .... was that she allowed me to actually see my kids for the first time in 4 years. I don't know when I will see them again.
She still wants me to pay.

I have a friend who pays $800 per month in child support to his ex-wife for his son.  She wants more.  She is a nurse, who makes pretty fucking good money on her own, takes the $800 in child support for that kid, and has two other kids with her OTHER ex, whom she collects $1600 per month from.  I just can't identify with the greedy bitches.  I just can't.   :(

this...

In NH child support is a percentage of your pay. I guess the feds can garish your pay up to 60%...but a guy I work with pays something like $2400 for two kids, and he had custody of one.

He got kicked of the the house by the cops, who showed up one night and told him he had five minutes to gather up his shit, and, they took his guns. And he couldn't go back without a police escort. Pretty much ever again. He also had to pay the property taxes on the house until it got sold a year and a half later.

http://www.familyrightsassociation.com/bin/THINKING/Silver_bullet.htm
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The "Silver Bullet Technique" 

The "silver bullet" technique involves a carefully contrived, and set up false accusation of Domestic abuse, or, when possible, the provocation of real incident of Domestic abuse.  Those who perpetrate this scam will make the charge of Domestic abuse, no matter what their victim does, or fails to do.

In many cases they close joint bank accounts, and make doctors appointments, BEFORE they create the "incident".

It happens hundreds of times every day. 

This technique is being taught by political activists, who pose as victim's advocates. It is a means of gaining advantage, in any confrontation- particularly divorce. It gives the complaining party (referred to as the "victim"), immediate exclusive custody to the house, to the contents of the house, and to the children. It gives the REAL VICTIM (referred to as the "Defendant")  the responsibility for all of the bills, while he is trying to deal with suddenly becoming homeless.

The perpetrators call themselves "victims".

The REAL victims generally do not have a clue what was done to them.

Over and over we see the following interesting phenomenon:

1.  A marriage has existed for decades. There was never a call to 911, never a policeman in the house, never a complaint to family court, never a complaint to the Department of Social Services, never a time when the wife left the house "to avoid abuse".

2. The wife goes to see a divorce attorney, for reasons known only to herself.

3. Within a few weeks there is a call to 911, police in the house, a complaint to family court, a complaint to the Department of Social Services.  On the night of the alleged abuse the wife leaves the house "to avoid abuse".  The next day she has her husband thrown out of the house by the court.

4. OF COURSE, the divorce attorney claims no involvement in creating such a strange change in the pattern of this marriage.

The first step is usually a complaint for relief from "domestic abuse". This is filed in Family Court Relief from "domestic abuse" is a civil action for restraining orders.

"Separate the combatants" is the goal of the family court. There is very little consideration given to the question of who is to blame. The more important consideration is the question of which "combatant" is best able to deal with suddenly becoming homeless. 

It does not take too long to figure out that it is usually the man, who suddenly becomes homeless.

Women generally know this, when they complain.

This is not a game for tramps only.  If the most exalted love of your life ever becomes "a woman scorned", you could STILL SEE THIS HAPPEN. Most of these "women scorned" scenarios involve WIVES.

The "silver bullet" technique is a system of stripping you of your property, your right to own a gun, and your freedom. It can put you out of you own home, with no access to your own money, your children, or your possessions. It can cause you unlimited legal expenses. It can turn your friends and family against you.
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #55 on: March 17, 2008, 10:27:29 AM »

When I got banned from the http://forumnazi.com site, it was ivy that was so upset by my comment:
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=13160.msg226492#msg226492

They are saying worse stuff about her.
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #56 on: March 17, 2008, 10:33:54 AM »

News flash, more and different drama...
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=13365.0

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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #57 on: March 17, 2008, 10:35:23 AM »

If he likes it so much, they should just keep him in there for good.
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« Reply #58 on: March 17, 2008, 11:53:55 AM »

If he likes it so much, they should just keep him in there for good.
Apparently, you've never heard of CD before. Are you even an FTL listener?
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« Reply #59 on: March 17, 2008, 11:59:21 AM »

If he likes it so much, they should just keep him in there for good.
Apparently, you've never heard of CD before.

I have, and I think it just makes you look dumb.
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