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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #2550 on: December 03, 2009, 10:50:38 AM »

If there really had been a prescription, his defense would have been a slam dunk.  The pharmacy would have a record.  The doctor would have a file.

Instead of offering that very real and simple defense, he agreed to 10 to 30 years in prison, where child molestors are reportedly treated very badly by other prisoners.
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #2551 on: December 03, 2009, 12:03:35 PM »

For the record I always thought he was a little creepy.
^ this

I just didn't want to be the first one to say it in the forums.  :shock:

I was thinking about the vindictive ex-wife theory and how she could have done this to better her result in the divorce. Did they even own a house? I don't think there was anything TO split as far as assets go. The only debate would be over custody. I would agree that some parents might stretch the truth about the other parent's anger, or drinking to better their outcome in a custody battle - but I find it hard to think that someone would allow the man they married - the father of her child (or children) - to go to jail for child molestation to 10 years....just to get a better custody deal. Not saying it doesn't ever happen - but as much as many people dislike or down right hate their ex, they usually won't go to such extremes. Even if she initially made accusations, I have a hard time thinking someone could follow through to the point of prison time and basically ruining his life unless something did happen.

I am not informed on his case, and can't speak to it. But if say an ex-wife makes accusations and then the situation goes farther than they imagine and the guy ends up with 10 years, then fear on her part plays a big role. Will she be charged and have to go to jail? What will happen to her children? Will he be so angry that he wants to hurt her? Will a judge give him custody as a result? How will she pay for defending herself in court? What will people think of her? I can say definitively that there is no small amount of men in prison that claim these sorts of things happen. My favorite story is: the guy takes the drunk driving rap for his girlfriend (it later turns into Vehicular Homicide) and gets ten years. Shortly after he gets the sentence signed sealed and delivered, she stops writing and can't afford the phone calls anymore. Wouldn't you know it, some friends of his see a friend of his consoling her on multiple occasions.


http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/044188.html

http://www.freedominourtime.blogspot.com/


the goon-squad thugsters have never proven themselves to be trustworthy...

our bet is that they told him that they would arrest, convict, and send away his ex also...if he didn't plead out...

then his children would become wards of the state, to be adopted out and subsequently abused by foster care-takers...

maybe they could just be sent to live with a priest or preacher or minister...cause they're always upstanding care-takers of Jesus's little ones...

seriously, these are the same people who shot Vicki and Sammy Weaver and roasted the folks at WACO...

these are the same people who pursued and locked up Bill Benson, Larkin Rose, Irwin Schiff, Sherry Jackson, etc...

these are the same people who remotely pilot killer drones over foreign sovereign territories to blow-up homes, businesses, churches, and people...


never never never put anything past them


They wanted Tim worse than they wanted Randy Weaver...


and they found a way to get at him and get him and make him an example to others to perpetuate their fear factor and terror tactic...


Look at what they are doing to Brad Jardis...


Brad needs to quit being a jackboot before he suffers friendly fire or ends up being set-up or conveniently in the wrong place at the wrong time...


Remember, these thugsters are ruthless and they will become even more ruthless as their time expires...


enjoy!


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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #2552 on: December 03, 2009, 12:56:40 PM »

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seriously, these are the same people who shot Vicki and Sammy Weaver and roasted the folks at WACO...

these are the same people who pursued and locked up Bill Benson, Larkin Rose, Irwin Schiff, Sherry Jackson, etc...

these are the same people who remotely pilot killer drones over foreign sovereign territories to blow-up homes, businesses, churches, and people...

Except... they're not, are they?

You don't have a clue how trustworthy the people in question are.

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« Reply #2553 on: December 03, 2009, 03:03:41 PM »

eh, seems to me if he weren't guilty, he wouldn't have pled guilty. Yes, they might have put a lot of pressure for him to plead guilty, but what's worse: maintaining your innocence and being in prison but having a chance to eventually prove your innocence and make things up to your family or being in prison for only 10 years and having everyone think you're a pedophile? The fact that his only concern was that being in prison 25 to life would be scary makes me think....yea, probably guilty.
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« Reply #2554 on: December 03, 2009, 03:28:33 PM »

eh, seems to me if he weren't guilty, he wouldn't have pled guilty. Yes, they might have put a lot of pressure for him to plead guilty, but what's worse: maintaining your innocence and being in prison but having a chance to eventually prove your innocence and make things up to your family or being in prison for only 10 years and having everyone think you're a pedophile? The fact that his only concern was that being in prison 25 to life would be scary makes me think....yea, probably guilty.

perhaps you did not understand correctly...

Tim stepped up to the plate for his kids...

Tim took the bullet to spare his children...

One would hope that you would do the same for your children...

Perhaps we should consult with the Honorable Denis Goddard regarding what bullets and trains he would step in front of...to protect his chitlins...

enjoy!

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« Reply #2555 on: December 03, 2009, 03:36:59 PM »

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seriously, these are the same people who shot Vicki and Sammy Weaver and roasted the folks at WACO...

these are the same people who pursued and locked up Bill Benson, Larkin Rose, Irwin Schiff, Sherry Jackson, etc...

these are the same people who remotely pilot killer drones over foreign sovereign territories to blow-up homes, businesses, churches, and people...

Except... they're not, are they?

You don't have a clue how trustworthy the people in question are.


Re: BEWARE!!!  HR45 Blair Holt Firearms Legislation

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45


Hi All,

Wow, where to begin.

This type of email continues to circulate regard this, and other, registration/confiscation type legislative
introductions. With respect to HR45 you'll notice it was introduced by Bobby Rush from the People's Republic of Chicago.

Bobby Rush was a Black Panther. He has never been a friend to anyone wanting to keep gold or guns. He likes the Chicago
machine that paid him and his cohorts in gold, guns, and bureaucratic positions though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Rush

Bobby Rush is a friend of Barrack Obama and Rham Emanuel. Again, the Chicago machine continues the looting of downstate
for the benefit of Chicago while at the same time extending and furthering that looting to the national and
international levels they so desire.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_obama

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahm_Emanuel

Then there are others like the Bushes and Clintons who are figureheads in the machine and who are known drug-runners and
drug-profiteers. Papa Bush through his time in the CIA, Baby Bush openly sharing cocaine on the streets of Austin, and
the Clintons with all the death and destruction surrounding their activities with Barry Seal and others in Mena,
Arkansas and the White House. You will remember that Marine Oliver North figured prominently in what little that was
revealed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mena_Arkansas

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Seal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_North

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vince_Foster

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_Clinton



Now you'll be thinking that they won't declare Martial Law and that they won't put military assets to domestic use and
that they won't call in United Nations Peace-Keeping Forces/Mercenaries(Blue Helmets) from foreign lands.

How'd that work out for the Japanese and Koreans and Vietnamese and Lebanese and Somalis and Iraqis and Afghanis and
Pakistanis and the Branch Dividians and the Indianapolis Baptist Temple and Irwin Schiff and Sherry Peel Jackson?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_Civil_War

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mogadishu_(1993)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_(2001-present)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_in_Afghanistan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_in_Afghanistan#1979:_Soviet_deployment
(included this subsection link for quick access to commentary by Zbigniew_Brzezinski)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski
(this guy is one of the most dangerous people alive...global-elite money-master genocide-orchestrator)
(Zbigniew could eat Hillary for breakfast, Barack for lunch, Cheney for dinner, and Oprah for an evening snack)
(anyone and everyone around this man should be considered armed, dangerous, on his payroll, and at his service)

anywho, back to the links...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Terrorism_in_Pakistan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_Siege

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indianapolis_Baptist_Temple

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irwin_Schiff

http://www.sherrypeeljackson.com/

http://irwinschiff.homestead.com/POWaddresses.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Peltier


There are millions of additional web-pages in hundreds of languages that detail human rights abuses and genocides
extensively.

We will leave you with these thoughts:

There are only two types of human beings

One type just wants everyone to leave everyone else alone

The other type refuses to do so while they still breathe

One type knows that an armed society is a polite one and fences make good neighbors

The other type wants their victims unarmed and helpless and refuses to acknowledge or respect Life, Liberty, or Property


hey...once you're shackled, imprisoned, and/or murdered...kinda hard to do much of anything then...


but then again...Adolph gave plenty of showers to the jews, handicapped, and elderly...


showers and napalm yesterday...Predators and Reapers and Warriors today...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MQ-1_Predator

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MQ-9_Reaper

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MQ-1C_Warrior


training the children of today for the murders and genocides of tomorrow...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_of_Duty:_Modern_Warfare_2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=429l13dS6kQ

enjoy!

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« Reply #2556 on: December 03, 2009, 05:32:15 PM »

eh, seems to me if he weren't guilty, he wouldn't have pled guilty. Yes, they might have put a lot of pressure for him to plead guilty, but what's worse: maintaining your innocence and being in prison but having a chance to eventually prove your innocence and make things up to your family or being in prison for only 10 years and having everyone think you're a pedophile? The fact that his only concern was that being in prison 25 to life would be scary makes me think....yea, probably guilty.

perhaps you did not understand correctly...

Tim stepped up to the plate for his kids...

Tim took the bullet to spare his children...

One would hope that you would do the same for your children...

Except not if he's molesting them. But that has already apparently been judged an impossible occurrence. I've interacted with people who have been molested by their parents. It really fucks them up. If Logsdon really were going to bat for his kids, he would never have pled guilty, regardless of the threats...unless he actually did it.
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Re: Drama in the Free State
« Reply #2557 on: December 03, 2009, 05:42:55 PM »

Skeletons don't sleep
http://nhcaptv.com/episode/80

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« Reply #2558 on: December 03, 2009, 06:09:25 PM »

eh, seems to me if he weren't guilty, he wouldn't have pled guilty. Yes, they might have put a lot of pressure for him to plead guilty, but what's worse: maintaining your innocence and being in prison but having a chance to eventually prove your innocence and make things up to your family or being in prison for only 10 years and having everyone think you're a pedophile? The fact that his only concern was that being in prison 25 to life would be scary makes me think....yea, probably guilty.

perhaps you did not understand correctly...

Tim stepped up to the plate for his kids...

Tim took the bullet to spare his children...

One would hope that you would do the same for your children...

Except not if he's molesting them. But that has already apparently been judged an impossible occurrence. I've interacted with people who have been molested by their parents. It really fucks them up. If Logsdon really were going to bat for his kids, he would never have pled guilty, regardless of the threats...unless he actually did it.

Innocent until proven guilty

Give others the benefit of any doubt

Always suspect anyone/everyone from the GUNvernment

Know that for hundreds of years the GUNvernment has engaged in clandestined efforts and activities regardless of honesty and/or morality

Until you have personally been smashed by the state and beaten by the GUNvernment goon-squad enforcers...do not ever talk to those who have...like it never happens...

Anyone desiring to seek out authenticated proof of these perpetrators and their techniques and their assaults and transgressions...finds it easily on the interwebs...

by your logic, how could we ever truly determine whether or not you did...or didn't...have sexual relations with one or more of your roommates from porc manor...

if any one of them should claim that you did...would you rather we take your version...or theirs...

of course, you'll reply that you could care less what they say or claim...and that it wouldn't make a difference one way or another...

at least until you find out that someone made a decision regarding you(employment/membership/relationship/whatever) based on their version of your sexcapades...



hey, we like peas too!


enjoy!

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« Reply #2559 on: December 03, 2009, 07:08:50 PM »

did you forget I was banned from there?

You must have never tried coming back.

Dalebert set your ban for 2 weeks when he implemented it. It has been up since mid April.

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« Reply #2560 on: December 03, 2009, 08:32:09 PM »

You are aware that the Black Panthers were most decidedly pro-gun, right?

Someone here posted a pic in a thread of Black Panthers exercising their right to open-carry in California - which led to Governor Reagan signing a bill that made it illegal in CA.

Also, will someone let me know what the fuck is wrong with the latest Call of Duty game already?
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« Reply #2561 on: December 07, 2009, 10:32:31 AM »

The NHFree nuts are making the predictable supportive comments about Logsdon.  Maybe they can take up a collection for him so he can start a Free State daycare center when he gets out.
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« Reply #2562 on: December 08, 2009, 06:23:17 PM »

Yea, because you know nowadays saying your guilty is like saying you're innocent. It's just using a different word to do so.
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« Reply #2563 on: December 08, 2009, 06:25:47 PM »

Yea, because you know nowadays saying your guilty is like saying you're innocent. It's just using a different word to do so.
If the man, you know, the evil GOVERNMENT "man", says you're guilty, that's what makes you truly innocent.
But it's OK because only when you are willing to be imprisoned are you truly free, man.
Wanna go smoke dope in the town square? There's gonna be a drum circle....

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« Reply #2564 on: December 13, 2009, 10:55:24 AM »

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Well, I was going to say no...but since you mentioned the drum circle, what the hell! Why not? I can't resit a good drum circle!
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