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Title: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on September 14, 2011, 11:50:48 AM
New thread.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: John Shaw on September 14, 2011, 11:52:38 AM
I for one welcome our new Joseph Voluntaryist Non-Chalker Delano Boner thread.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on September 14, 2011, 12:20:13 PM
http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=5482.0;topicseen

I have had issues with the bullhorns, yelling, and other forms of nuisance activism.  We are pissing people off with very little benefit towards our goals. 
Once I stepped back from the events friday night, I believe the yelling, including my own is a lack of discipline.  A friend at work saw me in the square, and thought I was in the middle of a riot.  She said she wanted to try to pull me away, but was too afraid.  This woman is 10 years younger than myself, but I think she is right.  We are burning community bridges, and scarring otherwise good friends.  This is not new.  In the last week along, a woman walking her dog chit chatted with me, and I told her where I lived and she said "oh, you lived where the 420 guys all lived, they were kinda crazy".  I didn't volunteer that I was a supporter of marijuana legalization.  One of the guys in the large apt in my building said 'uncharitable' things about the freestaters.  And of course my friend at works concerns.  In one week!
I will no longer participate in these kinds of situations until I first gain discipline.  I would encourage others to join me, partly to reinforce my own intentions.  (my arrest in Nashua a year ago was largely due to getting angry and acting on impulse, I don't like to do activism outside of 'my base of support.  I was prepping myself mentally for an arrest friday, and I am glad I didn't go through with it.)  We must maintain the moral high ground, which I am increasingly concerned we have lost.  It is hard to inspire people when they are looking down their noses at us. 

Good activism should be focused on building the kind of culture and community that we want.  Anti-whatever is not building, is is only taking something down.
In the past we had a great community on Church st, with several of us living on one street.  Many in one house, although in retrospect, that may have been too close.   ;)  My front porch was the activist center before there was an activist center. 
Culture is already developing, with
1 a basic anti-authority ethic,
2 the Non-Aggression Principle, NAP,
3. and the one I like-Natural Law with an emphasis on the golden rule, followed by the two common law principles. 
----1. 'Don't do to others', as you don't want done to you. 
----2. 'Don't encroach' on other individuals or their property.
----3. 'Don't commit fraud'.

At issue is we need to focus our efforts, with is very hard in the de-centralized model we have been focusing on.  I suggest we start an organization dedicated to promotion of an image and some of the less controversial things we have attempted to promote.  The model I have in mind is the networking type organization similar to the Southern Christian Leadership Conference that Dr. Martin Luther King was president of. 
They would not organize an issue unless they could make it easy to understand and crystal clear in its objective.  Image was carefully controlled, meaning to participate you had to commit to nonviolence, and follow their rules some of which were to wear your sunday best clothes, not engage in the frequent counter-protests, and they would run training classes focused on role play and teaching how to deal with the violence directed against them without retaliation, and with discipline. 
Only a dictator can enforce near perfect control, so there were exceptions to the SCLC's best efforts, but they were the recognized leaders for years because they were successful. 

I welcome comments and ideas. 

Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on September 14, 2011, 12:24:26 PM
I guess  Friday night's dance party is what has prompted a assessment of our actions and behaviors.

I'm probably going to get shit for saying what's on my mind, but we may be able to better reflect on "cause and effect" now that the influence of Ian and CopBlock.org is temporarily absent from the Keene scene.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on September 14, 2011, 12:38:32 PM
I think what I'm trying to say is that both Ian's "Free Talk Live" product and Pete and Ademo's"CopBlock.org" benefit from the "do everything possible to antagonize government employees" approach.

Free Talk Live benefits from it by providing "interesting" show content and arguments between hosts and callers so that the show becomes more popular.

CopBlock.org benefits from it by keeping donations coming in and being able to market their merchandise.

Without the publicity of continuing to escalate confrontations, both if their streams of income slows down to a trickle.

Just a theory...
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: sillyperson on September 14, 2011, 02:15:11 PM
Without the publicity of continuing to escalate confrontations, both if their streams of income slows down to a trickle.
That's a fact, not a theory.
I've volunteered to buy one-way bus tickets for Ademo and a few select others. Their antics are perfect for someplace hopeless like California or Mass. But those same antics work against us in NH.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: alaric89 on September 14, 2011, 04:03:05 PM
Ruckus in Keene's Central Square (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxO8x7D3teo#)
Would any free Keener mind explaining why these hoodlums were being supported and the cops were getting so much shit in this video?
I mean come on, these guys were obviously trouble and the cops did do their jobs.
Allthough that Amish lumberjack showing his c-cup was kind of funny.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on September 14, 2011, 06:16:04 PM
Derrick gets arrested again, this time for pot?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojAVPTYA_mc[/youtube]

Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on September 14, 2011, 06:32:43 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxO8x7D3teo&feature=mh_lolz&list=LLID8VNJllFjRrW8i11OAnKw[/youtube]
Would any free Keener mind explaining why these hoodlums were being supported and the cops were getting so much shit in this video?
I mean come on, these guys were obviously trouble and the cops did do their jobs.
Allthough that Amish lumberjack showing his c-cup was kind of funny.

Those aren't Free Keener's/Stater's. Though one guy claims to be?

This wasn't even shot by anyone involved in the movement. A Keene radio station reporter.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: sillyperson on September 14, 2011, 10:44:38 PM
Those aren't Free Keener's/Stater's.
If FK is mostly about smoking pot on central square (and for most townspeople, that appears to be what it's about), then what's the difference between those jackballs and the "official" FKers?

BTW, sucks about Derrick. He's a cool personality on the show lately.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: anarchir on September 14, 2011, 11:11:51 PM
Without the publicity of continuing to escalate confrontations, both if their streams of income slows down to a trickle.
That's a fact, not a theory.
I've volunteered to buy one-way bus tickets for Ademo and a few select others. Their antics are perfect for someplace hopeless like California or Mass. But those same antics work against us in NH.

Wrong, Ademo and Pete bring a lot of good people to NH.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on September 14, 2011, 11:29:15 PM
Without the publicity of continuing to escalate confrontations, both if their streams of income slows down to a trickle.
That's a fact, not a theory.
I've volunteered to buy one-way bus tickets for Ademo and a few select others. Their antics are perfect for someplace hopeless like California or Mass. But those same antics work against us in NH.

Wrong, Ademo and Pete bring a lot of good people to NH.

Can you name one?
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: anarchir on September 14, 2011, 11:59:39 PM
Without the publicity of continuing to escalate confrontations, both if their streams of income slows down to a trickle.
That's a fact, not a theory.
I've volunteered to buy one-way bus tickets for Ademo and a few select others. Their antics are perfect for someplace hopeless like California or Mass. But those same antics work against us in NH.

Wrong, Ademo and Pete bring a lot of good people to NH.

Can you name one?

Will be me eventually. If we are just spouting out our opinions mine is as good as anyones. They repeatedly leave, gather attention then yoyo back to NH. They arent like Sam or Carroll where they do a bit of work, burn out, then bail. I think these guys will get older, settle down more, and the cycle of people will keep coming.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on September 15, 2011, 12:03:39 AM
Without the publicity of continuing to escalate confrontations, both if their streams of income slows down to a trickle.
That's a fact, not a theory.
I've volunteered to buy one-way bus tickets for Ademo and a few select others. Their antics are perfect for someplace hopeless like California or Mass. But those same antics work against us in NH.

Wrong, Ademo and Pete bring a lot of good people to NH.

Can you name one?

Will be me eventually. If we are just spouting out our opinions mine is as good as anyones. They repeatedly leave, gather attention then yoyo back to NH. They arent like Sam or Carroll where they do a bit of work, burn out, then bail. I think these guys will get older, settle down more, and the cycle of people will keep coming.

Why do you think they burned out?
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: dalebert on September 15, 2011, 12:15:14 AM
Why do you think they burned out?

Not referring to any specific person, but I think the reason for many is because they come here with unrealistic expectations and are impatient. The ones we want are people who come here with plans for building a life here above and beyond activism. For most people, activism can't be your life. A few people have found a way to make a living off of it but even then, I'm not sure how sustainable that can be. Like Jay pointed out, CopBlock seems to keep having to escalate things to keep it dramatic for ratings and support. Ian and Mark are pulling it off pretty well but their plan was likely sustainable even had they not moved here.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: sillyperson on September 15, 2011, 07:28:01 AM
While we're all unique snowflakes, I do see more or less two general trends:

1) people come to join "the nonviolent evolution", which in their minds involves massive peaceful civil disobedience, lots of smoking pot at the police station, followed somehow magically by the fall of the State.
They or their friends do some jail time. They see very little actual change in the nature of wider, non-freestater society. These people burn out quickly.

2) people who get involved in their town's existing civil society. They volunteer at various charities and on town committees. They get involved in the political process and engage in the marketplace of ideas. This means letters to the editor, chatting with neighbors, building friendships.
These people continue their careers in NH. They raise their families in NH. Sometimes work or family will pull them away for a time, but they generally come back.

If politics burns people out... where are the burned-out FSPer politicos? I am looking for them. I can't find them.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Evil Muppet on September 15, 2011, 11:29:59 AM
I read an article a while ago that reported the results of a study conducted by some political science professor on civil disobedience.  More specifically about the media's portrayal of civil disobedience.  The results tended to suggest that civil disobedience was generally not a winning strategy.  Whenever the media reported on civil disobedience they generally focused on the actual acts of disobedience.  They would give scant attention to the message that inspired the civil disobedience if they addressed it at all.  A confrontation, especially a confrontation with the police, increased the likelihood that the event was reported on but also decreased the likelihood that the message of the protest was reported.  

It also seems apparent that the civil disobedience crowd fails to understand the psychology of participants and spectators to such events.  Civil disobedience is the wrong venue for persuasion.  Civil disobedience is confrontation.  The people who are involved in the confrontation begin preparing themselves psychologically for attack and defense.  They start entering into a combative state of mind.  They being to shut themselves off to discussion and instead begin to dig in their heels and defend their own position, even if they know their stance is shaky.  

I also tend to disagree that their 'nonviolent evolution' is nonviolent.  The strategy of civil disobedience is often to encourage violence.  Violence is not a single act but part of a process.  It does not start with the swinging of the fist.  There are many preparatory steps that occur before the actual physical action occurs.  If you watch two dogs start to face off you'll see them begin to take certain stances.  Their ears will flatten against their heads, they will begin to circle.  There will be snarling and teeth bearing.  So what does this 'nonviolent' civil disobedience involve?  The activist simply starts the process of violence.  They create a situation where they can goad another individual into committing a physical act.  
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Level 20 Anklebiter on September 16, 2011, 04:09:04 PM
That's pretty much why I'll never move to NH, ever. Even if there's a job waiting for me there, it's just a shit storm waiting to happen. From the video of central square there makes me like NH less. It looks downright trashy (no offense to Dennis and anyone else that lives in NH, but that's how it looks on video).
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: sillyperson on September 16, 2011, 04:56:55 PM
it's just a shit storm waiting to happen.
Depends on if the FKers grow up, and how many 'normals' take root in the rest of the state.
It helps that FKers tend to be transient, and normals tend to have, you know, house, family, career, kids, yadda
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: SethCohn on September 16, 2011, 06:30:43 PM
That's pretty much why I'll never move to NH, ever. Even if there's a job waiting for me there, it's just a shit storm waiting to happen. From the video of central square there makes me like NH less. It looks downright trashy (no offense to Dennis and anyone else that lives in NH, but that's how it looks on video).

So because you dislike the activism and response and look of Keene NH, you reject the rest of NH, which is entirely different?  Keene, despite Ian's promotion, is a relatively small and minor part of NH.
Plenty of other places to live and do all sort of good things.

So either you are looking for an excuse to stay put, or you just aren't looking past the window of some crappy video and seeing what else NH has to offer.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on September 16, 2011, 06:38:43 PM
So either you are looking for an excuse to stay put, or you just aren't looking past the window of some crappy video and seeing what else NH has to offer.

Tranny shitstorm in 3...2..1...
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Turd Ferguson on September 16, 2011, 07:25:27 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: hellbilly on September 16, 2011, 10:15:24 PM
Is that a "juggalo"?

I think these types are Jugga-Highs.

Classy either way, and my favorite group to hang with at the Waffle House right down next to WalMarts.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Osborne on September 17, 2011, 01:54:22 AM
That's pretty much why I'll never move to NH, ever. Even if there's a job waiting for me there, it's just a shit storm waiting to happen. From the video of central square there makes me like NH less. It looks downright trashy (no offense to Dennis and anyone else that lives in NH, but that's how it looks on video).

So because you dislike the activism and response and look of Keene NH, you reject the rest of NH, which is entirely different?  Keene, despite Ian's promotion, is a relatively small and minor part of NH.
Plenty of other places to live and do all sort of good things.

So either you are looking for an excuse to stay put, or you just aren't looking past the window of some crappy video and seeing what else NH has to offer.

Not only is Keene a small part of NH, but it is entirely isolated from the rest of the state. Yeah, it may look like it is only a few miles from {name another town}, but the only way to travel there is to spend hours traversing a series of twisted two lane roads stuck behind a line of old people who have nothing better to do with their time than to waste yours. It's like a sick Lovecraftian nightmare trying to get anywhere near that place. It might as well not even exist.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Evil Muppet on September 17, 2011, 08:46:12 PM
Miskatonic University has an extension in Keene. 

Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on September 21, 2011, 12:48:50 AM
Allow me to summarize:

(http://izit.org/sites/izit.org/files/1294201057429_27924.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_uA_yuAv6Wug/SdNpN7XLzqI/AAAAAAAAA4c/w8jk8k3N0dg/s400/YOu're+doing+it+wrong.jpg)

Stop wasting your time bitching.  Libertarians cannot be herded.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on October 19, 2011, 09:56:04 PM
So...about that video...
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: One two three on October 20, 2011, 01:08:55 AM
That's pretty much why I'll never move to NH, ever. Even if there's a job waiting for me there, it's just a shit storm waiting to happen. From the video of central square there makes me like NH less. It looks downright trashy (no offense to Dennis and anyone else that lives in NH, but that's how it looks on video).

Not only is there less poverty (both in general and child) in NH than anywhere else in the US, but NH also has the highest median household income, highest high school grad rate, lowest teen prego rate, lowest crime, least restrictive weapons laws, most representative government, most locally controlled government, lowest taxes per capita as a percentage of wages, most libertarian state house of representatives, best place to raise a child, most livable and 4th lowest unemployment, but it is a nice place to live.  

Maybe 1/3 the people live in conservative, Republican leaning suburbs of Boston in southeastern NH and the other 2/3s of the people live in the rest of the state which includes Manchester (and the Manch suburbs), Concord (and the Manch suburbs), Portsmouth (and the greater Portsmouth area) and the rest of NH which outside of Keene, the Lebanon / Hanover area, Conway and Berlin is highly rural.  

To say NH looks trashy is beyond absurd.  However, many of the houses of from the 1800s so they look different from the houses build in the last 40 years.  Additionally, many of the folks with less money purposely neglect the outside of their house in an effort to lower their property taxes.  The insides look fine.  And, in general, the state looks much nicer than most states.  I cannot think of another state in the eastern part of the US that looks as nice as NH except Maine.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on October 20, 2011, 11:21:06 AM
That's pretty much why I'll never move to NH, ever. Even if there's a job waiting for me there, it's just a shit storm waiting to happen. From the video of central square there makes me like NH less. It looks downright trashy (no offense to Dennis and anyone else that lives in NH, but that's how it looks on video).

Not only is there less poverty (both in general in child) in NH than anywhere else in the US, but NH also has the highest median household income, highest high school grad rate, lowest teen prego rate, lowest crime, least restrictive weapons laws, most representative government, most locally controlled government, lowest taxes per capita as a percentage of wages, most libertarian state house of representatives, best place to raise a child, most livable and 4th lowest unemployment, but it is a nice place to live. 

Maybe 1/3 the people live in conservative, Republican leaning suburbs of Boston in southeastern NH and the other 2/3s of the people live in the rest of the state which includes Manchester (and the Manch suburbs), Concord (and the Manch suburbs), Portsmouth (and the greater Portsmouth area) and the rest of NH which outside of Keene, the Lebanon / Hanover area, Conway and Berlin is highly rural.   

To say NH looks trashy is beyond absurd.  However, many of the houses of from the 1800s so they look different from the houses build in the last 40 years.  Additionally, many of the folks with less money purposely neglect the outside of their house in an effort to lower their property taxes.  The insides look fine.  And, in general, the state looks much nicer than most states.  I cannot think of another state in the eastern part of the US that looks as nice as NH except Maine.
How about compared to Colorado?
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on October 20, 2011, 11:58:54 AM
That's pretty much why I'll never move to NH, ever. Even if there's a job waiting for me there, it's just a shit storm waiting to happen. From the video of central square there makes me like NH less. It looks downright trashy (no offense to Dennis and anyone else that lives in NH, but that's how it looks on video).

Not only is there less poverty (both in general in child) in NH than anywhere else in the US, but NH also has the highest median household income, highest high school grad rate, lowest teen prego rate, lowest crime, least restrictive weapons laws, most representative government, most locally controlled government, lowest taxes per capita as a percentage of wages, most libertarian state house of representatives, best place to raise a child, most livable and 4th lowest unemployment, but it is a nice place to live. 

Maybe 1/3 the people live in conservative, Republican leaning suburbs of Boston in southeastern NH and the other 2/3s of the people live in the rest of the state which includes Manchester (and the Manch suburbs), Concord (and the Manch suburbs), Portsmouth (and the greater Portsmouth area) and the rest of NH which outside of Keene, the Lebanon / Hanover area, Conway and Berlin is highly rural.   

To say NH looks trashy is beyond absurd.  However, many of the houses of from the 1800s so they look different from the houses build in the last 40 years.  Additionally, many of the folks with less money purposely neglect the outside of their house in an effort to lower their property taxes.  The insides look fine.  And, in general, the state looks much nicer than most states.  I cannot think of another state in the eastern part of the US that looks as nice as NH except Maine.
How about compared to Colorado?

I've found most places look like crap compared to Colorado.  I wasn't even born here, and still think it's true--particularly in the winter time in places where it snows.  We get enough sun here that we're not all SADS-effected in the winter months, and that shit would drive me bats in most places.  I visited my sister in Indiana and my mother in Missouri several winters back, and it was razor blade city.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: One two three on October 20, 2011, 01:14:46 PM
How about compared to Colorado?

There is a thread about that.  Although, it gets off-topic at some point.  Strange how that happens.
http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=24524.0
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on October 20, 2011, 01:25:14 PM
Hmm...LoveAndPeace seems to be "selling" NH, rather than giving square information.  He seems to substitute "most other states" in the "Colorado" spot of the comparison.  

That, and the question on this BBS seemed to be about how "nice" it is.  I've yet to be anywhere nicer, including Cambridge, which was nice, for the east coast, but I hated the ice storms.

I should state, as I have before, I'm a signatory to the FSP, so it's not like I have an agenda here.  I'd love to have a great excuse to move to NH (my home here be damned) and a really liberal MJ law would be a benefit.  Of course, the latest news is pretty bad everywhere in the US--something to the effect that your gun rights will be taken away if they know you're a patient.  Apparently you have to give up one constitutional right to exercise another?  (At least, that's the way it falls here, since the patient's rights are in the constitution.)

FWIW, Medical Cannabis isn't exactly the strong point it used to be.  True, we still have constitutional support for it, but in many ways the bureaucrats here are pretending they can legislate around the constitutional protections...and since they're getting away with it, I guess they can.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: One two three on October 20, 2011, 02:31:29 PM
It also seems apparent that the civil disobedience crowd fails to understand the psychology of participants and spectators to such events.  Civil disobedience is the wrong venue for persuasion.

That's a great point.  I've been working hard trying to help people in Keene understand about how useful activism works.  

I created this thread http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=5499.0

Quote
I like to think that freedom is a message.  My job as an activism is to spread that message in a somewhat convincing way via pro-liberty media, one-on-one interactions, legislation or whatever other means I decide.  I need to know my audience and think of a way to get across the message of freedom in a way that will reach them positively.

And the whole thread is about how people think and how to do positive activism.  So far, no one has commented on it but it has 100s of views.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: One two three on October 20, 2011, 02:48:27 PM
1) people come to join "the nonviolent evolution", which in their minds involves massive peaceful civil disobedience, lots of smoking pot at the police station, followed somehow magically by the fall of the State.
They or their friends do some jail time. They see very little actual change in the nature of wider, non-freestater society. These people burn out quickly.

Some of us are trying to help with this.

For example, I created this thread, Advice for those considering moving to the Keene area http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=5480.0 and Ian stickied it to the top of the Moving to Keene section of the Free Keene Forum

I also try to keep this thread Excellent point by point way to make real change for liberty in NH http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=4934.0 on the first page of the General section of the Free Keene Forum

Someone else wrote this blog post How to help political activists, without being a political activist http://freekeene.com/2011/10/13/how-to-help-political-activists-without-being-a-political-activist/ and Ian sticked it to the top of the Social Events, Volunteering, Other Activism & Discussion section of the Free Keene Forum
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on October 20, 2011, 02:50:15 PM
Well, if nobody else is going to post it:

(NSFW)
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: John Shaw on October 20, 2011, 03:01:29 PM
Well, if nobody else is going to post it:

(NSFW)


HOLY FUCK I'VE MET HER AND SHE'S REALLY COOL.

Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on October 20, 2011, 03:04:40 PM
I edited your post, cuz I didn't want that link staying up here, lol.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: blackie on October 20, 2011, 03:11:26 PM
http://bbs.freetalklive.com/general/liberty-tattoo-ftw!!/ (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/general/liberty-tattoo-ftw!!/msg606542/#msg606542)

Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on October 20, 2011, 03:27:44 PM
Oh u.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: anarchir on October 20, 2011, 04:31:43 PM
Lol lets just pretend its the same person because its funnier that way.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on October 20, 2011, 04:34:52 PM
Lol lets just pretend its the same person because its funnier that way.

Oh yeah, it totally wasn't her.

>.>
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: John Shaw on October 20, 2011, 04:36:30 PM
Lol lets just pretend its the same person because its funnier that way.

There's no way it wasn't her.

"Live Free Or Die" across the chest, Stars, arm tats. Same face, same kooky hair. No possible way it was someone else.

Too many identical tats to not be the same person.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Osborne on October 20, 2011, 04:47:21 PM
I don't know. If you run across a video of a dude with a supply-and-demand tattoo jacking onto a portrait of Mises, it totally isn't me.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: One two three on October 20, 2011, 04:49:00 PM
I guess there are strip clubs in NH, but this one is best avoided, http://www.unionleader.com/article/20111020/NEWS03/710209955
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Fred on October 20, 2011, 04:56:29 PM
leave the coke fuckers alone already.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on October 20, 2011, 04:58:27 PM
Well, if nobody else is going to post it:

(NSFW)

Repost?
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: John Shaw on October 20, 2011, 05:15:35 PM
Well, if nobody else is going to post it:

(NSFW)

Repost?

It was pretty awesome. PM me
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Fred on October 20, 2011, 05:20:20 PM
bitch
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: John Shaw on October 20, 2011, 05:24:29 PM
bitch

More than meets the eye. Quote me before you judge.

Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Bill Brasky on October 20, 2011, 05:47:52 PM
I'm totally gonna jerk off to that.

Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Fred on October 20, 2011, 05:51:15 PM
damn - you guys!  and what does Hidden mean?
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: John Shaw on October 20, 2011, 05:53:31 PM
damn - you guys!  and what does Hidden mean?

I have posted two posts before this one. The first one has a secret. If you figure it out you will get a prize.

PROTIP

FONT: FLYSPECK 2
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Fred on October 20, 2011, 05:57:25 PM
I see the house in Colorado and the bitcoin crap - guess I'm too dumb to get that shit....
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: One two three on October 20, 2011, 10:12:17 PM
You have to be a forum member to see all of the pix but sign up is easy.
http://www.keithandthegirl.com/forums/f6/katgs-hottest-girl-top-10-a-16699/
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: anarchir on October 20, 2011, 11:54:06 PM
Lol lets just pretend its the same person because its funnier that way.

There's no way it wasn't her.

"Live Free Or Die" across the chest, Stars, arm tats. Same face, same kooky hair. No possible way it was someone else.

Too many identical tats to not be the same person.

Wait, what. I stopped watching the video once I realized what it was exactly.

Too many lols that you stumbled across that and it was....
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on October 23, 2011, 09:33:48 AM
LULZ

I OWN UP TO MY SHIT MOTHERFUCKERS....................... and you all know I post here so why not approach me directly instead of being scardey girls...

I will be out and about today and a lot of you know where I will be if you want an autograph!



Famous on the internets bitchez!!
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on October 23, 2011, 09:50:37 AM
Lol lets just pretend its the same person because its funnier that way.

There's no way it wasn't her.

"Live Free Or Die" across the chest, Stars, arm tats. Same face, same kooky hair. No possible way it was someone else.

Too many identical tats to not be the same person.

Wait, what. I stopped watching the video once I realized what it was exactly.

Too many lols that you stumbled across that and it was....


Considering the incredible volume of 'videos' watched by liberty 'lovers' I'd say this 'discovery' was all but inevitable.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on October 23, 2011, 09:52:07 AM
You guys are late to the party... don't think you are the first ones to have made this discovery  :lol:
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: SethCohn on October 23, 2011, 10:11:38 AM
You guys are late to the party... don't think you are the first ones to have made this discovery  :lol:

Chocolate syrup FTW.   :lol:

Good for you, Robin!
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on October 23, 2011, 10:17:17 AM
inb4 Michele Seven


PS PORCFEST RULES!
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on October 23, 2011, 10:18:42 AM
You guys are late to the party... don't think you are the first ones to have made this discovery  :lol:

Chocolate syrup FTW.   :lol:

Good for you, Robin!

Why thank you sir!
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on October 23, 2011, 11:22:00 AM
LULZ

I OWN UP TO MY SHIT MOTHERFUCKERS....................... and you all know I post here so why not approach me directly instead of being scardey girls...

I will be out and about today and a lot of you know where I will be if you want an autograph!



Famous on the internets bitchez!!

I want one robin! you're my favorite bbs member!
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: John Shaw on October 23, 2011, 12:07:58 PM
<<<Was being all discrete and shit because he didn't know the score.

Well good on you, R-Master G, and well played. You seem to have developed a fanbase on the BBS yo.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Bill Brasky on October 23, 2011, 08:33:35 PM
Got any more? 
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on October 24, 2011, 05:27:48 PM
if you are going to register to see the pics, you may as well vote me into the final round to see more  :D

http://www.keithandthegirl.com/forums/f6/katgs-hottest-girl-top-10-a-16699/ (http://www.keithandthegirl.com/forums/f6/katgs-hottest-girl-top-10-a-16699/)
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on October 24, 2011, 06:25:04 PM
p.s. soapy boobs

register and vote muthafuckas
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: latebloomer on October 24, 2011, 08:22:39 PM
p.s. soapy boobs

register and vote muthafuckas

I would totally do it, but hate registering b/c of spam. If I can remember the email addy I created just for such things, I'll go vote. (What do you win?)
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on October 24, 2011, 08:31:38 PM
tickets to porcfest  :D

Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Bill Brasky on October 24, 2011, 08:49:44 PM
Voted. 

Its a tight race. 

But as I always say to risque women, you're gonna have to work a little harder than that to give me a nosebleed.

(actually, I never say that)

Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: latebloomer on October 24, 2011, 09:04:44 PM
Voted!
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: anarchir on October 24, 2011, 09:35:47 PM
p.s. soapy boobs

register and vote muthafuckas

I would totally do it, but hate registering b/c of spam. If I can remember the email addy I created just for such things, I'll go vote. (What do you win?)

Do a google search for GuerrillaMail.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: alaric89 on October 25, 2011, 10:11:02 AM
Call me stupid, but I couldn't figure out how to vote.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: latebloomer on October 25, 2011, 11:14:48 AM
Call me stupid, but I couldn't figure out how to vote.

If you're registered & logged in, the polling buttons appear. Also, all the pics show up. I couldn't figure out who I was voting for until I was logged in & all the pics displayed.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on October 25, 2011, 11:16:04 AM
voting is over...

also may I comment that there is not much DRAMA involved in this thread anymore... better find something more interesting to gossip about and get it back on the right track.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on October 25, 2011, 11:17:32 AM
voting is over...

also may I comment that there is not much DRAMA involved in this thread anymore... better find something more interesting to gossip about and get it back on the right track.
It's dramatic that I still haven't received an autograph from you Robin. (although that wouldn't count because I'm not in the "Free State").
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on October 25, 2011, 02:24:03 PM
haha I can mail you one
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on October 26, 2011, 06:21:52 PM
voting is over...

also may I comment that there is not much DRAMA involved in this thread anymore... better find something more interesting to gossip about and get it back on the right track.

Let's plan a murder, or start a religion. (not really)
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on October 28, 2011, 11:13:54 AM
come on I know there are people in the shire doing crazy shit..... lets talk about it while they aren't around. you know, like we normally do here. or did i scare everyone off by not giving a fuck that people found my shit on the internets?

mwahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: MOE from between St. Joe's River and the railroad tracks on October 28, 2011, 11:19:09 AM
<------------

What is that you're eating? I want some later when I'm done eating these pizza rolls yo.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on October 28, 2011, 12:30:27 PM
Here's the video of Ian that Mark was talking about on air the other night:

Constitutional Peasants (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvKIWjnEPNY#ws)
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: anarchir on October 28, 2011, 01:38:34 PM
Some people for our Occupy Event are going to be putting on that skit. So awesome.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: anarchir on October 28, 2011, 01:48:36 PM
Here is some news: "The Free State Projects Liberty Forum in Nashua, NH in February"

Jack from The Survival Podcast is going to the Liberty Forum yaaaaay.  You lucky people.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on October 28, 2011, 06:16:22 PM
<------------

What is that you're eating? I want some later when I'm done eating these pizza rolls yo.

Doner Kebab with feta and extra sauuuuce
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on October 28, 2011, 06:17:39 PM
Here is some news: "The Free State Projects Liberty Forum in Nashua, NH in February"

Jack from The Survival Podcast is going to the Liberty Forum yaaaaay.  You lucky people.
Liberty Forum FTW! This will be my first one EVAH!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: anarchir on October 29, 2011, 12:32:39 AM
Here is some news: "The Free State Projects Liberty Forum in Nashua, NH in February"

Jack from The Survival Podcast is going to the Liberty Forum yaaaaay.  You lucky people.
Liberty Forum FTW! This will be my first one EVAH!!!!!!!!!!

I am completely jealous. Take lots of pics please.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on October 30, 2011, 07:11:15 PM
if you are going to register to see the pics, you may as well vote me into the final round to see more  :D

http://www.keithandthegirl.com/forums/f6/katgs-hottest-girl-top-10-a-16699/ (http://www.keithandthegirl.com/forums/f6/katgs-hottest-girl-top-10-a-16699/)

Last chance to vote for the winner! Robin is currently behind the leader, so YOUR VOTE COUNTS (lol)!
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: MOE from between St. Joe's River and the railroad tracks on October 30, 2011, 09:17:47 PM
What the eff is this?
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on October 31, 2011, 09:16:57 AM
What the eff is this?
it's your mom
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: MOE from between St. Joe's River and the railroad tracks on October 31, 2011, 03:30:01 PM
Quote
it's your mom

CRY
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on November 01, 2011, 12:08:57 AM
So, I heard Curtis got called a cunt to his face for the crap he apparently pulled on the KATG forum.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: One two three on November 01, 2011, 05:10:24 AM
Someone traveled to NH to curse at Curtis?
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on November 01, 2011, 02:14:35 PM
I was called a stupid selfish cunt behind my back recently, I wish it was to my face, I like it when people put on a good show and dance for me.

 :D

Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Turd Ferguson on November 01, 2011, 02:20:36 PM
I was called a stupid selfish cunt behind my back recently, I wish it was to my face, I like it when people put on a good show and dance for me.

 :D




Ahhhh, the ol' Stupid Selfish Cunt dance............

Almost as good as the Hammer dance...... its right up there.


(http://www.gifbin.com/bin/1236681958_hammer-time.gif)
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Fred on November 01, 2011, 04:05:24 PM
you...
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on November 02, 2011, 10:30:38 AM
So, I heard Curtis got called a cunt to his face for the crap he apparently pulled on the KATG forum.

do what?
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on November 02, 2011, 11:06:46 AM
So, I heard Curtis got called a cunt to his face for the crap he apparently pulled on the KATG forum.

do what?
He is talking about Buzz...
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: sillyperson on November 02, 2011, 02:19:07 PM
He is talking about Buzz...
Bad idea. She will fuck him up.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Bill Brasky on November 02, 2011, 02:27:07 PM
voting is over...

also may I comment that there is not much DRAMA involved in this thread anymore... better find something more interesting to gossip about and get it back on the right track.

Let's plan a murder, or start a religion. (not really)

The bus ride with books in my lap gave me a hard on. 

Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on November 02, 2011, 04:24:02 PM
voting is over...

also may I comment that there is not much DRAMA involved in this thread anymore... better find something more interesting to gossip about and get it back on the right track.

Let's plan a murder, or start a religion. (not really)

The bus ride with books in my lap gave me a hard on.  


Out here on the perimeter there are no stars.  Out here we is stoned.  Immaculate.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: sillyperson on November 02, 2011, 05:13:21 PM
Out here on the perimeter there are no stars.  Out here we is stoned.  Immaculate.
When I hear Jim's voice in my head reciting this, then I know I am there
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on November 02, 2011, 08:13:47 PM
He is talking about Buzz...
Bad idea. She will fuck him up.
Buzz called Curtis a cunt, no one was talking about her  :D

and I agree, I think Buzz could kick just about anyones ass.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on November 03, 2011, 12:14:39 AM
He is talking about Buzz...
Bad idea. She will fuck him up.
Buzz called Curtis a cunt, no one was talking about her  :D


ha ha! I had a shit eating grin on my face and tried to give her a hug.

Whats with the shit stirring, Boner Joe? Its one thing to report drama, quite another to create it....
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on November 03, 2011, 06:17:50 AM
I love how you try and turn this around on me. Typical.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on November 03, 2011, 12:07:46 PM
I love how you try and turn this around on me. Typical.

 :lol:

Yeah, because you totally didn't post that video to try and stir some shit up... You were just providing free advertising services for me because you are such a nice guy right?
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on November 03, 2011, 12:15:16 PM
I love how you try and turn this around on me. Typical.

 :lol:

um, even though I've NEVER done anything to you, it seems you've decided to weigh in on drama, not just report it.
The 'cunt calling' episode, IN CONTEXT, was not drama, but your one-sided reporting makes it seem so.

You've also recently taken the position that you feel I'd never apologize, even if an apology was warranted.
You say you base this on what you know about me, and whats been reported to you, but you haven't exactly taken the time to ask me about anything, even though I  make myself available to you. It certainly seems to me that you've become a partisan.

And yea, making videos which are 'private' is not drama, but posting them and sending them to friends IS the creation of drama. You've become a queen. What happened? Was outside drama not happening fast enough to suit you, so you felt you had to then get involved and speed up the process?
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: John Shaw on November 03, 2011, 12:21:34 PM
I love how you try and turn this around on me. Typical.

 :lol:

um, even though I've NEVER done anything to you, it seems you've decided to weigh in on drama, not just report it.
The 'cunt calling' episode, IN CONTEXT, was not drama, but your one-sided reporting makes it seem so.

You've also recently taken the position that you feel I'd never apologize, even if an apology was warranted.
You say you base this on what you know about me, and whats been reported to you, but you haven't exactly taken the time to ask me about anything, even though I  make myself available to you. It certainly seems to me that you've become a partisan.

And yea, making videos which are 'private' is not drama, but posting them and sending them to friends IS the creation of drama. You've become a queen. What happened? Was outside drama not happening fast enough to suit you, so you felt you had to then get involved and speed up the process?

None of my business, but he deleted the link to the video within five minutes or so of someone else seeing it. And he deleted the link from my quote block (In my response to it) as well.

Just sayin'
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on November 03, 2011, 12:29:39 PM
so it's ok to assume I am not trying to cause drama if I find a video of you guys jerking off and post it where everyone you know can see it, and then delete it 5 minutes later after it has been seen?

I like to keep my personal life and my business life separate, if people in my personal life know what I do I have no problem with it, however, I prefer to have "the talk" with them myself about what I do for work when I fell  I can trust that person to be mature about it.




In other news now that everyone knows I am a fucking amateur internet porn star, either buy my shit or move along to find something else entertaining to occupy yourselves with.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: John Shaw on November 03, 2011, 12:32:42 PM
so it's ok to assume I am not trying to cause drama if I find a video of you guys jerking off and post it where everyone you know can see it, and then delete it 5 minutes later after it has been seen?

I like to keep my personal life and my business life separate, if people in my personal life know what I do I have no problem with it, however, I prefer to have "the talk" with them myself about what I do for work when I fell  I can trust that person to be mature about it.

Whoa hey, I was just chiming in with a lil' perspective yo. Wasn't trying to draw ire.

I'm pretty sure all I've said about this whole thing was "Hey, I know her and she's pretty cool." and "Yeah, that's her" without I think even mentioning your name yo.

I was just Saying maybe BJ realized he shouldn't have posted the vid and deleted it.

*Runs out of room crying*
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on November 03, 2011, 12:43:07 PM
Dude wasn't trying to make you cry. LOL

I just think we should remember that most names on a forum are real people, and a lot of us know each other in real life. I can not imagine BJ would have a screening of my video at the KAC with me in the room... or would he?? hmmmmmm.....
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: alaric89 on November 03, 2011, 12:46:40 PM
I thought Robin's whole issue was that stupid Keith & TG contest thing. If she is making private movies that is really cool. I was wondering why no one had started making adult films in NH, seemed like the sort of thing freedom lovers would endorse. She should be paid for her work, lets not free link and sandbag fellow travelers. I am getting discouraged with liberty people who don't like to pay for anything.
John Stagliano is one of my libertarian heroes.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: John Shaw on November 03, 2011, 12:50:32 PM
I am getting discouraged with liberty people who don't like to pay for anything.

Oh you have no idea.

S'why I'll never focus my labor on selling shit to liberty people.

My shit will always be liberty oriented, but cheap fuckers are cheap and I'd rather sell to people who pay for my efforts.

Can't make content without getting paid for it.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on November 03, 2011, 01:31:31 PM
I am getting discouraged with liberty people who don't like to pay for anything.

Oh you have no idea.

S'why I'll never focus my labor on selling shit to liberty people.

My shit will always be liberty oriented, but cheap fuckers are cheap and I'd rather sell to people who pay for my efforts.

Can't make content without getting paid for it.

^THIS


I have never marketed specifically to "liberty folks" because I make way more money marketing to weird old russian guys and lonely computer geeks who make me the silliest fan videos ever (leave it up to the cheap asses to find the free low quality old as dirt promo shit when there is a ton of other awesome high quality fetish content i have made, of course that stuff costs money so I assume that is why no one found it lulz)

I have preached liberty to customers of mine who seem to get what I am saying but I know better than to try to create a paysite or something that is marketed strictly to libertarians and anarchists hahahahahaha cheap bastards!
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on November 03, 2011, 02:19:07 PM
Are we really still talking about this porn video?

I bring up Curtis acting like an ass, and the subject is turned back into that shit. That's why I said you were turning it around against me. Instead of addressing his actions, he brings up other unrelated shit to distract the focus. I did not create this drama, I'm just reporting on it. Because someone pissing people off enough to hate the FSP is appropriate drama for this thread.

I have already had a discussion with you in private about this video. Can we just drop it and get back to more important drama? Thx.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: alaric89 on November 03, 2011, 02:29:34 PM
We are not allowed to talk about how cheap liberty people are o' "only pertinent posting" one.? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
I was just looking at YOUR fucking handywork on my violence thread then I go home to read you bitching on this thread about fairly innocent non-issue posts.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: John Shaw on November 03, 2011, 02:33:05 PM
We are not allowed to talk about how cheap liberty people are o' "only pertinent posting" one.? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
I was just looking at YOUR fucking handywork on my violence thread then I go home to read you bitching on this thread about fairly innocent non-issue posts.

Huh? I don't get ya.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on November 03, 2011, 02:35:45 PM
We are not allowed to talk about how cheap liberty people are o' "only pertinent posting" one.? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

?

Don't troll and act like you don't know what I was referring to.

And I don't think liberty people are necessarily cheap. There's just a limited market for most things out there. For instance, lots of people want gyros to eat at Porcfest. Almost nobody wanted to eat a salad.

Not everyone is into B horror movies or "Suicide Girls".
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on November 03, 2011, 02:45:10 PM
You've also recently taken the position that you feel I'd never apologize, even if an apology was warranted.
You say you base this on what you know about me, and whats been reported to you, but you haven't exactly taken the time to ask me about anything, even though I  make myself available to you. It certainly seems to me that you've become a partisan.

OK Curtis. I'll ask. Why haven't you apologized to Michele Seven for threatening to burn her house down or committing assault against her child? Can you give me any reason at all? And if it applies, what was the terrible thing(s) she did to you to give you a reason to not feel like apologizing?
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Osborne on November 03, 2011, 03:00:12 PM
My wife will never let me start a porn company, so I'll just throw this out there:

"Porcuporn"

Domain not currently registered.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on November 03, 2011, 03:10:46 PM
You've also recently taken the position that you feel I'd never apologize, even if an apology was warranted.
You say you base this on what you know about me, and whats been reported to you, but you haven't exactly taken the time to ask me about anything, even though I  make myself available to you. It certainly seems to me that you've become a partisan.

OK Curtis. I'll ask. Why haven't you apologized to Michele Seven for threatening to burn her house down or committing assault against her child? Can you give me any reason at all? And if it applies, what was the terrible thing(s) she did to you to give you a reason to not feel like apologizing?

Assaulting her child? This is news to me, I never once witnessed or heard anything about that.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on November 03, 2011, 03:12:11 PM
My wife will never let me start a porn company, so I'll just throw this out there:

"Porcuporn"

Domain not currently registered.

I was thinking more along the lines of "fucking for freedom"

 :lol:
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: MOE from between St. Joe's River and the railroad tracks on November 03, 2011, 03:12:33 PM
Quote
"Porcuporn"

A bucket full of lulz
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on November 03, 2011, 03:19:03 PM
You've also recently taken the position that you feel I'd never apologize, even if an apology was warranted.
You say you base this on what you know about me, and whats been reported to you, but you haven't exactly taken the time to ask me about anything, even though I  make myself available to you. It certainly seems to me that you've become a partisan.

OK Curtis. I'll ask. Why haven't you apologized to Michele Seven for threatening to burn her house down

Took you long enough. Answer: I HAVE. PROFUSELY. We both apologized to each other over and over with regards to that horrible fight we had that day, made up, swore to never treat each other like that, again, etc. We then likely went inside her house and fixed lunch together... We stayed together for a couple/few weeks, after that, and I broke up with her because she never changed (except to get meaner) each time we fought (which continued to happen with astonishing regularity)

Dont you feel silly for assuming one side of the story was the honest truth?

or committing assault against her child?

Um, I hope this comes as no surprise to you (now), but this is the first time I've heard I've been blamed of this!


I've never assaulted any of her children. In fact I didnt even get between her two boys, when they were fighting (Tommy usually got drafted to do that). Not only have I never assaulted her children, but she trusted me enough AFTER we broke up for good, to come over and 'babysit' her boys while she was away. You may remember a Porc411 call from me, that day, as someone (I assume a do-gooder neighbor) called the cops to the house, with a claim that I was hurting the boys, and kicking the dog (I did kick the dog, softly on the butt, when I was getting him out of the street/traffic, one day. It was not animal abuse, I love/loved Blue). The boys, even though one does not/did not like me, told the TRUTH to the police, that I had never put a hand on them. I've not had the opportunity to assault them, since, so I doubt the claim is it happened more than a month after we broke up.

Any other questions you should have asked me long ago?
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: sillyperson on November 03, 2011, 03:23:16 PM
My wife will never let me start a porn company, so I'll just [...]
I do believe you may be on to a new internet meme, there

"fucking for freedom"
I believe I coined that phrase  :D







Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: John Shaw on November 03, 2011, 03:25:43 PM
Seems like "Fucking Freedom" would be punchier.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on November 03, 2011, 03:31:23 PM
Any other questions you should have asked me long ago?

Sure, but I have either not asked the complaining party personally to verify the claim, or feel they still warrant privacy at this time.

And I do take into account that most of these rumors are being forwarded by Michele, but besides her stories or anything she's relayed, I've still heard enough through others besides her that I have made the decision to not want to associate with you. Hence why I'm not Facebook friends with you, Robin, or Tommy. And I avoid situations where I think you'll be present.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: alaric89 on November 03, 2011, 03:35:25 PM
Seems like "Fucking Freedom" would be punchier.
When I surf porn I use a search engine or a proxy. If someone is going to make educational porn the name should be subtle. "Fucking freedom" sounds like you are mad at it, like "fucking dog" after it pukes on the floor.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Turd Ferguson on November 03, 2011, 03:51:11 PM
Him - AHHHHHH!!! HERE COMES THE FREEDOM, BABY!!!



Her - Just dont get it in my hair.

Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on November 03, 2011, 03:52:29 PM
Any other questions you should have asked me long ago?

I've still heard enough through others besides her that I have made the decision to not want to associate with you. Hence why I'm not Facebook friends with you, Robin, or Tommy. And I avoid situations where I think you'll be present.


Really? What else have you been told about me that leads you to this conclusion? As I've mentioned, I've never so much as called you a bad name, let alone hurt you.

And why do you also hold Robin & Tommy accountable for my rumored actions? That seems quite unfair.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Fred on November 03, 2011, 03:53:48 PM
so it's ok to assume I am not trying to cause drama if I find a video of you guys jerking off and post it where everyone you know can see it, and then delete it 5 minutes later after it has been seen?

I like to keep my personal life and my business life separate, if people in my personal life know what I do I have no problem with it, however, I prefer to have "the talk" with them myself about what I do for work when I fell  I can trust that person to be mature about it.




In other news now that everyone knows I am a fucking amateur internet porn star, either buy my shit or move along to find something else entertaining to occupy yourselves with.

That vid was on a free site.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Turd Ferguson on November 03, 2011, 04:07:08 PM
.........if I find a video of you guys jerking off and post it where everyone you know can see


Honestly, I wouldnt mind at all. All I ask is that you use a fish eye lens to help accentuate my nether regions on the close ups.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: alaric89 on November 03, 2011, 04:14:56 PM
Him - AHHHHHH!!! HERE COMES THE FREEDOM, BABY!!!



Her - Just dont get it in my hair.


And he would comply because that hair is her property.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Turd Ferguson on November 03, 2011, 04:19:55 PM
Him - AHHHHHH!!! HERE COMES THE FREEDOM, BABY!!!



Her - Just dont get it in my hair.


And he would comply because that hair is her property.

Exactly

Porn for arousal AND educational purposes.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Osborne on November 03, 2011, 04:45:35 PM
(http://memegenerator.net/cache/instances/400x/10/10879/11140640.jpg)
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Turd Ferguson on November 03, 2011, 05:07:59 PM
(http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp71/quickmike1969_photo/dirk-diggler.jpg)
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on November 03, 2011, 05:09:45 PM
In other news now that everyone knows I am a fucking amateur internet porn star, either buy my shit or move along to find something else entertaining to occupy yourselves with.

Only because you mention it, I'm wondering how one gets paid and retains "amateur" status.

There is one other thing.  If you sell videos of yourself, I'm not sure how you would ever expect people not to know you're a person who does said videos.


Not trolling you or anything; just making observations.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: One two three on November 03, 2011, 05:19:27 PM
I was wondering why no one had started making adult films in NH

It's been happening for years.  I'm not going to name names but several people have been involved with different projects in different locations.

I never thought of it as a big deal.  I'm not sure how successful any of the projects I know about have been.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on November 03, 2011, 05:38:03 PM
I was wondering why no one had started making adult films in NH

It's been happening for years.  I'm not going to name names but several people have been involved with different projects in different locations.

I never thought of it as a big deal.  I'm not sure how successful any of the projects I know about have been.

I think pr0n is a lot easier to do in LA, with all the media, manufacturing and shipping that already goes on there.  Of course, California's been actively discouraging free enterprise for a long time, so someplace near Nashua might make an interesting libertarian media capital (I picked it for its tech rep.)
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on November 03, 2011, 05:42:20 PM
so someplace near Nashua might make an interesting libertarian media capital (I picked it for its tech rep.)

It's close enough for the border for travelers, too.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: alaric89 on November 03, 2011, 06:36:18 PM
I was wondering why no one had started making adult films in NH

It's been happening for years.  I'm not going to name names but several people have been involved with different projects in different locations.

I never thought of it as a big deal.  I'm not sure how successful any of the projects I know about have been.

Good. It isn't a BIG deal. I want to live in a world where Robin M. and your unnamed names can shout from the fucking rooftops with pride what they are working on and no one judges or creeps on them or even considers doing so. I also want them to earn a shitload of mainstream cash.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on November 03, 2011, 07:22:49 PM
Ive successfully kept my "job" out of my personal life for years.

I retain amateur status because I do not shoot with professional studios. I make gonzo porn, I am a producer/evil advertising genius/actress/badass motherfucker! I do it all and a lot of the time I keep ALL of my profits because I do not get "fucked" (yeah i said fucked haha) by big porn companies who pay their actors/actresses pennies compared to what they make on their work!!



This no longer concerns me because I am wasting time discussing it. If you have a genuine interest in what I do, pm me and I can discuss it further.

To anyone who is just gawking.... buy some private webcam shows, some flicks or some hot ass photo sets or GTFO my porn career.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on November 03, 2011, 07:32:43 PM
Ive successfully kept my "job" out of my personal life for years.

I retain amateur status because I do not shoot with professional studios. I make gonzo porn, I am a producer/evil advertising genius/actress/badass motherfucker! I do it all and a lot of the time I keep ALL of my profits because I do not get "fucked" (yeah i said fucked haha) by big porn companies who pay their actors/actresses pennies compared to what they make on their work!!



This no longer concerns me because I am wasting time discussing it. If you have a genuine interest in what I do, pm me and I can discuss it further.

To anyone who is just gawking.... buy some private webcam shows, some flicks or some hot ass photo sets or GTFO my porn career.

Just a quick comment here, I think many people here do support your entrepreneurship, but don't know where to go to support you financially.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on November 03, 2011, 07:34:13 PM
if people feel so inclined to purchase my goods, they can pm me, shit, ask me in person, i will give you a list of places you can find me
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on November 03, 2011, 08:09:41 PM
Any other questions you should have asked me long ago?

I've still heard enough through others besides her that I have made the decision to not want to associate with you. Hence why I'm not Facebook friends with you, Robin, or Tommy. And I avoid situations where I think you'll be present.


Really? What else have you been told about me that leads you to this conclusion? As I've mentioned, I've never so much as called you a bad name, let alone hurt you.

And why do you also hold Robin & Tommy accountable for my rumored actions? That seems quite unfair.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on November 03, 2011, 08:14:08 PM
I'm not going to explain myself.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: sillyperson on November 04, 2011, 12:14:24 AM
I'm not going to explain myself.
Thanks heaven for small favors  ;)
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: ox on November 04, 2011, 12:49:56 AM
You're a porn star? No wonder you're so cool.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: alaric89 on November 04, 2011, 12:58:02 AM
I'm not going to explain myself.
So you want Sovereign Curtis to explain all these nasty accusations. He seems to, then you are to high and mighty to answer a question?
I agree that you were a good person by bringing this stuff forward BJ, but try and stay consistant, simply so people can make honest judgements.
You're a porn star? No wonder you're so cool.
Denis does porn too? Jeeze that guy works a lot.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on November 04, 2011, 08:58:29 AM
I'm not going to explain myself.
So you want Sovereign Curtis to explain all these nasty accusations. He seems to, then you are to high and mighty to answer a question?

I didn't want him to have to explain anything, he was the one who kept bugging me about it.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: alaric89 on November 04, 2011, 10:09:24 AM
I'm not going to explain myself.
So you want Sovereign Curtis to explain all these nasty accusations. He seems to, then you are to high and mighty to answer a question?

I didn't want him to have to explain anything, he was the one who kept bugging me about it.

Are we really still talking about this porn video?

I bring up Curtis acting like an ass, and the subject is turned back into that shit. That's why I said you were turning it around against me. Instead of addressing his actions, he brings up other unrelated shit to distract the focus. I did not create this drama, I'm just reporting on it. Because someone pissing people off enough to hate the FSP is appropriate drama for this thread.

I have already had a discussion with you in private about this video. Can we just drop it and get back to more important drama? Thx.

You've also recently taken the position that you feel I'd never apologize, even if an apology was warranted.
You say you base this on what you know about me, and whats been reported to you, but you haven't exactly taken the time to ask me about anything, even though I  make myself available to you. It certainly seems to me that you've become a partisan.

OK Curtis. I'll ask. Why haven't you apologized to Michele Seven for threatening to burn her house down or committing assault against her child? Can you give me any reason at all? And if it applies, what was the terrible thing(s) she did to you to give you a reason to not feel like apologizing?

Did I miss something?
Truth to tell I would also like to know why one might want to snub those other people. I think it is a fair question.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on November 04, 2011, 10:31:04 AM
Dude, if you ain't in NH, none of this applies or matters to you besides giving me a hard time.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: alaric89 on November 04, 2011, 10:47:15 AM
It is nothing personal. I like to get to the bottom of things. I have heard the crap from other sources. I do deal with and support people from NH, I am a FSP member and I do intend to move there.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: MOE from between St. Joe's River and the railroad tracks on November 04, 2011, 11:08:38 AM
Quote
To anyone who is just gawking.... buy some private webcam shows, some flicks or some hot ass photo sets or GTFO my porn career.

Where does one go to gawk!?
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on November 04, 2011, 11:38:18 AM
Dude, if you ain't in NH, none of this applies or matters to you besides giving me a hard time.

oh geez. You stoke the drama thread from outside NH for years, and now you wanna be all "if you're not here, this doesn't apply or matter to you"?!? Where was that same restraint when you were spreading everyone else's gossip? Now that you're the focus it shouldn't be discussed??

Come on, BJ. I've NEVER done anything to harm you. I HAVE responded to your questions truthfully. I DID NOT do the things you mentioned me being accused of (or I did in the case of the apology). But you still want to hold gossip against me? And against Robin and Tommy?? I think I've acted in good faith, much moreso than the people spreading rumors about me. Can't you give me a slight benefit of the doubt?

What other silly shit have I been accused of? Tell me so I can tell you the truth, please.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: SethCohn on November 04, 2011, 12:01:05 PM
Making porn in NH is legal (kinda sorta):
http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/offer-to-tape-sex-nullifies-conviction (http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/offer-to-tape-sex-nullifies-conviction)
http://www.courts.state.nh.us/supreme/opinions/2008/theri131.pdf (http://www.courts.state.nh.us/supreme/opinions/2008/theri131.pdf)

Just don't enjoy yourself while doing it.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on November 04, 2011, 12:34:53 PM
Making porn in NH is legal (kinda sorta):
http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/offer-to-tape-sex-nullifies-conviction (http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/offer-to-tape-sex-nullifies-conviction)
http://www.courts.state.nh.us/supreme/opinions/2008/theri131.pdf (http://www.courts.state.nh.us/supreme/opinions/2008/theri131.pdf)

Just don't enjoy yourself while doing it.

So, I guess NH is saying "It is better to give than to receive."
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on November 04, 2011, 12:47:45 PM
What other silly shit have I been accused of? Tell me so I can tell you the truth, please.

Dude, I've heard so many more people tell me stuff in the last couple of days since opening my mouth about it, it's kind of pointless to discuss it with you at this point. Am I doing anything constructive by arguing with, what all the evidence stacks up to be, a sociopath that has an excuse for everything he's been accused of? Not really.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on November 04, 2011, 01:55:35 PM
What other silly shit have I been accused of? Tell me so I can tell you the truth, please.

Dude, I've heard so many more people tell me stuff in the last couple of days since opening my mouth about it, it's kind of pointless to discuss it with you at this point. Am I doing anything constructive by arguing with, what all the evidence stacks up to be, a sociopath that has an excuse for everything he's been accused of? Not really.

1. So you've heard enough hearsay in the last few days, you dont think its worth asking the subject of those rumors... Makes sense...

2. What evidence? This rumor-mongering you will not share? Hearsay is not evidence.

3. A SOCIOPATH?!? WTF is this? You FINALLY ask me about two rumors and I TELL THE TRUTH, and somehow that lends MORE credence to the people spreading rumors and makes ME a sociopath?!? Holy FSM!
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on November 04, 2011, 02:00:20 PM
 :roll:
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on November 04, 2011, 02:00:49 PM
The stories have progressively gotten more and more distorted and outlandish over the past year. It is not normal to hang onto things for that long and continually tell them to everyone you meet.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on November 04, 2011, 02:01:38 PM
The stories have progressively gotten more and more distorted and outlandish over the past year.

Oh, but I've heard new, fresh ones!
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on November 04, 2011, 02:04:15 PM
The stories have progressively gotten more and more distorted and outlandish over the past year.

Oh, but I've heard new, fresh ones!

That you will hold against me, but not share...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociopathy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociopathy)

Which am I? Anti-social or psychopathic? What is your evidence for your choice?
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on November 04, 2011, 02:07:44 PM
Let's take our gloves off and let the shit fly. Instead of saying "omg someone said something about you, but I aint tellin". This is just like high school, where perfectly normal people got bad reputations because people assumed things without actually asking or getting to know the person the rumors were about.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: One two three on November 04, 2011, 02:14:50 PM
I'll bring some real drama.  So Curtis was at an event in Keene.  I showed up at the event in a Rancid hoodie with thumb holes.  Kind of like this http://www.gear.com/p/kuhl-scandinavian-hoodie-mens (http://www.gear.com/p/kuhl-scandinavian-hoodie-mens) but they were DIY punk holes (they happened naturally after years of wear) and not corporate clothing holes.  This has been a common style of dress for folks in the punk/ emo / scene world for what, decades?

Curtis acted liked he was completely shocked.  He acted as though he had never seem thumb holes on a hoodie before and he highly disapproved of my hoodie.

I was extremely shocked that Curtis acted the way he did.  I am still devastated by his lack of understanding of music/ underground fashion.  I thought about killing his parents and making him eat their bodies in chili but decided against it because I use beans in my chili and figured he wouldn't eat my 'fake' bean chili.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on November 04, 2011, 02:20:27 PM
LOL I wear hoodies with thumb holes all the time and I also put beans in my chili, he has never disapproved of either of these things with me  :lol:
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: MOE from between St. Joe's River and the railroad tracks on November 04, 2011, 02:41:33 PM
I don't know anything about this argument but i demand some samples from Robin. In fact, I would go so far as to say its my right. In fact, I will use government to secure and protect this right.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on November 04, 2011, 02:43:23 PM
I don't take demands
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: John Shaw on November 04, 2011, 03:03:08 PM
I don't take demands

I demand that you refuse to take demands.

*Carefully watching your head for explosions*
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on November 04, 2011, 03:16:02 PM
I don't take demands

I demand that you refuse to take demands.

*Carefully watching your head for explosions*
I see what you did there!
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on November 04, 2011, 03:58:40 PM
So here we see Michele say Curtis DID NOT hit Faisal... interesting

(http://i42.tinypic.com/b6von7.jpg)


Here is the link
http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=4347.msg48268#msg48268 (http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=4347.msg48268#msg48268)
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on November 04, 2011, 04:04:10 PM
another post

"Also, Curtis has always been great with Blue (the dog) and exercised a great deal of restraint with the boys. I would not have asked for his help if I didn't trust him implicitly with my family, my animals and my property."


http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=4347.30 (http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=4347.30)
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on November 04, 2011, 04:36:30 PM
What quote did she miss, Joe, and why did you delete your post asking such?

Here we've got Michele Seven, in DECEMBER, saying I'd never hit her son (Faisal). Only ONCE after that date have I been in the same building as them (New Year's Eve), and I ASSURE you I assaulted NO ONE that night, let alone her kids.

Furthermore, you've got her posting in DECEMBER that she implicitly trusted me with her family, her animals and property.

This isn't ME saying I was never a threat to her, her animals or her children, this is HER saying that.

Still going to place all your faith in those rumors and refuse to communicate with me on this subject?
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on November 04, 2011, 04:50:18 PM
I deleted it because I decided to end any discussion of it. And I'm doing that right now.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: One two three on November 04, 2011, 09:58:21 PM
I am getting discouraged with liberty people who don't like to pay for anything.

Oh you have no idea.

S'why I'll never focus my labor on selling shit to liberty people.

My shit will always be liberty oriented, but cheap fuckers are cheap and I'd rather sell to people who pay for my efforts.

Can't make content without getting paid for it.

Quote

So do you think this was a bad idea?

New organic farm seeking assistance
Thursday, November 3, 2011
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/opinionletters/938700-263/new-organic-farm-seeking-assistance.html (http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/opinionletters/938700-263/new-organic-farm-seeking-assistance.html)

These days, people are very concerned about rising food prices and from where their food is coming.

If you are someone who is worried about pesticides and chemical additives in your food, and also the sustainability of food production, you might be happy to know that there is a local option coming to suburban Manchester.

A Community Supported Agriculture farm is now forming, where people buy an annual food share of the farm’s fresh vegetables and other produce.

Free State Farm CSA & Education Center will be a demonstration farm and education center offering organically raised produce and free-range eggs and livestock to its members. We are currently in the start-up phase, looking for other whole food enthusiasts to join in the efforts.

Free State Farm will educate interested people regarding natural farming techniques and the value of real foods obtained locally. We will provide whole, nutritious foods free from chemicals, as nature intended, using a CSA model for membership.

If anyone is interested in helping to create this local organic food community, kindly contact Frank at EatingForHealth @ juno.com. The Facebook page can be viewed at “Free State Farm CSA and Education Center”.

When the subject has come up and I've been, around I've always strongly discouraged anyone from naming anything Free State anything.  IMO, it's even unwise to go around introducing yourself as a FSPer to strangers.  Saying hello, I am bob and my politics are this just doesn't seem like the best way to introduce yourself to others.

The comments aren't very encouraging.

Quote
BigDaddyNH 11 hours ago
There is a CSA right here in Nashua, and you don't have to support "free staters"...

http://www.countrydreamsfarmcs (http://www.countrydreamsfarmcs)...

Quote
Artemisia2 1 day ago
"Free State" Farm? Unfortunate choice of names. I'll pass. Thanks for the info, Jan. I've been wanting to join a CSA.

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walstib 1 day ago
Hey Free Staters - I have a better idea, how about you go back to from where you came.

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JanLive 2 days ago
"Free State"?

No, thanks  ...not if it supports a FreeStater. I'll stick with Middle Branch Farm.

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Wissenschaftlerin 1 day ago in reply to JanLive
Looks like a bit of contempt for the law. This is not the kind of business that that I would want to patronize.  I wonder if we could even trust the products to be 'organic' if the owners don't like to follow government law/rules.

Quote
JanLive 1 day ago in reply to Wissenschaftlerin
I love my CSA because they are part of the community, they provide a wonderful service and spread their good will - for instance when a share isn't collected they take it to the food bank.

Sign up now for next year! http://www.middlebranchfarm.co (http://www.middlebranchfarm.co)...

free range eggs, organic veggies and meats - they even deliver to Nashua for you!

Of course, Blue Hampshire, the main progressive blog in NH, picked up the LTE which explains the negative comments.
http://bluehampshire.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=13627 (http://bluehampshire.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=13627)

I wouldn't except many positive comments because a lot of organic folks are Democrats and the farm isn't in the immediate area of the readers of the paper.






Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on November 05, 2011, 11:58:56 AM
I deleted it because I decided to end any discussion of it. And I'm doing that right now.

Wow. First time BJ gets called out on his 'principled' hypocrisy he takes his ball and goes home.

You're a shining example to all potential FSP movers, BJ.
Move, latch on to the rumor mill, abandon reason, ?????, PROFIT!
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on November 05, 2011, 12:43:20 PM
From what I've seen over the years, I'm not sure the "high road" connects to your neighborhood.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sluggers on November 05, 2011, 04:49:39 PM

To anyone who is just gawking.... buy some private webcam shows, some flicks or some hot ass photo sets or GTFO my porn career.


Links to where we can do this, please.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on November 05, 2011, 04:56:41 PM
From what I've seen over the years, I'm not sure the "high road" connects to your neighborhood.

Actually I've taken quite a few principled stances among 'activists' that have brought me grief (like calling out a certain 'civ-dis activist' for embezzling legal defense funds). I am by no means perfect, but my propensity for letting other people know their shit does in fact stink, regularly costs me 'friends'. (Actually, my propensity to be a troll has probably caused me the greatest amount of 'grief', thus far)

But please, feel encouraged to do the same to me. Have you witnessed me acting in a manner that goes against my principles, or the principles of the community at large? I am trying to improve myself, and doing so is difficult if people do not let me know about my stinky shit (to me it all smells like roses :P ).
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on November 05, 2011, 05:28:31 PM
anyone with SERIOUS inquiries about my work can send me a PM here and I will gladly send you a list of websites I use to sell my content.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Highline on November 21, 2011, 12:11:16 PM
so it's ok to assume I am not trying to cause drama if I find a video of you guys jerking off and post it where everyone you know can see it, and then delete it 5 minutes later after it has been seen?

I like to keep my personal life and my business life separate, if people in my personal life know what I do I have no problem with it, however, I prefer to have "the talk" with them myself about what I do for work when I fell  I can trust that person to be mature about it.


In other news now that everyone knows I am a fucking amateur internet porn star, either buy my shit or move along to find something else entertaining to occupy yourselves with.

That's pretty cool, Robin.  I just learned of this last night at that place.  Sexual performance art is classic expressive speech.  :)
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on November 21, 2011, 12:37:25 PM
so it's ok to assume I am not trying to cause drama if I find a video of you guys jerking off and post it where everyone you know can see it, and then delete it 5 minutes later after it has been seen?

I like to keep my personal life and my business life separate, if people in my personal life know what I do I have no problem with it, however, I prefer to have "the talk" with them myself about what I do for work when I fell  I can trust that person to be mature about it.


In other news now that everyone knows I am a fucking amateur internet porn star, either buy my shit or move along to find something else entertaining to occupy yourselves with.

That's pretty cool, Robin.  I just learned of this last night at that place.  Sexual performance art is classic expressive speech.  :)
It's good to learn something new every day  :P
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on November 28, 2011, 12:17:19 PM
I heard from Charlie McFreeman (mauiguy), a former roommate of "Sovereign" Curtis and Robin that his property was stolen by them (food).  When they were caught, they refused to compensate him for it.

What's your side of the story, guys?
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: alaric89 on November 28, 2011, 03:50:03 PM
Are you talking a whole roasted pig or a bag of cookies?
Man, that Curtis fellow is one hell of a player, he should give some sort of class.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on November 28, 2011, 04:44:23 PM
edited because i dont give enough of a fuck about you to be trolled......

hollar at me in person if you care about any of this shit Boner.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on November 28, 2011, 04:54:00 PM
also you wanna delete my last name, ive already had enough trouble regarding my safety and privacy after you posted those videos on here Jay.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on November 28, 2011, 06:40:26 PM
Are you talking a whole roasted pig or a bag of cookies?

Does it matter?
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on November 28, 2011, 07:05:08 PM
Are you talking a whole roasted pig or a bag of cookies?

Does it matter?

yeah it also matters if you replace shit (that was left when he moved, and he asked we just throw it away for him) and ask for a list of what else should be replaced and no one gives you a fucking list and then huffs and puffs about it for a fucking million years instead of telling you how to make them whole. right?
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on November 28, 2011, 07:17:04 PM
Are you talking a whole roasted pig or a bag of cookies?

Does it matter?

yeah it also matters if you replace shit (that was left when he moved, and he asked we just throw it away for him) and ask for a list of what else should be replaced and no one gives you a fucking list and then huffs and puffs about it for a fucking million years instead of telling you how to make them whole. right?

I meant that it shouldn't matter what the item was that claimed to be taken without permission, it was the issue that it was taken to begin with.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on November 28, 2011, 07:34:20 PM
Are you talking a whole roasted pig or a bag of cookies?

Does it matter?

yeah it also matters if you replace shit (that was left when he moved, and he asked we just throw it away for him) and ask for a list of what else should be replaced and no one gives you a fucking list and then huffs and puffs about it for a fucking million years instead of telling you how to make them whole. right?

I meant that it shouldn't matter what the item was that claimed to be taken without permission, it was the issue that it was taken to begin with.


just fyi, charlie brought food home (while curtis was in jail and i had no cash for food because charlie did not give me curtis' paycheck like i was informed would happen) and invited me to partake in said food (i had a few sammiches and used a stick of butter and a box of mac n cheese)..... he asked us to replace said food when we left for the grocery store one day, we put our groceries in the fridge and a few days later he opens the fridge and bitches that what we got was not up to his food standards............. then NEVER said what he wanted as compensation after multiple attempts to get him to tell me what he wanted.

also we ended up owing late fees on our storage units because Charlie decided NOT to give me the money he owed Curtis when Curtis was in jail (I am sure this was discussed and that is what was in the plans but I am a girl so what the fuck do I know about man business)....... so I could not pay his bills...................if dirt is what everyone wants, shit, i will let it fly all over the place....... I am tired of people trying to call everyone else out, especially when they do not own up to their own shortcomings. I guess it is easy for you guys to continuously use Curtis as a target, hope it makes you feel good about yourselves......... He was not even home when I ate some of the lunch meat Charlie offered me in a goddamn sandwich. So yeah, lets cry over some fucking roast beef some more.................. that will make things right.


until this bit of groceries, we had both been throwing in on food, and i had been cooking most of it for us to share on my pots and pans, using my spices, using MY electricity (I am the SOLE provider of electricity in this house). this is why community kitchen is bullshit and people should always buy and lock up their own shit. he ate things he did not buy as well, so everyone can fuckoff...........
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on November 28, 2011, 07:40:04 PM
Thanks, I'll talk to Charlie about it.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on November 28, 2011, 07:42:48 PM
Thanks, I'll talk to Charlie about it.
good luck, we were supposed to follow up on mediation but I am not sure that is going to happen since he has not contacted anyone since moving out of here.........

also Curtis did get the money he was owed for working with Charlie when he got out of jail, better late than never I guess.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Pilot_MKN on November 28, 2011, 11:27:37 PM
Without the publicity of continuing to escalate confrontations, both if their streams of income slows down to a trickle.
That's a fact, not a theory.
I've volunteered to buy one-way bus tickets for Ademo and a few select others. Their antics are perfect for someplace hopeless like California or Mass. But those same antics work against us in NH.

Wrong, Ademo and Pete bring a lot of good people to NH.

Can you name one?

Will be me eventually. If we are just spouting out our opinions mine is as good as anyones. They repeatedly leave, gather attention then yoyo back to NH. They arent like Sam or Carroll where they do a bit of work, burn out, then bail. I think these guys will get older, settle down more, and the cycle of people will keep coming.

Sam didn't burn out dude. He decided to go live in a Hobbit Hole in Texas because a fancy fortune telling computer told him shit was about to hit the fan. Get your facts straight.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Turd Ferguson on November 28, 2011, 11:36:05 PM
Sam didn't burn out dude. He decided to go live in a Hobbit Hole in Texas ..........
:lol:

Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on November 28, 2011, 11:48:09 PM
I like Sam a lot, don't be jerks..............
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: One two three on November 29, 2011, 03:20:25 AM
Are you talking a whole roasted pig or a bag of cookies?

Does it matter?

So you are against stealing?

I generally don't think it is a big deal to take a minor food item from someone that would likely give you that good item if you asked, anyway.  For example, I recently took some stale chips from my roommate without his permission.  However, I believe that he likely doesn't want any of the chips anymore, considers them unconsumable and hasn't touched them in a couple weeks.  I also believe that based on his history, he likely wouldn't care if I ate the whole bag.

I also have used his pepper, maybe 6 times, and I'm unsure if I have his permission.  I've asked his permission a couple of times and he said yes.  However, I'm not completely clear if he gave me permission to use the pepper just those times or whenever I want.  I have not made an effort to clarify his position on this issue.

Is what I am doing wrong?  Likely yes.  But there is a massive difference it taking 10 chips and 10 cases of chip bags.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Highline on November 29, 2011, 05:16:50 AM
I like Sam a lot, don't be jerks..............

I'd second that.  Sam may have his shortcomings (don't we all?) but he is a good guy.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: anarchir on November 29, 2011, 07:00:32 AM
Without the publicity of continuing to escalate confrontations, both if their streams of income slows down to a trickle.
That's a fact, not a theory.
I've volunteered to buy one-way bus tickets for Ademo and a few select others. Their antics are perfect for someplace hopeless like California or Mass. But those same antics work against us in NH.

Wrong, Ademo and Pete bring a lot of good people to NH.

Can you name one?

Will be me eventually. If we are just spouting out our opinions mine is as good as anyones. They repeatedly leave, gather attention then yoyo back to NH. They arent like Sam or Carroll where they do a bit of work, burn out, then bail. I think these guys will get older, settle down more, and the cycle of people will keep coming.

Sam didn't burn out dude. He decided to go live in a Hobbit Hole in Texas because a fancy fortune telling computer told him shit was about to hit the fan. Get your facts straight.

Oh my bad, I didnt realize he had a Hobbit Hole, I thought he was just going to have a mud structure kind of like the one originally seen in Dale's old comic.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: alaric89 on November 29, 2011, 08:00:22 AM
Some guy keeps posting stuff about other people on a troll infested message board in NH. I think it is folly to trust such a person but hey, I ain't there.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Pilot_MKN on November 29, 2011, 10:40:01 AM
I like Sam a lot, don't be jerks..............

I'd second that.  Sam may have his shortcomings (don't we all?) but he is a good guy.

I was just trying to be funny. I've never met him personally, I just know of him from Free Talk Live and he seems like a nice guy but he certainly believed in some kooky stuff.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sluggers on November 30, 2011, 07:00:10 AM
So it is admitted that Robin and Curtis are thieves?
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: alaric89 on November 30, 2011, 07:53:49 AM
Robin might steal your package of cookies if Curtis is in jail?
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on November 30, 2011, 12:27:04 PM
Robin might steal your package of cookies if Curtis is in jail?
I might eat food you offer me and then try to replace it! Holy shit!!

Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: alaric89 on November 30, 2011, 02:22:41 PM
lol.
Generally (read always) I don't want repaid if I offered something to someone.
I call this hospitality.
My best friend invited me and a couple of my spawn over for waffles on Monday do I ow him waffles?
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Turd Ferguson on November 30, 2011, 03:19:32 PM
My best friend invited me and a couple of my spawn over for waffles on Monday do I ow him waffles?


Common courtesy says you should at least offer up one of your spawn in trade, which you know beforehand they wont accept anyway.

Its just a respectful thing to do.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: dalebert on November 30, 2011, 04:22:27 PM
Common courtesy says you should at least offer up one of your spawn in trade, which you know beforehand they wont accept anyway.

But just think of the windfall in terms of free time if they do!
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on November 30, 2011, 07:56:00 PM
My best friend invited me and a couple of my spawn over for waffles on Monday do I ow him waffles?


Common courtesy says you should at least offer up one of your spawn in trade, which you know beforehand they wont accept anyway.

Its just a respectful thing to do.
lol.  This reminds me of Citizen of the Galaxy by Robert Heinlein.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Turd Ferguson on November 30, 2011, 09:32:38 PM
My best friend invited me and a couple of my spawn over for waffles on Monday do I ow him waffles?


Common courtesy says you should at least offer up one of your spawn in trade, which you know beforehand they wont accept anyway.

Its just a respectful thing to do.
lol.  This reminds me of Citizen of the Galaxy by Robert Heinlein.



Maybe I should become a writer......

Nah, my thoughts are too scattered for such a massive task. I'd be at page 3 of my novel and go "Oooooh, Just Cause 3 is out for PS3 next week........ pfffft.... fuck this book!!!"
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Turd Ferguson on November 30, 2011, 09:41:23 PM
Common courtesy says you should at least offer up one of your spawn in trade, which you know beforehand they wont accept anyway.

But just think of the windfall in terms of free time if they do!

Whoaahhh, thats like, win/win/win for everyone. Al gets some peace and quiet, waffle guy gets some indentured servants to do stuff like chop wood and give him pedicures, and the kids get waffles every monday.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on December 23, 2011, 12:02:42 PM
Boner Joe, FTL drama whore, repeatedly defaults on $5k loan (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/general/boner-joe-owes-me-money/) from Coconut, owes $7115 (http://7115dollars.com)
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on December 23, 2011, 12:08:12 PM
Freestater refuses to pay back $25k loan and misappropriates $10k in festival funds...story developing.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on December 23, 2011, 12:19:13 PM
nice try douchebag

"oh no someone is calling me out for fucking up and not paying back a loan, I better try to make someone else look worse than me"
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on December 23, 2011, 12:19:52 PM
Freestater refuses to pay back $25k loan and misappropriates $10k in festival funds...story developing.

You mean you haven't had time to make the story up, yet?

Notice the difference between what you post and what I post.

You: "I heard..."

Me: "Quote, link"
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on December 23, 2011, 12:25:17 PM
In fact, I've heard (from two different sources) that this person has left the festival fund so dry that they weren't able to reserve the premises for the following year. There is enough concern with lack of funds that someone has proposed renting at least one building using their own money and donations to make sure that the event happens on the scheduled date.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on December 23, 2011, 12:36:08 PM
why do you have such a hardon for Curtis?
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on December 23, 2011, 12:42:00 PM
In fact, I've heard (from two different sources) that this person has left the festival fund so dry that they weren't able to reserve the premises for the following year. There is enough concern with lack of funds that someone has proposed renting at least one building using their own money and donations to make sure that the event happens on the scheduled date.

BWA HA HA HA HA

Either YOU are being sold a bill of goods, or you're making this bs up yourself.

There is no 'Festival Fund'. *I* raised ALL funds for PorcFest 2011 starting from scratch, and without taking one dime from the FSP. Previously, as I've been quoted saying, PF Organizers had money/credit they could invest at the beginning of the organization, only to repay themselves on the back end. I did not have this option, so I had to raise every dollar needed, starting with zero (I also wanted to show that PF didnt need FSP investment/involvement. I succeeded.). It sure would have been a lot easier had someone given me this $25k fictitious loan, but that never happened.

Furthermore, Roger's campground does not require upfront payment for facilities. They take that one the last day of the festival. Given the relationship they know 'we're' good for it, and they've never been let down.

On top of that the proposal for selling off the venues to third parties is MINE. I have the proof, and plenty of witnesses. The proposal is called "A Proposal for Decentralizing and Privatizing PorcFest". I can send you a pdf copy, if you like. It was finished/'published' just a few weeks after PorcFest 2011. I'm told the PF2012 organizer(s) have seen it and found it very interesting/insightful. I was asked not to make it REALLY public, as that might confuse people, and skew the new organizer(s) plans, so it made the rounds on the DL, informally.


But all this stupidity is just your attempt to make people pay attention to anything but YOUR inability to fulfill contractual obligations. Its not even a good attempt.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on December 23, 2011, 12:43:37 PM
Boner Joe, FTL drama whore, repeatedly defaults on $5k loan (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/general/boner-joe-owes-me-money/) from Coconut, owes $7115 (http://7115dollars.com)
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on December 23, 2011, 12:45:00 PM
Why are you defending yourself? I never named names or the venue.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on December 23, 2011, 12:48:35 PM
Why are you defending yourself? I never named names or the venue.

Oh no! Guess I'm feeling guilty, eh? LOL

Come on, who else could you be rumor mongering about?

Boner Joe, FTL drama whore, repeatedly defaults on $5k loan (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/general/boner-joe-owes-me-money/) from Coconut, owes $7115 (http://7115dollars.com)
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on December 23, 2011, 12:51:55 PM
Yes I have an unpaid debt. I fail to see how that has anything to do with the drama I just posted.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Robin on December 23, 2011, 12:58:19 PM
shit, you be making everything drama.

you seem to think everything is fair game so i don't see why no one else is allowed to play by the rules you seem to have set for yourself.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on December 23, 2011, 12:59:57 PM
Yes I have an unpaid debt. I fail to see how that has anything to do with the drama I just posted.

What drama? The drama you're making up? The drama you "heard" but didn't bother to source or cite?

See sig
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on December 23, 2011, 01:08:52 PM
Nothing I've said in this or any other drama thread hasn't been sourced by me either through a conversation with someone I trust isn't lying or by a forum or Facebook post.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on December 23, 2011, 01:12:54 PM
Nothing I've said in this or any other drama thread hasn't been sourced by me either through a conversation with someone I trust isn't lying or by a forum or Facebook post.

in other words, absent a citation, HEARSAY

see sig
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on December 23, 2011, 01:17:20 PM
You do realize that I was the one who came out with my failure to live up to my debt obligation on Facebook first, right? I don't see why you think posting that in your signature bothers me. I could easily delete it as a moderator, or modify any posts you've made with that info in it.

But if it amuses you because you're butthurt I've posted "hearsay", go right ahead.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on December 23, 2011, 01:29:38 PM
I'm told the PF2012 organizer(s) have seen it and found it very interesting/insightful.

So, why weren't you picked to organize Porcfest for next year? With the claim that you raised all those funds on your own and your privatizing idea, I don't see why they would let you go.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: John Shaw on December 23, 2011, 01:32:43 PM
(http://www.judiciaryreport.com/images/hillary-clinton-hand-under-chin.jpg)
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Fred on December 23, 2011, 01:34:23 PM
(http://www.judiciaryreport.com/images/hillary-clinton-hand-under-chin.jpg)

What's lucifer doing in here?
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on December 23, 2011, 01:35:27 PM
^lol
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Sovereign Curtis on December 23, 2011, 01:36:13 PM
I'm told the PF2012 organizer(s) have seen it and found it very interesting/insightful.

So, why weren't you picked to organize Porcfest for next year? With the claim that you raised all those funds on your own and your privatizing idea, I don't see why they would let you go.

Because I made FAR too many people butthurt. Not out-of-staters, and first time PorcFest attendees, but the old timers who think they need to be worshiped because they moved before you or I did. Basically damage control got to be too much for the prez so she made the expedient political decision. (also, a week or two before PorcFest the stress got to me and I told her I didnt want to do it again. She wouldn't let me change my mind)

btw its not a claim. Its documented fact.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: BonerJoe on December 23, 2011, 01:37:52 PM
I'm told the PF2012 organizer(s) have seen it and found it very interesting/insightful.

So, why weren't you picked to organize Porcfest for next year? With the claim that you raised all those funds on your own and your privatizing idea, I don't see why they would let you go.

Because I made FAR too many people butthurt. Not out-of-staters, and first time PorcFest attendees, but the old timers who think they need to be worshiped because they moved before you or I did. Basically damage control got to be too much for the prez so she made the expedient political decision. (also, a week or two before PorcFest the stress got to me and I told her I didnt want to do it again. She wouldn't let me change my mind)

btw its not a claim. Its documented fact.

Oh, OK.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: John Shaw on December 23, 2011, 01:42:21 PM
Dead or Alive - You Spin Me Round (Like a Record) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJv5qLsLYoo#)
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: anarchir on December 28, 2011, 01:56:09 AM
Dead or Alive - You Spin Me Round (Like a Record) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJv5qLsLYoo#)

Meatspin.com
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on December 28, 2011, 11:54:38 AM
Dead or Alive - You Spin Me Round (Like a Record) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJv5qLsLYoo#)

Meatspin.com

For the record: definitely NSFW.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: anarchir on December 28, 2011, 12:08:21 PM
Dead or Alive - You Spin Me Round (Like a Record) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJv5qLsLYoo#)

Meatspin.com

For the record: definitely NSFW.

:D  Got one person!

Edit: back in college we had multiple public computers at the top of some stairs right at the entrance to a cafeteria. Everyone coming into the cafeteria had no choice but to stare straight at them when coming to eat, so my friends and I sometimes when we were leaving would set every computer to that site. Bwah ha ha.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: sillyperson on January 06, 2012, 02:04:49 PM
This had the possibility of serious virality. The "secede" sign (and low resolution) killed it tho

Rick Santorum Asked If He's Googled Himself (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2glKJXkMBOA#ws)

Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: dalebert on January 08, 2012, 02:02:30 PM
My latest status update.

If you guys really want to convince the average NH voters that Ron Paul is actually a viable candidate for them and not just for the "winger" types, you need to up your enthusiasm and passion. People on horseback carrying a huge yellow flag with an obscure culty-looking symbol with a snake on it just isn't attn-getting enough. You need to to hoot and hollar while firing guns into the air. You need a blimp flashing his name. You need people to know you're so passionate about Ron Paul that you'd do things normally reserved for people with borderline personality disorders. Look, I'm trying to give you some basics on communication skills here. Are you paying attn? Now get off yer duffs and raise the energy levels out there. There's only a few days left and this is the last chance to save 'murica!!
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Turd Ferguson on January 08, 2012, 03:05:42 PM
No.


Vote for Santorum.


He has a purtier mouth.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Mandrik on January 10, 2012, 11:30:25 PM
My latest status update.

If you guys really want to convince the average NH voters that Ron Paul is actually a viable candidate for them and not just for the "winger" types, you need to up your enthusiasm and passion. People on horseback carrying a huge yellow flag with an obscure culty-looking symbol with a snake on it just isn't attn-getting enough. You need to to hoot and hollar while firing guns into the air. You need a blimp flashing his name. You need people to know you're so passionate about Ron Paul that you'd do things normally reserved for people with borderline personality disorders. Look, I'm trying to give you some basics on communication skills here. Are you paying attn? Now get off yer duffs and raise the energy levels out there. There's only a few days left and this is the last chance to save 'murica!!

I heard you voted today, Dale. This one's for you, buddy!

(http://memegenerator.net/cache/instances/400x/12/12788/13095754.jpg)



-Mandrik
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Osborne on January 10, 2012, 11:34:34 PM
My latest status update.

If you guys really want to convince the average NH voters that Ron Paul is actually a viable candidate for them and not just for the "winger" types, you need to up your enthusiasm and passion. People on horseback carrying a huge yellow flag with an obscure culty-looking symbol with a snake on it just isn't attn-getting enough. You need to to hoot and hollar while firing guns into the air. You need a blimp flashing his name. You need people to know you're so passionate about Ron Paul that you'd do things normally reserved for people with borderline personality disorders. Look, I'm trying to give you some basics on communication skills here. Are you paying attn? Now get off yer duffs and raise the energy levels out there. There's only a few days left and this is the last chance to save 'murica!!

I heard you voted today, Dale. This one's for you, buddy!

(http://memegenerator.net/cache/instances/400x/12/12788/13095754.jpg)



-Mandrik

To be fair, I drove him to the polling station and refused to leave until he voted.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Turd Ferguson on January 11, 2012, 01:08:39 AM
He voted for Mittens, right?
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: dalebert on January 18, 2012, 01:36:29 AM
Quote
Dale,

I would really appreciate it if put a NSFW somewhere in your post that links to the Excellent Breasts thread in the FTL BBS.  Thank you for considering this.  This is the post by you that I'm talking about, http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=24851.msg273675#msg273675 (http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=24851.msg273675#msg273675)

Thanks,
Keith

O RLY? Some text says "excellent breasts" and is linked somewhere. Is someone going to click that and not expect to see... oh... I don't know... BREASTS?

God damn it, Keith. I'm not going to call you an idiot, but that email was idiotic.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: anarchir on January 18, 2012, 04:43:04 PM
Quote
Dale,

I would really appreciate it if put a NSFW somewhere in your post that links to the Excellent Breasts thread in the FTL BBS.  Thank you for considering this.  This is the post by you that I'm talking about, http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=24851.msg273675#msg273675 (http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=24851.msg273675#msg273675)

Thanks,
Keith

O RLY? Some text says "excellent breasts" and is linked somewhere. Is someone going to click that and not expect to see... oh... I don't know... BREASTS?

God damn it, Keith. I'm not going to call you an idiot, but that email was idiotic.

Excellent butts thread already exists somewhere.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: dalebert on January 18, 2012, 06:01:19 PM
Excellent butts thread already exists somewhere.

Yeah, now I know because someone necroed it. Mine's better though. We should phase out the old segregated thread for the more modern and progressive integrated thread.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: John Shaw on January 18, 2012, 06:12:12 PM
How about I just merge 'em?
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: One two three on January 19, 2012, 01:07:53 AM
I agree with Dale.  It is wrong to link to porn on the FSP Forum.  Please take my apology for doing so.  I was wrong.  I should have been more mature.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: One two three on February 24, 2012, 12:54:06 AM
This isn't drama.  It's activism.  You can help a good activist.  Together, we can change the world.

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Quote
Dear Friends,

As many of you know, I have up until now supported myself, as well as my activism, through black market means as a private adult entertainer. Due to the public success of my activism, supporting myself in this fashion has become a major risk to both my safety and my activist projects.

I am very passionate about my activism and it comes before everything else in my life, therefore I have come to the conclusion that I must cease such black market activities. It is my greatest wish to give all of my time, energy, and love to the cause of liberty and Voluntaryism, but I need your help!

All donations and expenses will be 100% transparent. Funds received that exceed current expenses will be spent on better and better projects. This will all be outlined on the support section of my website http://naturalbornanarchist.fr33agents.com (http://naturalbornanarchist.fr33agents.com). I plan to keep complete financial records and share them publicly with each of you, while delivering even better quality of activism than I have already. Your input is always welcome and I aim to exceed your highest expectations.

Together, we can change the world.

Love,
Kelly
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: dalebert on February 24, 2012, 01:17:57 AM
http://forum.shiresociety.com/civil-disobedience-noncooperation-and-jailed-activists/regarding-the-'bearcat'/msg58052/#msg58052 (http://forum.shiresociety.com/civil-disobedience-noncooperation-and-jailed-activists/regarding-the-'bearcat'/msg58052/#msg58052)

Quote from: KingAppalachia
I recently read about the BEARCAT issue and it causes some concern. To me this is an out right threat against the activists of Keene. They're using your own tax money to buy a piece of militaristic equipment that will be used against you. I would take this as the initiation of force and feel that activists should get together and act accordingly. Since it is technically your property, activists should commandeer this piece of equipment and dispose of it accordingly. Of course, this will take dedicated martyrs, but the time is soon approaching where some of us will have to step up to the plate and raise the bar.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: John Shaw on February 24, 2012, 06:32:17 AM
Eff ta the eee ta the dee.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Diogenes The Cynic on February 24, 2012, 08:53:47 AM
http://forum.shiresociety.com/civil-disobedience-noncooperation-and-jailed-activists/regarding-the-'bearcat'/msg58052/#msg58052 (http://forum.shiresociety.com/civil-disobedience-noncooperation-and-jailed-activists/regarding-the-'bearcat'/msg58052/#msg58052)

Quote from: KingAppalachia
I recently read about the BEARCAT issue and it causes some concern. To me this is an out right threat against the activists of Keene. They're using your own tax money to buy a piece of militaristic equipment that will be used against you. I would take this as the initiation of force and feel that activists should get together and act accordingly. Since it is technically your property, activists should commandeer this piece of equipment and dispose of it accordingly. Of course, this will take dedicated martyrs, but the time is soon approaching where some of us will have to step up to the plate and raise the bar.

Being a martyr to your cause is stupid.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: dalebert on February 24, 2012, 11:18:09 AM
Eff ta the eee ta the dee.

To say that it has crossed my mind would be an understatement. However, it's more like one of those cases where it doesn't matter. He may as well be an agent provocateur because he's doing the job anyway. It's actually kind of sad if he's not at least getting paid for it.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: dalebert on February 24, 2012, 11:40:33 AM
http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=19766.0 (http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=19766.0)
« on: December 26, 2009, 10:01:53 pm »

Quote from: King Appalachia
Hello, I'm Travis Simms from West Virginia. I plan on moving out of West Virginia to the free state as soon as I receive my associates degree in general education at the end of the spring semester. I'm looking for a full time job with a big enough pay scale to get on my feet and continue my education part time. If anyone at all can help me out please email me at kingappalachia86@aol.com . It will be much appreciated, thank you.

http://forum.shiresociety.com/jobs-opportunities/will-be-in-nh-in-4-5-months-looking-for-jobcareer-in-journalismmass-media/msg58051/#msg58051 (http://forum.shiresociety.com/jobs-opportunities/will-be-in-nh-in-4-5-months-looking-for-jobcareer-in-journalismmass-media/msg58051/#msg58051)
« on: February 21, 2012, 11:35:39 AM »

Quote from: KingAppalachia
Hello

My name is Travis Simms. I recently introduced myself on the introduction section. I plan to make the move to New Hampshire by May or June. I am ready to hit the ground running and hope to find an employment opportunity before I move. This May I will be graduating college with a degree in journalism/mass communications with a minor in political science. My experience includes: Working with NPR, College News Paper, College TV Station, College Radio Station, Adobe Audition, Final Cut Pro, Video and Radio editing. If you're interested in employing my services or know someone else who may be. Please let me know. Thank you.

http://wcur.concord.edu/staff.htm (http://wcur.concord.edu/staff.htm)
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: Diogenes The Cynic on February 24, 2012, 05:14:49 PM
http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=19766.0 (http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=19766.0)
« on: December 26, 2009, 10:01:53 pm »

Quote from: King Appalachia
Hello, I'm Travis Simms from West Virginia. I plan on moving out of West Virginia to the free state as soon as I receive my associates degree in general education at the end of the spring semester. I'm looking for a full time job with a big enough pay scale to get on my feet and continue my education part time. If anyone at all can help me out please email me at kingappalachia86@aol.com . It will be much appreciated, thank you.

http://forum.shiresociety.com/jobs-opportunities/will-be-in-nh-in-4-5-months-looking-for-jobcareer-in-journalismmass-media/msg58051/#msg58051 (http://forum.shiresociety.com/jobs-opportunities/will-be-in-nh-in-4-5-months-looking-for-jobcareer-in-journalismmass-media/msg58051/#msg58051)
« on: February 21, 2012, 11:35:39 AM »

Quote from: KingAppalachia
Hello

My name is Travis Simms. I recently introduced myself on the introduction section. I plan to make the move to New Hampshire by May or June. I am ready to hit the ground running and hope to find an employment opportunity before I move. This May I will be graduating college with a degree in journalism/mass communications with a minor in political science. My experience includes: Working with NPR, College News Paper, College TV Station, College Radio Station, Adobe Audition, Final Cut Pro, Video and Radio editing. If you're interested in employing my services or know someone else who may be. Please let me know. Thank you.

http://wcur.concord.edu/staff.htm (http://wcur.concord.edu/staff.htm)


Good work Dale. Now you know he's a real (misguided) person. Introduce him to Gene Sharp, and explain why for groups why he must categorically reject violence.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: anarchir on February 24, 2012, 06:01:54 PM
Set him on the right path!

Also, Keith is expecting to live entirely off of donations? That seems like a foolhardy plan.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: One two three on February 25, 2012, 01:05:38 AM
Set him on the right path!

Also, Keith is expecting to live entirely off of donations? That seems like a foolhardy plan.

You mean Kelly is trying an experiment in it.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: anarchir on February 25, 2012, 02:07:56 AM
Set him on the right path!

Also, Keith is expecting to live entirely off of donations? That seems like a foolhardy plan.

You mean Kelly is trying an experiment in it.

How the hell did I read that 3 times as Keith lol.
Title: Re: Dllama in the Free State
Post by: freeAgent on February 25, 2012, 10:41:26 AM
http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=19766.0 (http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=19766.0)
« on: December 26, 2009, 10:01:53 pm »

Quote from: King Appalachia
Hello, I'm Travis Simms from West Virginia. I plan on moving out of West Virginia to the free state as soon as I receive my associates degree in general education at the end of the spring semester. I'm looking for a full time job with a big enough pay scale to get on my feet and continue my education part time. If anyone at all can help me out please email me at kingappalachia86@aol.com . It will be much appreciated, thank you.

http://forum.shiresociety.com/jobs-opportunities/will-be-in-nh-in-4-5-months-looking-for-jobcareer-in-journalismmass-media/msg58051/#msg58051 (http://forum.shiresociety.com/jobs-opportunities/will-be-in-nh-in-4-5-months-looking-for-jobcareer-in-journalismmass-media/msg58051/#msg58051)
« on: February 21, 2012, 11:35:39 AM »

Quote from: KingAppalachia
Hello

My name is Travis Simms. I recently introduced myself on the introduction section. I plan to make the move to New Hampshire by May or June. I am ready to hit the ground running and hope to find an employment opportunity before I move. This May I will be graduating college with a degree in journalism/mass communications with a minor in political science. My experience includes: Working with NPR, College News Paper, College TV Station, College Radio Station, Adobe Audition, Final Cut Pro, Video and Radio editing. If you're interested in employing my services or know someone else who may be. Please let me know. Thank you.

http://wcur.concord.edu/staff.htm (http://wcur.concord.edu/staff.htm)


So...why is this guy claiming he doesn't already live in NH?