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Free Talk Live => General => Topic started by: BonerJoe on August 09, 2009, 07:21:45 PM
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So, what do you think?
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Bullshit. I'll see you on December 22, 2012.
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(http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo48/SALGE/130.jpg).
(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss76/marnuar2/trailer/2009/accion/snapshot20090729175235.jpg)
(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss76/marnuar2/trailer/2009/accion/snapshot20090729175422.jpg)
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That movie is $200 million worth of special effects masturbation.
I need to find a way to make money of the apocalypse-idiots, though.
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Meh.
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Bullshit. I'll see you on December 13, 2012.
you do realize the 13th is 8 days before the 21st right?
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Bullshit. I'll see you on December 13, 2012.
you do realize the 13th is 8 days before the 21st right?
Fuck me, I don't know why I typed that. I guess I was thinking December 12. Who the fuck knows. I fixed it though. :lol:
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jews did it
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I brewed a chocolate stout that I called "Long count chocolate stout" (har har. get it?) that I'm going to keep cellared until 12.21.2012. On that date, i'll crack open a bottle and enjoy the show. Whether that be tidal waves and magnetic field reversals, or just mindless panicking. Either way I'm prepared.
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I wonder how hard the astronauts in orbit on the space station will be laughing
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(http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo48/SALGE/130.jpg).
Despite the fact that it's the apocalypse, the Egyptians not only found the time, but were also prepared to plow ther snow-covered roads in the fucking desert.
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So, what do you think?
gamma rays. (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=25106.msg559470#msg559470)
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Bullshit. I'll see you on December 22, 2012.
I second that.
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It is bullshit, but I will still use the apocalypse as my excuse to put off Christmas shopping until the last minute. 8)
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So, what do you think?
gamma rays. (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=25106.msg559470#msg559470)
The page was there earlier, but now it's gone. They don't want us to know.
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It is bullshit, but I will still use the apocalypse as my excuse to put off Christmas shopping until the last minute. 8)
Funny, think I will do the same thing.
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So none of you think that there is possibly a red-dwarf star? And that the star is on an oval orbit that brings it within range to screw with the earths gravitation every 5000 years or so. And by doing that it sets off earthquakes, floods, fires, and general catastrophic crap.
Not an endorsement just an interesting site on the subject.
http://www.astroengine.com/?p=4695 (http://www.astroengine.com/?p=4695)
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Red dwarf star, center of the galaxy releasing bursts of energy, Planet x, Coronal mass ejection, comet passing by...so many theories....
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We have been doomed since they turned on that particle accelerator in France a year or two ago. They created a tiny black hole that is now falling through the earth sucking up matter as it goes and growing as it does. Once it reach a certain point, earth's own gravity sends it back the way it came. It is repeating this process over and over, on December 21, 2012 it will reach the tipping point and will become big enough to suck up the entire matter of our little blue ball.
It's best just to live life to the fullest with the time we have left. Don't spend time with the ones closest to you, face it they suck or at least not that interesting any more. Go out and drink, get high, gamble and meet some whores. Party like it's 1999!
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Oh yeah, funny thing about the large hadron collider. They haven't used it yet. I mean, yes, they have turned it on. Yes they fired a particle. I don't even think that one particle made the entire circuit before they had to shut the thing down for a coolant leak, or whatever. They are going through repairs now, I think. Most reports that covered the initial test took the tone of "see, the world didn't end".
So, when they finally get a particle shot through the whole loop, they still will not have collided two particles together. I think they wanted to run a test where they run one beam by itself first, then wait a while for the drama to die down. The old "See, we shot one beam and the universe didn't collapse." Then, when they finally are ready for the collision, the whole thing is old news. By the way, this is the closest I get to a conspiracy theory.
They will probably get the thing fixed, run a few more tests, run out of funds, find more money, turn the thing on, fix a few problems, and be ready for an actual particle collision by, say, late 2012. :P :P
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We have been doomed since they turned on that particle accelerator in France a year or two ago.
bullshit.
that piece of shit broke right after they fired it....major failure.
it will take at least a year to repair.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/04/science/space/04collide.html?hp
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They created a tiny black hole that is now falling through the earth sucking up matter as it goes and growing as it does.
Oh, is that why I'm losing weight so slowly?
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Bullshit. I'll see you on December 22, 2012.
Just to be the odd one out, I do think there will be something major happening AROUND December 21, 2012. The Mayan Calendar doesn't say the world will end, just that there will be a major change/disruption. Given the state of the world right now, thats not entirely beyond the realm of possibility.
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Bullshit. I'll see you on December 22, 2012.
Just to be the odd one out, I do think there will be something major happening AROUND December 21, 2012. The Mayan Calendar doesn't say the world will end, just that there will be a major change/disruption. Given the state of the world right now, thats not entirely beyond the realm of possibility.
Well on the bright side the Sioux have the myth of the white buffalo woman. When a white buffalo calf is born and the sire dies and that calf changes color 4 times it is the buffalo of prophesy which is an omen for a time of great prosperity for the Sioux people. Supposedly such an animal was born. So there are cultural groups who aren't predicting doom and gloom. Both have a 50% chance of being correct.
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Bullshit. I'll see you on December 22, 2012.
Just to be the odd one out, I do think there will be something major happening AROUND December 21, 2012.
well, you can count out paula abdul getting let go from 'idol'
maybe prince will come out of the closet?
or, ted kennedy will stop drinking?
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So none of you think that there is possibly a red-dwarf star?
Maybe.
And that the star is on an oval orbit that brings it within range to screw with the earths gravitation every 5000 years or so.
No.
They created a tiny black hole that is now falling through the earth sucking up matter as it goes and growing as it does.
Oh, is that why I'm losing weight so slowly?
It wouldn't change what you weigh.
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So none of you think that there is possibly a red-dwarf star? And that the star is on an oval orbit that brings it within range to screw with the earths gravitation every 5000 years or so. And by doing that it sets off earthquakes, floods, fires, and general catastrophic crap.
It's possible, but one of the things about pseudoscience that pisses me off the most is they glom on to anything within the scientific realm that even vaguely supports their bullshit, and claim it as evidence, even if there's a mountain of contradictory evidence or logical flaws in the idea.
From that article you linked, it sounds like the best scientific evidence is that there may be something or other beyond the Kuiper Belt, but there's no hard evidence that it exists, or of what it might be, or what its orbital path is. And they suggest that if it exists, it may help explain periodic extinctions on Earth, but not every 5,000 years - every 25 million. And they don't suggest it'd directly affect Earth, just disturb the Kuiper Belt enough to send an abnormal number of comets hurtling towards the Sun.
Suppose we assume there's something else with a 5,000 year orbital period. For the Mayans to have known that period in order to base their calendar around it, they would have had to witness at least two of its approaches, each one 5,000 years apart, and record the date of each, with enough accuracy to predict the exact date of the next one.
Then, you run into the problem that if this pile of bad shit happens exactly every 5,125 years, there should be cave paintings or some other artifacts somewhere else in the world depicting it too, which could be carbon dated to show that it coincides with the Mayan calendar.
There's also the fact that for this hypothetical comet or asteroid or whatever to be able to affect the Earth just by passing us, it'd need to be pretty goddamn big. Many times the size of the moon, because for a predictable 5,000 year cycle it would need to be able to wreak havoc on the Earth from farther away than the moon is (otherwise for most of its approaches it would harmlessly pass us). Something with that much gravitional pull would also fuck with all the other bodies in the solar system it passed, not just Earth. If it did this every 5,000 years, it would leave noticable orbital irregularities, like with our moon, or Mars' two peanuts, Phobos and Deimos.
tl;dr - Every last bit of this 2012 crap is 200 proof pseudoscientific bullshit.
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Then, you run into the problem that if this pile of bad shit happens exactly every 5,125 years, there should be cave paintings or some other artifacts somewhere else in the world depicting it too, which could be carbon dated to show that it coincides with the Mayan calendar.
Actually, there are "records". But I suppose they're open to interpretation.
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Then, you run into the problem that if this pile of bad shit happens exactly every 5,125 years, there should be cave paintings or some other artifacts somewhere else in the world depicting it too, which could be carbon dated to show that it coincides with the Mayan calendar.
Actually, there are "records". But I suppose they're open to interpretation.
records of jews doing it
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Then, you run into the problem that if this pile of bad shit happens exactly every 5,125 years, there should be cave paintings or some other artifacts somewhere else in the world depicting it too, which could be carbon dated to show that it coincides with the Mayan calendar.
Actually, there are "records". But I suppose they're open to interpretation.
records of jews doing it
:|
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Then, you run into the problem that if this pile of bad shit happens exactly every 5,125 years, there should be cave paintings or some other artifacts somewhere else in the world depicting it too, which could be carbon dated to show that it coincides with the Mayan calendar.
Actually, there are "records". But I suppose they're open to interpretation.
records of jews doing it
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The Jews always do it.
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21 December 2012 -- End of authoritarianism
22 December 2012 -- Beginning of a voluntary society
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I'm gonna do my best to drink myself to death before then just in case.
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http://dad2059.wordpress.com/2008/04/01/ancient-sumerians-record-meteor-event/ (http://dad2059.wordpress.com/2008/04/01/ancient-sumerians-record-meteor-event/)
This article seems to think the ancient Sumerians astronomers recorded meteor event which may have caused the flood 5000 years ago.
Even if there was a celestial body agitating and increase in meteors hurled at earth on a 5000 year rotation it would be hard to prove. Many impact craters created by asteroids are simply hidden. They happen in areas which leave little or no visible record like the ocean or places where grow over can obscure their existence. Also, it isn't like there is a multitude of cave paintings from 10k years ago found on every spec of land across the globe to act as a human record of these sorts of events. Scientist speculate there were only approximately 8 million humans on the planet 10k years ago. Now factor in Earth's mass total: 510.072 million sq km of which land: 148.94 million sq km and water: 361.132 million sq km, note: 70.8% of the world's surface is water, 29.2% is land. How much of that can 8 million people cover as ancient reporters of celestial events?
An Oregon scientist's theory says incoming space junk wiped out the Clovis people 13,000 years ago, leaving diamonds behind as an intriguing clue. I don't know but is it possible their time line is off and the actual events happened either 10k years ago or 15k years ago. Just not sure on how the scientist achieve their date accuracy. But it is an interesting theory that attempts to explain the disappearance of not only the Clovis people but many of the animals like the mastodons and giant sloths in North America around the same time. http://crosscut.com/2009/02/11/science-environment/18840/ (http://crosscut.com/2009/02/11/science-environment/18840/)
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You got me. I can't conclusively prove that a wild-ass scenario pulled out of somebody's ass ISN"T going to happen. Since the burden of proof is always on the skeptic then I must concede that we are all going to die on 12/21/2012. :P
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Oh yeah, funny thing about the large hadron collider. They haven't used it yet. I mean, yes, they have turned it on. Yes they fired a particle. I don't even think that one particle made the entire circuit before they had to shut the thing down for a coolant leak, or whatever. They are going through repairs now, I think. Most reports that covered the initial test took the tone of "see, the world didn't end".
Or is this just the cover story for the catastrophic mistake they made while they desperately search for a way to fix it?
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You got me. I can't conclusively prove that a wild-ass scenario pulled out of somebody's ass ISN"T going to happen. Since the burden of proof is always on the skeptic then I must concede that we are all going to die on 12/21/2012. :P
Actually there are ways to discount the theory of a cyclical nature of asteroid hits on earth. Pointing out that asteroids have hit the earth at other times than on that cyclical pattern. IE. The 1908 Siberian Asteroid hit. There are some 170 known impact creators found on Earth what are the estimated dates of those? If they are all over the time line wouldn't that tend to prove the random nature and total lack of predictability of meteor or asteroid hits on Earth? Really you skeptics are just getting so lazy. :P
I don't have any data on the ages of impact creators. But wouldn't it give someone some pause if they all fell within 100 year range of being on that 5000 year interval? I am highly skeptical that the date could be so narrowly pinpointed to a specific day. I posted what I thought was the more scientific hypothesis. Addressing a possible cyclical nature to increased meteor of asteroid activity.
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That movie is $200 million worth of special effects masturbation.
I need to find a way to make money of the apocalypse-idiots, though.
Well you could start making a website now.
http://www.december212012.org/Survival_Supplies.htm
Oops too late.
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also
http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/2012
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That's my birthday. It must be a sign.
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That's my birthday. It must be a sign.
Any Mayan heritage? If so, your lucky the civ died out. I bet they would sacrife you on a bloody altar in a heartbeat.
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So, since the world is ending the day after my birthday, how fucked up should i get?
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The world's been predicted to end many times during my lifetime. I suppose I'll survive many more such predictions.
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god damn it, rational wiki's down
anyway, my vote now goes to Space Masons going back in time and becoming the Mayans with 2012 being the time the first Masonic Temple in Space was inaugurated.
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My B-Day is Dec 10
By design, it's also my son's B-day (it was a C-section)
We have a lot of B-days in NH around the End of the World. I'm thinkin' we need some hardcore carnival-style partyin'