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Bill Brasky

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Re: College costs going to kill us students.
« Reply #45 on: August 18, 2011, 03:54:13 PM »

Guess which state is leading the way by a large margin?

Be loud, be proud. It's New Hampshire.


I recommend community college for at least 2 years for anyone thinking about going to college unless they can get college for free.  I don't wish a large college related debt on anyone but the government shouldn't pay for adults to go to college.  I'm glad NH (and not just this year) is out front, leading on this issue.

What difference does it make if the school is subsidized by the county or the state?  Its all tax funded.

Where I come from, thats called "welfare".

Fuckin' kindergarden in a private school is ten grand, dude.  

College is a tad more than that.




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« Reply #46 on: October 18, 2011, 02:28:44 AM »

What difference does it make if the school is subsidized by the county or the state?  Its all tax funded.

Where I come from, thats called "welfare".

Fuckin' kindergarden in a private school is ten grand, dude.  

College is a tad more than that.

Counties in NH don't subsidize college.  Before this year, the NH government paid less to subsidize college than any other state.  NH cut it's subsidization of government colleges by 48% this year.

I don't know how much kindergarten costs in NH.  The average cost per student at a government school in Keene, NH is around $17,000 per year.  The average cost per student at a private school in NH is considerably less.  The average coast per student at a government college is also less.  It is strange that it costs more to send a student to Keene Middle School then Keene State College but maybe Keene Middle School being 100% government funded and Keene State College being mostly privately funded is part of the reason.
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« Reply #48 on: October 18, 2011, 05:59:00 PM »



Counties in NH don't subsidize college. 


http://www.rivervalley.edu/financialaid.html

I see, so there is a possibility that either of us are correct but my guess is neither of us care enough about the issue to look into it.
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« Reply #49 on: October 18, 2011, 06:23:42 PM »

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« Reply #50 on: October 18, 2011, 06:54:52 PM »

My college tuition has tripled since I started going to school.
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« Reply #51 on: October 18, 2011, 07:21:31 PM »

My college tuition has tripled since I started going to school.

Mine went up by a factor of 8 or 10 in the 80s.
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« Reply #52 on: October 18, 2011, 08:58:25 PM »



Counties in NH don't subsidize college. 


http://www.rivervalley.edu/financialaid.html

I see, so there is a possibility that either of us are correct but my guess is neither of us care enough about the issue to look into it.

No, there is ZERO possibility that you're correct.  I did look into it.  It took me about ten seconds.  Its not like its a big secret where community colleges get a portion of their funding.  (aka subsidization)   

I donno why you're insisting that the county doesn't contribute. 

Heres a hint...  If the name of the college or university says "State" in it, or "County", or "Community", its probably tax funded.  River Valley is no exception.. 

Personally, I don't draw any distinction between State and County/Community colleges, for the purposes of this discussion.  I'm not talking about the quality of the education in any way, just where the money comes from.

Might wanna cruise Wiki for a bit more elaboration on the topic, since you're allowing yourself to overlook perhaps a billion dollars worth of funding for maybe ~fifty thousand students in your state. 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_New_Hampshire

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_System_of_New_Hampshire

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_College_System_of_New_Hampshire

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_university

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_university


Its actually pretty interesting how the educational system works.  Its a huge antiquated money hole, and the majority of college educated people have utilized it. 

All you have to do is look at the factoid block on any college in Wiki, and note if it says Public or Private.  If it's Public, its tax-funded. 




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« Reply #53 on: October 18, 2011, 09:33:20 PM »

I've often wondered..........

With the majority of people getting degrees in the US now, how is it possible for them all to get upper management positions?

Its like this class here at Richland Community College......... Class for Hospitality Management (hotel manager) 45 people took the course according to my gf and plan on passing. How are they all going to be hotel managers? There are only 5 or so hotels in the immediate area that pay enough to make taking a college course in the field worth while, not to mention that all 5 of those have managers already who I'd imagine plan on staying there into the forseeable future. Now, extrapolate this scenario into about a couple of dozen other fields. Far more people getting degrees than there are positions to fill.


The math doesn't add up.

Somethin's fucky!
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Re: College costs going to kill us students.
« Reply #54 on: October 18, 2011, 10:39:53 PM »



Counties in NH don't subsidize college. 


http://www.rivervalley.edu/financialaid.html

I see, so there is a possibility that either of us are correct but my guess is neither of us care enough about the issue to look into it.

No, there is ZERO possibility that you're correct.  I did look into it.  It took me about ten seconds.  Its not like its a big secret where community colleges get a portion of their funding.  (aka subsidization)   

I donno why you're insisting that the county doesn't contribute. 

I am not.  I said you may be right.  I may be right.  I don't know for sure man.  I understand that the community colleges in NH are partially funded by the government.  I have seem zero evidence that suggest any of the funding comes from the counties, though.  If I bothered to look up a county budget or community college budget, I could likely find out for sure.  However, neither of us seems willing to spend the time to look it up.  I guess this just isn't a big deal to either of us.
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« Reply #55 on: October 19, 2011, 03:38:32 AM »

I've often wondered..........

With the majority of people getting degrees in the US now, how is it possible for them all to get upper management positions?

Its like this class here at Richland Community College......... Class for Hospitality Management (hotel manager) 45 people took the course according to my gf and plan on passing. How are they all going to be hotel managers? There are only 5 or so hotels in the immediate area that pay enough to make taking a college course in the field worth while, not to mention that all 5 of those have managers already who I'd imagine plan on staying there into the forseeable future. Now, extrapolate this scenario into about a couple of dozen other fields. Far more people getting degrees than there are positions to fill.


The math doesn't add up.

Somethin's fucky!

I only know about that major because I work with one or two people that have it. They get small time manager positions within wedding/event caterers as well. Not just hotel work but any ass-kissing sort of job.
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« Reply #56 on: October 19, 2011, 04:29:20 AM »

You can't cut out the relevant links that don't support your position.

What the fuck dude.

And in fact, that one provided says LOCAL right in it.  

And READ the one that says http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_College_System_of_New_Hampshire

Which explains the county funding EXPLICITLY.


I cannot spell it out any clearer.  You are not reading.  

Stop not reading.





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« Reply #57 on: October 19, 2011, 09:19:35 AM »

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And in fact, that one provided says LOCAL right in it.  

And READ the one that says http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_College_System_of_New_Hampshire

I cannot spell it out any clearer.  You are not reading.  

Stop not reading.

Thank you.  I totally agree.  For example, if you click on that link and do a control + F search the would county doesn't show up.  I love it when people post links to something completely different than what is being talked about.




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« Reply #58 on: October 19, 2011, 10:52:16 PM »

I've often wondered..........

With the majority of people getting degrees in the US now, how is it possible for them all to get upper management positions?

Its like this class here at Richland Community College......... Class for Hospitality Management (hotel manager) 45 people took the course according to my gf and plan on passing. How are they all going to be hotel managers? There are only 5 or so hotels in the immediate area that pay enough to make taking a college course in the field worth while, not to mention that all 5 of those have managers already who I'd imagine plan on staying there into the forseeable future. Now, extrapolate this scenario into about a couple of dozen other fields. Far more people getting degrees than there are positions to fill.


The math doesn't add up.

Somethin's fucky!

I don't know why more people don't see it this way.  Not everyone gets to be the boss. It's never going to happen.  Too many people go to college these days, and end up working out of their degree field anyway. Heck most people could be done with school by 8th grade after basic geometry and algebra.
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« Reply #59 on: November 10, 2011, 10:45:42 PM »

Kid just got sent a letter by the former Presidential MD, accepted into some sort of pre-college 10-day advanced academics program - based on the recommendation of her guidance councilor.  Its worth 2 credits, accepted at most schools.  

$2,600

It'd be kinda nice if they ran it by us before they signed her up for stuff.  Goddamn letter looked like a wedding invitation.  

Now I'm gonna have to pull strings and get that fee waived.  How is it possible that I get swamped with the Most Important Shit Ever, every single fucking day?  

I need a pill before blood starts squirting out of my ears.    I think a DVM costs about a hundred-fifty fuckin' grand.  

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