Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...

[NHArticleTen]

I am so tired of this tumor of a thread I can't even put it into words that would do it justice.

Everyone quit picking on Gene.

Gene, get yourself a damned blog already.

well...you know it would not have had 30,600 views if it would have just said "anarchy"...

but I'll bet FTL got alot of "extra" hits...say thirty thousand or so...lol

IMHO..."many" so-called "christians" support the mobocracy and it's aggression/force/fraud...and it's pure hell converting them to voluntaryism...

I agree.  "Christians" are hard to convert to freedom, but I'm working on it...

devil worshipers are more easily convinced to leave everyone else alone...

IMHO...if "christians" got "back" instantly...all the aggregated aggression/force/fraud they themselves have advocated and participated-in...they would all die immediately...

and the rest would either leave everyone else alone...or be repelled, destroyed, and eliminated...


onward christian mobocracy looter minions indeed...

straight to hell...



ask how I really feel...meh...

[HOO-HAA]

Everyone quit picking on Gene.

He kinda asked for it! 

[ChristianAnarchist]

Everyone quit picking on Gene.

He kinda asked for it! 

Actually, I don't recall making such a request.  It does look like you might just have to put up with me for awhile longer since I "almost" got electrocuted but miraculously did not get any current...

[hellbilly]

Are you saying this was a miracle?

[Taors]

Are you saying this was a miracle?

I'd say so.

[Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith)]

A review of recent posts finds a concern that freewill cannot exist because God knows the future.  I hardly find this convincing.  Because someone has KNOWLEDGE of what you will do is not the same as MAKING you do it.  You have the freewill to make your decisions.  You were CREATED with freewill AND rights.  Your rights and your freewill follow you wherever you travel  in the universe.  When I'm in China, I have a right to keep and bear arms, for instance.  There are, however, armed CULT MEMBERS who feel (mistakenly) that they have authority to take my weapons or even kill me.  That does not mean that my rights do not exist, it means that a gang of thugs want to VIOLATE those rights.  If I were to carry a pistol in China (they are available on the black market) I would do so concealed.  Indeed, in China, it is less likely that I would be searched then here...

Gene, I think you are making epic fail here because you are ascribing human characteristics to God which is blasphemous.  The reason we do not refer to God by his true name is because it is impossible for us to comprehend because God is so much more than human that it is fallacious to ascribe human characteristics to him.  Referring to "God's Knowledge" or "God's Intent" or "God's Love" are all blasphemous.  That is because it is blasphemy to reduce God to the level of a human, when he is so much more. 

God is everywhere and everything.  Not some man in a chair high in the sky casting thunderbolts and dictating the lives of insignificant humans. 

To defile God by supposing that he "feels" human characteristics like love and hate or knowledge or jealousy is blasphemy in all religious with Judaic roots.


Oh yeah, and

Humans have free will.

[ChristianAnarchist]

Are you saying this was a miracle?

Absolutely.  I had one hand on ground and the other on a live current wire.  Didn't get any current at all.  I really should be dead right now.  I've seen a "safety video" where the showed actual footage of an 18 y/o kid washing his car and he had a vacuum cleaner and was standing in water.  The instant the kid's hand hit the ground, he dropped like a stone and could not be revived...

[Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith)]

Are you saying this was a miracle?

Absolutely.  I had one hand on ground and the other on a live current wire.  Didn't get any current at all.  I really should be dead right now.  I've seen a "safety video" where the showed actual footage of an 18 y/o kid washing his car and he had a vacuum cleaner and was standing in water.  The instant the kid's hand hit the ground, he dropped like a stone and could not be revived...

There was something you probably just missed, like the circuit was still open somewhere and you just didn't realize it.  Perhaps that was miraculous.  I believe either everything is a miracle or nothing is.

[ChristianAnarchist]

A review of recent posts finds a concern that freewill cannot exist because God knows the future.  I hardly find this convincing.  Because someone has KNOWLEDGE of what you will do is not the same as MAKING you do it.  You have the freewill to make your decisions.  You were CREATED with freewill AND rights.  Your rights and your freewill follow you wherever you travel  in the universe.  When I'm in China, I have a right to keep and bear arms, for instance.  There are, however, armed CULT MEMBERS who feel (mistakenly) that they have authority to take my weapons or even kill me.  That does not mean that my rights do not exist, it means that a gang of thugs want to VIOLATE those rights.  If I were to carry a pistol in China (they are available on the black market) I would do so concealed.  Indeed, in China, it is less likely that I would be searched then here...

Gene, I think you are making epic fail here because you are ascribing human characteristics to God which is blasphemous.  The reason we do not refer to God by his true name is because it is impossible for us to comprehend because God is so much more than human that it is fallacious to ascribe human characteristics to him.  Referring to "God's Knowledge" or "God's Intent" or "God's Love" are all blasphemous.  That is because it is blasphemy to reduce God to the level of a human, when he is so much more. 

God is everywhere and everything.  Not some man in a chair high in the sky casting thunderbolts and dictating the lives of insignificant humans. 

To defile God by supposing that he "feels" human characteristics like love and hate or knowledge or jealousy is blasphemy in all religious with Judaic roots.


Oh yeah, and

Humans have free will.

I re-read what I posted and I can't see where I said anything about the nature of God other than to make a reference to Him knowing the future.  Still, I don't accept your claim that it is "blasphemy" to claim that God could have some similarities between His nature and ours.  You can claim that if you like and maybe you are right (but then again, maybe you are wrong).  I certainly don't see where God has indicated to me that I have somehow defiled Him with my words...

[ChristianAnarchist]

Are you saying this was a miracle?

Absolutely.  I had one hand on ground and the other on a live current wire.  Didn't get any current at all.  I really should be dead right now.  I've seen a "safety video" where the showed actual footage of an 18 y/o kid washing his car and he had a vacuum cleaner and was standing in water.  The instant the kid's hand hit the ground, he dropped like a stone and could not be revived...

There was something you probably just missed, like the circuit was still open somewhere and you just didn't realize it.  Perhaps that was miraculous.  I believe either everything is a miracle or nothing is.

No, I had just plugged it in to check with my meter that the fuse was hot on one end and dead on the other.  There's no doubt that what I touched was hot.  Of course you can believe what ever you like as most everyone's beliefs differ.

[Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith)]

A review of recent posts finds a concern that freewill cannot exist because God knows the future.  I hardly find this convincing.  Because someone has KNOWLEDGE of what you will do is not the same as MAKING you do it.  You have the freewill to make your decisions.  You were CREATED with freewill AND rights.  Your rights and your freewill follow you wherever you travel  in the universe.  When I'm in China, I have a right to keep and bear arms, for instance.  There are, however, armed CULT MEMBERS who feel (mistakenly) that they have authority to take my weapons or even kill me.  That does not mean that my rights do not exist, it means that a gang of thugs want to VIOLATE those rights.  If I were to carry a pistol in China (they are available on the black market) I would do so concealed.  Indeed, in China, it is less likely that I would be searched then here...

Gene, I think you are making epic fail here because you are ascribing human characteristics to God which is blasphemous.  The reason we do not refer to God by his true name is because it is impossible for us to comprehend because God is so much more than human that it is fallacious to ascribe human characteristics to him.  Referring to "God's Knowledge" or "God's Intent" or "God's Love" are all blasphemous.  That is because it is blasphemy to reduce God to the level of a human, when he is so much more. 

God is everywhere and everything.  Not some man in a chair high in the sky casting thunderbolts and dictating the lives of insignificant humans. 

To defile God by supposing that he "feels" human characteristics like love and hate or knowledge or jealousy is blasphemy in all religious with Judaic roots.


Oh yeah, and

Humans have free will.

I re-read what I posted and I can't see where I said anything about the nature of God other than to make a reference to Him knowing the future.  Still, I don't accept your claim that it is "blasphemy" to claim that God could have some similarities between His nature and ours.  You can claim that if you like and maybe you are right (but then again, maybe you are wrong).  I certainly don't see where God has indicated to me that I have somehow defiled Him with my words...

Simply by ascribing human characteristics to God you are defiling him by bringing him down to the level of humans, when he is so much more, literally EVERYTHING more because of God's omnipotence.  You by likening yourself to God, not only are you risking violation of the 1st Commandment, but you are also degrading God to the comparatively extremely low level of humanity.

[mikehz]

The real reason why you're not supposed to use God's name is that, in the Jewish mythology, doing so would summoned Him into your presence. If you call forth God, you'd better have a damn good reason! After all, He is a busy deity, what with the smiting and all.

Actually, you CAN summon forth God, provided you actually have a good reason. Like, wanting to ask him to kill your enemies, for example.

This is why the ancient Jews would never utter the name of--you know who. Even more sever was to (gasp) write it down. For this reason, they would leave some of the letters of his name out, just to be safe. To be even safer still, they would call Him by the general term, "God," rather than by his given (?) name.

[Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith)]

The real reason why you're not supposed to use God's name is that, in the Jewish mythology, doing so would summoned Him into your presence. If you call forth God, you'd better have a damn good reason! After all, He is a busy deity, what with the smiting and all.

Actually, you CAN summon forth God, provided you actually have a good reason. Like, wanting to ask him to kill your enemies, for example.

This is why the ancient Jews would never utter the name of--you know who. Even more sever was to (gasp) write it down. For this reason, they would leave some of the letters of his name out, just to be safe. To be even safer still, they would call Him by the general term, "God," rather than by his given (?) name.

Actually according to several of the rabbis I've spoken with, and my own interpretation, it's because of the reason I just listed above.

[ChristianAnarchist]

Simply by ascribing human characteristics to God you are defiling him by bringing him down to the level of humans, when he is so much more, literally EVERYTHING more because of God's omnipotence.  You by likening yourself to God, not only are you risking violation of the 1st Commandment, but you are also degrading God to the comparatively extremely low level of humanity.

You can certainly make the claim that "God doesn't like X" but I certainly don't have to accept it.  I don't accept that I cannot say certain things about God as that will "defile" Him.  Perhaps he feels flattered when we try to ascribe "human" traits to Him.  After all, He is our "Father" according to my belief and fathers in general love to have their little offspring make cute motions toward being like "dada"...

[Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith)]

Simply by ascribing human characteristics to God you are defiling him by bringing him down to the level of humans, when he is so much more, literally EVERYTHING more because of God's omnipotence.  You by likening yourself to God, not only are you risking violation of the 1st Commandment, but you are also degrading God to the comparatively extremely low level of humanity.

You can certainly make the claim that "God doesn't like X" but I certainly don't have to accept it.  I don't accept that I cannot say certain things about God as that will "defile" Him.  Perhaps he feels flattered when we try to ascribe "human" traits to Him.  After all, He is our "Father" according to my belief and fathers in general love to have their little offspring make cute motions toward being like "dada"...

I didn't say that God likes this or that, I said that likening God to a human by ascribing human traits to him is degrading defilement, blasphemy, and a violation of the 1st Commandment.  Saying that God likes this or that would be ascribing human traits to him which would be a defilement of his name.