Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...

[theghostofbj]

I have real things to tend to.

Like calling into FTL and saying stupid shit?

[Taors]

Taors sure likes the homo stuff.  You and joe are quite a couple...

pwn3d by Gene.  Sorry man. 

Like the "judgement" of a little girl who likes to talk about her genitals to a bunch of losers who can't get a date means anything...

Okay, we'll all go back to not giving you kudos when you say something that makes sense.  Is this supposed to be your method of reverse-psychology or something? 

Like I care about "kudos"...  I have real things to tend to.

Like spreading the message of Christianity and Anarchy to people who don't give a shit?

[Lindsey]

Taors sure likes the homo stuff.  You and joe are quite a couple...

pwn3d by Gene.  Sorry man. 

Like the "judgement" of a little girl who likes to talk about her genitals to a bunch of losers who can't get a date means anything...

Okay, we'll all go back to not giving you kudos when you say something that makes sense.  Is this supposed to be your method of reverse-psychology or something? 

Like I care about "kudos"...  I have real things to tend to.

Real things eh?  Like a really long thread about Christian Anarchy?  Don't go calling us losers - you continue to come here. 

[Taors]

I have real things to tend to.

Like calling into FTL and saying stupid shit?

HAY GUYZ I JUS WANTED 2 CALL IN N SAY DAT DA IRS IS REALLLLY REALLY BAD!

[ChristianAnarchist]

Lindsey and the rest of you PWN youselves with pretty much every post.  The imaturity of you as a group is quite amazing...

The same could be said about you. I haven't seen one mature post from you in this thread.

Hey, I can give as well as get.  You guys started and I will continue, but not now.  I have real living to do so I'll have to catch up on all this fantastic banter some other time (gosh, how will I be able to stay away??)

[Taors]

Lindsey and the rest of you PWN youselves with pretty much every post.  The imaturity of you as a group is quite amazing...

The same could be said about you. I haven't seen one mature post from you in this thread.

Hey, I can give as well as get.  You guys started and I will continue, but not now.  I have real living to do so I'll have to catch up on all this fantastic banter some other time (gosh, how will I be able to stay away??)

Jesus said to turn the other cheek you fucking blasphemer.

[theghostofbj]

Someones having Chinese tonight.

[Richard_III]

LOL! GENE GENE....THE RETARD MACHINE!

[Taors]

I bet he's using chopsticks.

I wonder what she'll use on his old hairy balls?

[Richard_III]

If this continues any further, I bet the muslim on here will go eastward.

Kill 2 doves of peace with one stone. The "stone" being hilarity, of course.

[theghostofbj]

I bet he's using chopsticks.

I wonder what she'll use on his old hairy balls?

Someone get that man some Nair.

[money dollars]

Don't go calling us losers 

i'm a loser 

[money dollars]

I like this version of the jesus story better:

The Gospel of the Holy Twelve
AKA
The Gospel of the Perfect Life

TRANSLATED FROM THE ORIGINAL ARAMAIC
AND EDITED BY THE REV. GIDEON JASPER RICHARD OUSELEY

    Introduction

    An Irish clergyman, Rev. G. J. Ouseley claims to have discovered the Original Gospel from which the present Four Gospels were derived, which, he says, was "preserved in one of the Buddhist monasteries in Tibet, where it was hidden by some of the Essene Community for safety from the hands of the corrupters, and is now for the first time translated from the Aramaic."

    This statement was made by Rev. Ouseley in a preface to his publication of this Gospel, in a book entitled "Gospel of the Holy Twelve." E. F. Udny, in an introduction to this work, writes:

    "At the time of the corruption of the Gospels, the Epistles and Revelation' were presumably already in existence, and if the Gospels were tampered with, so no doubt was the rest of the New Testament, which is now equally destitute of the teachings removed from the Gospels. It may well be that uncorrupted copies of the Epistles and Revelation were similarly sent by the Essenes to the safety of a Buddhist monastery, and that, when the world has assimilated to the New Gospel, those, too, may be give us."

    Rev. Ouseley claims that he received a transcription Of the Original Gospel from a Buddhist monastery in Tibet where it is preserved. In this documant the teachings of Jesus includes an admonition for his followers to practice the seventh day sabbath, non-violence to all living creatures and the secret to eternal life.

    Rev. Ouseley writes:
    "The early Christian Fathers did well their work of destroying the sources and records from which they gathered the information and data put by them in the Bible. But they failed to destroy it all. Some escaped, and as it is discovered here and there by patient research workers, it is astonishing to see how the world has been deceived by the Christian Fathers.

    "The Original Gospel is preserved in one of the Buddhist monasteries in Tibet, and is written in Aramaic. These 'correctors' (men authorized to 'correct' the text of Scripture in the interests of what was considered orthodoxy) cut out of the Gospels with minute care certain teachings of Our Lord's which they did not propose to 'follow, namely, those against flesh eating, such as accounts of our Lord's interference, on several occasions, to save animals from ill treatment, and even the interesting and important teachings ever prominent in Eastern scriptures."

    We have referred elsewhere to the "correctors" who were hired by the Church Fathers at the Council of Nicea to alter the original text of the Gospels, leaving out those doctrines that were obnoxious to their emperor, Constantine, whom they desired to convert to Christianity, which he opposed. Chief among these objectionable doctrines were the prohibition against the use of flesh meat and alcohol, and the recommendation of kindness to animals, all of which constituted the fundamental doctrines of the teachings of Christ. On this point Udny writes: "The great significance of the corruption of the Text lies rather in the nature of the matter struct out by the 'correctors' than in the amount. It is evident that the 'correctors' and those who appointed them were at least unwilling to denounce their beef and beer, a convenient alliteration for flesh and alcohol."

    In the original Sanscrit and Aramaic gospel, the duty of abstaining from meat and wine were emphasized, while in the later versions, it was omitted. Since those who founded the Christian Church, like their emperor, Constantine, were meat eaters and drinkers of wine, naturally they were opposed to these doctrines, whose acceptance would involve a revolutionary transformation of their living habits, they interpreted the first promise to mean, "Thou shalt not kill". implying that the commandment applied only to humans and that the slaughter of animals was not killing.

    The Original Gospel, representing the teachings of Christ, the Lord of Love, taught harmlessness and compassion to all living beings, including both animals and humans. For reasons above stated, the Roman Churchmen at Nicea opposed these doctrines and eliminated them from the Gospels, which they radically changed so as to be acceptable to Constantine, who loved the red meats and flowing wine of his midnight feasts too much to accept a religion that prohibited these pleasures, which was a main reason why he so bitterly persecuted the early Christians who advocated these doctrines. For this reason the Church Fathers changed the Gospel in such a way that Love and Compassion were limited only to human beings but the animal expressions of life were excluded from receiving these benefits. But the savior of the Original Gospel, as Christ were represented to be, was a redeemer of the animal world, as he was of men, seeking to alleviate the sufferings of all living beings.

    "The all pitying love of Our Savior embraces not only mankind, but also the so-called lower creatures of God, sharers with us of the one breath of life, and with us on the road of ascent to that which is higher. Never has the providence with which the All-Merciful watches over man and beast alike been more impressively brought home to us than in the saying of the Savior, 'Are not five sparrows sold for two farthings, but not one of them is forgotten by God'. How were it possible to doubt that the Savior would have pity and compassion on the creatures who must bear their pain in silence? Would it not seem a blasphemy if it were said that He would behold without pity or succor the ill-treatment of helpless animals? Nay, rather, when he brought redemption to a world sunk in selfishness, hard heartedness and misery, and proclaimed the gospel of all embracing love, there was a share in this redemption for all suffering creatures; since when man opened his heart to the divine love, there could be no room left in it for pitiless hardness toward the other creatures of God, who have, like himself, been called into life with a capacity for enjoyment and suffering.

    'Those who bear the mark of the Redeemer practice His all pitying love; and how little it is that the minimum of compassion for helpless creatures demand of us; Only not to inflict on them torture; to help them when they are in trouble, or when they appeal to us for succor, and if of necessity we take their life, to let it be a speedy death with the least pain-a gentle sleep. But, alas, how little we are penetrated with these divine lessons of mercy and compassion. How many grievous tortures are inflicted on them, under the pretense of science, or to gratify an unnatural appetite, or cruel lusts, or the promptings of vanity!"

    We shall now present the Original Gospel claimed by Rev. Ouseley to have been preserved since the early centuries of our era in a Buddhist monastery in Tibet, which expounds the doctrines of Christ on universal compassion, vegetarianism and kindness to animals (involving abolition of animal sacrifices). Of which teachings the barbarous practice of animal sacrifices, which was recommended by the Old Testament, a book accepted as holy and divinely inspired by both the Jews and Christians, was abolished and rejected by the New Christian Church, so that it never played a part in Christianity as it did in original Judaism.

    After the Council of Nicea, when this gospel was changed to suit Constantine, as well as converted into Four Gospels, "Jesus Christ" while his humane, vegetarian and pacifistic doctrines were largely eliminated and replaced by a false supernaturalism.

    Rev. G. J. Ouseley

    In 1881 an English minister, Rev. G. J. Ouseley, got hold of a hitherto unknown, not rewritten evangelical text. This uncorrupted text has century after century been secured from all falsification in a buddistic monastary in Tibet, since the day a man has hidden it there, an man of the Essene society. Ouseley translated the Aramaic text and gave it the name The Gospel of the Holy Twelve. It has later been translated into German.

    During the last century also many old fragments of the gospel have come into light. Some of them have been found in old libraries and other from excavations. These fragments are called Logins or Agraphas. They a older than and more original than the canonized gospels. Their great value is due to the fact that they are uncorrupted. The curious thing is, however, that many parts of these fragments mostly agree, word for word, with the Gospel of Ouseley, though they are completely missing in the canonical gospels.

    The Hungarian physician, Prof. Edmond Szekely, found some ten years ago a evangelical text in the royal library in Wien, written in old Slavonian language; he copied it. Later he found the original to the old Slavonian translation in the Vatican library. The original, that was translated into the Slavonian language, was written in Aramaic, Szekely in 1937 published the parts which deal with the health of the human body, about 1/8th of the text. His pamphlet was published in German under the name of Heliand.

    END

[dharveymi]

Phony "Paul" has so convinced himself that the return of Christ would occur in his lifetime, or in that of his next generation. Paul is so sure of this return, that he advises the "virgins" to not even bother to get married and procreate!!! Paul is actually encouraging a self administered genocide of his own people!!! OOOPS...well 2 thousand years later and we are all still waiting for this return of Christ.

What is odd about Paul's pathetic prediction, is that Paul claims to be in contact with the spirit of Christ. The Ghostly "Christ" would occasionally give Paul information that was to be forwarded to the Christian followers. How is it that Paul could be so OFF with such an important prediction, when he claims to communicate with the very Christ, himself?!?!?!

There must have been a mix up with those transcendental radio waves between Jesus and Paul.

anywayz, if you believe in this silly book, then you are either brainwashed or too desperate for closure.

I just love the level of discussion on this thread.  I understand that there are people who call themselves Christians who are hateful people.  Gene is not one of them.  There are people who call themselves Americans who are hateful people.  Are all Americans evil?  Aren't we all on 'Liberty's' side?  Don't you all have some strange beliefs?  Haven't you been criticized by others for those beliefs?  Do you want to be criticized more often?

Anyway,

I agree that Paul believed that the second coming of Christ was near.  I agree that Jesus spoke with Paul on a personal basis.  I don't believe that everything Paul wrote came directly from the lips of God.  I believe Paul was correctly interpreting the "signs of the times", prophecies that would indicate that the end of the world was near.  I believe the was giving good advice to his followers.

The misconception here is there is some set time for Christ's return.  There is no set time.  God in His mercy has delayed the second coming of His Son.  This delay is needed so the principles of His kingdom can perfectly be reproduced in His people.  If Paul's followers had taken his advice and dedicated themselves to the kingdom of God, God's will would have been done on earth, speeding the second coming of Christ and blessing all people on earth.  They did not follow his advice, God's kingdom was not furthered on earth, Christ did not return.  The blame rests not with Paul's relationship with Christ but with our relationship with Christ.

[Richard_III]

Phony "Paul" has so convinced himself that the return of Christ would occur in his lifetime, or in that of his next generation. Paul is so sure of this return, that he advises the "virgins" to not even bother to get married and procreate!!! Paul is actually encouraging a self administered genocide of his own people!!! OOOPS...well 2 thousand years later and we are all still waiting for this return of Christ.

What is odd about Paul's pathetic prediction, is that Paul claims to be in contact with the spirit of Christ. The Ghostly "Christ" would occasionally give Paul information that was to be forwarded to the Christian followers. How is it that Paul could be so OFF with such an important prediction, when he claims to communicate with the very Christ, himself?!?!?!

There must have been a mix up with those transcendental radio waves between Jesus and Paul.

anywayz, if you believe in this silly book, then you are either brainwashed or too desperate for closure.

I just love the level of discussion on this thread.  I understand that there are people who call themselves Christians who are hateful people.  Gene is not one of them.  There are people who call themselves Americans who are hateful people.  Are all Americans evil?  Aren't we all on 'Liberty's' side?  Don't you all have some strange beliefs?  Haven't you been criticized by others for those beliefs?  Do you want to be criticized more often?

Anyway,

I agree that Paul believed that the second coming of Christ was near.  I agree that Jesus spoke with Paul on a personal basis.  I don't believe that everything Paul wrote came directly from the lips of God.  I believe Paul was correctly interpreting the "signs of the times", prophecies that would indicate that the end of the world was near.  I believe the was giving good advice to his followers.

The misconception here is there is some set time for Christ's return.  There is no set time.  God in His mercy has delayed the second coming of His Son.  This delay is needed so the principles of His kingdom can perfectly be reproduced in His people.  If Paul's followers had taken his advice and dedicated themselves to the kingdom of God, God's will would have been done on earth, speeding the second coming of Christ and blessing all people on earth.  They did not follow his advice, God's kingdom was not furthered on earth, Christ did not return.  The blame rests not with Paul's relationship with Christ but with our relationship with Christ.

The clear-minded philosophers know what the truth is. If I were to tell you the truth, you would not believe me, and you may set out to try to destroy the knowledge that the clear-minded philosophers have been transmitting, well before the age of the fictional Jesus. You do not take into account the esoteric elements of religion, and because of this, you feel compelled to wallow in whatever is openly given to you.

The truth is protected, and you perverts are forced to struggle with your ridiculous beliefs.