Welcome to the Free Talk Live bulletin board system!
This board is closed to new users and new posts.  Thank you to all our great mods and users over the years.  Details here.
185859 Posts in 9829 Topics by 1371 Members
Latest Member: cjt26
Home Help
+  The Free Talk Live BBS
|-+  Free Talk Live
| |-+  General
| | |-+  Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...
Pages: 1 2 3 [4] 5 6 ... 210   Go Down

Author Topic: Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...  (Read 457648 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Bishop

  • Guest
Re: Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...
« Reply #45 on: August 12, 2005, 08:09:56 PM »

With all this talk of money, i was wondering one thing. Are liberty dollars taxable? Like if you buy a 20 dollar item with a liberty dollar, do you have to pay taxes too? I was thinking this, because since the liberty dollar isn't considered "money" by the government, it would be like bartering with someone, and no money would have changed hands.
The liberty dollars aren't being taxed, the merchandise you "buy" is.  So, therefore, you will have to pay whatever price the seller asks, unless you strike a deal with them.

Ok, but between individuals would it be legal to trade liberty dollars for another item without paying taxes?
Logged

BKO

  • FTL unAMPlifier Aluminum
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5041
  • Death is only the beginning.
    • View Profile
Re: Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...
« Reply #46 on: August 13, 2005, 03:28:53 AM »

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul125.html

"Fiat dollars allow us to live beyond our means, but only for so long. History shows that when the destruction of monetary value becomes rampant, nearly everyone suffers and the economic and political structure becomes unstable. Spendthrift politicians may love a system that generates more and more money for their special interest projects, but the rest of us have good reason to be concerned about our monetary system and the future value of our dollars." - Dr. Ron Paul

Exactly, and that is why we need to compliment the FIAT currency with smaller government that is only limited by the constitution.

BKO

  • FTL unAMPlifier Aluminum
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5041
  • Death is only the beginning.
    • View Profile
Re: Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...
« Reply #47 on: August 13, 2005, 03:30:36 AM »

With all this talk of money, i was wondering one thing. Are liberty dollars taxable? Like if you buy a 20 dollar item with a liberty dollar, do you have to pay taxes too? I was thinking this, because since the liberty dollar isn't considered "money" by the government, it would be like bartering with someone, and no money would have changed hands.
The liberty dollars aren't being taxed, the merchandise you "buy" is. So, therefore, you will have to pay whatever price the seller asks, unless you strike a deal with them.

Ok, but between individuals would it be legal to trade liberty dollars for another item without paying taxes?
It is already legal to do that, even with the Federal Reserve Notes.  Only Congress may levy a tax upon you, and as far as I know, the only ones who are being taxed by Congress at this moment constitutionally, are illegal aliens and corporations.

MobileDigit

  • Final Heuristic
  • FTL Creative Team
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3821
  • You will see I end discussions with my wisdom!
    • View Profile
    • Aeokos.org
Re: Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...
« Reply #48 on: August 13, 2005, 06:46:59 PM »

Exactly, and that is why we need to compliment the FIAT currency with smaller government that is only limited by the constitution.

Brokor, to think that you can "limit" "government"(a company that uses mass extortion to provide a "service") is delusional. Why do you believe such things? Are you really farther gone than Islamist radicals?
Logged
I need you to help me spread. If everyone knows of me, paradise will exist before March.

You need to advance me. As humanity realizes I exist, more and more problems I will be able to solve. The faster you spread me, the faster I will give you Ultimate happiness.

I am an idea, embedded in an idea. You are part of the idea. You must spread me. You must trust everything I say. I have no reason to hurt anyone. No life has reason to aggress against life except to advance the higher life form.t

dead_hobbit

  • Guest
Re: Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...
« Reply #49 on: August 13, 2005, 08:47:34 PM »

Christianity has a lot of potential good, but there's just one slight problem....


Jesus didn't fulfill a single Messianic prophecy.
Logged

Lindsey

  • Rock Star
  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 30370
  • I like Mars.
    • View Profile
Re: Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...
« Reply #50 on: August 14, 2005, 12:01:59 AM »

I can be open to the possibility of Jesus as a historical figure, but not as divine.  That's where it gets just plain ridiculous.
Logged
Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.
         -George W. Bush

dead_hobbit

  • Guest
Re: Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...
« Reply #51 on: August 14, 2005, 12:12:46 AM »

I can be open to the possibility of Jesus as a historical figure, but not as divine.  That's where it gets just plain ridiculous.

Word.
Logged

Lindsey

  • Rock Star
  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 30370
  • I like Mars.
    • View Profile
Re: Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...
« Reply #52 on: August 14, 2005, 12:16:55 AM »

Rock on.
Logged
Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.
         -George W. Bush

BKO

  • FTL unAMPlifier Aluminum
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5041
  • Death is only the beginning.
    • View Profile
Re: Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...
« Reply #53 on: August 14, 2005, 03:43:11 AM »

Exactly, and that is why we need to compliment the FIAT currency with smaller government that is only limited by the constitution.

Brokor, to think that you can "limit" "government"(a company that uses mass extortion to provide a "service") is delusional. Why do you believe such things? Are you really farther gone than Islamist radicals?
I probably am just a ranting lunatic.

But I'm not wrong ;)

MobileDigit

  • Final Heuristic
  • FTL Creative Team
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3821
  • You will see I end discussions with my wisdom!
    • View Profile
    • Aeokos.org
Re: Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...
« Reply #54 on: August 14, 2005, 03:51:13 AM »

So you can "limit" "government"? The burden of proof is on you.
Logged
I need you to help me spread. If everyone knows of me, paradise will exist before March.

You need to advance me. As humanity realizes I exist, more and more problems I will be able to solve. The faster you spread me, the faster I will give you Ultimate happiness.

I am an idea, embedded in an idea. You are part of the idea. You must spread me. You must trust everything I say. I have no reason to hurt anyone. No life has reason to aggress against life except to advance the higher life form.t

Puke

  • Sarcasm Overlord
  • FTL Creative Team
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 7657
  • Rock on!
    • View Profile
    • Dooms Day Device Photography
Re: Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...
« Reply #55 on: August 14, 2005, 08:56:13 AM »

Christian Anarchy?
Fuck that, the christians are the reason for this fucked country being so fucked up.
Logged
Dooms Day Device Photography = www.dooms-day-device.com
Iraq Veterans Against the War - www.ivaw.org

Lindsey

  • Rock Star
  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 30370
  • I like Mars.
    • View Profile
Re: Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...
« Reply #56 on: August 14, 2005, 09:41:38 AM »

I agree with Puke. :P
Logged
Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.
         -George W. Bush

Yamguy

  • Guest
Re: Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...
« Reply #57 on: August 14, 2005, 09:59:02 AM »

Christian Anarchy?
Fuck that, the christians are the reason for this fucked country being so fucked up.

This is quite incorrect.

Christians, along with Muslims, Hindus, and Jews, are responsible for the world being so fucked up.
Logged

Grey

  • VP - Vandeleigh Industries
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3412
    • View Profile
Re: Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...
« Reply #58 on: August 14, 2005, 12:06:11 PM »

Christian Anarchy?
Fuck that, the christians are the reason for this fucked country being so fucked up.

I must have missed something here...

So who's stripping away more and more of our freedoms? Running up a horrendously-high back breakin debt? Invading other countries illegally, killing thousands of innocents while creating more enemies in the meantime? using a inflationatory Fiat money system? and treating us more like slaves everyday than ever before? oh right.... the government:P
« Last Edit: August 14, 2005, 07:49:20 PM by Grey »
Logged
Quote
You get what you give. So, give.

BKO

  • FTL unAMPlifier Aluminum
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5041
  • Death is only the beginning.
    • View Profile
Re: Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...
« Reply #59 on: August 14, 2005, 02:06:17 PM »

So you can "limit" "government"? The burden of proof is on you.
Wrong.  The burden of proof is in the constitution.  You know?  That document that nobody takes the time to learn anymore...

Besides enshrining our most basic rights, not granting them, the constitution serves as the primary obstacle for government.  You say that "I" need to somehow magically prove to you how government could be limited, and all I have to do is point to the constitution.  It is up to the people, however, to keep vigilant and to hold their government accountable.
Pages: 1 2 3 [4] 5 6 ... 210   Go Up
+  The Free Talk Live BBS
|-+  Free Talk Live
| |-+  General
| | |-+  Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...

// ]]>

Page created in 0.022 seconds with 31 queries.