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Re: Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...
« Reply #45 on: August 12, 2005, 08:09:56 PM »

With all this talk of money, i was wondering one thing. Are liberty dollars taxable? Like if you buy a 20 dollar item with a liberty dollar, do you have to pay taxes too? I was thinking this, because since the liberty dollar isn't considered "money" by the government, it would be like bartering with someone, and no money would have changed hands.
The liberty dollars aren't being taxed, the merchandise you "buy" is.  So, therefore, you will have to pay whatever price the seller asks, unless you strike a deal with them.

Ok, but between individuals would it be legal to trade liberty dollars for another item without paying taxes?
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« Reply #46 on: August 13, 2005, 03:28:53 AM »

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul125.html

"Fiat dollars allow us to live beyond our means, but only for so long. History shows that when the destruction of monetary value becomes rampant, nearly everyone suffers and the economic and political structure becomes unstable. Spendthrift politicians may love a system that generates more and more money for their special interest projects, but the rest of us have good reason to be concerned about our monetary system and the future value of our dollars." - Dr. Ron Paul

Exactly, and that is why we need to compliment the FIAT currency with smaller government that is only limited by the constitution.

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« Reply #47 on: August 13, 2005, 03:30:36 AM »

With all this talk of money, i was wondering one thing. Are liberty dollars taxable? Like if you buy a 20 dollar item with a liberty dollar, do you have to pay taxes too? I was thinking this, because since the liberty dollar isn't considered "money" by the government, it would be like bartering with someone, and no money would have changed hands.
The liberty dollars aren't being taxed, the merchandise you "buy" is. So, therefore, you will have to pay whatever price the seller asks, unless you strike a deal with them.

Ok, but between individuals would it be legal to trade liberty dollars for another item without paying taxes?
It is already legal to do that, even with the Federal Reserve Notes.  Only Congress may levy a tax upon you, and as far as I know, the only ones who are being taxed by Congress at this moment constitutionally, are illegal aliens and corporations.

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« Reply #48 on: August 13, 2005, 06:46:59 PM »

Exactly, and that is why we need to compliment the FIAT currency with smaller government that is only limited by the constitution.

Brokor, to think that you can "limit" "government"(a company that uses mass extortion to provide a "service") is delusional. Why do you believe such things? Are you really farther gone than Islamist radicals?
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« Reply #49 on: August 13, 2005, 08:47:34 PM »

Christianity has a lot of potential good, but there's just one slight problem....


Jesus didn't fulfill a single Messianic prophecy.
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« Reply #50 on: August 14, 2005, 12:01:59 AM »

I can be open to the possibility of Jesus as a historical figure, but not as divine.  That's where it gets just plain ridiculous.
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« Reply #51 on: August 14, 2005, 12:12:46 AM »

I can be open to the possibility of Jesus as a historical figure, but not as divine.  That's where it gets just plain ridiculous.

Word.
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« Reply #52 on: August 14, 2005, 12:16:55 AM »

Rock on.
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« Reply #53 on: August 14, 2005, 03:43:11 AM »

Exactly, and that is why we need to compliment the FIAT currency with smaller government that is only limited by the constitution.

Brokor, to think that you can "limit" "government"(a company that uses mass extortion to provide a "service") is delusional. Why do you believe such things? Are you really farther gone than Islamist radicals?
I probably am just a ranting lunatic.

But I'm not wrong ;)

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« Reply #54 on: August 14, 2005, 03:51:13 AM »

So you can "limit" "government"? The burden of proof is on you.
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« Reply #55 on: August 14, 2005, 08:56:13 AM »

Christian Anarchy?
Fuck that, the christians are the reason for this fucked country being so fucked up.
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« Reply #56 on: August 14, 2005, 09:41:38 AM »

I agree with Puke. :P
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« Reply #57 on: August 14, 2005, 09:59:02 AM »

Christian Anarchy?
Fuck that, the christians are the reason for this fucked country being so fucked up.

This is quite incorrect.

Christians, along with Muslims, Hindus, and Jews, are responsible for the world being so fucked up.
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« Reply #58 on: August 14, 2005, 12:06:11 PM »

Christian Anarchy?
Fuck that, the christians are the reason for this fucked country being so fucked up.

I must have missed something here...

So who's stripping away more and more of our freedoms? Running up a horrendously-high back breakin debt? Invading other countries illegally, killing thousands of innocents while creating more enemies in the meantime? using a inflationatory Fiat money system? and treating us more like slaves everyday than ever before? oh right.... the government:P
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« Reply #59 on: August 14, 2005, 02:06:17 PM »

So you can "limit" "government"? The burden of proof is on you.
Wrong.  The burden of proof is in the constitution.  You know?  That document that nobody takes the time to learn anymore...

Besides enshrining our most basic rights, not granting them, the constitution serves as the primary obstacle for government.  You say that "I" need to somehow magically prove to you how government could be limited, and all I have to do is point to the constitution.  It is up to the people, however, to keep vigilant and to hold their government accountable.
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