DetroitNo thanks, but there is some stuff in MI, and it is a no notice homeschool state.
Why does it have to be a house?I don't want to live in a tent.
Where is a good place to find a cheap house(3+ bedrooms) with some land for less than $100k?
It doesn't need to be in the USA.
Private well and septic system is preferred.
$100k isn't a lot, but I don't want a mortgage.
Where is a good place to find a cheap house(3+ bedrooms) with some land for less than $100k?
It doesn't need to be in the USA.
Private well and septic system is preferred.
$100k isn't a lot, but I don't want a mortgage.
Oklahoma City and surrounding area, one of the least hit economies. For 100K you can not only find something that meets your minimum requirement, you'll have plenty of options.
Where is a good place to find a cheap house(3+ bedrooms) with some land for less than $100k?
It doesn't need to be in the USA.
Private well and septic system is preferred.
$100k isn't a lot, but I don't want a mortgage.
Oklahoma City and surrounding area, one of the least hit economies. For 100K you can not only find something that meets your minimum requirement, you'll have plenty of options.
Only a matter of time before the masses are unable to afford beef. Restuarants, that are off the strip of course, in Vegas are near emtpy. Soon it will be shoe leather soup for dinner.
Oklahoma City and surrounding area, one of the least hit economies. For 100K you can not only find something that meets your minimum requirement, you'll have plenty of options.
Only a matter of time before the masses are unable to afford beef. Restuarants, that are off the strip of course, in Vegas are near emtpy. Soon it will be shoe leather soup for dinner.
This is about OKCs economy? cuz while we do have stockyards and fresh steaks it's Oil and Energy now.
Why does it have to be a house?I don't want to live in a tent.
Where is a good place to find a cheap house(3+ bedrooms) with some land for less than $100k?
It doesn't need to be in the USA.
Private well and septic system is preferred.
$100k isn't a lot, but I don't want a mortgage.
DetroitNo thanks, but there is some stuff in MI, and it is a no notice homeschool state.
Oh yeah, I forgot about the oil. Won't matter cuze the country is going green.
What about other options besides a tent?Like what?
What do you plan to do for a living?Robbing banks.
What about other options besides a tent?Like what?
If there is enough room I would consider it. But I don't want to be in a trailer park.
Oklahoma City and surrounding area, one of the least hit economies. For 100K you can not only find something that meets your minimum requirement, you'll have plenty of options.I've looked around there a little bit. OK is a no notice homeschool state.
I don't like neighbors.What about other options besides a tent?Like what?
If there is enough room I would consider it. But I don't want to be in a trailer park.
Why don't you want to live in a trailer park?
What about just a trailer, but not in a park?That isn't off the table.
What about just a trailer, but not in a park?That isn't off the table.
Small towns in Florida. Where I used to live this was possible. I don't know how much land you are after though.
Also maybe Idaho/Oklahoma/Nebraska, etc.
Thats true about the forclosures, but the problem is the banks arent dropping the prices and putting them on the market like they should. Instead, they are hanging on to them to prop the prices up. Wont work anyway, but the banks are too short sighted to see its not gonna help.Where is a good place to find a cheap house(3+ bedrooms) with some land for less than $100k?
It doesn't need to be in the USA.
Private well and septic system is preferred.
$100k isn't a lot, but I don't want a mortgage.
fla. or nevada
foreclosures up the ass
worst in the country
CPS doesn't like that.
Or, you can just live in your car.
Also what are prices like up in Coos county?There are a few places in my price range. But it looks like most of them need some work.
Much of the cheapest low crime housing in the country tends to be in the farm areas of ND, SD, MT, KS and NE.Fuck that.
CPS doesn't like that.
Or, you can just live in your car.
I wonder if it's feasable to turn a semi-trailer into housing. There would be more room than a traditional RV, it would be much sturdier too. You can probably get a used, working tractor and trailer for around $15k. Don't like the scenery...move.It is.
(http://www.zigloo.ca/modules/imageGallery/galleries/43/img_216_full%20horz.jpg)
http://www.zigloo.ca/index/projects/Zigloo_Domestique_Completed_Exterior (http://www.zigloo.ca/index/projects/Zigloo_Domestique_Completed_Exterior)
I admit to being rather fond of browsing through the layouts & photos various sorts of container homes built.
Also spend time every once in a while looking at the sustainable and manufactured designs at Dwell.
You can build a pretty decent little cabin for 15k.I assume that doesn't include a drilled well or septic system, and is off grid.
(http://www.zigloo.ca/modules/imageGallery/galleries/43/img_216_full%20horz.jpg)
http://www.zigloo.ca/index/projects/Zigloo_Domestique_Completed_Exterior (http://www.zigloo.ca/index/projects/Zigloo_Domestique_Completed_Exterior)
I admit to being rather fond of browsing through the layouts & photos various sorts of container homes built.
Also spend time every once in a while looking at the sustainable and manufactured designs at Dwell.
(http://www.zigloo.ca/modules/imageGallery/galleries/43/img_216_full%20horz.jpg)
http://www.zigloo.ca/index/projects/Zigloo_Domestique_Completed_Exterior (http://www.zigloo.ca/index/projects/Zigloo_Domestique_Completed_Exterior)
I admit to being rather fond of browsing through the layouts & photos various sorts of container homes built.
Also spend time every once in a while looking at the sustainable and manufactured designs at Dwell.
If people in NH were having major panic attacks about a Mexican restaurant painting part of their building Orange. I expect them to shit bricks before they would allow someone put shipping containers together to build a home. NH has some very restrictive zoning laws and lots of dead land so buyer beware. By dead land I mean land that is restricted from development or won't get building approval because it isn't able to handle a standard septic. Never mind that there are new water treatment technologies which don't depend on pert-able land and you might plan to use that technology. There won't be a building permit.
I have heard that the area around Houston, TX is fairly cheap. My brother moved there a few years ago. After seeing how much property and big house you can get for the money my parents and my sister and her family moved there too. I have never been there but they tell me it's nice.I thought about buying something there about 1.5 years ago, even got approved for a mortgage, but decided against it. Now I am ready to leave.
I need a list of towns that don't have zoning.
I need a list of towns that don't have zoning.
http://www.nh.gov/oep/resourcelibrary/referencelibrary/m/mlurdatabasereports/townswithoutzoning.htm
You can build a pretty decent little cabin for 15k.I assume that doesn't include a drilled well or septic system, and is off grid.
I'd like to stay under 75k for land/house/well/septic system. I would be OK with having something built, but I want to move within 6 months.
I bet nobody asked Dan on this forum. He used to live in a cool place
Google maps has a really cool feature newly added, wiki can be overlayed on the maps and you can just hover over the icon and it'll give you a little overview of the article about the town.The other cool new Google maps feature is real estate for sale overlay.
So for you, maybe an inhabitable 'handymans special' would be more appropriate, or start looking into foreclosures.That seems to be mostly what I am looking at.
Well, yeah - I know who you're talking about. I just don't know who he is IRL in any way.Well, he was at my house drinking Jack Daniel's last weekend
Well, yeah - I know who you're talking about. I just don't know who he is IRL in any way.Well, he was at my house drinking Jack Daniel's last weekend
If you have some land you can get greywater systems and worm composting toilets that alleviate the need for a septic system. 8)
You can get a boat for 50 grand that has everything you need or convert a bus into a tiny house...
http://www.designboom.com/contemporary/tiny_houses2.html (http://www.designboom.com/contemporary/tiny_houses2.html)
If you can wait 2-3 years foreclosures are gonna be a LOT more plentiful, and a LOT cheaperI don't think I can wait.
That's fair. I didn't wait to buy my place. There's a point where you want to live in your ownIf you can wait 2-3 years foreclosures are gonna be a LOT more plentiful, and a LOT cheaperI don't think I can wait.
There's a point where you want to live in your ownWith property taxes, you are still a lot like a renter.well-fortified compoundhome, and stop being a renter.
There's a point where you want to live in your ownWith property taxes, you are still a lot like a renter.well-fortified compoundhome, and stop being a renter.
I was looking at a 100k house in TX today, and the taxes on it were $5500 last year. WTF?
Taxes last year were around $3700Was the land in Current Use?
I don't think so, it's a farm, and most of the 30 acres are fields.Taxes last year were around $3700Was the land in Current Use?
Worth it for the tax break if you're way up in buttfuck nowhere.
In other news, land is too expensive to buy in New England.Dude just come west of the Mississippi.
NH and ME are where I am mostly looking now.
I really want to be in a town that has no zoning, and no building permits/inspections.
Can a person get a re-evaluation of the property to bring it more in line with it's real value?You can try.
Another thing I have noticed is cottage camps and seasonal property. Is that a restriction on the property or can the housing be insulated heated and qualify as year round residence?Sometimes there is zoning that only allows the seasonal stuff, sometimes people just build it like that.
Can a person get a re-evaluation of the property to bring it more in line with it's real value?You can try.
I wonder if any in NH know the answer to these questions. The property taxes are crazy. I saw one property for $120k the tax value was like $300K and the taxes were like 5500 per year. No wonder no one wants the property the taxes would be higher than the monthly mortgage payment. Can a person get a re-evaluation of the property to bring it more in line with it's real value?
Another thing I have noticed is cottage camps and seasonal property. Is that a restriction on the property or can the housing be insulated heated and qualify as year round residence?
Oklahoma City and surrounding areaHow is the weather in OK?
If I were able to move I think I would be more tempted to move to VT. They seem to have several better laws and a much more tolerant population.I like their CCW laws (no permit required). I heard they have high taxes though, but I don't really know.
If I were able to move I think I would be more tempted to move to VT. They seem to have several better laws and a much more tolerant population.Cold and bad home school laws. I'd take NH or ME over VT. But I would go to VT if I could find a good property, because I like New England.
Possession of less than 2.5 ounces is a civil violation, punishable by a fine of $200 - $400. Possession of 2.5 ounces or more is considered evidence of intent to distribute and is punished as such (see below).
Possession of a usable amount of marijuana is lawful if at the time of the possession the person has an authenticated copy of a medical record demonstrating that the person has a physician's recommendation.
Cultivation of five plants or less of marijuana is punishable by up to six months in jail and a fine of up to $1,000. For greater than five plants, the penalties increase to up to one year in jail and a fine of up to $2,000. For greater than 100 plants the possible punishment is up to five years in prison and a fine of up to $5,000. For any amount of plants greater than 500, the penalties increase to up to ten years in prison and a fine of up to $20,000.
The penalty for sale of marijuana is up to one year in jail and a fine up to $2,000. The penalties increase to up to five years in prison and a fine of up to $5,000 if the sale was made to a minor or if it occurred within 1,000 feet of a school or on a school bus.
Possession of greater than one pound of marijuana is considered trafficking and is punishable by up to one year in jail and a fine of up to $2,000.
Possession and personal use of paraphernalia is a civil violation punishable by a fine of $200. The sale of paraphernalia is punishable by up to six months in prison and a fine of up to $1,000, unless the sale was to a minor, in which case the penalty increases to up to one year in jail and a fine of up to $2,000.
Upon conviction, the court may suspend or revoke the professional license of the offender.
I've lived a little bit of everywhere and apart from minor details they're all the same.
I've lived a little bit of everywhere and apart from minor details they're all the same.
Except in NH where adults don't have to legally wear seat belts.
Oklahoma County Jail is said to be one of the worst County Jails in the country.
ME has pretty good weed laws.
http://norml.org/index.cfm?wtm_view=&Group_ID=4541
ME has pretty good weed laws.
http://norml.org/index.cfm?wtm_view=&Group_ID=4541
If I factor in cannabis laws, Maine comes up on top.
But it's pretty fucking cold in the winter.
Oklahoma County Jail is said to be one of the worst County Jails in the country.
My younger brother, who used to be a professional criminal, spent time there. "Mike, I done time in a lot of jails. But, I ain't never doin' no crime in that place!"
He did not much care for the place, and has no desire to visit again.Oklahoma County Jail is said to be one of the worst County Jails in the country.
My younger brother, who used to be a professional criminal, spent time there. "Mike, I done time in a lot of jails. But, I ain't never doin' no crime in that place!"
Your brother thinks the OK County jail is the middle of a Category 5 shit tornado, then?
OK is off my list.He did not much care for the place, and has no desire to visit again.Oklahoma County Jail is said to be one of the worst County Jails in the country.
My younger brother, who used to be a professional criminal, spent time there. "Mike, I done time in a lot of jails. But, I ain't never doin' no crime in that place!"
Your brother thinks the OK County jail is the middle of a Category 5 shit tornado, then?
blackie should move to indiana
blackie should move to indiana
Suicide rate in Indiana is 65%
blackie should move to indiana
Suicide rate in Indiana is 65%
blackie should move to indianaSouth-central "Kentuckyana" is not a bad option.
I'd take you with me.
dig you upI plan on being cremated.
Looking at houses in TX makes me want to kill myself. For real.
Only because I have a "good" job in TX, and TX has good home school laws. If I got laid off tomorrow, I'd start making plans to leave TX ASAP.Looking at houses in TX makes me want to kill myself. For real.
If the relatively lax view on personal behaviors in Maine is attractive, why would you consider buying anything in Texas?
End up in the clinker, you'll be royally fucked in TX.
Only because I have a "good" job in TX, and TX has good home school laws. If I got laid off tomorrow, I'd start making plans to leave TX ASAP.Looking at houses in TX makes me want to kill myself. For real.
If the relatively lax view on personal behaviors in Maine is attractive, why would you consider buying anything in Texas?
End up in the clinker, you'll be royally fucked in TX.
I look at TX as a temporary thing, but I fear getting stuck here. I would get a house that needs some work and hopefully be able to sell the house in a few years after I fix it up.
I have family in Houlton. It's very, uh, boring.
Maine is still on the top of my list. My sister is trying to talk me into northern Maine, near Caribou.
I think I would want to be as far south as I could afford, probably about 20 miles or so from Bangor. There is an airport in Bangor if I need to travel for work.
You know, at this stage of my life, moving to New Hampshire would be doable were it nor for the lack of Jewish communities there.
You know, at this stage of my life, moving to New Hampshire would be doable were it nor for the lack of Jewish communities there.2008 Legislator of the Year was a Jewish fellow. (ed - maybe it was 2007. whatever)
You know, at this stage of my life, moving to New Hampshire would be doable were it nor for the lack of Jewish communities there.
Seth Cohn is ruining it for the Jews.You know, at this stage of my life, moving to New Hampshire would be doable were it nor for the lack of Jewish communities there.
Hang out with Seth Cohn.
It doesn't always make sense trying to legitimize where you put yourself during your mortal existence. But I guess its better than being oblivious of these considerations. Right?
Yeah, that's the problem.It doesn't always make sense trying to legitimize where you put yourself during your mortal existence. But I guess its better than being oblivious of these considerations. Right?
I'm just saying you're most likely gonna have to find a way to be self-employed if you move to somewhere like that.
Yeah, that's the problem.It doesn't always make sense trying to legitimize where you put yourself during your mortal existence. But I guess its better than being oblivious of these considerations. Right?
I'm just saying you're most likely gonna have to find a way to be self-employed if you move to somewhere like that.
Also, no good internet access in the remote parts. You can go satellite, but that is expensive and sucks. Teleworker stuff is kinda hard to do.
I was about to do something similar when I was living in Grafton. Dial up is painful.Yeah, that's the problem.It doesn't always make sense trying to legitimize where you put yourself during your mortal existence. But I guess its better than being oblivious of these considerations. Right?
I'm just saying you're most likely gonna have to find a way to be self-employed if you move to somewhere like that.
Also, no good internet access in the remote parts. You can go satellite, but that is expensive and sucks. Teleworker stuff is kinda hard to do.
I know they either have cable or DSL internet in Houlton. Rent out a space in town for like $300 a month and work from there, eh.
It doesn't always make sense trying to legitimize where you put yourself during your mortal existence. But I guess its better than being oblivious of these considerations. Right?
I'm just saying you're most likely gonna have to find a way to be self-employed if you move to somewhere like that.
Don't move to Hopkinton.
From what I can tell I am the only person in town who seriously uses comcast during the day. Fucking blazing-fast. Faster than when I lived in Concord. Faster than when I lived in the Bay Area.
Fast.
Don't move to Hopkinton.
From what I can tell I am the only person in town who seriously uses comcast during the day. Fucking blazing-fast. Faster than when I lived in Concord. Faster than when I lived in the Bay Area.
Fast.
We could get fucked up all day and throw beercans all over the lawn, have the wife bring us sammiches. Wheel that bigscreen out on the porch, Clark.
And Hopkinton is only an hour from Keene, making it close enough to enable participation in the activities there? Cool.never driven it; don't know
What about just a trailer, but not in a park?I looked at a couple "mobile homes" a few weeks ago. They seemed pretty cheaply built. I am pretty sure that is the first time I have been in one.
They ARE cheaply made.
Hey Blackie.
http://www.landwatch.com/Wayne-County-Pennsylvania-House-for-sale/pid/116436024
even a semi-freedom person like blackie.
Fucking morons like him is why I quit.
Fucking morons like him is why I quit.
I suspect that he will convince THOUSANDS of people to join the FSP that way. Are you kidding me?
Fucking morons like him is why I quit.
Fucking morons like him is why I quit.
The trigger has been pulled.
An offer has been made on a property in Maine.The trigger has been pulled.
Details?
An offer has been made on a property in Maine.The trigger has been pulled.
Details?
There is a crapper in the basement.
(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/908/44041024.jpg)
An offer has been made on a property in Maine.The trigger has been pulled.
Details?
There is a crapper in the basement.
(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/908/44041024.jpg)
Sooo... all the shitting is done in the basement?
Sooo... all the shitting is done in the basement?There are like 8 toilets in the place. One bathroom has two toilets in it.
How much land? Do you have a good line of sight up the driveway?none(.3 acres)
There are like 8 toilets in the place. One bathroom has two toilets in it.Shit... any room you can't shit in?
Ouch.How much land? Do you have a good line of sight up the driveway?none(.3 acres)
Not really a driveway as much as a parking lot.
Only use I can think of for two toilets in one bathroom is hosting a shitting competitionSooo... all the shitting is done in the basement?There are like 8 toilets in the place. One bathroom has two toilets in it.
Only use I can think of for two toilets in one bathroom is hosting a shitting competitionSooo... all the shitting is done in the basement?There are like 8 toilets in the place. One bathroom has two toilets in it.
Only use I can think of for two toilets in one bathroom is hosting a shitting competitionSooo... all the shitting is done in the basement?There are like 8 toilets in the place. One bathroom has two toilets in it.
Or if you're into scat.
On one of the British documentary shows which featured people who hoard as a living, there was this one guy who would collect all of his #1 and #2 and store it in bottles and buckets out in the open.(http://www.craphound.com/images/trucker_urine_jug_poster.jpg)
The smell. The smell...
Only use I can think of for two toilets in one bathroom is hosting a shitting competition
There are like 8 toilets in the place. One bathroom has two toilets in it.
Yeah.Ouch.How much land? Do you have a good line of sight up the driveway?none(.3 acres)
Not really a driveway as much as a parking lot.
That's a big drawback.
Neighbors are... bleah.
It's got stalls for shitting competitions.
(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/2835/stall.jpg)
Weather's nice... you ever make it down to Nashua, gimme a holler.
I haven't grown anything in a few years, and don't plan on it unless it's legit.
But this place has more bedrooms than toilets, and each bedroom has aurinalsink in it.
(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/9703/95544369.jpg)
For a big grow op, the basement would probably work. It something like 60' x 35'.
(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1821/16615228.jpg)
Did it used to be a boarding house/bedsit/B&B?Yes.
FINALLY this all makes sense.Did it used to be a boarding house/bedsit/B&B?Yes.
How bad is lead paint?Lead paint is awesome!!!
Chipping paint isn't good for kids anyway, no matter if it has lead in it or not. Things end up in mouths...
badmainecontractor.comI think I am going to have to do that.
Yeah, and he gave me the receipts for the hardware.
Take it to Judge Judy.
Yeah, and he gave me the receipts for the hardware.
The closest sink I have found so far is going for $425.
I am going to ask the dude if he want to do private arbitration or mediation. That's why I haven't "gone public" yet.
I am assuming you got referrals for the contractor prior to his hiring. If not mistake number one.
Why were you not on location while he was doing all this work? Or at least had a trusted friend making sure these guys did not take off with your stuff?
right now I'm thinking you got what you deservedFuck you.
So why are you bothering us with it now that it's too late?Too late for what?
I didn't know you had enough work to justify a GC. You never mentioned it.I think I mentioned $15k. I thought I needed someone to oversee everything since I wasn't there, and the place hadn't been occupied for about three years. And it's a big place. Over 4000sf. And it's 85 years old. And it was cheap...55k. So yeah, it needs work.
For future reference... I'm a remodeling contractor, I'm interested in working. I would rearrange my life for reliable under the table money in the area to start building up a client base there or just for a couple of tapwork tuesdays. I've been saying it for years. No one has ever even asked for pictures.Well, this place needs a lot of work. Too bad I'm pretty much out of money. Fuck. There is a shit load of painting that needs to be done, that was supposed to be done before I moved my family into the place. I don't think you would want to be in this area. It's a small town with a lot of unemployment.
I don't think I will get any restitution.
I hope you get some restitution. I just think it is going to be more hassle.
I have been looking at MN myself. More for the medical marijuana aspect. And if home prices are better that is a winning situation as well. I do think you did some great research on that end of things. Were the property taxes being lower another reason for selecting MN over NH?MM is a plus, but the dispensary laws are still a little wacky. The town I'm in doesn't have zoning, so that is a good thing. But there are no jobs. I'm trying to set up my current job so I can work remotely, and my manager is OK with that, but it's gunna take me a little while to iron things out.
I have been looking at MN myself. More for the medical marijuana aspect.MMJ was ridiculously close in NH last time. Even with an (R) takeover, even with an anti-MMJ Governor, I expect it will either be ridiculously close again, or will pass this time. This is a case of momentum where it's gonna happen, just a matter of next year or in 3 years.
Check out the front door, it has aSweet.mail slotgun port.
We joke around that if the place burns down we can move to NH.Got it. Nudge, nudge. Wink, wink. Shall we send one of the Keeniacs around? Tell 'em some goobermint peeps live in the house and it'd be an act of CD to raze it.
Shall we send one of the Keeniacs around? Tell 'em some goobermint peeps live in the house and it'd be an act of CD to raze it.
I bet blackie could do way, way better.Shall we send one of the Keeniacs around? Tell 'em some goobermint peeps live in the house and it'd be an act of CD to raze it.
You are fucking sick in the head.