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Free Talk Live => General => Topic started by: ForumTroll on May 02, 2010, 09:22:47 AM
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http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100501/D9FDNILO0.html
So they blow $700 million on a system that they can't use, and how much more on some other buggy shit?
The US could have probably subcontracted one of the polling firms for less money than they wasted on the handheld system to get the whole fucking census.
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we didn't send ours in......
now i read in the paper they're sendin' pests around door-to-fuckin-door.
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Seen in today's The Libertarian Enterprise:
http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2010/tle568-20100502-01.html (http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2010/tle568-20100502-01.html)
Two little old lady census takers just knocked on the door.
They were polite, I was polite, everyone was nice about it.
I said, "I have the right to remain silent. Have a good day" and closed the door.
Let's see what happens.
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I've "misplaced" mine.
If and when they show up the first time, the answer will be "two -- please leave" (I figure this gives them the greatest compromise they'll get, which is the information they have a constitutional "power" to collect.) If they don't leave promptly, I'll start asking them personal questions and eventually, it will be "you're committing criminal trespassing on private property -- leave now" and the door will be slammed in their faces.
From then on, I'll be far more rude. I'm thinking perhaps of spraying them with water if they fail to leave...
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I've "misplaced" mine.
If and when they show up the first time, the answer will be "two -- please leave" (I figure this gives them the greatest compromise they'll get, which is the information they have a constitutional "power" to collect.) If they don't leave promptly, I'll start asking them personal questions and eventually, it will be "you're committing criminal trespassing on private property -- leave now" and the door will be slammed in their faces.
From then on, I'll be far more rude. I'm thinking perhaps of spraying them with water if they fail to leave...
They'll leave after you say "two". I had one visit me, full story in another thread. I suggest instead of spraying them with water, tell them to BS whatever they want on the page, to have some fun, and then go take a break down at the nearby bar.
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I put the first one into the shredder.
I put the second one (They sent a second one.) into the shredder.
The form, not census people. They haven't shown up yet. I assume that people around here, with the population density so low, won't be sending anyone. No sidewalks, so they'd have to drive door to door, and the lots are pretty huge, One acre being the smallest.
If they show, I won't answer the door. The only people I answer the door to are friends, people in UPS/FEDEX outfits, and neighbors.
F them in the A.
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They showed up at the Kanning residence in Grafton. About 4x more bumfuck Egypt than you.
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They showed up at the Kanning residence in Grafton. About 4x more bumfuck Egypt than you.
Yeah, but this is Southeast Michigan. Fuckers can get shot up in this shit. I'll make a gentleman's honor bet that we won't have a visitor. You going to Porcfest? I'm probably gonna be there. If they come around before then, I'll bring you a bottle of your favorite whatever. How's that? You name, it, just don't kill me with some $50+ crap. Let's say $30 tops.
If they don't, I get to give you a fairly gentle noogie in front of a large group of people. And you get a stank bottle of Manischewitz or Boone's Farm or some shit.
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Damn, you're confident. OK, I'll take the wager. LOL.
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Damn, you're confident. OK, I'll take the wager. LOL.
manechewitz at the least.
either way , a ''win'' 4 you.
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They showed up at the Kanning residence in Grafton. About 4x more bumfuck Egypt than you.
Yeah, but this is Southeast Michigan. Fuckers can get shot up in this shit. I'll make a gentleman's honor bet that we won't have a visitor. You going to Porcfest? I'm probably gonna be there. If they come around before then, I'll bring you a bottle of your favorite whatever. How's that? You name, it, just don't kill me with some $50+ crap. Let's say $30 tops.
If they don't, I get to give you a fairly gentle noogie in front of a large group of people. And you get a stank bottle of Manischewitz or Boone's Farm or some shit.
If you dont answer the door the first time (I didnt even hear them knock) they'll leave a note saying they were there, list the persons number etc. Then they come back again later, at least once.
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I didn't fill out a census. I haven't seen anyone show up at the door yet or leave a note. I live in Orange County, CA, near a large government facility and surrounded by conserviclones. I'm hoping to just keep missing them because I am almost never home - seeing as we have to work lots of hours to survive our taxes and earn food money.
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I may have been a special case since I live so close to a college campus.
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I never got one.
I don't think they're doing a very good job.
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I got two, one at each address. I threw them both in the garbage without opening them. Hope my roommates don't mind...
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My neighbor left his/hers downstairs in a big pile of junk mail. Unopened. I think its less "protesting" and more "dontgiveashit".
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"dontgiveashit".
That's cool, though. If more people just didn't give a shit about government, it would cease to exist.
I mean, you know, it's just an idea in people's heads and so on.
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If we don't know how big our COMMUNITY is how will know how big the CAMPS need to be?
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If we don't know how big our COMMUNITY is how will know how big the CAMPS need to be?
Human bodies stack fairly densely; I'm guessing it isn't much of a concern.
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I haven't got any forms yet, I live in Canada. I've never filled out a census, ever, I just don't give a fuck.
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So the census dude came by a few minutes ago. He drove up to my curb in a van, knocked and on the door. I was surprised how easily it went (these guys must have a really fucked up job because apparently they're spineless statists.)
It went like this:
Bureaucrat: "I'm Jay, and..."
Me: [smiles] "Hi Jay!" [through a closed storm door]
Bureaucrat: "...and I'm here to follow up on the census..."
Me: [cheerfully] "I'm not interested in doing that."
Bureaucrat: "It means a lot to Jefferson County..."
Me: [matter-of-factly] "I'm an anarchist." [began closing the door]
Bureaucrat: "Okay..." [turned around and walked to his van]
I thought about telling him "two," but he made it so easy to give him nothing....
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When you don't answer the questions, the census taker justs walks over to your neighbors' doors and asks them how many people lived at your address as of April 1st. The census guy I talked to said it was called a "proxy" census report and was enough.
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I'm in what used to be Tom Tancredo's district (LOLz at the irony--btw, he's an MMJ advocate, and happened to have helped my wife get her green card after too much BS from the INS--needless to say, we disagree on the "fine points" of his politics!), but even here, that probably wouldn't go over too well.
Besides, those who haven't abandoned their homes are never around during the day (I think they're trying to keep their jobs so they don't have to abandon their homes.) My neighbor immediately to the east just plain left town, and the one two doors down is probably leaving soon, from the looks of it. On the other side, I suspect they're pot growers, and to the other side of them, they rent because those owners had to move across town to keep their jobs. These people aren't going to be nice to census types.
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Today I noticed a lady with a sturdy bag labeled "United States Census Bureau" and a stack of papers talking to my landlord in her office. 0_O
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When you don't answer the questions, the census taker justs walks over to your neighbors' doors and asks them how many people lived at your address as of April 1st. The census guy I talked to said it was called a "proxy" census report and was enough.
Good. Hopefully the census guy won't knock on my door any more.
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When you don't answer the questions, the census taker justs walks over to your neighbors' doors and asks them how many people lived at your address as of April 1st. The census guy I talked to said it was called a "proxy" census report and was enough.
They are supposed to try to get all of the info from a proxy, not just how many people lived at the address on April 1st.
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Today I noticed a lady with a sturdy bag labeled "United States Census Bureau" and a stack of papers talking to my landlord in her office. 0_O
Funny. The guy who came to my door turned and pointed to his bag as he introduced himself, as though it meant something.
When you don't answer the questions, the census taker justs walks over to your neighbors' doors and asks them how many people lived at your address as of April 1st. The census guy I talked to said it was called a "proxy" census report and was enough.
They are supposed to try to get all of the info from a proxy, not just how many people lived at the address on April 1st.
Are you Keith, the bureaucrat we've heard about?
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Are you Keith, the bureaucrat we've heard about?
Yes, Keith is a fucking hypocrite government stooge closet statist.
Probably.
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As of today, May 12, 2010
Bonerjoe, I owe you one bottle of booze that is (In total) valued at $30 USD or less. I shall make good on this at Porcfest.
Conversation:
KNOCK KNOCK RING RING KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK RING RING FOR FIVE FUCKING MINUTES FOLLOWED BY ANOTHER COUPLE OF MINUTES OF HER SITTING IN HER CAR.
*Door Opens, A Wild John Appears in underpants and a dirty shirt. I made sure to make the armpits and nipple areas, along with my face, wet.*
John: Hi. Two.
Rhonda The Census Mama Jama: I'm sorry?
John: Didn't want to leave you hanging. You've been here for a while, and parked in my driveway now for almost five minutes. Two.
Rhonda The Census Mama Jama: Okay, so I'd like to ask you a few questions...
John: Two. Nothing personal but I'm not gonna tell you anything else. I hope you understand.
Rhonda The Census Mama Jama: Naw naw, that aight. I'm just getting paid you know.
John: Do you get paid when I say "Two"?
Rhonda The Census Mama Jama: Um, yeah.
John: Great. Two.
Rhonda The Census Mama Jama: Well, did you live in this house on April 1st?
John: Maybe.
*Rhonda The Census Mama Jama is starting to look pissed. Rhonda The Census Mama Jama then gets a smug ass look on her face*
Rhonda The Census Mama Jama: Well, I'm going to check off that you're Caucasian and speak English, if you don't mind, har har.
John: ...
Rhonda The Census Mama Jama: Can we agree that you are Caucasian?
John: Uh... I guess. Sorta.
Rhonda The Census Mama Jama: Look YOU A WHITE BOY OR NOT? You're not Hispanic, are you?
John: ...
Rhonda The Census Mama Jama: I'm putting Caucasian. And you speak English so I'm putting that you speak English.
John: Ciņ che era quella, cagna? (Basically "I don't understand, bitch?" or "What did you say, bitch?", in Italian)
Rhonda The Census Mama Jama: Cute. I'm puttin' English.
John: Due persone che vivono qui, figa. (A recap and an insult)
Rhonda The Census Mama Jama: Thanks, you have a good day. I'm just trying to get paid, baby.
*Rhonda The Census Mama Jama stalks off*
John: Morire in un incendio puttana! (Waves and smiles)
I know just enough Italian to get myself into trouble with Italian speaking people.
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should have told her you were african-american....then get all indignant......''what, you got a problem with me being too light skinned??!!',
betchew wouldna said that to lena horne!!!"
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should have told her you were african-american....then get all indignant......''what, you got a problem with me being too light skinned??!!',
betchew wouldna said that to lena horne!!!"
I almost went for the offensive shit when she asked "You a white boy or not?"
But there was no need. I could tell she was having a bad day already, and her tone was more "YOU SO SILLY" than "I hate me some white man"
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I won't be distracted from my practice of NIN's Closer performed Sinatra-style, for when I audition for America's Got Talent.
Eventually they'll leave.
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I got the second letter over the weekend. My wife knows how i feel about it and is uncomfortable with the thought of me not complying. So I opened the letter and started reading the questions out loud. That's when she started saying "its none of their businesses" and "why do they need to know that"? It made me proud.
I can't remember what I did with the envelope.
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I threw mine away before the roommates ever saw it. My girlfriend did the same. She's been getting notices posted on her door now and not replying to them. I haven't been getting any notices.
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I haven't seen a questionnaire or have had a visit. This is proof Obamba hates white people.
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My parents filled the whole fucking sheet out while I was at LF.
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Yes, Keith is a fucking hypocrite government stooge closet statist.
Actually, we would be a lot more free if more pro-freedom people worked from within the system. Sadly, most freedom folks don't care about freedom enough to do that. Hopefully, we can get 1000s of people in NH to do that. I know quite a few people that are trying to get government jobs up here, including a couple in Keene. Julia tried hard to do it. Maybe one day she will.
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Yes, Keith is a fucking hypocrite government stooge closet statist.
Actually, we would be a lot more free if more pro-freedom people worked from within the system. Sadly, most freedom folks don't care about freedom enough to do that. Hopefully, we can get 1000s of people in NH to do that. I know quite a few people that are trying to get government jobs up here, including a couple in Keene. Julia tried hard to do it. Maybe one day she will.
"I love freedom too much not to be a statist."
Aight. Just, you know, expect people to treat you like one, then.
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John: Morire in un incendio puttana! (Waves and smiles)
I dont know a single word of Italian but even I can figure out that means "die in a fire bitch!"
And Keith, many of us consider it morally wrong. Thats like saying the best way to ensure that fewer innocents in Iraq and Afghanistan are injured, you should enlist in the military. Its just poor logic, and not morally sound for those who abide by the Non-Aggression Principal.
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I dont know a single word of Italian but even I can figure out that means "die in a fire bitch!"
Pretty much verbatim.
Of course, if you say it with a smile and a friendly tone, it can deceive.
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Also useful - My devil mother taught me this one:
Parli italiano? (Do you speak Italian?)
Wait a second, if they don't respond in something like Italian, say this:
Succhiare un peto dal mio buco del culo. (Suck a fart from my asshole)
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I heard a pretty funny census story the other day. I know someone who keeps their doors, and windows, open about 10 hours a day. This person is used to having friends, family, & associates, stop by without notice, and wander in. They're always welcome, and that's just how this household works. Everyone laughs when a stranger shows up when the door happens to be closed, because that is the very rare circumstance that you might hear the doorbell, and it's obvious that they must be a stranger. Anyway, about a week ago, a door to door census harasser showed up. She walked up to the door, which is completely open, flat against the exterior wall, and is just standing there when the resident notices her. She is greeted warmly, and when she explains who she is, is told that she is not welcome there. She was shocked, stood there briefly, and then left. She returned the next day, and was told again that she was not welcome. This time she stood around for about 2 minutes before leaving. She came back a third time. She was told she wasn't welcome. She mentioned that her supervisor told her that she had to come back. She stood around uncomfortably for about 10 minutes, and then left. On the 4th straight day, she showed up again. Again, the door is wide open, and she can see the only person there, who happens to be on the phone. She stands there in the doorway for a 30 minute phone call, and about another 20 minutes after that, before the one there acknowledges her for the first time saying, "Lady.. I don't mean to be rude, but you're nuts!".
I'm not sure how much longer she waited around before leaving after that, but she has not come back since. This may not be as funny to anyone else, but I know the person who lives there as an extremely polite, hospitable, & friendly, person, and it cracks me up to picture this.
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Aight. Just, you know, expect people to treat you like one, then.
Just treat me like the the super activist I am and all will be well. You cannot be top 100 in the country without hard work.
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Aight. Just, you know, expect people to treat you like one, then.
Just treat me like the the super activist I am and all will be well. You cannot be top 100 in the country without hard work.
*Retching Sounds*
There's no such thing as super activists.
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Yes, Keith is a fucking hypocrite government stooge closet statist.
Actually, we would be a lot more free if more pro-freedom people worked from within the system. Sadly, most freedom folks don't care about freedom enough to do that. Hopefully, we can get 1000s of people in NH to do that. I know quite a few people that are trying to get government jobs up here, including a couple in Keene. Julia tried hard to do it. Maybe one day she will.
"I love freedom too much not to be a statist."
I hadn't really prejudged, but that's exactly how I read it. :shock:
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Aight. Just, you know, expect people to treat you like one, then.
Just treat me like the the super activist I am and all will be well. You cannot be top 100 in the country without hard work.
hahahahahahahaha
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Yes, Keith is a fucking hypocrite government stooge closet statist.
Actually, we would be a lot more free if more pro-freedom people worked from within the system. Sadly, most freedom folks don't care about freedom enough to do that. Hopefully, we can get 1000s of people in NH to do that. I know quite a few people that are trying to get government jobs up here, including a couple in Keene. Julia tried hard to do it. Maybe one day she will.
"I love freedom too much not to be a statist."
That's exactly how I read it. :-(
Well you know I don't do the ancap/minarch battle, but after listening to all of the holier than thou bullshit that comes out of Keith, I'm pretty surprised that he's thugging for the pigs.
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Yes, Keith is a fucking hypocrite government stooge closet statist.
Actually, we would be a lot more free if more pro-freedom people worked from within the system. Sadly, most freedom folks don't care about freedom enough to do that. Hopefully, we can get 1000s of people in NH to do that. I know quite a few people that are trying to get government jobs up here, including a couple in Keene. Julia tried hard to do it. Maybe one day she will.
"I love freedom too much not to be a statist."
That's exactly how I read it. :-(
Well you know I don't do the ancap/minarch battle, but after listening to all of the holier than thou bullshit that comes out of Keith, I'm pretty surprised that he's thugging for the pigs.
Frankly, I'm not in a position to be judgmental about it, but I think the opportunities to do more good than harm from inside the system are limited (other than as a vandal, I think; for example, it occurred to me when I worked at Lockheed Martin that I could do a lot of data damage, but I'm not inclined to do that...seems too much like a real crime, especially as an employee.)
I'm better at wiring around the problem most of the time, and being a fly in the ointment the rest of the time...I think.
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I'm still waiting to hear out of Keith's mouth how exactly he is helping freedom by being a Census worker. I think that would involve telling the people he supervises only to ask how many people are in the household. I don't think he's doing that.
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I'm still waiting to hear out of Keith's mouth how exactly he is helping freedom by being a Census worker. I think that would involve telling the people he supervises only to ask how many people are in the household. I don't think he's doing that.
He could be filling blanks with lies, I guess. If you did a whole county and put one person at each address, I suppose it could look like fewer people live there.
Not that that would actually effect the distribution of money, because the whole thing is a load of shit anyhow.
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My parents filled the whole fucking sheet out while I was at LF.
you went to the ''Laugh Factory''?
how wuzzit?
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My parents filled the whole fucking sheet out while I was at LF.
you went to the ''Laugh Factory''?
how wuzzit?
:|
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shit.
this bitch has you all beat:
lady-lawyer shoots at census taker
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D9FLU8FG1.html
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Sounds like she has an anger problem.
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think?
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She missed, so at the least her aim sucks.
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She missed, so at the least her aim sucks.
she's a lawyer....
law-things probably popped up in her head as she raised the pistola....
''life imprisonment''
''disbarrment'' (safe to say that'll happen anyway)
although, she'd get plenty of biz from free-staters, militia-types & other anti-govt peeps.
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Might not be a bad idea to have a gun handy just in case.
http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-census-worker-rapist,0,655773.story
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http://widget.nbc.com/videos/nbcshort_at.swf?CXNID=1000004.10045NXC&widID=4727a250e66f9723&clipID=1226117&showID=61&siteurl=http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/census/1226117
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I was in the middle of moving out of my apartment when the Census workers showed up. We were obviously very busy, and not to mention the fact that I was MOVING OUT OF THE TOWN, she comes up to me and says "It looks like your busy, but I sure hope you have some time to answer the Census." and I looked at her and just said "I am not answering the Census."
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I would have been "What are you, fucking blind? I'm leaving! Your answer is zero!"
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I would have been "What are you, fucking blind? I'm leaving! Your answer is zero!"
Census day is April 1st. So it is about how many people lived there on April 1st, not today. It sounds like the answer was at least one, maybe 2 or more.
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A friend of mine, who has had the census harassers come by a few times, just had their door window broken. They told me that they've had census harassers knock on the door, hard, for several minutes, and then walk around the house, knocking on the other two doors. This person has chosen to just not respond in any way. This last time, they were knocking hard, over and over again, until they broke the door window. They then left a note on the door to call about scheduling time for an interview, and took off. The resident was in another room listening, and heard the window break. They told me they were shocked, and preparing themselves for the possibility that this idiot was entering their home.
It's hard for me to believe that these idiots haven't gotten themselves shot yet... or at least, I haven't heard about it if any have.
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I would have been "What are you, fucking blind? I'm leaving! Your answer is zero!"
Census day is April 1st. So it is about how many people lived there on April 1st, not today. It sounds like the answer was at least one, maybe 2 or more.
Statist.
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I would have been "What are you, fucking blind? I'm leaving! Your answer is zero!"
Census day is April 1st. So it is about how many people lived there on April 1st, not today. It sounds like the answer was at least one, maybe 2 or more.
Statist.
:?
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It's hard for me to believe that these idiots haven't gotten themselves shot yet... or at least, I haven't heard about it if any have.
1 so far mebbe.
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I would have been "What are you, fucking blind? I'm leaving! Your answer is zero!"
Census day is April 1st. So it is about how many people lived there on April 1st, not today. It sounds like the answer was at least one, maybe 2 or more.
Statist.
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It was a joke. Sheesh.
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I didn't think a true agorist would support feds.
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I didn't think a true agorist would support feds.
? Are you saying I support the feds? I'm against the census, even the first question. I put that symbol (:?) because Mr. HR Puph n Stuff has been portraying rather state-loving tendencies recently.
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A friend of mine, who has had the census harassers come by a few times, just had their door window broken.
When I was training one of my folks I explained to them that it may be helpful to knock loudly but it is best to do it on the door and not the glass window. Basic smarts. Sorry about your friend's loss.
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? Are you saying I support the feds? I'm against the census, even the first question. I put that symbol (:?) because Mr. HR Puph n Stuff has been portraying rather state-loving tendencies recently.
Oh. I thought you were upset he was being called a statist.
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I am upset because he is a statist. Note that in the quote above he is apologizing on the behalf of the government.
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I am upset because he is a statist. Note that in the quote above he is apologizing on the behalf of the government.
Then I take back what I said about joking.
Fuck that guy.
:-P
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I am upset because he is a statist. Note that in the quote above he is apologizing on the behalf of the government.
Then I take back what I said about joking.
Fuck that guy.
:-P
I like "sorry for your loss" as opposed to "sorry the census worker fucked it up--you can call this number to make a claim..."
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send an invoice to the census deprtment for the cost of a new window :P
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I am upset because he is a statist. Note that in the quote above he is apologizing on the behalf of the government.
Then I take back what I said about joking.
Fuck that guy.
:-P
I like "sorry for your loss" as opposed to "sorry the census worker fucked it up--you can call this number to make a claim..."
As if it were an "act of god" scenario.
Tragic but unavoidable that your window was smashed sir.
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My other act of Census defiance was "modifying" some of the Census propaganda posters they put up around my college campus.
I had some jumbo-sized post-it notes so I took a thick sharpie and wrote a little note reminding everyone that the Census was used to throw Japanese Americans into Internment Camps and to profile Muslim neighborhoods.
The next day, my notes were gone, so I just ripped the poster down and tossed it in the trash.
Im going to college in rural Mississippi, so I'm pretty sure most people around here would support those two census actions.
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Okay, I seemed to be done with the census critters, but I guess I wasn't. A different census critter showed up at my door moments ago.
Here's how it went:
census critter: Hi...I'm here for the census....
me: Somebody already came.
census critter: Well...that person didn't get the number of people in the house.
me: I know.
census critter: Can I get that number?
me: (smiling) No. (closing door)
I was actually prepared to provide the number to the first guy, but he turned around and left without bargaining for it. I resolved from the start I'd initially be nice, and if they push it, I will not. I regard bothering me multiple times (like, four in the mail and two in person) as pushing it.
The next time, it will be "You're trespassing on private property. Please leave." I guess I'll be charging the camcorder battery and chasing them off the property with it, if there's a next time.
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Last Sunday we got back from grocery shopping and saw a man with the black bag leaving a note. I turned around and ran another errand. The note was on a form, telling me that he would come back in a couple of days and requesting that I call.
I expect to not be home much of Memorial Day weekend, so I expect he won't catch us home. I hope this invasion ends soon.
My wife is nervous and has asked me to fill out the form. Of course, she asked that if the guy comes back that I only talk to him outside. She doesn't want government people in our home either.
I just entertained myself by reading some of the US Census Bureau's web site. This quote caught my eye:
The U.S. is a large, very diverse country. We know people who are angry and scared about their economic state and questioning whether government is helping make things better. Many report very low levels of trust in basic institutions. Despite all these negative signs in our society today, we have seemed to come together and responded at unanticipated levels.
That shows some understanding of the motivations of those who do not respond. I am somewhat conflicted. Part of me would like to participate. I like the idea of historical information being accurate. I once used old census information to trace some of my own family history. He hit it on the head with that quote, though. At the most fundamental level I simply cannot trust any branch of the government with any small piece of my personal information.
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A challenger appears....
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw-act/daily-fine-for-refusing-to-take-part-in-national-health-survey/story-e6freuzi-1225868408747
(http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw-act/daily-fine-for-refusing-to-take-part-in-national-health-survey/story-e6freuzi-1225868408747)
If i get called to answer this I will be living on a diet of KFC while running a marathon every day drinking copious amounts of alcohol and smoking cigarettes. lol
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(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/funny-pictures-cat-takes-census.jpg)
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(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/funny-pictures-cat-takes-census.jpg)
My woman and I giggled.
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i actually laffed at that one.
good on you rillion
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I keep finding more and more Census posters on this campus. It's getting ridiculous. Today there was one on a teacher's door that had a little innocent looking kid and say '10 questions that can help' or some horse poo like that