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Title: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Alex Libman on April 13, 2009, 10:02:37 AM
Post your suggestions and descriptions.   :P
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Riddler on April 13, 2009, 10:13:52 AM
what?
you create this thread & don't even post a single link yourself?
homo
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Njal on April 13, 2009, 10:22:44 AM
Only Socialist? I am having fun with Mormon apologists. www.mormonapologetics.org
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Alex Libman on April 13, 2009, 10:27:11 AM
you create this thread & don't even post a single link yourself?

I've trolled up plenty (i.e. I've previously mentioned JREF (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=23386) and CityData (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=27247.msg519040#msg519040)).  Now waiting for RevLeft.com (http://www.revleft.com/) to send me a validation e-mail so I could go troll some more, but I guess them Marx nuts can't even configure their sendmail right.  I need ideas, people!  :twisted:


Only Socialist? I am having fun with Mormon apologists. www.mormonapologetics.org

Um...  I'm a Mormon / Muslim apologist myself (though I'm an atheist).  Voluntary expressions of stupidity beat the involuntary kind, and people who'd fall for that nonsense could do a lot worse.  More libertarians come from the left wing of the mainstream political spectrum.  Convince a Marxist that 2 + 2 makes 4, and he just might get his head out of the toilet bowl.  Convince a religious nut that there is no God, and he'll steal your car.


Of course you could always not troll.

Not an option.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Alex Libman on April 13, 2009, 10:33:48 AM
Of course you could always not troll.
Not an option.
Remember that the next time you accuse me of compulsive behavior.

And when I accuse you of a bad / lacking sense of humor...
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Alex Libman on April 13, 2009, 11:14:00 AM
I'm not trying to amuse anyone but myself.  On this forum you're like a pet dog that aims to please or impress as many people as possible and be popular.  I'm like an animal that cannot be domesticated.  It doesn't take a genius to start an "excellent breasts" thread, I consider my "which host would you molest" thread to be of far greater intellectual value.  History will judge me right.

But getting back to my original point - your anal nitpick about my tongue-in-cheek use of the word "troll" is irrelevant.  Going to socialist forums and being disagreeing has a value to me (and possibly others), I'm not going to stop because Massa Shaw doesn't approve.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Alex Libman on April 13, 2009, 11:28:39 AM
Your recycled jokes and images bore me.

If the word "troll" has an objective definition, then on this thread you are it.

Go fly a kite.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Riddler on April 13, 2009, 11:36:17 AM
yes.
insert coin was stale THE SECOND TIME he used it
ad-fucking-nauseum
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: John Shaw on April 13, 2009, 11:47:41 AM
(Moved to "hijack free zone" in case the trolls persist.  Going up against a moderator troll is like going up against the federal government - you know you will lose, but you have to do the right thing anyway.)

LOL Troll.

Don't worry, I deleted my posts so you won't have to.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Alex Libman on April 13, 2009, 11:51:01 AM
OK, well then...

This thread is for suggesting links to socialist forums where an injection of libertarian opinion could be amusing, if not beneficial.

Anyone?
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: mikehz on April 13, 2009, 02:09:23 PM
Oh, I'll go ahead and throw one out: The Cyber Soapbox: http://www.cybersoapbox.com/SMF/index.php (http://www.cybersoapbox.com/SMF/index.php)
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Alex Libman on April 13, 2009, 02:27:58 PM
OK, one rule: forum content must be accessible to Googlebot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Googlebot) and other spidering engines that back up my trolltastic trollitude for progeny.  On that CyberSoapBox forum all I see before registering is "The WHACKS MUSEUM", so my posts could go down the memory hole (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_hole)...  not cool!  (That's also why I stay out of the AMP / Creative Team sub-forums here.)

Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: anarchir on April 13, 2009, 02:31:37 PM
bbs.freetalklive.com
bunch of suckers over there
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: anarchir on April 13, 2009, 02:32:26 PM
Oh, wait, I meant to post that in the other forum...




 :lol:
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: mikehz on April 13, 2009, 05:39:06 PM
OK, one rule: forum content must be accessible to Googlebot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Googlebot) and other spidering engines that back up my trolltastic trollitude for progeny.  On that CyberSoapBox forum all I see before registering is "The WHACKS MUSEUM", so my posts could go down the memory hole (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_hole)...  not cool!  (That's also why I stay out of the AMP / Creative Team sub-forums here.)



No--they have a whole bunch of boards. I used to post there all the time, but got tired of getting ganged-up on by socialists, and having to go through the entire thing over and over.

Life is too short.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Alex Libman on April 13, 2009, 05:44:39 PM
OK, one rule: forum content must be accessible to Googlebot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Googlebot) and other spidering engines that back up my trolltastic trollitude for progeny.  On that CyberSoapBox forum all I see before registering is "The WHACKS MUSEUM", so my posts could go down the memory hole (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_hole)...  not cool!  (That's also why I stay out of the AMP / Creative Team sub-forums here.)

No--they have a whole bunch of boards. I used to post there all the time, but got tired of getting ganged-up on by socialists, and having to go through the entire thing over and over.

I know they have a bunch of boards (which is obvious from post counts, etc), but you have to register to see them.  That means Google and Wayback Machine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayback_machine) don't crawl there, and if a mod or somebody censors me then it's gone for good.  (Sure, anyone can back up a forum after registering, but then it's not authoritative.)  I want my wisdom to echo in eternity.  :roll:


Life is too short.

Well, it's a matter of what your priorities are.  I find trolling socialist forums to be entertaining, as well as a way to challenge and perfect my ideas.  I'll eventually move on to more respectable and time-effective means of doing the same (wiki for organizing the best arguments, and perhaps even paid specialists to do the dirty work), but in the mean time forum trolling fits me just right.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: mikehz on April 14, 2009, 06:55:19 PM
In that case, I'll offer up this one, which has plenty of libertarian-bashing.

http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/ (http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/)
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Alex Libman on April 18, 2009, 04:26:22 PM
OK, I got myself banned on RevLeft after just a couple of hours and ten posts (http://www.revleft.com/vb/search.php?do=finduser&u=22761).  Reason given: "pedophile".  That's strange, I've only mentioned parents' rights very briefly in passing.  Maybe they've googled my name and found this forum, or another forum where I've expressed opposition to Internet censorship.  Well anywayz, I my irrational psychological need to be surrounded by sub-human idiots in an Internet forum has been fulfilled for the next few days.  :roll:
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: anarchir on April 18, 2009, 05:27:22 PM
Quote
"We want to debate, but only with people who see the world in the same way as we do."

Duh.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Riddler on April 18, 2009, 07:18:41 PM
OK, I got myself banned on RevLeft after just a couple of hours and ten posts (http://www.revleft.com/vb/search.php?do=finduser&u=22761).  Reason given: "pedophile".  That's strange,


detected by external sources. unrelated to FTL BBS
confirmed.
nigga.....you got a problem w/ little kids.
i got a problem w/ you + little kids.
i live in so. new hampshire.
don't ever hang your hat anywhere near here. (fyog) *for your own good*
do yourself a big fat favor & get yourself checked out.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Alex Libman on April 18, 2009, 07:21:59 PM
Google my name.  It's your retarded bashing threads...
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Riddler on April 18, 2009, 07:27:07 PM
Google my name.  It's your retarded bashing threads...


you talk crazy, kid-fucker
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: hayenmill on April 20, 2009, 06:12:23 PM
just thought i'd share my recent experience at revleft. I do not consider it trolling since I'm not really interested in pissing them off but rather to try new approaches to explaining why they might be wrong or a better alternative. anyway, here's an excerpt, where i ended up explaining economics


Quote:
Originally Posted by NecroCommie View Post
If we change the "at the point of a gun" to a more valid: "in face of necessity", one might argue that you contradict yourself. For one might say, that the deals made by the mob are two way agreements.


one thing is physical necessity, other is Coercion. Do not mistake the two. The system which has more freedom is the one that allows people to fulfill their necessities the most, without going into other people's freedom. If you wish to live, you must choose the rational choice of supplying for yourself. You can choose that by working your own land (in which you were born, in a more poverty centered way) or to sell your skills to people who seek them. Or steal. But all of them have consequences, and you must decide which one you wish to take.


Quote:
But land ownership (and later on factory ownership) gives birth to wage slavery. So if someone originally aquired land by finders keepers method, and used this "ownership" to enslave others, why is it unethical for the slaves "steal" back the taken land/factory/space/food.


How did he used his ownership to enslave others?

"Slavery is a form of forced labor in which people are considered to be, or treated as, the property of others. Slaves are held against their will from the time of their capture, purchase or birth, and are deprived of the right to leave, to refuse to work, or to receive compensation (such as wages). "


Quote:
OK, there might have been a misunderstanding here. No one tries to deny ALL private property. I deny the legitimazy of privately owned means of production, which is basically the cause for most of the suffering in this world. Private ownership of community objects such as roads factories and fields (and air water and space), holds no philosophical base.


i don't see how people being able to make what they want and buy what the want is the cause of the most suffering in this world. Kings and wars, religion, totalitarianism, collectivism is what i would argue what has killed more humans.


Quote:
The road workers dont have money to buy any stocks. Otherwise they would be road owners. You REALLY need to learn the concept of wage slavery. Job is not an agreement. It is slavery, for one has to get a job from capitalist. If not, you die (out of hunger, disease etc...) Therefore the workers agreed to nothing, and the employers are really just exploiters. We have had several discussions on the subject on this forum, and I'd prefer you see them before we start those discussions yet again.


the road workers don't need to buy the finished product. They can make it themselves right? Let them organize themselves gather enough money to buy the tools themselves and then keep the road to themselves and whoever they want to share it with.

And yes, a job is an agreement, especially in more poorer countries. What do you think has made the people stopping living of the countryside and started coming to the cities? Because by the same hard work (and trust me, it IS hard work) they did in the fields they could get better benefits in the cities doing something else. And you don't need to get a job from a capitalist to earn a wage. You can self employ yourself. You can sell whatever you can produce on your own with whatever tools you can buy to whoever is willing to buy.

but let me adress this from another perspective. "It is slavery, for one has to get a job from capitalist. If not, you die "

by that same logic, if i were an employer, i am enslaved by the workers i hire, because if they don't produce, I die too. Capitalists are as "enslaved" by the workers as the workers are by the capitalists.

Human beings must always engage in production in order to consume and survive. Thus, by your theory, man would be enslaved to nature itself. If man is always enslaved in some form or another, according to this view, the concept of slavery is of little use in order to draw distinctions between what is a coercive interpersonal relationship and what is not, thereby defeating the analytical purpose of wage slavery theory.

I honestly dont care about what other talks you had on this subject before. If your arguments are good enough, then you will want to show them to me.


Quote:
The slight difference is, that many capitalist economists define hiring labour as labour in itself. This can be disputed rather easily by noticing how the act of hiring produces little else than... well... hiring. We cant run a state by just hiring people, but we can run a state by just working.


i believe there doesn't need to be any state, nor would I have any desire in running it such i found its existence a "necessary evil"

Quote:
This means that if you hire labour but do not work yourself, you eat, but dont produce. You would be quite literally a parasite, and in communist terminology: a capitalist. Do notice that I dont mean YOU, but I just use the "you-passive" in order to demonstrate.


Money does not come out of thin air. It had to be produced. Imagine i were to start as a capitalist. How would I go? I decided to take some old cardboard in the trash can and use my engineering skills to make a chair out of it. then in the street, i put it for sale, and i discover, that people are willing to pay me more than it cost me to produce the chair (in this case it cost me nothing because it was regarded as trash. But in other businesses, the cost of making something is usually very low, but people are willing to pay more for it. And if they are not, then that "forces" me to lower my price and profit margin if i want to sell at all). Same with other assets, foods, products, you name it. That is how capitalists make their money. Then, I would wonder: this has real potential here, people really seem to like this recycled chair I invented. But, i cannot make more than 3 chairs a day. If i could find someone to help me then i could make more money. Thus they employ. Desperate people may be willing to accept low wages, but there comes a time when it might be better for them to go to another job because it pays them better. I could then try and find, hopelessly, someone who would accept my poor conditions or be "forced" to raise my wages in order to keep the best to myself.

(i think actually you might have mixed the fact that capitalists usually make so much money that they don't need to physically work in whatever business they made after a while, so the business carries on with little attention needed, only requiring money to pay for new machines, wages, etc.

Quote:
Also, capitalist economists make the assumption that all money is earned by waged labour, which in the case of corporate leaders is rarely the case. The money is rarely earned, but more often inherited, or exploited from the workers. (exploitation takes many forms including economic globalization, imperialism, wage slavery and the parasitic leeching of the excess value.) If this basic assumption of capitalism were right, I just might live with capitalism, but since all these faults exist, I am disgusted with the economic system I live in.


I think that both you and I can agree on something. What we have here today is state capitalism/crony capitalism, which I define as "an allegedly capitalist economy in which success in business depends on close relationships between businesspeople and government officials. It may be exhibited by favoritism in the distribution of legal permits, government grants, special tax breaks, and so forth."

how does this work? My business is losing profit because i made some bad decisions or because i am facing fierce competition. What do I do? I go to the government and tell them that the kind of work i need to do is very specialized work and that there needs to be regulation in how its done because it is very dangerous etc. Then the government passes that regulation, and appoints a comitte to decide who gets to produce what and when. And guess who's in the comittee? that's right, the leading experts of the field. and that includes "older and more experient busineses" like mine. In the end, my initial firm benefits the most. Not only will i lose a heck of a lot more competition, but since i start to grow as a monopoly, at some point i will be "too big to fail" and the government will bail me out, thus encouraging me to not care about how i make my profits at all. and if something does go wrong with my firm, i can just blame it on the "free market" and ask for even more regulation. Lobbyism, "asking for favors", whatever, the truth is this is how most of the big companies have gotten where they are today.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Alex Libman on April 20, 2009, 06:32:59 PM
just thought i'd share my recent experience at revleft.  [...]

Very good arguments in response to very bad ignorance.

Thank you for copying them here.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Rusty Nut on April 20, 2009, 09:16:42 PM
soviet-empire.com
 (http://soviet-empire.com)
They're a bunch of fucking psychopaths, my sn is Fin Fang Foom.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: MasterShake on April 20, 2009, 10:05:43 PM
One time some guys I knew and myself trolled the band Coldplay's forums

They're pretty big left wingers, and have in their contract that they be served no American beer whilst on tour.

Drat.  It appears that the forums are down.


This one could be fun...

http://community.freespeech.org/forum/

Its the forums for the "progressive" free speech TV network
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Rusty Nut on April 20, 2009, 10:40:25 PM
Libman, you inspired me to revisit the old soviet-empire forum.  Just made some posts; I feel this one is worthy enough to share.

Quote
Carius, people are incentivised to not work hard, or well. Simple as that.

When the government owns the means of producing something, and the production of that thing is at an undesirable rate or quality; what efficient mechanism is there to ramp up production and quality? Typically there is not one. Unlike "free-er" market systems wherein the share holders or the owner will simply either stop producing that product or will consider and implement ways of making production more efficient or whatnot. What happens under government, are bad workers fired? Nope. Are wasteful production methods corrected? Again, nope.

So where's the incentive for the worker to work at their full capacity? The truth is, there is not an incentive, they are incentivized to do the opposite actually. Look at it this way; if you knew you could go into work tomorrow sit on your butt all day and shoot the breeze, without any possibility of being fired or having your pay cut. Would you sit on your butt and shoot the breeze? Be honest with yourself.

Ownership is incentive, they are synonymous. When I own a business, I want my business to be profitable and productive. I will not run a business in the red for too long since it is of no profit to me. But the government cares not about profits. They will just waste and waste and waste. Also remember that this world is not a zero-sum gain, wealth is not stagnant. Wealth can and is created every day. So for you profit haters out there, profits are not stolen wealth, it is wealth that has been created.

For example, if I take a piece of wood and mix my labour with the wood to make a chair, and sale that chair I just made a profit, but it was not stolen. If you work for a business and you mix your labour with their capital, you just created a profit for the company and yourself. You are being paid for your labour which is a profit.

With all that in mind I still wouldn't say "Socialism fail's", it just doesn't succeed. Socialism really only fails when the government tries to keep up with mixed market economies, look the USSR could have gone on forever if it weren't for the cold war arms race. They killed their economy trying to do so. Socialism is possible, you just see high waste and low production, which leads to very little growth. Possible but not favorable; mixed markets are superior, free markets - vastly superior.

Am I making too much sense for you guys?

http://soviet-empire.com/ussr/viewtopic.php?f=107&t=43538&start=25 (http://soviet-empire.com/ussr/viewtopic.php?f=107&t=43538&start=25)

Feel free to join in.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Alex Libman on April 21, 2009, 09:28:39 AM
:shock:  wow...

Man, I grew up in the U.S.S.R, so...  wow...  I'll need to gather up my troll energy for that one a little bit.  Don't have the stomach for that brand of pig diarrhea right now.

Excellent post.  Thank you for copying.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Alex Libman on April 21, 2009, 10:32:23 AM
You have 7914 posts.  You should know that by now.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Luke Smith on May 24, 2009, 09:05:09 PM
Socialists are people who want free money off of other people. That's really all they are, if you strip away all their rhetoric. And I hate to say it, but the only solution against them is the John Galt solution. Because the minute you turn you're back, they're ganging up on you to take all your stuff away by getting the government to give them free health care, free social security money, free everything out of your pocket. So the only thing you can do is either put up with it or go John Galt.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Alex Libman 14 on May 24, 2009, 09:27:53 PM
I went John Galt, sorta.  It sucks...  (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sad027.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org)
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: stroppygob on September 06, 2009, 05:48:44 PM
Oh, I'll go ahead and throw one out: The Cyber Soapbox: http://www.cybersoapbox.com/SMF/index.php (http://www.cybersoapbox.com/SMF/index.php)

Apart from the fact that the CSB is not by any means "socialist", (having a no bannings and no deletions policy means it could never be this way,) it has a range of views from hard left to hard right from it's regular users.

What does it say about YOU Mike Hz, that you use this cowards way of trying to attract foes to the board. Got your arse handed to you there a few times did you?

Are you going to be honest at the CSB now, that you've been found out and admit what you posted here? I very much doubt it, right wingers like you revel in the cowardly anonymity of the net.

Petty, sniveling, mean-minded, shitbag that you are,.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on September 06, 2009, 06:08:58 PM
Welcome to this forum, stroppygob.

I never posted on the "Cyber Soapbox" (see above), and I doubt anyone else came from here to there either.


EDIT: PS: libertarians are not "right-wingers".
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: stroppygob on September 06, 2009, 06:11:07 PM
Thanks Alex.

I'll be interested in seeing if your member, mikeh,z has the courage of his convictions.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: mikehz on September 06, 2009, 07:48:25 PM
Yeah, I've been there. Not for awhile now. Largely socialist. The test: just try posting anything outside the party line.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: stroppygob on September 06, 2009, 08:08:07 PM
And what name did you use there Mike?

Oh and I cal you a liar too, the CSB is a free speech zone. It's not our fault you got your "dumb as a brick" views smashed into pieces.....
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on September 06, 2009, 08:09:25 PM
And what name did you use there Mike?

Oh and I cal you a liar too, the CSB is a free speech zone. It's not our fault you got your "dumb as a brick" views smashed into pieces.....
lmao ohkay.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: mikehz on September 06, 2009, 08:47:47 PM
And what name did you use there Mike?

Oh and I cal you a liar too, the CSB is a free speech zone. It's not our fault you got your "dumb as a brick" views smashed into pieces.....

I don't consider nasty, vitriolic personal attacks--which is all I've seen at CSB--anything resembling reasoned arguments. No view of mine has been "smashed to pieces," other than simple name-calling.

I recall that on my first visit to the forum, when I offered a dissenting viewpoint on some statist point or other, the response was (and I believe it was from you), "Fuck off!" Now, THAT'S a reasoned response! 
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: stroppygob on September 06, 2009, 09:06:13 PM
Liar.

What name did you use there jay sorry, Mike, so we can check out the veracity of your claim.....

Edited to change "their" to "there".
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on September 07, 2009, 02:01:28 AM
The irony is that you're bitching about how he's a liar because he said that you behaved the way you're currently behaving on the other forum as well.  :lol: :lol: Dumb statists.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: mikehz on September 07, 2009, 02:31:03 AM
Liar.

What name did you use there jay sorry, Mike, so we can check out the veracity of your claim.....

Edited to change "their" to "there".

No, I'm not Jay.

When I first posted on CSB I did so as "Coat." But, I got tired of using different names on differnt boards, and so switched it to my own name, which is fairly close to "MikeHz." That's all I use online now.

 
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: stroppygob on September 07, 2009, 05:08:00 PM
I owe you an apology for accusing you (abet indirectly ) of being that arse Jay, and thanks for your honesty Mike.

I do not agree with your views on the CSB, but each to their own.

Seeing as your posting of a link to the CSB has not resulted in any trolling, I think we can both let this one go.

Best wishes,

Stroppygob.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on September 07, 2009, 05:13:40 PM
My opinion about mikehz's integrity was formed from observing him on this forum for years.

My opinion about stroppygob's lack of integrity could be formed in mere minutes!


Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: stroppygob on September 07, 2009, 05:25:15 PM
Feel free to Alex.

My option on someone who starts a thread inviting his mates to go spoil other people's discussions, due to their own forum being full of nothing but people agreeing with each other, a refuge for those scared of dissent, new information and alternative ideas, the intellectual equivalent of a row of nodding dogs,  is plain to see.

(http://www.allproducts.com/gift/sundeal/Product-200912319129-l.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on September 07, 2009, 07:38:29 PM
Newsflash.

All libertarians agree with each other.

Wow.

:lol:
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: mikehz on September 07, 2009, 08:24:08 PM
I visit plenty of forums on which people disagree, sometimes strongly, with my views. However, so long as such disagreement remains civil, it does not bother me in the least.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: stroppygob on September 07, 2009, 08:38:11 PM
Newsflash.

All libertarians agree with each other.

Wow.

:lol:

The Michael Moore threads here stand as a good example;

"I hate Michael Moore."
"I hate him more than you do."
"I hate him the most"
"I have hated him forever."
"I hate his movies and he's fat."
"I hate his movies and he's a fat slob."
"I hate his fat movies and he's a fat statist, so there!"

Wow, what a hive of intellectualism and deep thought this place is. Lucky there's no one here to disagree with you eh?
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: digitalfour on September 07, 2009, 09:04:17 PM
To you have any actual arguments?
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: rabidfurby on September 07, 2009, 09:48:08 PM
Wow, what a hive of intellectualism and deep thought this place is. Lucky there's no one here to disagree with you eh?

How's that trolling working out for ya? Pay well?
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: stroppygob on September 07, 2009, 10:27:40 PM
To you have any actual arguments?

Do I need one? The author of this thread specifically set out to try to drum up support for trolling other sites. I found out that a site which I use has been missdescribed as "socialist" I came across here and gave my views.

Surely if the author of this trhead thinks disrupting other people's discussions is  worthwhile thing to do, I can come here and tell him what I think about that.

Why are you lot so afraid of debate that you hang out at a monotheistic website in any case?
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: blackie on September 07, 2009, 10:43:44 PM
due to their own forum being full of nothing but people agreeing with each other
I guess you haven't seen the Jew threads. We agree about everything except the Jews.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: mikehz on September 07, 2009, 11:06:44 PM
Newsflash.

All libertarians agree with each other.

Wow.

:lol:

The Michael Moore threads here stand as a good example;

"I hate Michael Moore."
"I hate him more than you do."
"I hate him the most"
"I have hated him forever."
"I hate his movies and he's fat."
"I hate his movies and he's a fat slob."
"I hate his fat movies and he's a fat statist, so there!"

Wow, what a hive of intellectualism and deep thought this place is. Lucky there's no one here to disagree with you eh?

You come to a libertarian site and are surprised that people don't agree with Moore? I suspect virtually everyone at CSB love the guy.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on September 07, 2009, 11:58:51 PM
due to their own forum being full of nothing but people agreeing with each other
I guess you haven't seen the Jew threads. We agree about everything except the Jews.
:D
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on September 08, 2009, 12:03:44 AM
I like Michael Moore when he's bashing the half of the socialists that he doesn't agree with (ex. Bush).

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day...  :roll:
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: mikehz on September 08, 2009, 12:58:35 AM
I like Michael Moore when he's bashing the half of the socialists that he doesn't agree with (ex. Bush).

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day...  :roll:


Except with digital.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: stroppygob on September 08, 2009, 01:27:31 AM

You come to a libertarian site and are surprised that people don't agree with Moore? I suspect virtually everyone at CSB love the guy.
Ok, apart from the fact I was not surprised that such a bunch of conformists would not like Moore, after all you come here NOT to have your opinions challenged,  lets have a look see....

From a thread started on The new MM movie at the CSB...

Quote
Tearing down the whole system because of three of the top worst; no.

I suggest Moore lead by example....

He should take all the filthy lucre he's made from the capitalist system and redistribute it in even portions to 1000 deserving people.....

I have to confess that I don't like Michael Moore.   He's a slob.


So half the posts/posters are anti-Moore, a good balance which makes for reasonable debate.

In past, more developed, threads about Moore, the split has been the same.

Where as here, where people come to feel safe that their views will not be challenged....  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: One two three on September 08, 2009, 01:33:24 AM
Yet another person to add to my ignore list...
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: stroppygob on September 08, 2009, 01:36:04 AM
Wow, another demonstration of abject cowardice in the face of a dissenting view. Way to go rugged individualists!
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on September 08, 2009, 01:56:11 AM
I see the irony of the socialist coming to the "Best Socialist Forums To Troll" thread to troll.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: stroppygob on September 08, 2009, 01:58:06 AM
a) I'm not a socialist.
b) Do you even know what a socialist believes?
c) Do you not see the irony of a forum for "Libertarians" to hide from dissent?
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on September 08, 2009, 02:00:31 AM
a) I'm not a socialist.
b) Do you even know what a socialist believes?
c) Do you not see the irony of a forum for "Libertarians" to hide from dissent?

As one of the centers of controversy on this forum, I laugh at you.

Have you even looked at any threads outside of this one?
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on September 08, 2009, 10:28:50 AM
Socialism is a relativistic term.  You're clearly more socialist than we are.


I like Michael Moore when he's bashing the half of the socialists that he doesn't agree with (ex. Bush).

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day...  :roll:

Except with digital.

I used to add that qualifier (ex) (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=4891498&postcount=30), but then I've made the linguistic resolution that most digital time mechanisms don't "stop" (which implies motion), they "power off".
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: stroppygob on September 08, 2009, 05:09:30 PM

Have you even looked at any threads outside of this one?

Yep, mostly childlike braggadocio and squabbling over who is more "libertarian". Done in the main by people who wouldn't stand a chance of making it in a truly free market world.


Socialism is a relativistic term.  You're clearly more socialist than we are.



Agreed. Most intelligent people see beyond unipolar political stances, and recognise the need for a wide range of options.

 Only fools and cowards hide behind single dogmas (and forums which support them).
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on September 08, 2009, 05:44:06 PM
Hide?  I have accounts on dozens of forums.

I even tried RevLeft.com before they banned me.  :lol:
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: blackie on September 08, 2009, 05:50:41 PM
I've been banned from the FreeStateProject.org and NHfree.com forums.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on September 08, 2009, 05:56:21 PM
Really?  What does it take to get banned from the FreeStateProject.org forum?

Trying to convert Jason Sorens to anthropocentric evolutionary pragmatism (http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=17519) hasn't done the trick so far...  :lol:
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: blackie on September 08, 2009, 06:12:00 PM
Really?  What does it take to get banned from the FreeStateProject.org forum?
An admin removed my signature, so I changed it to "Signature removed by Forum Nazi". That got me banned.

It was a quote from John Barnes, vice-chair of the LPNH, before they removed it.  "THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE IS NOT YOUR FRIEND" -John Barnes (http://save-grafton.blogspot.com/2004/10/libertarian-party-of-new-hampshire-is.html)
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on September 08, 2009, 06:37:56 PM
Wow...

I think that more should be done to differentiate Free State Project Inc from the rest of the polycentric FSP movement...
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on September 08, 2009, 09:28:05 PM

Have you even looked at any threads outside of this one?

Yep, mostly childlike braggadocio and squabbling over who is more "libertarian". Done in the main by people who wouldn't stand a chance of making it in a truly free market world.


Socialism is a relativistic term.  You're clearly more socialist than we are.



Agreed. Most intelligent people see beyond unipolar political stances, and recognise the need for a wide range of options.

 Only fools and cowards hide behind single dogmas (and forums which support them).
Well consider yourself invited to post a thread on your ideas or to respond to any other thread besides this one with thoughtful commentary.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: blackie on September 08, 2009, 09:58:27 PM
Most intelligent people see beyond unipolar political stances, and recognise the need for a wide range of options.
Having a wide range of options is fine, until you want me to pay for those options.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: stroppygob on September 08, 2009, 10:32:28 PM
Most intelligent people see beyond unipolar political stances, and recognise the need for a wide range of options.
Having a wide range of options is fine, until you want me to pay for those options.

Which automatically excludes any forms of social cohesion, which is very stupid.



Well consider yourself invited to post a thread on your ideas or to respond to any other thread besides this one with thoughtful commentary.

Why the hell should I obey your rules? I'm a rugged individualist libertarian, such conformity is not for me! I'll post anything I want, wherever I want!!
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: blackie on September 08, 2009, 10:41:40 PM
Most intelligent people see beyond unipolar political stances, and recognise the need for a wide range of options.
Having a wide range of options is fine, until you want me to pay for those options.

Which automatically excludes any forms of social cohesion, which is very stupid.
So you think it is a good idea to force people to pay for things they don't agree with?
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Libertarianssuck on September 08, 2009, 10:50:49 PM
Most intelligent people see beyond unipolar political stances, and recognise the need for a wide range of options.
Having a wide range of options is fine, until you want me to pay for those options.

Which automatically excludes any forms of social cohesion, which is very stupid.
So you think it is a good idea to force people to pay for things they don't agree with?

Look buddy someone has to pay for the crack whore across the street from me. She has 3 children and she's strung out all the time on w/e she can get her hands on. Someones gotta pay for that section 8 program and she's gonna need foodstamps. If she doesnt get all that then she won't be able to buy her crack next time and we can't have that.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on September 08, 2009, 10:53:11 PM
Most intelligent people see beyond unipolar political stances, and recognise the need for a wide range of options.
Having a wide range of options is fine, until you want me to pay for those options.

Which automatically excludes any forms of social cohesion, which is very stupid.



Well consider yourself invited to post a thread on your ideas or to respond to any other thread besides this one with thoughtful commentary.

Why the hell should I obey your rules? I'm a rugged individualist libertarian, such conformity is not for me! I'll post anything I want, wherever I want!!
Yeah I'm not surprised you're an imbecile.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: stroppygob on September 09, 2009, 04:51:28 AM

So you think it is a good idea to force people to pay for things they don't agree with?

Oh god, simplistic answers are so much fun.,.

No, I think that part of agreeing to live within a society is to agree to live within that society's norms and values.

Do you know the difference between Communism and Libertarianism?

Communism was tried and failed, libertarianism is too stupid to be worth trying.

That is why there are still some communist states in the world, but the closest you will come to a "Libertarian" state is Somalia.

Hey, if it's such a good idea, how come you lot don't move to Somalia and set up Libertopia?  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on September 09, 2009, 08:56:16 AM
No, I think that part of agreeing to live within a society is to agree to live within that society's norms and values.

And throwing millions of non-violent people into prison if they don't agree, not to mention all the blood that has been spilled by your government to put down numerous tax resistance movements, secession attempts, and other serious forms of dissent.


Do you know the difference between Communism and Libertarianism?
Communism was tried and failed, libertarianism is too stupid to be worth trying.

Communism is irrational, completely detached from economic reality, and has never been able to exist on any significant scale without massive amounts of tyranny.

Libertarianism (i.e. free market capitalism) has shown itself to be a competitive advantage 100% of the time.  Places like pre-socialist America or Hong Kong represent the benefits of small government, greater personal freedom, and greater recognition of natural rights.

If you believe greater forms of libertarianism are "too stupid to be worth trying", then why don't you call back your jackbooted thugs and just let us fail?


That is why there are still some communist states in the world, but the closest you will come to a "Libertarian" state is Somalia.  Hey, if it's such a good idea, how come you lot don't move to Somalia and set up Libertopia?

That propaganda talking point does NOT become any more true or any less stupid the more often you repeat it.  Somalia is a failed communist / theocratic state.  It has a big oppressive government, one of the worst in the world - it just happened to be fragmented and fighting with itself.  Saying that Somalia has no government is kind of like saying Europe had no governments during the world wars!
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: blackie on September 09, 2009, 09:07:53 AM

So you think it is a good idea to force people to pay for things they don't agree with?

Oh god, simplistic answers are so much fun.,.

No, I think that part of agreeing to live within a society is to agree to live within that society's norms and values.
Oh, so the Jews living in and around Germany during the 1930's and 40's agreed to being put into concentration camps and ghettos. If they didn't like it they should have left, right?
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on September 09, 2009, 10:02:59 AM
And they couldn't leave - many governments prevented their entry, including the American government (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St._Louis).
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: stroppygob on September 09, 2009, 05:23:25 PM

Oh, so the Jews living in and around Germany during the 1930's and 40's agreed to being put into concentration camps and ghettos. If they didn't like it they should have left, right?
And who from Libertopia would have ended that evil?  :lol: :lol: :lol:

You guys are funny...
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: blackie on September 09, 2009, 05:32:02 PM

Oh, so the Jews living in and around Germany during the 1930's and 40's agreed to being put into concentration camps and ghettos. If they didn't like it they should have left, right?
And who from Libertopia would have ended that evil?
That would be for each individual to decide. Maybe volunteers, or maybe no one. Not my problem.  But it wouldn't be a conscript army.

Quote
You guys are funny...
It's better to be funny, than to be evil, like you.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: stroppygob on September 09, 2009, 05:34:32 PM

Oh, so the Jews living in and around Germany during the 1930's and 40's agreed to being put into concentration camps and ghettos. If they didn't like it they should have left, right?
And who from Libertopia would have ended that evil?
That would be for each individual to decide. Maybe volunteers, or maybe no one. Not my problem.  But it wouldn't be a conscript army.

ROTFLMCO!!! Yeah right, and you wonder why no one takes you lot seriously?  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: blackie on September 09, 2009, 05:35:38 PM

Oh, so the Jews living in and around Germany during the 1930's and 40's agreed to being put into concentration camps and ghettos. If they didn't like it they should have left, right?
And who from Libertopia would have ended that evil?
That would be for each individual to decide. Maybe volunteers, or maybe no one. Not my problem.  But it wouldn't be a conscript army.
ROTFLMCO!!! Yeah right, and you wonder why no one takes you lot seriously?  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

So what would your solution be?
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: stroppygob on September 09, 2009, 05:48:36 PM
Oh, we could just let the brave soldiers of real nations, like the Brits and the USSR sort it out, while the cowardly Libertopians only enter the war during the final phase so they can make movies about it..

"Hey, the evil Nazi's are killing Jews by the thousand, anyone volunteering to go fight them?"

Sure, but only in a  non organised way, with no hierarchy of command, and if there's a hint of socialism about the way it's organised I'm not going."

"Who's going to organise the construction of warships?"

"Not going...."
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: blackie on September 09, 2009, 05:52:38 PM
Oh, we could just let the brave soldiers of real nations, like the Brits and the USSR sort it out, while the cowardly Libertopians only enter the war during the final phase so they can make movies about it..

"Hey, the evil Nazi's are killing Jews by the thousand, anyone volunteering to go fight them?"

Sure, but only in a  non organised way, with no hierarchy of command, and if there's a hint of socialism about the way it's organised I'm not going."

"Who's going to organise the construction of warships?"

"Not going...."

Why should I care about the Jews?
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: stroppygob on September 09, 2009, 06:13:42 PM

Why should I care about the Jews?

Damn right, no one cares about you, why should you care about anyone?
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: blackie on September 09, 2009, 06:21:00 PM

Why should I care about the Jews?

Damn right, no one cares about you, why should you care about anyone?
Nigger please.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on September 09, 2009, 06:21:19 PM
And who from Libertopia would have ended that evil?

Of course it would.  Read Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churchill,_Hitler_and_the_Unnecessary_War) by Pat Buchanan.  It takes two governments to have a war, and Germany would have avoided WW1 if it could.  No WW1, no WW2, no Holocaust.  Besides, without the wide-spread "divine right of governments" delusion, Hitler would be just another delusional thug.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Andy on September 09, 2009, 10:42:03 PM
More than that, probably, no American involvement in WW1 no WW2. At least not in the same form, maybe the red hordes would have rolled out at some point.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on September 17, 2009, 04:32:26 AM
Anyways, back on topic...

I've been spending lots of time (http://www.debatepolitics.com/members/alex-libman.html) on DebatePolitics.com (http://www.debatepolitics.com/) lately, which is a pretty good forum where mods are fair (especially compared to the likes of JREF).  One of the people there just started an "Anarcho-Capitalists: I'm Calling You Out (http://www.debatepolitics.com/general-political-discussion/56560-anarcho-capitalists-im-calling-you-out.html)" thread.  It could get interesting, but I don't think I'll have the time to keep up with it alone...  Can anyone here help me out?  ;)
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: anarchir on September 21, 2009, 03:12:20 PM
I scanned a bit of it.  They seem to be ignoring your finer points. 

I'd mention that every way that they say your policing wouldnt work, wouldnt work in their system either or at least would be far worse in theirs.

Markets don't need "structure" from the government to work (I think they are referring to regulations), just look at the internet.

Also, as to that guys anecdote: Anarchists can have leaders. In fact, even the ones that disagree with that statement have leaders.
"A strong people need no leaders"-Zapata(http://www.freedomarchives.org/La_Lucha_Continua/images/e_zapata.jpg)

What they cannot have is a governing body. Leaders are impossible to avoid, however following someone because you respect/trust them is entirely voluntary.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Jimbo68 on September 21, 2009, 03:49:38 PM
"Oh, we could just let the brave soldiers of real nations, like the Brits and the USSR sort it out, while the cowardly Libertopians only enter the war during the final phase so they can make movies about it.."

 Gee, if my Frog & Limey cousins would have lived up to treaty obligations with the Poles and WALKED into Germany while my wife's Polish peeps were tangling with most of the Wehrmacht & Waffen-SS the war would've been a feather in your nation's cap. You faced crappy 2nd & 3rd rate German units  & the Saar region would have been yours in no time.

Your lummox of a General, "Tiger", aka fat boy Gort of the BEF in France spent more time with his panties in a wad over TA Officers not having proper table manners & square bashing than preparing for blitzkreig.

 You are welcome, because we ended up providing 3/4s of the trucks you used due to your labor unions fucking up production and refusing to adopt mass production techniques in factories despite the threat to your nation's existence.

You are welcome for all the raw materials, food and weaponry we supplied you with throughout the war.

At the beginning of the war, we had an Army smaller than Romania's. Our economy was in the toilet & justifying growing the military was a non-starter. If you have a beef with how easily we go to war in this day and age, and that's a justifiable view IMO, how can you fault us for not joining in on WWII until Pearl Harbor???

"so they can make movies about it.." Make your own movies about WWII, nobody is stopping you. Something about the 43rd Wessex Wyvern Division would be a killer production.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Libertarianssuck on September 23, 2009, 01:44:09 PM
Anyways, back on topic...

I've been spending lots of time (http://www.debatepolitics.com/members/alex-libman.html) on DebatePolitics.com (http://www.debatepolitics.com/) lately, which is a pretty good forum where mods are fair (especially compared to the likes of JREF).  One of the people there just started an "Anarcho-Capitalists: I'm Calling You Out (http://www.debatepolitics.com/general-political-discussion/56560-anarcho-capitalists-im-calling-you-out.html)" thread.  It could get interesting, but I don't think I'll have the time to keep up with it alone...  Can anyone here help me out?  ;)

I just noticed the post and went to browse those forums on my usual unproductive boring work day. Found it quite entertaining to read.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Terror Australis on September 24, 2009, 09:28:59 AM
Anyways, back on topic...

I've been spending lots of time (http://www.debatepolitics.com/members/alex-libman.html) on DebatePolitics.com (http://www.debatepolitics.com/) lately, which is a pretty good forum where mods are fair (especially compared to the likes of JREF).  One of the people there just started an "Anarcho-Capitalists: I'm Calling You Out (http://www.debatepolitics.com/general-political-discussion/56560-anarcho-capitalists-im-calling-you-out.html)" thread.  It could get interesting, but I don't think I'll have the time to keep up with it alone...  Can anyone here help me out?  ;)

I just noticed the post and went to browse those forums on my usual unproductive boring work day. Found it quite entertaining to read.


I just posted a rant on that thread lol
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on October 16, 2009, 03:29:30 AM
DebatePolitics.com (http://www.debatepolitics.com/members/alex-libman.html) was going pretty well, but the mods overreact (http://www.debatepolitics.com/middle-east/57330-martial-law-me-forum.html) to one issue: Zionism.

I've received point-carrying infractions for posts on three threads, all related: "'Palestinian'? (http://www.debatepolitics.com/middle-east/48589-palestinian-8.html)", "Right of Return (http://www.debatepolitics.com/middle-east/58083-right-return-post1058306699.html#post1058306699)", and most recently: "What an Israeli Strike On Iran Might Look Like (http://www.debatepolitics.com/middle-east/57217-what-israeli-strike-iran-might-look-like-post1058310234.html#post1058310234)".

That last one got me "Temp Suspended" with the following comment:

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Reason: Hate Messages

Enough is enough. I have watched you consistently skirt in the ledge of hate speech. You have now gone over the edge, using several classically anti-semetic websites to "bolster" your argument. You are now on a two weeks suspension. I suggest that, upon your return, you alter how you post.

Needless to say, I'll come back swinging and get myself banned.  And so should you.

So the question is - which forum is next?
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on October 19, 2009, 08:47:35 PM
And then there's this forum.  Cycle your account one or two dozen times, and the mods try to put a spam filter on your IP / login - what's up with dat?!

It was only applicable to sign-ups, so I've assumed it was just a prank.  I'll leave if I'm not wanted, but, c'mon, block me at the Web server / firewall level...  After all these years, don't I at least deserve that much?

:lol:

Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: John Shaw on October 19, 2009, 09:25:45 PM
And then there's this forum.  Cycle your account one or two dozen times, and the mods try to put a spam filter on your IP / login - what's up with dat?!

It was only applicable to sign-ups, so I've assumed it was just a prank.  I'll leave if I'm not wanted, but, c'mon, block me at the Web server / firewall level...  After all these years, don't I at least deserve that much?

:lol:


You're fucking paranoid. No one is messing with your account. At all.

Admins have certainly been putting anti spam tools into place, however. You may be caught up in the mix somehow. Probably for some douchefag software you have running that looks like a bot.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on October 31, 2009, 10:51:31 PM
My "Temp Suspension" from DebatePolitics.com (http://www.debatepolitics.com/members/alex-libman.html) ended, and I returned, changing my signature to "THIS FORUM IS NOT A PLACE WHERE THE U.S. FOREIGN POLICY OR THE MIDDLE EAST CAN BE DISCUSSED FAIRLY AND HONESTLY.  I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO FIND A DIFFERENT WEB-SITE INSTEAD."

A day later, I got the following PM:

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Hi Alex,

Your signature is in violation of Rule 4 (Don't be a Jerk). You have 24 hours from the time of this
PM to change it to something that does NOT violate forum rules, or you will receive an infraction.

CaptainCourtesy
Debate Politics Moderation Team

So I added the following to my sig: "(AND WHEN 'CaptainCourtesy' THREATENED TO BAN ME IF I DON'T CHANGE THIS SIGNATURE, I TOLD HIM TO GO **** HIMSELF.  SO LONG.)".

:D
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on October 31, 2009, 11:46:39 PM
OK, now I've been banned:

Quote
You have been banned for the following reason:
Breaking a rule towards a Mod

Date the ban will be lifted: Never

838 posts - beating CityData's 692, but just short of JREF's 865 and Liberty Forest's 1246.

(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-whacky094.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)


So the question is - which forum is next?
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: hayenmill on November 06, 2009, 05:16:34 PM
1477 posts at RevLeft and counting

I dunno...I kind of became fond of them. Especially after trolling White Nationalists. Boy are those deranged! Made me respect communists a bit more.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Level 20 Anklebiter on November 07, 2009, 02:45:48 PM
Socialists troll themselves by design.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on November 07, 2009, 05:33:01 PM
1477 posts at RevLeft and counting

Wow, mega-kudos!   (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-cool21.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

They've banned me (http://www.revleft.com/vb/member.php?u=22761) after just 10 of posts.  :lol:
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: hayenmill on November 07, 2009, 05:58:31 PM
1477 posts at RevLeft and counting

Wow, mega-kudos!   (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-cool21.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

They've banned me (http://www.revleft.com/vb/member.php?u=22761) after just 10 of posts.  :lol:


I remmember you from there actually. We both entered aproximately at the same time. In fact, I only went there because of your thread, right after you started it.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: MacFall on November 09, 2009, 09:55:15 AM
I'm thinking of starting a thread with a list of the best nests of stinging, poisonous insects in which to put your penis.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on November 09, 2009, 09:56:46 AM
I'm thinking of starting a thread with a list of the best nests of stinging, poisonous insects in which to put your penis.
Meat Wasps in poison ivy.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on November 09, 2009, 11:46:20 AM
My only consolation is that with each passing day I am one day closer to death.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on December 15, 2009, 03:02:21 AM
I didn't come (http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=965147) to UbuntuForums.org (http://ubuntuforums.org/) to be a troll, but my outspokenness on Global Warming (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1353254&page=5) and especially on restrictive vs permissive "free" software licensing issues (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1355497) [2] (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1354778) will probably get me "in trouble" once again...  :lol:

I've also started trolling on Slashdot (http://slashdot.org/~AlexLibman) again (where I haven't posted in years, and I used a different account the last time, not my real name).  Needless to say, my Karma's less than zero.  :roll:


EDIT: now the Ubuntu commies have started to delete my posts that took me hours to write!  :x
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on January 09, 2010, 07:15:08 PM
I've been banned from forums.freebsd.org as well, this time for speaking out on a thread pimping for government violence (http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=10174) against the Oracle - Sun acquisition (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=28517.new).  The cocksucker mod (DutchDaemon) also deleted all my posts, including a dozen posts where I was reporting bugs and helping other people.  Retard!

Well, there goes another operating system I will not use...  Pretty soon I'll be forced to write my own...  :cry:
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on January 24, 2010, 10:35:18 PM
Dear AnCap Troll Diary,

Three news items to report tonight:


(1)  I just finished my trolling career on Slashdot.org (http://slashdot.org/~AlexLibman) (I trolled under a different account there a few years earlier).  All disagreements with the mainstream socialist point of view there quickly results in your karma falling through the floor, leaving you unable to reply for 24 hours and your posts never seeing the light of Googlebot.  It's best to let those script kiddies boil in their own collectivist juices - there are better geek forums worth trolling elsewhere.


(2)  And it looks like now I'm fighting the good fight on the FSP Inc forum (http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=19932.msg236048#msg236048) - and, just like with JREF, it is over the Browns.  (No, I'm not calling FSP Inc socialist by mentioning them on this thread, I just like to reuse threads for multiple similar events, and the original title string sometimes ends up proving to be imperfect.)  The villain - their moderator, the infamously obtuse (http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=17519.msg225510#msg225510) B.D. Ross.  My response to a post being deleted:

           
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Was my post from here just deleted??

           
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Apparently it was -

Your most recent post on the above-titled thread at http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=19932.msg236048#msg236048 has been removed. Posts promoting the initiation of violence will be removed. Please refer to the forum posting guidelines (http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=3263) for more information.

Now: all I've said was something along the lines of government thugs deserving to die the death of 10,000 cuts.  I said they deserved it, I didn't say it was an ideal strategy to execute.  Furthermore, "death of 10,000 cuts" is an idiom that means to gradually reduce government waste.  Look it up.  If English is your first language, then, well, shame on you (and your literature / reading comprehension teachers).

I stand by my original angry outburst - an appropriately passionate reaction to Ed and Elaine Brown's (figurative) crucifixion by the vile government that oppresses us all!

I hope you will not censor me any further on this.  The legitimacy of the anal-retentive FSP Inc within the much larger Free State Project movement is hanging by a thin thread - please try not to do anything to sever that thread any further.


(3)  In other news, I've been unbanned from UbuntuForums.org (http://ubuntuforums.org/).  They still claim that my temporary banishment was over "political discussion", even though I've merely joined existing lengthy political discussions and expressed my "politically incorrect" point of view.  Further confrontation there is probable - in due time.


Stay tuned.
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: YixilTesiphon on August 09, 2010, 07:43:26 AM
Is necroing an Alex Libman thread taking it too far?

Anyways, I'd like to nominate Fark as a socialist forum by this point. Anything criticizing Obama gets responded to with a chorus of "DERP DERP DERP", and the motherfuckers there even defend TARP. THEY DEFEND TARP!
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: Terror Australis on August 09, 2010, 08:21:05 AM
Is necroing an Alex Libman thread taking it too far?

Anyways, I'd like to nominate Fark as a socialist forum by this point. Anything criticizing Obama gets responded to with a chorus of "DERP DERP DERP", and the motherfuckers there even defend TARP. THEY DEFEND TARP!

(http://www.icanhasforce.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/star-wars-ackbar-tarp.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Socialist Forums To Troll
Post by: yamnuska on August 12, 2010, 12:07:50 AM
http://www.greaterfool.ca/ (http://www.greaterfool.ca/)

It's not a forum, it's a blog but there are lots of Socialists, blogger lets lots of shit through. Gets hundreds of comments a day.