The Free Talk Live BBS
Free Talk Live => General => Topic started by: FTL_Ian on October 20, 2011, 03:41:22 PM
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Visits to the BBS for the last three years:
(http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp314/FTL_Ian/bbsfail.jpg)
Any suggestions as to how to get this place off of life support?
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Lets all transition to high performance teams. We could go to one of those retreats and climb trees and things to develop trust and faithfulness.
What? Doubts?? My company isn't having any :shock:
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Acknowledge the failure of unmoderated anonymity.
Confine naughty words and such to one section of the board for AMP only, to shield the unsuspecting public from it.
Enforce a code of civility and respect.
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Promote in more. And when you promote it on FTL don't say bad things about it.
Of course, that might hurt your actual show.
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First decide why the BBS should be here and what purpose it should serve.
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Already made them clear via other channels, but here:
Reboot BBS (Vocally, on the show) while maintaining a couple very popular choice threads.
"We're relaunching the BBS and starting it up from scratch, and retooling the TOS as the last one was a disaster and a failed experiment." EDIT "But don't worry folks, the excellent breasts thread is still alive and as fun as ever!"
Trust the mods to do their job. Trust them or don't bring them on.
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Creating a friendlier environment for content generators by disallowing chronic abusive behavior and letting your mods enforce it will drive your traffic. A mod should never wonder whether the site owner will suddenly turn capricious and undo their work, unless there is a rational discussion.
Consider the idea of making the whole thing AMP only. Consider the idea of people being able to amp for any amount, like a tip jar. (Thanks Brasky) A non zero sum, even if it's a penny, will do a lot to mitigate trolls.
Happy users are content generators. Happy users participate. Scared and offended users lurk and rarely chime in.
Make your users happy and they will reward you with traffic.
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Promote in more. And when you promote it on FTL don't say bad things about it.
Of course, that might hurt your actual show.
This.
But also, if you look at statistics and studies of how internet forums work. They get a steady explosion when they first start, then eventually die out until there remains a slowly cycling tight-knit group of core users. Thats where we are now.
I dont really see what the problem is for the BBS. I enjoy it, comment frequently.
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Acknowledge the failure of unmoderated anonymity.
Confine naughty words and such to one section of the board for AMP only, to shield the unsuspecting public from it.
Enforce a code of civility and respect.
Ding ding ding! Winner winner, chicken dinner.
Personal responsibility is paramount to civility and respectful discourse.
I don't mind some bullshit, but sometimes it's inappropriate. This fuckers on in sixty markets? And you have like, twelve regs?
Something reeks, and I think it's people being grossed out by anything-goes. For every punk (no disrespect to punks) you've got a counterpart like ol' Mike HZ, and he may feel "okay" with people being slap-happy, but maybe it should be confined to the basement.
The General area should be more reserved, no saying rude shit to each other. I can even see the occasional "fuck you", and the Ignore button obviously works, but some people get really carried away. And I think that gives the place a slimy image.
I didn't give a whole hellofa lot of thought, I'm just rattling. More leeway to move shit from the General to the HFZ and Troll Room, WITHOUT everyone bitching up a storm, might be helpful.
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It's not a shocker to realize that the traffic stopped when I stopped trolling this BBS.
I should start posting more naked people.
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The "Excellent Breasts" thread needs to be revived.
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The "Excellent Breasts" thread needs to be revived.
Happy users are content generators. Happy users participate. Scared and offended users lurk and rarely chime in.
Make your users happy and they will reward you with traffic.
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Already made them clear via other channels, but here:
Reboot BBS (Vocally, on the show) while maintaining a couple very popular choice threads.
"We're relaunching the BBS and starting it up from scratch, and retooling the TOS as the last one was a disaster and a failed experiment." EDIT "But don't worry folks, the excellent breasts thread is still alive and as fun as ever!"
Trust the mods to do their job. Trust them or don't bring them on.
Most importantly -
Creating a friendlier environment for content generators by disallowing chronic abusive behavior and letting your mods enforce it will drive your traffic. A mod should never wonder whether the site owner will suddenly turn capricious and undo their work, unless there is a rational discussion.
Consider the idea of making the whole thing AMP only. Consider the idea of people being able to amp for any amount, like a tip jar. (Thanks Brasky) A non zero sum, even if it's a penny, will do a lot to mitigate trolls.
Happy users are content generators. Happy users participate. Scared and offended users lurk and rarely chime in.
Make your users happy and they will reward you with traffic.
All of this.
It wouldn't be hard to merge (rearrange) the whole fucking board, I could do it in a few hours.
Removing the idea of anything goes in the General board would probably help.
Also, having an ACTUAL discussion of it on the radio wouldn't hurt. Not with us, just you and Mark and Dale, and Oz if he felt like it. However you see fit. But, a WHOLE segment. The pro's and con's of the concept, the whole nine yards.
You have to admit, anarchy doesn't work here. This place NEEDS to be moderated. Sometimes, people HAVE to be kicked the fuck out. Its just a fact of online life that everyone seems to grasp, except for you (no offense).
Look how reasonable people are on Facebook.
That doesn't mean people have to use their real names here, they can have a handle. But for gods sake, let us manage the fucking boards. If people insist on being assholes, they are restricted from General, or something.
The bottom line is, we don't know the instant fix. But we do know what doesn't work. Advertise a cool forum and people will come. Make the Porny board, the fag board (with no fag bashing allowed), the discussion board, etc etc.
A "share" button for Facebook would probably help.
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I didn't see a problem...
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I didn't see a problem...
Hey dude, lemme explain something (and not being a cock).
Do you realize what newspapers and TV shows, and radio shows are actually for?
They are to sell ads. The entertainment content is the desired material to attract eyeballs to the advertisements.
Thats why the superbowl commercials cost so much, and why they show douche commercials during Oprah.
These guys not only want to spread their message, but they want to generate traffic in order to sell the ads for more money. Thats part of showbiz.
Traffic here is quickly going down the toilet.
Part of the reason (in my opinion) is because people are so fucking obnoxious towards each other.
Back in "the day", not so long ago, there was SHITLOADS of people here. I think Facebook is partly responsible for that, too. Some people hang out there exclusively. But here, they can cut loose a little, and say stuff they wouldn't want their momma to see.
However, I think people go too far with that. There is a middle-ground that should satisfy most people. This is not /b/ - but it's not kindergarden, either. We should be able to satisfy the vast majority if we use some brains.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have something interesting to watch...
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always gotta grow - I'm tired of the model
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u15gkXPnC1U&feature=related[/youtube]
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A PROPOSED FORUM REORGANIZATION
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Moderation should be the same as GENERAL (Below) otherwise unchanged.
GENERAL
A conceptual merging of FTL AMPlifiers and General - This area is moderated and mods shall take no shit. Chronic assholery is not allowed. Individual acts of assholery will be tolerated until they become chronic. The moderators should be free to judge the definition of assholery. Mod word should be law unless there is hard evidence of actual abuse.
THE RUBBER ROOM
(Drop the "For trolls") This is an generally unmoderated area minus spam, racism, and threats of violence. Users can patrol their own threads like the hijack free zone. Consider it a combo Rubber room and Hijack free thread. The climate should be basically exactly like the BBS is currently there, where almost anything goes to the extreme end of bad behavior. Constant and chronic personal attacks will be frowned upon and called out, and because of thread ownership anyone can be rid of an asshole shitting on their threads.
THE SHOW
Should be fine the way it is. Moderation should be the same as GENERAL.
LRN.fm section remains unchanged. Moderation should be the same as GENERAL.
Elite section rmains unchanged. Moderation should be the same as GENERAL.
Kill local.freetalklive.com it has been there for five years and has less than 300 posts. Make a stickied thread in GENERAL for that shit.
POSSIBLE ADDITIONS?
GUNS, DRUGS, AND CRAZY SURVIVALIST STUFF
The name sez it all. Preparedness, homeschooling, food canning, crafts, fun with guns, you get the idea.
SERIOUS BUSINESS
A place where people can talk about their personal lives and feelings in some detail without fear of attack. (Heavily moderated like all crazy and shit.)
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No argument.
I think the whole place should have HFZ ownership controls.
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No argument.
I think the whole place should have HFZ ownership controls.
Even better.
(http://iamkoream.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/kim-jong-il-twn.jpg)
Self moderation is best moderation.
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One additional suggestion-
Joy should be allowed a special moderator status called ILSA SHE WOLF OF THE BBS that overrides everyone else. Including Ian.
Giving Joy the mod wand is pretty much the only thing Ian did right in this fiasco.
(http://chattypics.com/download.php?file=JOYSA_puvh1xndic.jpg)
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Fix Joy's pic. Too much shirt - not enough tit.
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Fix Joy's pic. Too much shirt - not enough tit.
I would never presume. Joy has never showed me her boobs so I would assume she wouldn't want me trying to depict them.
We like Joy here at the BBS. She's one of the designated grownups*.
*Meaning that the rest of us have designated her a grownup, not that she has taken on that role.
NOTE - Edited my suggestion list at top of page for changes.
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But also, if you look at statistics and studies of how internet forums work. They get a steady explosion when they first start, then eventually die out until there remains a slowly cycling tight-knit group of core users. Thats where we are now.
I theorize that's because they are rarely moderated with any degree of consistent effort. My mind is still blown by how busy a certain BBS is and it's heavily moderated.
You have to admit, anarchy doesn't work here.
Market anarchy hasn't been tried, i.e. private property rights where you can exclude anyone for any reason.
"You're a troll. You're gone."
"What? Why?"
"Because fuck you."
"But what rule did I break."
"The don't-be-a-dick rule."
"Define dick."
"Someone I don't like. Bye." *click*
What's been tried instead is tragedy of the commons--meticulous rules, lawyering, and general bullshit.
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Many good things.
"Because fuck those guys." is a perfectly acceptable reason in my book, as long as there's a justifiable history backing it up.
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John, (and I'm not kissing up) you're a smart mofo.
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Many good things.
"Because fuck those guys." is a perfectly acceptable reason in my book, as long as there's a justifiable history backing it up.
Thats what we been doon!
Or, trying to do until everybody turns it into the goddamn Warren Commission.
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Additional note -
I have been told by three people in the last couple hours that if the changes I have suggested were enacted they would become more regular BBS users.
One of whom is my wife, conditionally.
If she becomes a regular member because she feels fairly safe from attack, I imagine thousands of posts about all kinds of useful and crafty things, cool Halloween stuff, maybe more guns, all sorts of shit.
She'd be bringing wimmins content that will attract more cool people.
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Shaw, which threads would you keep?
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Additional note -
I have been told by three people in the last couple hours that if the changes I have suggested were enacted they would become more regular BBS users.
One of whom is my wife, conditionally.
If she becomes a regular member because she feels fairly safe from attack, I imagine thousands of posts about all kinds of useful and crafty things, cool Halloween stuff, maybe more guns, all sorts of shit.
She'd be bringing wimmins content that will attract more cool people.
Well, that'd be nice.
In order to accomplish that, the whole segregation-of-content concept is necessary. I doubt Mel would appreciate dirty filthy things in the middle of her knitting thread.
And I can't say as I blame her.
I don't know if I'm just getting old and irritable, or what. But theres a time and place for everything, and this is not the place. If you know where to expect nasty things, you can simply not go there.
It bugs me that I can trust my girls online, but would never invite them here. We joke about boner pills when the commercials come on TV, and they're like EWWW. So, I know they'd be fuckin' traumatized when they scroll onto someone double-fisting a crackhead.
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Shaw, which threads would you keep?
I donno if he saw this, Ian.
I don't think you need to eliminate anything, just merge some shit. Like how the Polling Pit is a child board of General, you put Announcements there. In The Show, you put Local.
Leave HFZ alone.
Rename the Troll board to Party Zone, or something fun. Less moderation happens there.
Nobody gets to write nig.ger anywhere, the filter is still in effect board wide.
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You want to know where your visitors went?
(http://www.hubspot.com/Portals/53/images//facebook-icon.png)
People are moving away from specialized forums for their interaction with the other talking monkeys. People moved away from CB radios, dial up bbs, compuserve etc.
Forum sites are just a dying technology. Tweak and turn all the knobs you want on the forum and then post a new traffic graphic again in a few years. :)
I wouldn't put too much effort in to this iteration bbs. I would look in to the next big thing. I'd think mobile, iphone and android social interaction. Who uses a keyboard and mouse anymore?
Is there an open source forum software out there that has a mobile view? You could dump the existing forum data in to that and the new setup could run dual duty as a forum as well as a mobile "app". Fuck I hate that word, anyway, just drinking and rambling now.
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Mentioned that, twice.
The difference is, your FB is kinda like your actual persona.
Here, you have the luxury of some anonymity. People get fired for being assholes on FB. They can't always talk about being politically active or discuss things at such great length. They can't post pictures or videos in the middle of threads as easily. There are certain things that make this forum more attractive, and exploit certain flaws of FB's design.
Threads here can remain active for months. On FB, that's impossible.
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Shaw, which threads would you keep?
<<<Was eating dinner
EDITED - Here's some thread titles.
Last movie you've watched
Free Thought Association Game
What Video Games Are You Currently playing?
Excellent breasts.
Chaos is the only sensible answer. [TSFW] Cthulhu is awake!!!
Music
Jokes
Drama in the Free State
Yet Another "What are you reading?" Thread
What are you drinking tonight?
I can give you links if you want. All of these threads have at least ten thousand views and many hundreds of posts.
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Really John, the CA thread? Are you trolling me?
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Really John, the CA thread? Are you trolling me?
Uh, nope. I was just thinking of threads that had a lot of volume.
That thread is pretty much a shitstorm though? To be honest I almost never looked at it.
So mebbe nix that one? *Shrug*
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Additional note -
I have been told by three people in the last couple hours that if the changes I have suggested were enacted they would become more regular BBS users.
One of whom is my wife, conditionally.
If she becomes a regular member because she feels fairly safe from attack, I imagine thousands of posts about all kinds of useful and crafty things, cool Halloween stuff, maybe more guns, all sorts of shit.
She'd be bringing wimmins content that will attract more cool people.
I like. Both the breakdown of threads and level of moderation, and having your wife hang out on the board, too.
For a long time I was only checking in once or twice a week at most, often without posting. More women would bring back civility - if only in some threads. And... more conversations and fun stuff free of flame wars will probably bring in more women.
The difference is, your FB is kinda like your actual persona.
Here, you have the luxury of some anonymity. People get fired for being assholes on FB. They can't always talk about being politically active or discuss things at such great length.
Absolutely. There are discussions I can get into here and thoughts I can express which will NEVER be on FB. Two of my children are on FB, my mom is on FB, and all the people I have to deal with on a daily basis are on FB. My good friends hear me spout some of my less common (in bible-belt suburbia, at least) opinions on camping trips and at smaller BBQs, but there is no way in hell I want to get into any real discussions with most of my neighbors and fellow PTA board members.
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My main beef with FB and G+ are that conversations don't seem to last long. I like that with a message board a conversation can go for months or years and people can drop in and out with their comments, and you occasionally get fresh blood with something constructive or fun to say.
Facebook conversations drop away too quickly.
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Yep. Facebook blows for real communication - where you don't want your posts to be missed by those who should see them. Nothing beats a good forum.
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As per Brasky's suggestion, the whole BBS is now a HFZ. Only shithead and "no reporting posts" user classes can not delete any reply to threads they post. All regular and AMP users now have total control over their threads, board-wide.
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I think Green Bastard is right but if you're looking to save the BBS and hope for the best then do as Shaw suggests.
Consistency in applying the rules kinda makes sense. If nigger can't be typed then redneck, chink, kike, faggot, etc. shouldn't be typed either. Not bringing this up to troll, but its a reason I haven't been visiting as much.. makes the BBS feel like just another PC zone on the net where double standards are enjoyed. The main draw of this BBS was that it had a certain amount of "free-for-all", usually in good spirit. That's been gone for some time now.
I also hadn't thought much of it, but now that it's been mentioned I do recall the hosts referring to the BBS as "full of trolls".. a place where the "kids can play in their sandbox", etc. Can't imagine many new listeners would be eager to sign up after hearing that.
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Shaw,
Would you like to propose a new TOS?
Here's our current one:
http://bbs.freetalklive.com/announcements/read-this-first-frequently-asked-questions/msg79935/#msg79935
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Shaw,
Would you like to propose a new TOS?
Here's our current one:
http://bbs.freetalklive.com/announcements/read-this-first-frequently-asked-questions/msg79935/#msg79935
Sure, gimmie a few minutes to put something together.
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The threads from HFZ have been moved to General and HFZ has been deleted, as the whole BBS is now an HFZ.
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Who's the fuckin asshole who unplugged nigger from the filter?
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I think Green Bastard is right but if you're looking to save the BBS and hope for the best then do as Shaw suggests.
Consistency in applying the rules kinda makes sense. If nigger can't be typed then redneck, chink, kike, faggot, etc. shouldn't be typed either. Not bringing this up to troll, but its a reason I haven't been visiting as much.. makes the BBS feel like just another PC zone on the net where double standards are enjoyed. The main draw of this BBS was that it had a certain amount of "free-for-all", usually in good spirit. That's been gone for some time now.
I also hadn't thought much of it, but now that it's been mentioned I do recall the hosts referring to the BBS as "full of trolls".. a place where the "kids can play in their sandbox", etc. Can't imagine many new listeners would be eager to sign up after hearing that.
Look, dickface..
You can't put every word into the filter. Nobody abuses Jap. Nobody abuses "kike". When was the last time you saw anybody actually say kike?
You are part of the problem. You are fucking obsessed, and it doesn't speak well of you for spending so much time thinking about it.
You spent a LONG time trying to shake off the racist stereotype that was (I thought) unjustly applied to you. Now I realize (about a month ago) I was wrong for defending you. You've got a massive load of shit in your head, fella.
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I think Green Bastard is right but if you're looking to save the BBS and hope for the best then do as Shaw suggests.
Consistency in applying the rules kinda makes sense. If nigger can't be typed then redneck, chink, kike, faggot, etc. shouldn't be typed either. Not bringing this up to troll, but its a reason I haven't been visiting as much.. makes the BBS feel like just another PC zone on the net where double standards are enjoyed. The main draw of this BBS was that it had a certain amount of "free-for-all", usually in good spirit. That's been gone for some time now.
I also hadn't thought much of it, but now that it's been mentioned I do recall the hosts referring to the BBS as "full of trolls".. a place where the "kids can play in their sandbox", etc. Can't imagine many new listeners would be eager to sign up after hearing that.
Look, dickface..
You can't put every word into the filter. Nobody abuses Jap. Nobody abuses "kike". When was the last time you saw anybody actually say kike?
You are part of the problem. You are fucking obsessed, and it doesn't speak well of you for spending so much time thinking about it.
You spent a LONG time trying to shake off the racist stereotype that was (I thought) unjustly applied to you. Now I realize (about a month ago) I was wrong for defending you. You've got a massive load of shit in your head, fella.
I be working on a new TOS that covers all of this.
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You want to know where your visitors went?
(http://www.hubspot.com/Portals/53/images//facebook-icon.png)
I disagree. I posted here for a few years, and I just got sick of the static. I regularly post and read other forums. I'd love to come back to the BBS. I'm friends with several members on Facebook but, as it's been expressed elsewhere in the thread, I like the conversation-like nature of the threads and the capacity to keep them going for long periods of time.
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Good.
I'm rapidly losing my patience over this bullshit.
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You want to know where your visitors went?
(http://www.hubspot.com/Portals/53/images//facebook-icon.png)
I disagree. I posted here for a few years, and I just got sick of the static. I regularly post and read other forums. I'd love to come back to the BBS. I'm friends with several members on Facebook but, as it's been expressed elsewhere in the thread, I like the conversation-like nature of the threads and the capacity to keep them going for long periods of time.
Hey!
I still get a lulz out of your username.
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As per Brasky's suggestion, the whole BBS is now a HFZ. Only shithead and "no reporting posts" user classes can not delete any reply to threads they post. All regular and AMP users now have total control over their threads, board-wide.
Um, just wanted to point out that the whole BBS has (always? at least for awhile) been HFZ. If you own a thread you can switch it from say, General, to the HiJack Free Zone, delete whatever you want, then switch it back with nobody the wiser.
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As per Brasky's suggestion, the whole BBS is now a HFZ. Only shithead and "no reporting posts" user classes can not delete any reply to threads they post. All regular and AMP users now have total control over their threads, board-wide.
Um, just wanted to point out that the whole BBS has (always? at least for awhile) been HFZ. If you own a thread you can switch it from say, General, to the HiJack Free Zone, delete whatever you want, then switch it back with nobody the wiser.
For AMPs. People that aren't super-familiar with the way the settings work may not be completely adept at all the functions.
Now it should have a "delete" button on every post for all users who created the thread..
I'm not sure that it did, because I have different buttons than you, as does the Admin. There is a whole bunch of buttons and settings. We're not always sure what you can or cannot see or do. We tend to get lost in these control options, and if you recall, we just went through a rebuild.
So, you may indeed have those controls. Its kinda hard to keep all that shit square.
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Happy users are content generators. Happy users participate. Scared and offended users lurk and rarely chime in.
Literally why I stopped posting, it became too much of a shithole.
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shithole.
An interesting choice of words. I used the exact same word with Mark earlier today. Must be a Meechigan thing.
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As per Brasky's suggestion, the whole BBS is now a HFZ. Only shithead and "no reporting posts" user classes can not delete any reply to threads they post. All regular and AMP users now have total control over their threads, board-wide.
Um, just wanted to point out that the whole BBS has (always? at least for awhile) been HFZ. If you own a thread you can switch it from say, General, to the HiJack Free Zone, delete whatever you want, then switch it back with nobody the wiser.
For AMPs. People that aren't super-familiar with the way the settings work may not be completely adept at all the functions.
Now it should have a "delete" button on every post for all users who created the thread..
I'm not sure that it did, because I have different buttons than you, as does the Admin. There is a whole bunch of buttons and settings. We're not always sure what you can or cannot see or do. We tend to get lost in these control options, and if you recall, we just went through a rebuild.
So, you may indeed have those controls. Its kinda hard to keep all that shit square.
FYI, I'm not an AMP. Should be, will be, but am not. I can do what I said however.
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Shaw,
Would you like to propose a new TOS?
Here's our current one:
http://bbs.freetalklive.com/announcements/read-this-first-frequently-asked-questions/msg79935/#msg79935
NEW TOS PROPOSAL
The BBS has four important features that can help you control unwanted content.
1. You can ignore any users simply by pressing the "ignore" button underneath their name & info.
2. You can set your preferences to not show avatar or signature pictures.
3. You can set your "Look and Layout" preferences to block all images.
4. Users have the ability to delete unwanted posts from threads that they have created.
By clicking the "Enter" link below, you are agreeing to the following:
A. I am a mature sovereign individual or I have parental consent to view the material contained within this site.
B. I understand that I am solely responsible for the content of my posted messages. Furthermore, I agree to indemnify and hold harmless the owners of this forum, any related websites to this forum, its staff, and its subsidiaries.
C. I am discouraged from uploading, posting, discussing, requesting, or linking to, anything that may draw the attention of violent people who presume to have the power to punish the owner of this site in retaliation. Determination of such violations is left to the discretion of the moderators.
D. Chronic expressions of direct abuse toward another user will not be tolerated. Users are encouraged to debate, argue, and even insult, but repeated harassment will not be tolerated. The determination of the word “Chronic” shall left to the discretion of the moderators.
E. Flamebait and trolling should generally be kept to a minimum. It is a minor offense overall but many violators compounded make the message board a generally more stupid place to be. Egregious and chronic violations will eventually be met with warnings and possible bans. The determination of the words “Egregious” and “Chronic” shall left to the discretion of the moderators.
F. Chronic expressions of direct abuse toward a collective ethnic group of people will not be tolerated. If you collectivize a group of people by their genotype and make directly negative comments about said group you are treading thin ice. The determination of the words “Ethnic group” and “Chronic” shall be left to the discretion of the moderators.
G. Submitting false reports or otherwise abusing the report system will result in a ban of indeterminate length.
H. Attempts to bypass a temporary ban will result in a permanent ban.
I. No spamming or flooding of any kind. If you wish to advertise a product or service it will be generally expected that you have made over 100 posts on the board as a regular participant. Please limit your threads on the subject of your product or service to less than five. No duplicate threads. Further desire to advertise on Free Talk Live will require contact with a marketing associate.
J. The quality of posts is extremely important to this community. Contributors are encouraged to provide high-quality images, videos, and informative comments. Try to think before you post.
It is impossible for the staff or the owners of this forum to confirm the validity of posts. We do not actively monitor the posted messages, and as such, are not responsible for the content contained within. We do not warrant the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of any information presented. The posted messages express the views of the author, and not necessarily the views of this forum, its staff, its subsidiaries, or this forum's owner. Anyone who feels that a posted message is objectionable is encouraged to notify an administrator or moderator of this forum. The staff and the owner of this forum reserve the right to remove objectionable content if they determine that removal is necessary. This is a manual process, however and they may not be able to remove or edit particular messages immediately. This policy applies to member profile information as well.
Also note that with each post, your IP address is recorded, in the event that you need to be banned from this forum or your ISP contacted. This will only happen in the event of a major violation of this agreement.
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Finally, your account may be deleted after 365 days of inactivity.
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I would like to be able to shithead someone again. Sometimes people don't make it to the level of needing to be removed, but they still suck. I think banning the use of the n-word is silly, but apparently it causes issues somehow.
I really think controlling the people that suck is the key. I honestly don't think deleting the whole thing matters. We're not here to shield users from the real world. They choose what to click on, and we just need to feel free to tag things not safe for work and change titles to reflect updated content.
I really miss just having conversation here.
Also John Shaw's wife is awesome.
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All of that seems perfectly reasonable to me.
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I think Green Bastard is right but if you're looking to save the BBS and hope for the best then do as Shaw suggests.
Consistency in applying the rules kinda makes sense. If nigger can't be typed then redneck, chink, kike, faggot, etc. shouldn't be typed either. Not bringing this up to troll, but its a reason I haven't been visiting as much.. makes the BBS feel like just another PC zone on the net where double standards are enjoyed. The main draw of this BBS was that it had a certain amount of "free-for-all", usually in good spirit. That's been gone for some time now.
I also hadn't thought much of it, but now that it's been mentioned I do recall the hosts referring to the BBS as "full of trolls".. a place where the "kids can play in their sandbox", etc. Can't imagine many new listeners would be eager to sign up after hearing that.
Look, dickface..
You can't put every word into the filter. Nobody abuses Jap. Nobody abuses "kike". When was the last time you saw anybody actually say kike?
You are part of the problem. You are fucking obsessed, and it doesn't speak well of you for spending so much time thinking about it.
You spent a LONG time trying to shake off the racist stereotype that was (I thought) unjustly applied to you. Now I realize (about a month ago) I was wrong for defending you. You've got a massive load of shit in your head, fella.
Will dickface be in the new word filter?
It's merely an ant in my pant, Brasky. Made worse so by champions of a fair creed such as yourself who are outraged by one misstep and humored by another. Consistency counts for a lot where sanity dwells.
I did spend awhile as the resident racist here. The tag went away not because it was shaken off but because it didn't stick to begin with. I don't hate based on ethnicity, skin color or whatever. Very simple really.
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I would like to be able to shithead someone again. Sometimes people don't make it to the level of needing to be removed, but they still suck. I think banning the use of the n-word is silly, but apparently it causes issues somehow.
I really think controlling the people that suck is the key. I honestly don't think deleting the whole thing matters. We're not here to shield users from the real world. They choose what to click on, and we just need to feel free to tag things not safe for work and change titles to reflect updated content.
I really miss just having conversation here.
Also John Shaw's wife is awesome.
Ezactly.
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Will dickface be in the new word filter?
It's merely an ant in my pant, Brasky. Made worse so by champions of a fair creed such as yourself who are outraged by one misstep and humored by another. Consistency counts for a lot where sanity dwells.
I did spend awhile as the resident racist here. The tag went away not because it was shaken off but because it didn't stick to begin with. I don't hate based on ethnicity, skin color or whatever. Very simple really.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs_by_ethnicity
http://gyral.blackshell.com/names.html
Use any of 'em in a way that eventually pisses off a mod you'll start to get warnings. Keep fucking around and you may earn a ban.
No more debate.
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I mean, if you are using one of those words with malicious intent and you really are a racist, you suck.
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I mean, if you are using one of those words with malicious intent and you really are a racist, you suck.
I wholeheartedly second this.
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The reason nigger is filtered is because that's what most assholes use.
I honestly can't believe people don't understand this.
If you take away the most frequented toy, it's unlikely most people will ply their bullshit.
If people have other penchants, you can apply it to that.
Over time, people learn if they are especially abusive to fags or chinks, and it reads "I'm an asshole" when they review their posts, they will GO THE FUCK AWAY. AND I WON'T HAVE TO BAN THEM.
SMARTEN THE FUCK UP.
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Will dickface be in the new word filter?
It's merely an ant in my pant, Brasky. Made worse so by champions of a fair creed such as yourself who are outraged by one misstep and humored by another. Consistency counts for a lot where sanity dwells.
I did spend awhile as the resident racist here. The tag went away not because it was shaken off but because it didn't stick to begin with. I don't hate based on ethnicity, skin color or whatever. Very simple really.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs_by_ethnicity
http://gyral.blackshell.com/names.html
Use any of 'em in a way that eventually pisses off a mod you'll start to get warnings. Keep fucking around and you may earn a ban.
No more debate.
Brother- I hope that's a general warning and not personally directed towards me. Check the archives on any of my posts and you'll see zero instances of me using slurs in any malicious sense. Rarely even in a humorous way.
..ironic yeah?
Now that the policy is evenly applied I'm finding myself perked right up. I'm going to ingest an aperitif.
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I like the new TOS. Implemented. I have sent emails to all forum members announcing the changed TOS.
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I like the new TOS. Implemented. I have sent emails to all forum members announcing the changed TOS.
Rock on.
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I think Facebook is partly responsible for that, too. Some people hang out there exclusively.
I'd venture to say thats 95% of it right there......maybe even more.
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I would like to be able to shithead someone again. Sometimes people don't make it to the level of needing to be removed, but they still suck. I think banning the use of the n-word is silly, but apparently it causes issues somehow.
Pretty sure global mods can shithead - can't they?
Shitheads are not allowed in "serious stuff".
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Pretty sure global mods can shithead - can't they?
Shitheads are not allowed in "serious stuff".
I think you took it away after one of the times we shitheaded Libman.
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The reason nigger is filtered is because that's what most assholes use.
I honestly can't believe people don't understand this.
If you take away the most frequented toy, it's unlikely most people will ply their bullshit.
If people have other penchants, you can apply it to that.
Over time, people learn if they are especially abusive to fags or chinks, and it reads "I'm an asshole" when they review their posts, they will GO THE FUCK AWAY. AND I WON'T HAVE TO BAN THEM.
SMARTEN THE FUCK UP.
It isn't that I don't understand. It makes sense to me. I just think it's stupid that people need other people to sensor them. It's sad.
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Pretty sure global mods can shithead - can't they?
Shitheads are not allowed in "serious stuff".
I think you took it away after one of the times we shitheaded Libman.
Check now. Username > Account Related Settings > Primary Membergroup:
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Check now. Username > Account Related Settings > Primary Membergroup:
Not yet. Just poked into quickmike's account
Will keep poking
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Hey, while I have everyones attention here, I've just gotta bring up the following:
Is there a way to stay logged into this forum? I have to continuously log in throughout the day, and half the time I get a page that says I am not authorized to use the page, and then I have to clear my cookies/cache to be able to log in. I know at least one other person has had this problem. How do I "stay logged in forever"?
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Huh?? Whaaaa???
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Huh?? Whaaaa???
Wasn't gonna shithead you son. Was just poking into your account because it was on the page.
Checking to see if it was there as an option.
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Pretty sure global mods can shithead - can't they?
Shitheads are not allowed in "serious stuff".
I think you took it away after one of the times we shitheaded Libman.
Check now. Username > Account Related Settings > Primary Membergroup:
Thanks.
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Huh?? Whaaaa???
Wasn't gonna shithead you son. Was just poking into your account because it was on the page.
Checking to see if it was there as an option.
Oh, well, ok then. Plz just dont draw a clown nose on my picture or anything.
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Check now. Username > Account Related Settings > Primary Membergroup:
Not yet. Just poked into quickmike's account
Will keep poking
Ok, try again.
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I have moved the bug-reporting forums into their own collapsible section of the main page.
I have added two new forums per Shaw's suggestion.
Other forums have been made sub-forums.
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Check now. Username > Account Related Settings > Primary Membergroup:
Not yet. Just poked into quickmike's account
Will keep poking
Ok, try again.
There it is. *High Five*
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Further suggestions? :idea:
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Moved out Photoshops and Polling Pit to the main page.
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Further suggestions? :idea:
Ya, I'm putting my filter back.
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Further suggestions? :idea:
Seems like a pretty good reboot, mang.
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Promoted. Feel free to share on FB: http://bit.ly/p4g4my
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C. I am discouraged from uploading, posting, discussing, requesting, or linking to, anything that may draw the attention of violent people who presume to have the power to punish the owner of this site in retaliation. Determination of such violations is left to the discretion of the moderators.
I don't understand what this one means. Posting Keene cop and judge stories can qualify.
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C. I am discouraged from uploading, posting, discussing, requesting, or linking to, anything that may draw the attention of violent people who presume to have the power to punish the owner of this site in retaliation. Determination of such violations is left to the discretion of the moderators.
I don't understand what this one means. Posting Keene cop and judge stories can qualify.
Why? Are any of those people black, juvenile or retarded?
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C. I am discouraged from uploading, posting, discussing, requesting, or linking to, anything that may draw the attention of violent people who presume to have the power to punish the owner of this site in retaliation. Determination of such violations is left to the discretion of the moderators.
I don't understand what this one means. Posting Keene cop and judge stories can qualify.
Why? Are any of those people black, juvenile or retarded?
OH EXPLOITABLE
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Don't make me ban you.
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Don't make me ban you.
Huh? You musta not got the joke.
Went like so -
"Keene cop and judge stories can qualify."
Followed by:
"Are any of those people black, juvenile or retarded?"
Followed by me suggesting that Black or not, Keene cops and judges are both juvenile and retarded.
Get it get it?
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Moved out Photoshops and Polling Pit to the main page.
We had a good thread one time in the photoshop forum making our liberty/ancap flags.
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My main beef with FB and G+ are that conversations don't seem to last long. I like that with a message board a conversation can go for months or years and people can drop in and out with their comments, and you occasionally get fresh blood with something constructive or fun to say.
Facebook conversations drop away too quickly.
Most modern social media is all about fitting the context of a smart phone, which means small words, small sentences and more timely discussion. That means no lengthy posts, no continuance of old threads, and definitely no back-and-forth conversation. It's all about PUSH content rather than PULL.
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I also hadn't thought much of it, but now that it's been mentioned I do recall the hosts referring to the BBS as "full of trolls".. a place where the "kids can play in their sandbox", etc. Can't imagine many new listeners would be eager to sign up after hearing that.
Or experiencing it first thing on arrival. I mean, it has been that way quite a lot.
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Trust the mods to do their job. Trust them or don't bring them on. ....
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Creating a friendlier environment for content generators by disallowing chronic abusive behavior and letting your mods enforce it will drive your traffic.
+1
(http://michaelwdean.com/stuff/InternetTrolls.jpg)
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I've been suggesting a clean-up of this board for years... Maybe I will even start posting here again.
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I've been suggesting a clean-up of this board for years... Maybe I will even start posting here again.
See what you people have done?
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I've been suggesting a clean-up of this board for years... Maybe I will even start posting here again.
See what you people have done?
I lol'd.