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Re: BBS FAIL
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2011, 05:46:50 PM »

A PROPOSED FORUM REORGANIZATION

ANNOUNCEMENTS
Moderation should be the same as GENERAL (Below) otherwise unchanged.

GENERAL
A conceptual merging of FTL AMPlifiers and General - This area is moderated and mods shall take no shit. Chronic assholery is not allowed. Individual acts of assholery will be tolerated until they become chronic. The moderators should be free to judge the definition of assholery. Mod word should be law unless there is hard evidence of actual abuse.

THE RUBBER ROOM
(Drop the "For trolls") This is an generally unmoderated area minus spam, racism, and threats of violence. Users can patrol their own threads like the hijack free zone. Consider it a combo Rubber room and Hijack free thread. The climate should be basically exactly like the BBS is currently there, where almost anything goes to the extreme end of bad behavior. Constant and chronic personal attacks will be frowned upon and called out, and because of thread ownership anyone can be rid of an asshole shitting on their threads.

THE SHOW
Should be fine the way it is. Moderation should be the same as GENERAL.

LRN.fm section remains unchanged. Moderation should be the same as GENERAL.

Elite section rmains unchanged. Moderation should be the same as GENERAL.

Kill local.freetalklive.com it has been there for five years and has less than 300 posts. Make a stickied thread in GENERAL for that shit.

POSSIBLE ADDITIONS?
GUNS, DRUGS, AND CRAZY SURVIVALIST STUFF
The name sez it all. Preparedness, homeschooling, food canning, crafts, fun with guns, you get the idea.

SERIOUS BUSINESS
A place where people can talk about their personal lives and feelings in some detail without fear of attack. (Heavily moderated like all crazy and shit.)

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Bill Brasky

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Re: BBS FAIL
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2011, 05:53:00 PM »

No argument. 

I think the whole place should have HFZ ownership controls. 
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Re: BBS FAIL
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2011, 05:55:09 PM »

No argument. 

I think the whole place should have HFZ ownership controls. 

Even better.



Self moderation is best moderation.
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Re: BBS FAIL
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2011, 05:58:34 PM »

One additional suggestion-

Joy should be allowed a special moderator status called ILSA SHE WOLF OF THE BBS that overrides everyone else. Including Ian.

Giving Joy the mod wand is pretty much the only thing Ian did right in this fiasco.

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Re: BBS FAIL
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2011, 06:20:58 PM »

Fix Joy's pic.  Too much shirt - not enough tit.
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Re: BBS FAIL
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2011, 06:23:40 PM »

Fix Joy's pic.  Too much shirt - not enough tit.

I would never presume. Joy has never showed me her boobs so I would assume she wouldn't want me trying to depict them.

We like Joy here at the BBS. She's one of the designated grownups*.




*Meaning that the rest of us have designated her a grownup, not that she has taken on that role.


NOTE - Edited my suggestion list at top of page for changes.
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Re: BBS FAIL
« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2011, 07:23:01 PM »

But also, if you look at statistics and studies of how internet forums work. They get a steady explosion when they first start, then eventually die out until there remains a slowly cycling tight-knit group of core users.  Thats where we are now.

I theorize that's because they are rarely moderated with any degree of consistent effort. My mind is still blown by how busy a certain BBS is and it's heavily moderated.

You have to admit, anarchy doesn't work here.

Market anarchy hasn't been tried, i.e. private property rights where you can exclude anyone for any reason.

"You're a troll. You're gone."
"What? Why?"
"Because fuck you."
"But what rule did I break."
"The don't-be-a-dick rule."
"Define dick."
"Someone I don't like. Bye." *click*

What's been tried instead is tragedy of the commons--meticulous rules, lawyering, and general bullshit.

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Re: BBS FAIL
« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2011, 07:29:13 PM »

Many good things.

"Because fuck those guys." is a perfectly acceptable reason in my book, as long as there's a justifiable history backing it up.
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Re: BBS FAIL
« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2011, 07:30:53 PM »

John, (and I'm not kissing up) you're a smart mofo.
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Re: BBS FAIL
« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2011, 07:41:51 PM »

Many good things.

"Because fuck those guys." is a perfectly acceptable reason in my book, as long as there's a justifiable history backing it up.

Thats what we been doon!

Or, trying to do until everybody turns it into the goddamn Warren Commission. 

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Re: BBS FAIL
« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2011, 08:06:30 PM »

Additional note -

I have been told by three people in the last couple hours that if the changes I have suggested were enacted they would become more regular BBS users.

One of whom is my wife, conditionally.

If she becomes a regular member because she feels fairly safe from attack, I imagine thousands of posts about all kinds of useful and crafty things, cool Halloween stuff, maybe more guns, all sorts of shit.

She'd be bringing wimmins content that will attract more cool people.
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Re: BBS FAIL
« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2011, 08:33:23 PM »

Shaw, which threads would you keep?
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Re: BBS FAIL
« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2011, 08:35:35 PM »

Additional note -

I have been told by three people in the last couple hours that if the changes I have suggested were enacted they would become more regular BBS users.

One of whom is my wife, conditionally.

If she becomes a regular member because she feels fairly safe from attack, I imagine thousands of posts about all kinds of useful and crafty things, cool Halloween stuff, maybe more guns, all sorts of shit.

She'd be bringing wimmins content that will attract more cool people.

Well, that'd be nice. 

In order to accomplish that, the whole segregation-of-content concept is necessary.  I doubt Mel would appreciate dirty filthy things in the middle of her knitting thread. 

And I can't say as I blame her. 

I don't know if I'm just getting old and irritable, or what.  But theres a time and place for everything, and this is not the place.  If you know where to expect nasty things, you can simply not go there. 

It bugs me that I can trust my girls online, but would never invite them here.  We joke about boner pills when the commercials come on TV, and they're like EWWW.  So, I know they'd be fuckin' traumatized when they scroll onto someone double-fisting a crackhead. 

 
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Re: BBS FAIL
« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2011, 08:52:16 PM »

Shaw, which threads would you keep?

I donno if he saw this, Ian.



I don't think you need to eliminate anything, just merge some shit.  Like how the Polling Pit is a child board of General, you put Announcements there.  In The Show, you put Local. 

Leave HFZ alone. 

Rename the Troll board to Party Zone, or something fun.  Less moderation happens there. 

Nobody gets to write nig.ger anywhere, the filter is still in effect board wide. 



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Re: BBS FAIL
« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2011, 09:09:17 PM »

You want to know where your visitors went?



People are moving away from specialized forums for their interaction with the other talking monkeys. People moved away from CB radios, dial up bbs, compuserve etc.

Forum sites are just a dying technology. Tweak and turn all the knobs you want on the forum and then post a new traffic graphic again in a few years. :)

I wouldn't put too much effort in to this iteration bbs. I would look in to the next big thing. I'd think mobile, iphone and android social interaction. Who uses a keyboard and mouse anymore?

Is there an open source forum software out there that has a mobile view? You could dump the existing forum data in to that and the new setup could run dual duty as a forum as well as a mobile "app". Fuck I hate that word, anyway, just drinking and rambling now.
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