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Free Talk Live => General => Topic started by: cavalier973 on November 19, 2009, 03:51:52 AM
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http://reason.tv/video/show/whiteboard
(Especially the part where the UPS guy catches on fire ;) )
From what management has told us, the labor laws that govern FedEx were designed for railroad companies as a way to keep one station from going on strike and disrupting a national transporation network (national security, jabber jabber...). Right now, for FedEx to go union, the whole company has to go union at the same time. Individual stations cannot unionize. UPS wants the labor laws it works under to be applied to FedEx, even though it's a trucking company, and FedEx is an airline company (I get the airline employee's discount on travel from the passenger airlines even though I drive a van all day).
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Hey I just spotted that on youtube yesterday :) cool.
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I'm never using UPS again.
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I used to work at UPS and they force everyone to unionize, and some still got crappy pay and benefits, nor did the union do anything to protect the workers. they got fired just as easily as everyone else, if the pacage delivery guys were too slow delivering packages 1 day they could get demoted easily and get in trouble if they get in a accident even if its not their fault .
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I used to work at UPS and they force everyone to unionize, and some still got crappy pay and benefits, nor did the union do anything to protect the workers. they got fired just as easily as everyone else, if the pacage delivery guys were too slow delivering packages 1 day they could get demoted easily and get in trouble if they get in a accident even if its not their fault .
I have never had a manager at FedEx scream in my face or mistreat me in any way. There is a very definite list of things that you can be fired for ("Falsification" being the chief reason). I did receive disciplinary action for having too many late deliveries one day, though; and three of these actions within a twelve-month span can result in termination.
The benefits certainly aren't as good as when I started 5 years ago. Back then, individual health insurance was totally paid for by the company. Family plans ran to around $90 a month. Up until 9/11, employees could jump seat to anywhere FedEx flew (I got hired too late to enjoy that benefit).
Accidents are a ticky thing; you can't really get fired, but they kick up a fuss in management. A lady ran a stop sign one day and hit me; the accident review board (or whatever they're called) came to the conclusion that it was my fault; I should have waited at the stop sign to see if she were going to come to a complete stop before I proceeded through the intersection. I had to go to courier re-training class for a week. Which reminds me: if a FedEx guy honks at you, it's probably because he has a courier trainer riding with him. It's part of the training to honk at people to make sure they see you.
Still, it's not a bad company to work for; I've worked at worse jobs.
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UPS is so much cheaper though :(
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UPS is so much cheaper though :(
But they can be annoying to deal with: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89frRi8GgGA
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UPS is so much cheaper though :(
how about DHL?
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Random thought: Once like 10,000+ Free Staters move to New Hampshire, some of them may decide to start one or several competing shop-by-proxy service companies. How that would work is: when shopping online, you don't give the retailer your real name, address, and CC#, you give the billing / shipping address of the proxy service and your prearranged unique "purchase code". FedEx / UPS / DHL / etc might still be involved, but only in delivering the package to a local distribution hub in NH, which is of course much cheaper for them, and whichever company would do the best job passing those savings to the buyer would obviously get the business. You can then pick the package up yourself, or have it delivered for an extra fee. The main benefit of all this would be total anonymity and the ability to make all your purchases in a commodity of your choice (ex. gold), but a side-benefit is that it would allow the proxy company to act like a retailer and negotiate referral deals and bulk discounts with the sellers and the shippers. The local package delivery side of the business can also be integrated with selling of all the other things rich lazy Free Staters would pay gold to have brought to their door (legal or otherwise). ;)
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The benefits certainly aren't as good as when I started 5 years ago.
This is true with most jobs. And, as government ramps up inflation, it's likely to get worse.
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Random thought: Once like 10,000+ Free Staters move to New Hampshire, some of them may decide to start one or several competing shop-by-proxy service companies. How that would work is: when shopping online, you don't give the retailer your real name, address, and CC#, you give the billing / shipping address of the proxy service and your prearranged unique "purchase code". FedEx / UPS / DHL / etc might still be involved, but only in delivering the package to a local distribution hub in NH, which is of course much cheaper for them, and whichever company would do the best job passing those savings to the buyer would obviously get the business. You can then pick the package up yourself, or have it delivered for an extra fee. The main benefit of all this would be total anonymity and the ability to make all your purchases in a commodity of your choice (ex. gold), but a side-benefit is that it would allow the proxy company to act like a retailer and negotiate referral deals and bulk discounts with the sellers and the shippers. The local package delivery side of the business can also be integrated with selling of all the other things rich lazy Free Staters would pay gold to have brought to their door (legal or otherwise). ;)
To do this, the final customer would list the local delivery company's name as the recipient, and put "In Care Of" their own name with the account number they set up under the local delivery service. Then make the delivery a "Hold at Location" package, and the delivery company will pick up the packages at the FedEx station, check the local service's account number to determine the address of the final customer.
The Greyhound Bus Company does something like this; we deliver giant boxes to the Bus Depot, and then they deliver it to local residents/businesses. I don't really know what's in the boxes (possibly luggage; sometimes the boxes are heavy and sometimes not), and I don't know if they deliver the boxes as is, or if they break them open and deliver a lot of smaller boxes...
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This is true with most jobs. And, as government ramps up inflation, it's likely to get worse.
What are you talking about? Inflation makes us rich! I saw the article on Zimbabwe; the guy was able to get a hold of a Zimbabwe $100 trillion bill. The guy was a multi-trillionaire!!
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To do this, the final customer would list the local delivery company's name as the recipient, and put "In Care Of" their own name with the account number they set up under the local delivery service. Then make the delivery a "Hold at Location" package, and the delivery company will pick up the packages at the FedEx station, check the local service's account number to determine the address of the final customer.
Exactly, and the address doesn't have to contain the final recipient's real name.
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UPS is so much cheaper though :(
how about DHL?
DHL does not ship domestic ground anymore. Therefore it's not useful to most folks anymore. It's a shame because my work (Luxottica) used to use DHL as our primary carrier, and shipments were always on time, and so was our payroll. With FedEx, as a corporation, we found that drivers were breaking open our product shipments and stealing merchandise entirely too often for our liking. Now we use UPS, but I still preferred DHL.
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With FedEx, as a corporation, we found that drivers were breaking open our product shipments and stealing merchandise entirely too often for our liking.
You're such a whiny baby
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With FedEx, as a corporation, we found that drivers were breaking open our product shipments and stealing merchandise entirely too often for our liking.
You're such a whiny baby
Dude, I work at the store level. That's what was told to us as by corporate. Also, it was obvious when the boxes would arrive re-taped to stores. Never happened to me. I had the coolest FedEx driver ever. His name was Jorge. He was nice.
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With routes and packages being tracked the way they are, how the heck can drivers possibly expect to get away with doing that, especially more than once?! Petty theft like that simply doesn't belong in the 21st century! (Well, at the non-governmental level at least...)
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With routes and packages being tracked the way they are, how the heck can drivers possibly expect to get away with doing that, especially more than once?! Petty theft like that simply doesn't belong in the 21st century! (Well, at the non-governmental level at least...)
Not sure. That's what I always wondered. Obviously it wasn't all of them, but it was enough to make a giant corporation switch. The stupid thing is that they used FedEx when I first started, switched to DHL, DHL stopped doing domestic ground service, so then we switched BACK to FedEx, even after this problem. Finally to UPS. Now, having said that...when I need to personally ship, I use FedEx and have no problems at all.
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This is true with most jobs. And, as government ramps up inflation, it's likely to get worse.
What are you talking about? Inflation makes us rich! I saw the article on Zimbabwe; the guy was able to get a hold of a Zimbabwe $100 trillion bill. The guy was a multi-trillionaire!!
That's part of the scam: Tax the rich--and then inflate the currency until everyone is "rich."
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Dude, I work at the store level. That's what was told to us as by corporate. Also, it was obvious when the boxes would arrive re-taped to stores. Never happened to me. I had the coolest FedEx driver ever. His name was Jorge. He was nice.
When I worked at the Hub, we would find opened boxes of candy and empty candy wrappers in the freight containers. Usually, though, we treat the packages with the respect it deserves:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alSQpinagp0
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Dude, I work at the store level. That's what was told to us as by corporate. Also, it was obvious when the boxes would arrive re-taped to stores. Never happened to me. I had the coolest FedEx driver ever. His name was Jorge. He was nice.
When I worked at the Hub, we would find opened boxes of candy and empty candy wrappers in the freight containers. Usually, though, we treat the packages with the respect it deserves:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alSQpinagp0
That's funny. :lol: