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Re: Arguing against violence
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2009, 09:53:48 AM »

If you're friends with a cop,

Poison his donuts.  :x



One dead cop doesn't make a difference you would need a thousand poisoned donuts.

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The must be one really fat cop.
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Re: Arguing against violence
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2009, 11:18:34 AM »

There are around 800,000 cops in the U.S. making $55-100K a year plus benefits.  But if we could poison just a few hundred, the remaining cops will get the message.  Some may quit, some may ask for greater compensation to stay on the job, etc.  You defeat tyranny by increasing its liabilities and decreasing its assets.

You could start a campaign to buy up all the donut shops and poison all the donuts.
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Re: Arguing against violence
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2009, 12:22:13 PM »

A fellow freedom-loving friend of mine told me yesterday that he want's violence.

The context was that I was explaining to him how I am absolutely anti-violence and I don't believe it will achieve freedom. "I don't want violence," I said. "I do." He replied.

I just continued explaining my position as a 'borderline pacifist', being against the initiation of force, and explaining that using violence against government will only cause greater retaliation.

I would like to further this argument with him so that he may change his mind and see that the way to peace - is peace. So I ask if you will share your arguments with me so I can bring them to him.

This is very important. This friend of mine... is a police officer.

Government is bound by its lies. It's easy to outsmart somebody who is intentionally wrong. Not so easy to outgun them.

You need to make the government look like the incontrovertible badguy, so that even somebody that disagrees with you would hesitate before trying to support the government's behavior. And do everything you can to make it high profile if it's worth it. If it's not, keep at it until they do something that does become high profile, and then cite previous incidents as demonstrating what an ass the state has been to poor little old you who's just doing their civic duty and being active in politics or some other such nonsense.
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Re: Arguing against violence
« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2009, 05:13:12 PM »

You could start a campaign to buy up all the donut shops and poison all the donuts.

This would fit well with the new thread I've started on the FSP forum about organized buying of land to form libertarian-owned enclaves that can then split off from existing towns, but instead of poisoning the donuts we could simply refuse to do business with police from other towns in favor of local libertarian-owned private defense agencies.
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