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Are "libertines" dangerous?
« on: February 10, 2014, 05:26:29 PM »

Libertarians Are Not Libertines  I kind of thought the argument turned out to be against homosexuality. I don't think just being gay would make anybody a bad parent, so I strongly disagree on that. He brings a good point though, there has to be a line somewhere in how whacky behaviour the liberty movement should except for it to thrive. Where would a reasonable libertarian draw the line?
 I kind of have my little crusade against people who need to dominate their lover. I decided that if someone wants to submit to the will of someone in private it is not my problem, but slapping or yelling at your sub in public and it is. Also someone imprisoning another, even concentually, and I have a problem. Especially if the "guardian" won't let anyone talk to the charge.
 I happen to know that these are hard subjects to discuss, but anyone who wishes to do so is welcome to chime in. I would like easy answers and I don't have any.

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Re: Are "libertines" dangerous?
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2014, 06:46:47 PM »

Oh, you bet I'm dangerous! hehe.

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Re: Are "libertines" dangerous?
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2014, 07:14:00 PM »

I take it this guy would not agree with me about physical and emotional health depending on a balanced indulgence in the eight crucial sins.

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Re: Are "libertines" dangerous?
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2014, 09:39:43 PM »

Pot, polyamory... many libertarians are libertines

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Re: Are "libertines" dangerous?
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2014, 02:55:04 AM »

The key word is "thrive". Alturnative lifestyles don't produce a lot of children who grow up into successful adults, do they? I have read that lifestylers are more stable mentally but I don't know their track record on parenthood. Penn and Teller showed a lesbian couple who had happy children, but they seemed almost vanilla except for the penis lacking thing.

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Re: Are "libertines" dangerous?
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2014, 03:07:57 AM »

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/della-wolf-is-b-c-s-1st-child-with-3-parents-on-birth-certificate-1.2526584 Liz Zish, my alturnative facebook friend, who likes to be dominated, so she cools my hatered for pussy assed "tops" a little- shared this on facebook. I am pretty sure we will probably come to the conclusion that judgemental people suck.

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Re: Are "libertines" dangerous?
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2014, 04:45:24 AM »

no i dont think so... people have authrity to do anything they want. and being a gay is not a bad thing.
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Re: Are "libertines" dangerous?
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2014, 03:27:24 PM »

You inspired a topic for last night's show!



Download the episode
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Re: Are "libertines" dangerous?
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2014, 05:55:37 PM »

Well goody. The download link on this page doesn't work though. I linked this thread from that video on youtube so it would be nice if it did.

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Re: Are "libertines" dangerous?
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2014, 06:19:42 PM »

Well goody. The download link on this page doesn't work though. I linked this thread from that video on youtube so it would be nice if it did.

The link is to this thread where the discussion is happening and the video is at the top. Are you saying you wish it linked directly to the video?

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Re: Are "libertines" dangerous?
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2014, 06:39:00 PM »

I linked to this thread from the video. It is currently on the top comment. When I tried to direct download on your post it didn't work. 

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Re: Are "libertines" dangerous?
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2014, 09:47:40 PM »

I think I know what you're talking about now and I've made it link directly to the download instead of going to the Flaming Freedom post with the download.

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Re: Are "libertines" dangerous?
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2014, 11:00:59 AM »

I would generally avoid exposing children to the Dom/Sub thing.

Not because it's morally wrong, but because it's fetishizing the initiation of force, which would really fuck up a kid's perspective if someone's trying to raise them without violence.

"Say Billy, you know how we don't hurt one another and that's real important? I'd like you to meet mummy and daddy's friends Spikytitsling Whipsalot and Nutcracker McTakesthepeg, they beat on each other for fun and then fuck."

Again, not making rules for human behavior here, just thinking about who I'd hang with if I had kids around.

"Mummy and daddy are all about the NAP but hang out with people who beat on each other for fun." Is a far more complicated topic to have to explain than the 'rubbing peepees together' conversation.
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Re: Are "libertines" dangerous?
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2014, 11:41:21 AM »

Well said. Do you think my view on not really wanting to see it is reasonable? I don't want to see somebody slapping their spouse around. Concentual or not.

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Re: Are "libertines" dangerous?
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2014, 11:55:25 AM »

Well said. Do you think my view on not really wanting to see it is reasonable? I don't want to see somebody slapping their spouse around. Concentual or not.

I probably wouldn't hang out with people who do that. I wouldn't say I have the right not to have to see it.

If I ran a bidness I would probably tell spanky people who came there to knock that shit off, unless it was a BDSM club or some shit.

"Listen, you slap each other around and people here in libertopia might misunderstand what's going on and fuck you up for not being NAPpy, and you can't really blame them. And if some white knight blows another hole through my ceiling I'm gonna make you pay for it, or gank the repair costs out of your wallet after someone plugs you."
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