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http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/04/21/fbi.domestic.terror.suspect/index.html

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The FBI for the first time has placed an animal rights activist on the bureau's "Most Wanted Terrorists" list.

 The FBI announced Tuesday the addition of Daniel Andreas San Diego to the list, hoping a burst of international publicity associated with the move will help investigators find him after six years on the run.

San Diego, 31, may appear to be out of place on a terrorist list with familiar names like al Qaeda's Osama bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri and Adam Yahiye Gadahn. The "strict vegan," according to the FBI, is charged with bombing two corporate offices in California in 2003. The blasts caused extensive property damage but no deaths.

Vegans eat no meat or any other food containing animal products.

Authorities allege San Diego bombed facilities in Emeryville and Pleasanton, California, because he believed the Chiron and Shaklee Corporations had ties to animal-testing labs.

The sophisticated homemade bombs had ammonium nitrate brand explosives and relied on "kitchen timer style mechanical timer devices," according to an FBI affidavit.

After both bombings, e-mails from a group called "The Revolutionary Cells-Liberation Brigade" claimed responsibility for the acts.

Photographs of San Diego, who grew up in suburban San Francisco, California, show a well-groomed, bespectacled man.

But the computer network specialist also sports several elaborate tattoos. According to an artist's rendering of the body art, San Diego has one in the center of his chest of a burning hillside and the words "It only takes a spark" in a typewriter-style font.

An abdominal tattoo shows burning and collapsing buildings, while his back features a leafless tree rising from a road above buildings that are burning but still standing, the FBI says.

Last year, agents pursued reports that San Diego was hiding in Costa Rica. They also received a report he was spotted in rural southern Virginia.
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Re: Animal rights activist on FBI's 'Most Wanted Terrorists' list
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2009, 02:51:13 PM »

I wonder what the difference is between a vegan and a strict vegan.
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Re: Animal rights activist on FBI's 'Most Wanted Terrorists' list
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2009, 03:40:27 PM »

For once the government is doing something useful.  The only problem here is monopoly of law enforcement.  In a free society, there would be multiple organizations competing to catch the motherfucker, to (confirming that he's guilty) force him to pay restitution and show that he has reformed.

Also, the FBI should put them SPCA horse thieves on that list as well!  :x


I wonder what the difference is between a vegan and a strict vegan.

Most people who claim to be vegans make occasional exceptions, especially when eating out.  Interpretations of vegan requirements can get very strict, possibly including that the kitchen where the food is cooked should be entirely free of meat products (lest a microscopic quantity of them should transfer), farm where the food is grown must not keep any livestock (possibly including bees for pollination), etc.  I guess the "strict" vegans go farther than most.

All this is very irrational, IMHO, but gastronomy is subjective.  There is nothing wrong with doing irrational things in your own life that make you happy.  The lives of others, however, are a different matter.  Failure to respect human rights (including their ownership of animals, which are absolute property) is definitely a crime.
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Re: Animal rights activist on FBI's 'Most Wanted Terrorists' list
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2009, 04:10:11 PM »

I wonder if the guy lives in buildings, or if he's too busy burning them down. He clearly has it out for structures.
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Re: Animal rights activist on FBI's 'Most Wanted Terrorists' list
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2009, 06:32:53 PM »

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The sophisticated homemade bombs had ammonium nitrate brand explosives and relied on "kitchen timer style mechanical timer devices," according to an FBI affidavit.
Is there a new definition of "sophisticated" I don't know about?

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Re: Animal rights activist on FBI's 'Most Wanted Terrorists' list
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2009, 07:00:07 PM »

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The sophisticated homemade bombs had ammonium nitrate brand explosives and relied on "kitchen timer style mechanical timer devices," according to an FBI affidavit.
Is there a new definition of "sophisticated" I don't know about?


they should have just used:

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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=supercalafragalisticexpealadotious

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Re: Animal rights activist on FBI's 'Most Wanted Terrorists' list
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2009, 07:01:51 PM »


Also, the FBI should put them SPCA horse thieves on that list as well!  :x

Failure to respect human rights (including their ownership of animals, which are absolute property) is definitely a crime.


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Re: Animal rights activist on FBI's 'Most Wanted Terrorists' list
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2009, 07:22:40 PM »

Is there a new definition of "sophisticated" I don't know about?

Uncle Sam Wants You!

...to think all bombs are sophisticated...  :roll:

(Unless you work for them of course.)
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Re: Animal rights activist on FBI's 'Most Wanted Terrorists' list
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2009, 09:14:45 PM »

Failure to respect human rights (including their ownership of animals, which are absolute property) is definitely a crime.
That's fine, but most of the "eco-terrorists" are not terrorists. They are saboteurs.

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   1. A person who intentionally causes the destruction of property in order to hinder the efforts of his/her enemy.
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Re: Animal rights activist on FBI's 'Most Wanted Terrorists' list
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2009, 09:23:39 PM »

Failure to respect human rights (including their ownership of animals, which are absolute property) is definitely a crime.
That's fine, but most of the "eco-terrorists" are not terrorists. They are saboteurs.

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saboteur (plural saboteurs)

   1. A person who intentionally causes the destruction of property in order to hinder the efforts of his/her enemy.

While not all saboteurs are terrorists, I do think that causing large explosions in public areas is pretty easily equated with terrorism.
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Re: Animal rights activist on FBI's 'Most Wanted Terrorists' list
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2009, 09:26:09 PM »

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/tersandiego_da.htm

Scars and Marks:     San Diego has the following tattoos: a round image of burning hillsides in the center of his chest with the words "It only takes a spark" printed in a semicircle below; burning and collapsing buildings on the sides of his abdomen and back; and a single leafless tree rising from a road in the center of his lower back. These tattoos may have been significantly altered or covered with new tattoos.

Remarks:    San Diego has ties to animal rights extremist groups. He is known to follow a vegan diet, eating no meat or food containing animal products. In the past, he has worked as a computer network specialist and with the operating system LINUX. San Diego wears eyeglasses, is skilled at sailing, and has traveled internationally. He is known to possess a handgun.

CAUTION

Daniel Andreas San Diego is wanted for his alleged involvement in the bombing of two office buildings in the San Francisco, California, area. On August 28, 2003, two bombs exploded approximately one hour apart at the Chiron Corporation in Emeryville. Then, on September 26, 2003, one bomb strapped with nails exploded at the Shaklee Corporation in Pleasanton. San Diego was indicted in the United States District Court, Northern District of California, in July of 2004.

The FBI is offering a reward of up to $250,000 for information leading directly to the arrest of Daniel Andreas San Diego.

SHOULD BE CONSIDERED ARMED AND DANGEROUS

IF YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION CONCERNING THIS PERSON, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR LOCAL FBI OFFICE OR THE NEAREST AMERICAN EMBASSY OR CONSULATE.
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Re: Animal rights activist on FBI's 'Most Wanted Terrorists' list
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2009, 09:35:16 PM »


I'll keep a sharp eye out for him, Sarge!

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Re: Animal rights activist on FBI's 'Most Wanted Terrorists' list
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2009, 09:38:04 PM »

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Re: Animal rights activist on FBI's 'Most Wanted Terrorists' list
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2009, 09:40:24 PM »

That's fine, but most of the "eco-terrorists" are not terrorists. They are saboteurs.

I think of sabotage as hindering a specific effort directly, traditionally it meant getting back at your boss for paying you a fair (market-based) wage by shutting down his production line, one wooden shoe at a time.  This race traitor isn't organizing an effort to blow up all human institutions that utilize animals, the highest goal he can achieve is scare some people into abandoning use of animals by making it too costly / too risky - the very definition of terrorism!

Plus who's to say irrational people like that can effectively limit themselves to just destruction of property, and not commit murder?  And besides, the two are inter-related: by diminishing capital you also diminish life.  Human beings used to dwell in caves and rarely live past 30.  It is our material advances that allow us to live longer, and provide hope of living much longer still.  You hear slogans like "crystal meth kills", but in reality what it does is it lowers your life expectancy - theft is no different.  Furthermore, there are few human activities essential to advancing biology and medicine that do not utilize animals in some way. 

PETA is probably already responsible for a greater loss of human life than the Nazis!  (Who, by the way, were also big fans of animal rights.)

Anyone who defends "animal rights", no matter if their violence is through bombs or through government regulations, is an enemy of the human civilization!  It is our moral imperative to stop them!
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Re: Animal rights activist on FBI's 'Most Wanted Terrorists' list
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2009, 10:00:56 PM »

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Plus who's to say irrational people like that can effectively limit themselves to just destruction of property, and not commit murder?  
Have they killed anyone yet?
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