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Re: America's Obsession with Underage Sex
« Reply #30 on: August 17, 2007, 08:13:00 AM »

As far as being underage goes, I looked pretty much like I do now when I was twelve.  I was thinner, but the proportions were the same.  I had a period by nine years old, and boobs by ten.  I lost my virginity at twelve. 

Shaving:  I like to be as hair-free as possible.  I will not, however shave my legs and my nether regions on a daily basis unless someone is seeing them. 

Everybody likes something different.  What ever floats your boat. 

Uhhhhhhh no one wants to hear your life story. Just get to the sex part.

And nobody wants to hear a Goddamn thing from you, so shut the fuck up. 
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« Reply #31 on: August 17, 2007, 11:19:05 AM »

I'm not trying to argue about the sanitary or practical reasons for shaving, obviously there are many.  Quite honestly, it doesn't matter to me what reasons *men* shave their face.  What I'm more interested in is why *women* find the lack of facial hair *on men* generally more attractive than beards.  And I don't buy the whole "it's cleaner" crap, because beards are not dirty, not in an age of a bath-a-day (unlike the 19th century, where bathes were less frequent).

At any rate, the whole beard/no beard thing is not the crux of my proposition, there are plenty of other factors that I discussed.  Don't get me wrong though, I think you're right, there are reasons from the male point of view to shave.  But that doesn't address the issue of attraction from women to shaved men, unless they're attracted to practicalness.    And of course, bearded men have no problem picking up women, so it's certainly not a requirement to be shaved to be attractive.

Women could be attracted to clean-shaven men for so many reasons, though, other than that it makes them look younger (which is even debatable).

As for your other factors, supermodels (and this really only happens with supermodels) need to be thin-- that is the only criteria for supermodels.  The small breasts and small buttocks are just side effects of their being so fatless, as those two regions are essentially fat reservoirs.  It's because they're anorexic, not because America wants underage sex (most Americans never see supermodels anyway-- they're reserved for fashion magazines).  Also, their bodies aren't even completely child-like.  One trait looked for in models is long legs, which is decidedly an adult female characteristic.

The existence of "barely legal" porn also does not prove widespread pedophilia.  First off, many people who look at barely legal porn may do so because "barely legal" girls are actually their peer group, which aids with the sexual fantasy.  Underage boys, and men ages 18-22 might prefer that age group of women.  Don't bring up Japan's obsession with school girls-- the country has a messed up sexual culture, and we're talking about America.

As for the teacher sex-- do you realize how many schools there are in the United States?  Even if there were a new case every day, that would be 365 incidents, which is hardly endemic.  And trust me, if a teacher is having sex with a student, eeeeeveryone's going to know (unless the child is REALLY young, like less than 12 years old, which is extraordinarily rare).  If you can't go around high school without everyone knowing that whatsherface went down on the whole basketball team, you better believe something as big as a teacher having sex with a minor is going to get out.  As for why teachers might have sex with their students, this is complicated psychology but I'm confident it has nothing to do with American society as a whole being sexually attracted to children.  One possibility is that teaching is the sort of job that would attract people who are pedophiles, so the sample is already biased.  Also, being around kids all day and developing a sort of love for them leaves some teachers confused about how to react to these feelings, especially if the teacher is crazy.

It's well documented that men are attracted to youth, but this is young as in late teens, early twenties (prime breeding age) and not young as in low teens or preteen.  It is rare that older men are attracted to people that young.  I've seen some evolutionary speculation that males developed a tendency to inseminate as many breeding-capable females as they could.  Females, on the other hand, developed a tendency to lock a male down to help her while she's pregnant, etc.  I don't know how large the age disparity was between your friends and their sexual partners, but I'm guessing it wasn't more than five or six years, which to me is quite inappropriate, but to others is borderline.  I'm also guessing the underage girls involved were 16- or 17-years-old and not 13- or 14-years-old.

I just really don't get how you concluded that Americans all want underage sex.
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Re: America's Obsession with Underage Sex
« Reply #32 on: August 17, 2007, 11:24:30 AM »

I always thought that women liked smooth faced men because the expressiveness of the face is impeded when there is a lot of facial hair. The whole women and communication thing gets messed up when a man's face is heavily covered.

This is total speculation.

There are exceptions to this, of course. Some men were born to express themselves from behind a beard.





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« Reply #33 on: August 17, 2007, 11:29:43 AM »

I always thought that women liked smooth faced men because the expressiveness of the face is impeded when there is a lot of facial hair. The whole women and communication thing gets messed up when a man's face is heavily covered.

This is total speculation.

There are exceptions to this, of course. Some men were born to express themselves from behind a beard.




Lets not forget...

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« Reply #34 on: August 17, 2007, 02:46:08 PM »

Whatever's in that can must be pretty fucked up. 

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« Reply #35 on: August 17, 2007, 03:35:17 PM »

Teenage girls used to be middle-aged when we only lived into our 30s, so it is likely the instinct of attraction to teens is still heavily with us.  If they are capable of having babies, it should not be surprising that many men (probably far more than would admit it) are physically attracted to them. 

Considering the dumbing down of America via the government school system it's amazing that adults would want to spend any time whatsoever with American teenagers.  If teenagers weren't so mentally childlike, perhaps the social stigma attached to attraction to them would not exist.

Ditto.
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« Reply #36 on: August 17, 2007, 03:37:16 PM »

Whatever's in that can must be pretty fucked up. 



Bear jerky cured in moonshine, maybe.
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« Reply #37 on: August 17, 2007, 04:41:45 PM »

Whatever's in that can must be pretty fucked up. 



It's a can of whoop ass.
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« Reply #38 on: August 17, 2007, 06:38:49 PM »

I'm not trying to argue about the sanitary or practical reasons for shaving, obviously there are many.  Quite honestly, it doesn't matter to me what reasons *men* shave their face.  What I'm more interested in is why *women* find the lack of facial hair *on men* generally more attractive than beards.  And I don't buy the whole "it's cleaner" crap, because beards are not dirty, not in an age of a bath-a-day (unlike the 19th century, where bathes were less frequent).

At any rate, the whole beard/no beard thing is not the crux of my proposition, there are plenty of other factors that I discussed.  Don't get me wrong though, I think you're right, there are reasons from the male point of view to shave.  But that doesn't address the issue of attraction from women to shaved men, unless they're attracted to practicalness.    And of course, bearded men have no problem picking up women, so it's certainly not a requirement to be shaved to be attractive.

Women could be attracted to clean-shaven men for so many reasons, though, other than that it makes them look younger (which is even debatable).

As for your other factors, supermodels (and this really only happens with supermodels) need to be thin-- that is the only criteria for supermodels.  The small breasts and small buttocks are just side effects of their being so fatless, as those two regions are essentially fat reservoirs.  It's because they're anorexic, not because America wants underage sex (most Americans never see supermodels anyway-- they're reserved for fashion magazines).  Also, their bodies aren't even completely child-like.  One trait looked for in models is long legs, which is decidedly an adult female characteristic.

The existence of "barely legal" porn also does not prove widespread pedophilia.  First off, many people who look at barely legal porn may do so because "barely legal" girls are actually their peer group, which aids with the sexual fantasy.  Underage boys, and men ages 18-22 might prefer that age group of women.  Don't bring up Japan's obsession with school girls-- the country has a messed up sexual culture, and we're talking about America.

As for the teacher sex-- do you realize how many schools there are in the United States?  Even if there were a new case every day, that would be 365 incidents, which is hardly endemic.  And trust me, if a teacher is having sex with a student, eeeeeveryone's going to know (unless the child is REALLY young, like less than 12 years old, which is extraordinarily rare).  If you can't go around high school without everyone knowing that whatsherface went down on the whole basketball team, you better believe something as big as a teacher having sex with a minor is going to get out.  As for why teachers might have sex with their students, this is complicated psychology but I'm confident it has nothing to do with American society as a whole being sexually attracted to children.  One possibility is that teaching is the sort of job that would attract people who are pedophiles, so the sample is already biased.  Also, being around kids all day and developing a sort of love for them leaves some teachers confused about how to react to these feelings, especially if the teacher is crazy.

It's well documented that men are attracted to youth, but this is young as in late teens, early twenties (prime breeding age) and not young as in low teens or preteen.  It is rare that older men are attracted to people that young.  I've seen some evolutionary speculation that males developed a tendency to inseminate as many breeding-capable females as they could.  Females, on the other hand, developed a tendency to lock a male down to help her while she's pregnant, etc.  I don't know how large the age disparity was between your friends and their sexual partners, but I'm guessing it wasn't more than five or six years, which to me is quite inappropriate, but to others is borderline.  I'm also guessing the underage girls involved were 16- or 17-years-old and not 13- or 14-years-old.

I just really don't get how you concluded that Americans all want underage sex.

I didn't conclude anything, I said it was my hypothesis/theory.  On top of that, the theory isn't that adults want underage sex (I'll admit my title was misleading, but it got a hell of a lot of people to click on it), simply that they're attracted to attributes that, until the recent past (that being the last few thousand years), would have been only found in children, which may indicate some kind of hidden evolutionary urge to have sex with people who are well under the age of 18.  I'll be the first to admit that the points in my OP were circumstantial at best, but to simply wipe away said evidence is to turn a complete blind eye to the entire sexual culture in America. 

FWIW, I think you're wrong about long legs being an attribute of adult females: it's actually young females who have disproportionately long legs compared to adults (due to narrower hips). 

Also, I picked up a copy of Barely Legal (the magazine) a while back, and trust me, the target market of that magazine was NOT young males.  It was the creepiest text in any porno mag I've ever seen, clearly aimed at old men.  From Wikipedia:

Quote
These profiles tend to pander to the readers' fantasies by portraying the models as somewhat naive and sexually inexperienced, but curious and eager to start satisfying their sexual appetites, especially with the older men who make up the main demographic of the magazine, now that they have reached the age of consent.

I mean seriously, the magazine I read actually had (fictional) stories about implied-underage girls losing their virginity to old men.  Maybe that's just that one particular magazine, but no way in hell was that magazine meant for 18-22 year olds.

As for the teacher-student thing: I disagree.  If you look how long these relationships go on, and how they're discovered, it's really hard to make the claim that these things get out every time they happen.  I'll agree with you: it's certainly not common.  But I do think it might be a symptom of a larger issue.

Anyway this whole issue comes down to opinion, and one things for certain is that it's extremely unlikely that I'm 100% correct.  However, to me, when I combine all of the little details, life stories and experiences, etc, into one overall picture of human sexuality, it appears (once again: to me) that some of the many details we analyze when determining if someone is attractive are traits found only in children.  Certainly not all: large breasts, strong upper bodies (in men) and so on.  But, the parts that are child-like cause me to wonder if we're wired to start being attracted to the opposite sex even when they're at a young age.  I mean, when you were 12 you probably had sexual thoughts about your classmates and whatnot.  So what's changed?  You were attracted to 11 year olds then, so did you're brain cleans itself between then and now?  I don't think it does.
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Re: America's Obsession with Underage Sex
« Reply #39 on: August 17, 2007, 07:38:07 PM »

Hahaha. 

It's black powder.  And a coke spoon.

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« Reply #40 on: August 17, 2007, 11:47:41 PM »

I'm not trying to argue about the sanitary or practical reasons for shaving, obviously there are many.  Quite honestly, it doesn't matter to me what reasons *men* shave their face.  What I'm more interested in is why *women* find the lack of facial hair *on men* generally more attractive than beards.  And I don't buy the whole "it's cleaner" crap, because beards are not dirty, not in an age of a bath-a-day (unlike the 19th century, where bathes were less frequent).

At any rate, the whole beard/no beard thing is not the crux of my proposition, there are plenty of other factors that I discussed.  Don't get me wrong though, I think you're right, there are reasons from the male point of view to shave.  But that doesn't address the issue of attraction from women to shaved men, unless they're attracted to practicalness.    And of course, bearded men have no problem picking up women, so it's certainly not a requirement to be shaved to be attractive.

Women could be attracted to clean-shaven men for so many reasons, though, other than that it makes them look younger (which is even debatable).

As for your other factors, supermodels (and this really only happens with supermodels) need to be thin-- that is the only criteria for supermodels.  The small breasts and small buttocks are just side effects of their being so fatless, as those two regions are essentially fat reservoirs.  It's because they're anorexic, not because America wants underage sex (most Americans never see supermodels anyway-- they're reserved for fashion magazines).  Also, their bodies aren't even completely child-like.  One trait looked for in models is long legs, which is decidedly an adult female characteristic.

The existence of "barely legal" porn also does not prove widespread pedophilia.  First off, many people who look at barely legal porn may do so because "barely legal" girls are actually their peer group, which aids with the sexual fantasy.  Underage boys, and men ages 18-22 might prefer that age group of women.  Don't bring up Japan's obsession with school girls-- the country has a messed up sexual culture, and we're talking about America.

As for the teacher sex-- do you realize how many schools there are in the United States?  Even if there were a new case every day, that would be 365 incidents, which is hardly endemic.  And trust me, if a teacher is having sex with a student, eeeeeveryone's going to know (unless the child is REALLY young, like less than 12 years old, which is extraordinarily rare).  If you can't go around high school without everyone knowing that whatsherface went down on the whole basketball team, you better believe something as big as a teacher having sex with a minor is going to get out.  As for why teachers might have sex with their students, this is complicated psychology but I'm confident it has nothing to do with American society as a whole being sexually attracted to children.  One possibility is that teaching is the sort of job that would attract people who are pedophiles, so the sample is already biased.  Also, being around kids all day and developing a sort of love for them leaves some teachers confused about how to react to these feelings, especially if the teacher is crazy.

It's well documented that men are attracted to youth, but this is young as in late teens, early twenties (prime breeding age) and not young as in low teens or preteen.  It is rare that older men are attracted to people that young.  I've seen some evolutionary speculation that males developed a tendency to inseminate as many breeding-capable females as they could.  Females, on the other hand, developed a tendency to lock a male down to help her while she's pregnant, etc.  I don't know how large the age disparity was between your friends and their sexual partners, but I'm guessing it wasn't more than five or six years, which to me is quite inappropriate, but to others is borderline.  I'm also guessing the underage girls involved were 16- or 17-years-old and not 13- or 14-years-old.

I just really don't get how you concluded that Americans all want underage sex.

I didn't conclude anything, I said it was my hypothesis/theory.  On top of that, the theory isn't that adults want underage sex (I'll admit my title was misleading, but it got a hell of a lot of people to click on it), simply that they're attracted to attributes that, until the recent past (that being the last few thousand years), would have been only found in children, which may indicate some kind of hidden evolutionary urge to have sex with people who are well under the age of 18.  I'll be the first to admit that the points in my OP were circumstantial at best, but to simply wipe away said evidence is to turn a complete blind eye to the entire sexual culture in America. 

FWIW, I think you're wrong about long legs being an attribute of adult females: it's actually young females who have disproportionately long legs compared to adults (due to narrower hips). 

Also, I picked up a copy of Barely Legal (the magazine) a while back, and trust me, the target market of that magazine was NOT young males.  It was the creepiest text in any porno mag I've ever seen, clearly aimed at old men.  From Wikipedia:

Quote
These profiles tend to pander to the readers' fantasies by portraying the models as somewhat naive and sexually inexperienced, but curious and eager to start satisfying their sexual appetites, especially with the older men who make up the main demographic of the magazine, now that they have reached the age of consent.

I mean seriously, the magazine I read actually had (fictional) stories about implied-underage girls losing their virginity to old men.  Maybe that's just that one particular magazine, but no way in hell was that magazine meant for 18-22 year olds.

As for the teacher-student thing: I disagree.  If you look how long these relationships go on, and how they're discovered, it's really hard to make the claim that these things get out every time they happen.  I'll agree with you: it's certainly not common.  But I do think it might be a symptom of a larger issue.

Anyway this whole issue comes down to opinion, and one things for certain is that it's extremely unlikely that I'm 100% correct.  However, to me, when I combine all of the little details, life stories and experiences, etc, into one overall picture of human sexuality, it appears (once again: to me) that some of the many details we analyze when determining if someone is attractive are traits found only in children.  Certainly not all: large breasts, strong upper bodies (in men) and so on.  But, the parts that are child-like cause me to wonder if we're wired to start being attracted to the opposite sex even when they're at a young age.  I mean, when you were 12 you probably had sexual thoughts about your classmates and whatnot.  So what's changed?  You were attracted to 11 year olds then, so did you're brain cleans itself between then and now?  I don't think it does.

Do you want to be a psychologist when you grow up??? What you say is too easy.

I already have a lucrative career in a completely different field.

What was the point of your post again?  All I proposed was an idea, requested feedback, attempted to defend my theory in order to flesh out more flaws in it (pointed out by the people who made reasonable replies), repeat. 
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« Reply #41 on: August 18, 2007, 12:09:47 AM »

I guess it depends on the 11 year old.  If she's 5'3 with a C cup and hips that could kill a man, it's not a fair fight.  And yes, I have seen such a thing.  Now, if she looks like 11 year olds used to look, I don't think there's such a widespread issue. 
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« Reply #42 on: August 18, 2007, 12:49:13 AM »

I'm not trying to argue about the sanitary or practical reasons for shaving, obviously there are many.  Quite honestly, it doesn't matter to me what reasons *men* shave their face.  What I'm more interested in is why *women* find the lack of facial hair *on men* generally more attractive than beards.  And I don't buy the whole "it's cleaner" crap, because beards are not dirty, not in an age of a bath-a-day (unlike the 19th century, where bathes were less frequent).

At any rate, the whole beard/no beard thing is not the crux of my proposition, there are plenty of other factors that I discussed.  Don't get me wrong though, I think you're right, there are reasons from the male point of view to shave.  But that doesn't address the issue of attraction from women to shaved men, unless they're attracted to practicalness.    And of course, bearded men have no problem picking up women, so it's certainly not a requirement to be shaved to be attractive.

Women could be attracted to clean-shaven men for so many reasons, though, other than that it makes them look younger (which is even debatable).

As for your other factors, supermodels (and this really only happens with supermodels) need to be thin-- that is the only criteria for supermodels.  The small breasts and small buttocks are just side effects of their being so fatless, as those two regions are essentially fat reservoirs.  It's because they're anorexic, not because America wants underage sex (most Americans never see supermodels anyway-- they're reserved for fashion magazines).  Also, their bodies aren't even completely child-like.  One trait looked for in models is long legs, which is decidedly an adult female characteristic.

The existence of "barely legal" porn also does not prove widespread pedophilia.  First off, many people who look at barely legal porn may do so because "barely legal" girls are actually their peer group, which aids with the sexual fantasy.  Underage boys, and men ages 18-22 might prefer that age group of women.  Don't bring up Japan's obsession with school girls-- the country has a messed up sexual culture, and we're talking about America.

As for the teacher sex-- do you realize how many schools there are in the United States?  Even if there were a new case every day, that would be 365 incidents, which is hardly endemic.  And trust me, if a teacher is having sex with a student, eeeeeveryone's going to know (unless the child is REALLY young, like less than 12 years old, which is extraordinarily rare).  If you can't go around high school without everyone knowing that whatsherface went down on the whole basketball team, you better believe something as big as a teacher having sex with a minor is going to get out.  As for why teachers might have sex with their students, this is complicated psychology but I'm confident it has nothing to do with American society as a whole being sexually attracted to children.  One possibility is that teaching is the sort of job that would attract people who are pedophiles, so the sample is already biased.  Also, being around kids all day and developing a sort of love for them leaves some teachers confused about how to react to these feelings, especially if the teacher is crazy.

It's well documented that men are attracted to youth, but this is young as in late teens, early twenties (prime breeding age) and not young as in low teens or preteen.  It is rare that older men are attracted to people that young.  I've seen some evolutionary speculation that males developed a tendency to inseminate as many breeding-capable females as they could.  Females, on the other hand, developed a tendency to lock a male down to help her while she's pregnant, etc.  I don't know how large the age disparity was between your friends and their sexual partners, but I'm guessing it wasn't more than five or six years, which to me is quite inappropriate, but to others is borderline.  I'm also guessing the underage girls involved were 16- or 17-years-old and not 13- or 14-years-old.

I just really don't get how you concluded that Americans all want underage sex.

I didn't conclude anything, I said it was my hypothesis/theory.  On top of that, the theory isn't that adults want underage sex (I'll admit my title was misleading, but it got a hell of a lot of people to click on it), simply that they're attracted to attributes that, until the recent past (that being the last few thousand years), would have been only found in children, which may indicate some kind of hidden evolutionary urge to have sex with people who are well under the age of 18.  I'll be the first to admit that the points in my OP were circumstantial at best, but to simply wipe away said evidence is to turn a complete blind eye to the entire sexual culture in America. 

FWIW, I think you're wrong about long legs being an attribute of adult females: it's actually young females who have disproportionately long legs compared to adults (due to narrower hips). 

Also, I picked up a copy of Barely Legal (the magazine) a while back, and trust me, the target market of that magazine was NOT young males.  It was the creepiest text in any porno mag I've ever seen, clearly aimed at old men.  From Wikipedia:

Quote
These profiles tend to pander to the readers' fantasies by portraying the models as somewhat naive and sexually inexperienced, but curious and eager to start satisfying their sexual appetites, especially with the older men who make up the main demographic of the magazine, now that they have reached the age of consent.

I mean seriously, the magazine I read actually had (fictional) stories about implied-underage girls losing their virginity to old men.  Maybe that's just that one particular magazine, but no way in hell was that magazine meant for 18-22 year olds.

As for the teacher-student thing: I disagree.  If you look how long these relationships go on, and how they're discovered, it's really hard to make the claim that these things get out every time they happen.  I'll agree with you: it's certainly not common.  But I do think it might be a symptom of a larger issue.

Anyway this whole issue comes down to opinion, and one things for certain is that it's extremely unlikely that I'm 100% correct.  However, to me, when I combine all of the little details, life stories and experiences, etc, into one overall picture of human sexuality, it appears (once again: to me) that some of the many details we analyze when determining if someone is attractive are traits found only in children.  Certainly not all: large breasts, strong upper bodies (in men) and so on.  But, the parts that are child-like cause me to wonder if we're wired to start being attracted to the opposite sex even when they're at a young age.  I mean, when you were 12 you probably had sexual thoughts about your classmates and whatnot.  So what's changed?  You were attracted to 11 year olds then, so did you're brain cleans itself between then and now?  I don't think it does.

Do you want to be a psychologist when you grow up??? What you say is too easy.

I already have a lucrative career in a completely different field.

What was the point of your post again?  All I proposed was an idea, requested feedback, attempted to defend my theory in order to flesh out more flaws in it (pointed out by the people who made reasonable replies), repeat. 

Well then, what do you think about yer theory, after all???? Does it hold?

For one, I think I blurred the line between attraction to underage ( < 18 ) and pre-pubescent too much, as a half of my points were about pre-pubescent and the other half only under 18, and while they may be under the same "theme", if you will, they're not really the same issue, or at least there's no real crossover between the two. 

Some people pointed out some reasonably reasons for attraction to shaven beards (I think the symbolism to being a civilized/sophisticated man is a pretty good reason).  Hair being seen as masculine is another good point (certainly might not have been in the past, but in modern culture it could quite easily be so). 
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Re: America's Obsession with Underage Sex
« Reply #43 on: August 18, 2007, 03:14:00 AM »

I don't know about all of you, but I have an obsession with Richard the III sex! I mean, what a god-awful heap of old hairy cellulite that must be!

Now that's Old Testament sexy!

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« Reply #44 on: August 18, 2007, 03:47:26 AM »

Sorry Richard 3, I just felt like lashing out irrationally in the previous message. Good times; good times.



Anyway, back at the ranch...

Men shave their face, for one, because women's (and men's) skin, in this modern bath-a-day age can be very sensitive to whisker burn. Facial hair also tends to be fad related and it's been shown that people WITH beards are generally perceived to be less trustworthy. Hair, even if it's relatively clean, is also closely correlated to body odor. And in this bath-a-day world, we're not all too accustomed to strong body odors. Additionally, shaving (or trimming) pubic hair uncovers and draws attention to genitalia -- something that is rather natural in mammals regardless of their particular bent on prepubescence. 

Shaving of the public and pit regions started as a way to 'ensure' that prostitutes were free of lice or crabs or something like that -- *not* because of some lice-fronted conspiratorial group wanting to bang underage girls and thus scapegoated common parasites for their nefarious purpose.

It's been suggested by some body of folks In The Know (I can't find my reference, sorry) that the public region shaving = underage fantasy cry is often more an act of projection than any kind of diagnostic tool of a person's particular perversion. (Think about recently caught conservative legislators calling for strict child protection law while they engage in pederasty.) A real determination of the original posters claims would be best determined by a professional and in no way represents The Truth about modern body hair practices.

But I still would like to know ... Does the amount of hair make a difference? If I like SOME hair -- like a landing strip or a triangle or a little tuft of hair -- am I now less of a wanna-be pedophile? At what point is safe? Does there have to be a thick black afro-like padded forest? Is the size of the public hair region important? Is it all about exposing the labia or something that makes it suddenly "proof" that we're all, as a society, seeking underagers? If I like to shave because it makes me happy, am I now suddenly, in your professional opinion, suffering from some Peter Pan syndrome, never wanting to grow up?

Regardless, I'm just tickled pink (pun intended) that I got to work the word 'labia' into a post this evening.


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