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Title: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on January 29, 2010, 12:15:33 AM
I guess the first step is to admit that I have a problem...

This problem often manifests itself through uncontrollable urges to write or say (but never do) very angry and violent things directed at the subject of my hatred, almost invariably the state.  I've always recognized that the verbal or written expression of this anger was irrational, but until now I've justified it under some sort of a poetic license that I've made up in my head, and that I now wish to renounce.

It was wrong of me to talk about killing cops (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=32115.0), blowing up capital cities (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=31530.msg576928#msg576928), etc (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=29490.0), because those statements have negative consequences not only for me but also for people in movements I associate myself with.  Please don't take this confession as an admission that I was wrong about everything I've ever said, only my violent rants, which I now recognize that I need to stop.  Which is not going to be easy, because it's almost like an addiction of sorts - I feel all bottled up before I do it, and I feel better afterwards...  I recognize that I need to find better ways of dealing with my emotions.

I accept the responsibility for the stupid violent things I've said and wrote in the past, and I recognize that it was and is logical for some people to ostracize me as the result.  I will look for ways to correct my problem -- and it is my problem and no one else's -- and I can only hope to earn their forgiveness someday in the future.
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: John Shaw on January 29, 2010, 12:19:04 AM
If this is sincere then awesome on you.

*Tentative High Five*
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: anarchir on January 29, 2010, 01:03:24 AM
Were you busted? Did they make you say this?

Still, good for you if this is sincere. I'd join your little farming network or whatever if I was nearby, but not if it had the threat of violence hanging about.
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on January 29, 2010, 01:27:08 AM
Thank you.  :D

No, I wasn't busted, but ostracism from some core FSP members has been a powerful motivator.  I may theoretically still lose my self-control, as I have countless times in the past, but now I know that there are serious consequences to those failures.  Having to hold in my violent verbal diarrhea all the time is very bad, but having good people ostracize you is much worse...
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: error on January 29, 2010, 01:39:04 AM
I'm only ostracizing you for cycling accounts. :P For the deadly virus, I have Folding@Home. :D
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on January 29, 2010, 01:52:37 AM
Yeah, "cycling accounts" is another example of emotionally-driven irrational behavior that I should cease.  Several times I've done it out of freakish mood swings and desires to "quit the liberty movement" cold turkey...  And several times I've done it just to frustrate the people who'd over-react to it - another "poetic license" that I now wish to renounce.
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: anarchir on January 29, 2010, 01:55:38 AM
Who doesn't vent every now and then? Its healthy. Suggesting fighting is not so much.
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: Low-Eight on January 29, 2010, 02:00:21 AM
good on you libman,  I would say that this is was a very decent thing for you to do.
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on January 29, 2010, 03:20:37 AM
if you're actually part of the FSP, where are you in new hampshire libman?
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on January 29, 2010, 04:51:24 AM
I've had one foot in New Jersey and another in New Hampshire for almost 3 years now, and that will have to continue to be the case a while longer...  I like to keep a very low IRL profile for now, which is a completely separate issue from the one this thread aims to address.
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: Kevin Freeheart on January 29, 2010, 05:26:04 AM
If the price were right, I would have sex with Libman.

This should be a meme.
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on January 29, 2010, 06:26:08 AM
(1)  If I wasn't asexual I'd be heterosexual, but I appreciate the compliment all the same.

(2)  I think most people would even have sex with Reagan's corpse if the price was right.  No matter how unpleasant it would be - a few minutes later you're a billionaire for the rest of your life!

(3)  That's not what this thread is about.
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on January 29, 2010, 08:02:27 AM
For a few billion dollars I'd engage in a necro gangbang.

Can these people track your IRL name to your online names, Libman? Or do you say this stuff to lots of people IRL too?
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on January 29, 2010, 08:52:02 AM
Yes, and it has gotten me in trouble IRL as well.  The problem that it comes off even less convincing IRL, like the loser with Social Anxiety Disorder that I am, it's very obvious that I'm overcompensating.
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: fatcat on January 29, 2010, 09:52:24 AM
I think we've made some real progress here today.

Group hug?
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: error on January 29, 2010, 10:27:06 AM
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2764/4161629227_6a52154cf3.jpg)

OK, get to it.
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on January 29, 2010, 11:17:04 AM
No, I can't do it, because while my previous reference to Reagan's corpse was merely a term of sarcastic superlativism / ironic dismissal, joking about actually digging him up would violate the very pledge I've made in the beginning of this thread.  I should at least try to go 24 hours....
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: error on January 29, 2010, 11:21:31 AM
What, a trillion dollars isn't enough? :)
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on January 29, 2010, 11:23:22 AM
For a tax resister?  :roll:
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: The ghost of a ghost of a ghost on January 29, 2010, 07:00:50 PM
I like libman
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: anarchir on January 30, 2010, 01:35:18 AM
He's ok. Cept for the parts where he discusses various REALLY nasty activities (i.e. improvised explosives, hatred, etc.).
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: blackie on January 30, 2010, 09:46:25 AM
He's ok. Cept for the parts where he discusses various REALLY nasty activities (i.e. improvised explosives, hatred, etc.).
What is wrong with improvised explosives?
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on January 30, 2010, 10:00:21 AM
He's ok. Cept for the parts where he discusses various REALLY nasty activities (i.e. improvised explosives, hatred, etc.).
What is wrong with improvised explosives?

Yeah, sometimes you just want to blow shit up on your property.

Chicken coops, trailers, rusted out cars, etc.
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: blackie on January 30, 2010, 10:10:28 AM
He's ok. Cept for the parts where he discusses various REALLY nasty activities (i.e. improvised explosives, hatred, etc.).
What is wrong with improvised explosives?

Yeah, sometimes you just want to blow shit up on your property.

Chicken coops, trailers, rusted out cars, etc.
Tree stumps, move big rocks or make them into little rocks, "dig" a hole.
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: anarchir on January 30, 2010, 03:44:44 PM
He's ok. Cept for the parts where he discusses various REALLY nasty activities (i.e. improvised explosives, hatred, etc.).
What is wrong with improvised explosives?

Yeah, sometimes you just want to blow shit up on your property.

Chicken coops, trailers, rusted out cars, etc.
Tree stumps, move big rocks or make them into little rocks, "dig" a hole.

Sorry, I like explosives as much as the next guy, especially booby-traps, what I meant was the use of them against persons in ways other that defending one's property/person.
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: error on January 30, 2010, 03:50:49 PM
The problem is that some people (even among those who were ostracizing Libman) believe that defending your own person and property is sometimes morally wrong. I don't believe it's ever morally wrong to defend yourself, though it may be a tactical error to do so in some circumstances.
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on January 30, 2010, 09:05:00 PM
I am now in the process of inventing non-lethal self-defense technologies that will provide a sufficient deterrent against mass arrests without spilling a drop of blood.





;)
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: davann on January 31, 2010, 12:30:52 AM
Good for you Libman. I know I've given you a hard time but I was a little concerned about your rants and any monitoring that might be done by the terrorists.

Please don't let that anger bottle up. You should find a harmless way to release it if you have not already. It can get over whelming.
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: Brooklyn Red Leg on January 31, 2010, 02:28:52 AM
Guess I'm the odd one out again as I never really had that much of a problem with Libman, I just joined in the ribbing him cause...well...I'm an asshole at times.

::shrugs::
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: The ghost of a ghost of a ghost on January 31, 2010, 03:36:26 AM
Did I already say, "I like Libman"?
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: anarchir on January 31, 2010, 11:13:43 AM
I am now in the process of inventing non-lethal self-defense technologies that will provide a sufficient deterrent against mass arrests without spilling a drop of blood.

;)


Much better. Nets are good.
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on January 31, 2010, 12:12:57 PM
Regular nets are too bulky and easy to cut through, while nanowire nets can cause some pretty freakish cuts, especially if the person keeps struggling.  Plus, OK, you get 20 cops in nets before you run out, they just call for backup and get 20 more, not that they'd really have to because they'd have all the time in the world to get out of those nets.

Inflatability is the greatest nanotech advent that I can think of.  When you pufferfish into a huge object that's way bigger than a police cruiser, there's just simply nothing they can do to arrest you - they can't even claim that you've attacked them, you just sucked in a lot of air in several seconds, still slowly enough to walk away from you as you expand.  Those inflatable tubes (aka pufferfish / porcupine suit "pricks") will require up to 100 tons of pressure per square inch to penetrate them, tens of times more than regular firearms can deliver.  They can wait you out, but you can have a backpack full of food and water, and in the meantime you can watch hundreds of cops trying to wrestle their way through your giant inflated pricks and debate if they should try to get a bunch of bulldozers together so they could try to move you that way.  :lol:


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Or, if you forget to press a inflate button (which can be made to be accessible while in handcuffs or even a dental implant) before they get you into the police cruiser / patty wagon, you can always try to do something like this:

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You can of course hurt yourself and others when inflating in a confined space, so we'll probably need various inflation speed settings, separate controls for pricks on different parts of the body, a pressure-sensitive safety feature, and of course emergency release...
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on January 31, 2010, 05:10:34 PM
You're a copy cat:

(http://www.survivaball.com/images/usagechart.jpg)
survivaball.com
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on February 01, 2010, 01:01:22 AM
That is a prank created by a socialist propaganda group (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Yes_Men#New_York_Post_and_SurvivaBall).  One idea uses a lot of very fancy air suction, air filtering, bulletproofing, and inflatable nanotubing technologies.  The other is full of hot air.
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: anarchir on February 01, 2010, 01:07:03 AM
That is a prank created by a socialist propaganda group (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Yes_Men#New_York_Post_and_SurvivaBall).  One idea uses a lot of very fancy air suction, air filtering, bulletproofing, and inflatable nanotubing technologies.  The other is full of hot air.


You've gotta admit the Yesmen are pretty epic for what they've done (infiltrate big corporations and give speeches saying truly crazy things, without the idiots catching on), even if their purpose is skewed.
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on February 01, 2010, 02:32:26 AM
No, I can't think of anything that they've done that has impressed me.  Taking advantage of other people's openmindedness and politeness is not an accomplishment!

They go to trade shows and seminars where a brainstorming "don't prejudge a product idea yet" atmosphere dominates, push some product idea that their brainwashed socialist audience will find ironic and politically sensitive, and then edit and spin the results for their benefit.  Take for example their idea of marketing extracts from human excrement as food - there's no way that is relevant because there's no way it would be cost effective, and there's no way people in the third world would want to buy it unless it was really perfectly safe and economical.  And yet the very fact that they brought this stupid idea up is supposed to be some sort of a daring political statement...  Only the fools are being fooled!
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: anarchir on February 01, 2010, 04:21:24 AM
Yeah but didnt they slip slavery in at one point? And people just nodded their heads...didnt take note.
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on February 01, 2010, 05:19:00 AM
There could have been a language barrier issue, or confusion with more legitimate ideas in the realm of prison labor / indentured servitude, or maybe some clever editing.  Socialists have no integrity when it comes to media spin, none at all...  :x
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on February 07, 2010, 03:26:10 AM
OK, now we have a dedicated thread for bashing Socialist Yes Men Lies Defraud the World (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=32410.0).  :x


And, wow - did I just make it a whole week without vividly describing the horrendous medical techniques I want to use to torture and kill specific political assholes?  I honestly didn't think I'd last that long, I just might go all the way!  :lol:

Goddard still has me on ignore though...
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on February 08, 2010, 09:23:26 PM
There's a billboard of Dubya asking "Miss Me Yet?" (http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/02/bush_miss_me_yet_billboard_is.html), which is a perfect setup for a joke I'm no longer allowed to use (http://www.tvloop.com/married-with-children/show/quotes/top10/3)...  :cry:
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: John Shaw on February 13, 2010, 10:42:09 AM
Bump to expose Libman's hypocrisy.
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on February 13, 2010, 01:48:53 PM
Why, did I excrete a violent rant without being aware of it, like while sleepwalking perhaps?  :?
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: anarchir on February 13, 2010, 02:20:54 PM
Lets just stick with handshakes at this point.
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: Alex Libman on August 10, 2010, 09:52:26 PM
When I screw up, I always admit it, publicly.  So... I've been a very bad boy and slipped one past the goalie on the Gentoo Linux Forum (http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-838775.html).  Completely forgot myself, and it was quoted by others before I could edit.  This marks the second time I've been banned from a site for a legitimate cause, the first one being another violent outburst on Liberty Forest (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=2182) (aka Ron Paul Forums) from some time ago.  Guilty as charged.

In completely unrelated news, the DHC might be shutting down the DC subway (http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local-beat/Metro-Station-Threat-100318254.html)...  ...  ...  LOL?

Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: anarchir on August 10, 2010, 11:51:08 PM
Oh jeez Libman, you know better than that. You've gotta behave yourself.  :?
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: mrapplecastle on August 20, 2010, 07:22:13 PM
Dont be a pussy.
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: Alex Libman on August 20, 2010, 11:22:51 PM
I don't know if you mean that it's my violent rants that make me comparable to the vaginal orifice, or my apologies afterwards, or my inability to keep my emotions consistent 100% of the time.

In other news, I've been unbanned from the Gentoo forum.  I guess being a pussy works, at least some of the time.
Title: Re: Alex Libman was wrong.
Post by: mrapplecastle on August 20, 2010, 11:23:52 PM
Your apologies, obviously.