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Title: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: John Shaw on February 13, 2010, 10:39:11 AM
The dude is a fucking troll. He has been a troll. He is a troll. He will always be a troll.

If you think he's just an odd dude with weird opinions, you have been trolled by Alex Libman.

If you respond to anything he says, in any thread, you have been trolled.

He is not participating on this BBS. He is infecting it. If you respond to him with anything but scorn, you've been suckered.

On an average night, he bumps five threads, all of which he has created and almost no one has responded to. They are often months or years old.

He is a fucking attention whore and a blight.

Do yourself a favor and don't waste your time responding to his stupid, stupid shit.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: anarchir on February 13, 2010, 02:03:15 PM
He's not always trolling, sometimes he engages in a good conversation and debate.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: ForumTroll on February 13, 2010, 02:59:11 PM
His parents must have ignored him as a small child.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: John Shaw on February 13, 2010, 03:20:42 PM
He's not always trolling, sometimes he engages in a good conversation and debate.

You have been successfully trolled.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Corey "Cizzle" Moore on February 13, 2010, 03:25:19 PM
The dude is a fucking troll. He has been a troll. He is a troll. He will always be a troll.

If you think he's just an odd dude with weird opinions, you have been trolled by Alex Libman.

If you respond to anything he says, in any thread, you have been trolled.

He is not participating on this BBS. He is infecting it. If you respond to him with anything but scorn, you've been suckered.

On an average night, he bumps five threads, all of which he has created and almost no one has responded to. They are often months or years old.

He is a fucking attention whore and a blight.

Do yourself a favor and don't waste your time responding to his stupid, stupid shit.

Thank you.

That explains it...
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: John Shaw on February 13, 2010, 03:39:14 PM
His parents must have ignored him as a small child.

Good. Wouldn't you have?
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Riddler on February 13, 2010, 03:53:34 PM
His parents must have ignored him as a small child.

Good. Wouldn't you have?


actually, i would have aborted him in his 72nd week ...at the latest
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: anarchir on February 13, 2010, 04:15:00 PM
He's not always trolling, sometimes he engages in a good conversation and debate.

You have been successfully trolled.

By that definition, is there any arguments and debates that are not trolling? Am I trolling you now? If I start talking wanting to discuss a topic and he starts talking wanting to discuss the same topic it is not trolling. It must be trolling if he's looking for trouble.

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In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

He has been recently purposely trying to keep discussions on topic, with backlinks and everything.  As for the emotional posts, I find those obvious and most people tend to ignore them.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: davann on February 13, 2010, 04:33:53 PM
Eh, troll or not matters not to me. At least he is contributing.

Speaking of which.... any idea on a release date? I'd be happy with just narrowing it down to which quarter in 2010. Been looking forward to getting a chance to watch your flick for ages it seems.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: ForumTroll on February 13, 2010, 04:49:59 PM
He's not always trolling, sometimes he engages in a good conversation and debate.

You have been successfully trolled.

LOL, this soooo reminds me of the whole time I got pissed off at you for feeding a troll here.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: John Shaw on February 13, 2010, 05:37:54 PM
Eh, troll or not matters not to me. At least he is contributing.

Speaking of which.... any idea on a release date? I'd be happy with just narrowing it down to which quarter in 2010. Been looking forward to getting a chance to watch your flick for ages it seems.

When it's done. 2010.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: John Shaw on February 13, 2010, 05:38:49 PM
He's not always trolling, sometimes he engages in a good conversation and debate.

You have been successfully trolled.

LOL, this soooo reminds me of the whole time I got pissed off at you for feeding a troll here.


I didn't say "Don't respond at all", I said "Don't respond with anything but scorn."
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: John Shaw on February 13, 2010, 05:45:10 PM
He's not always trolling, sometimes he engages in a good conversation and debate.

You have been successfully trolled.

By that definition, is there any arguments and debates that are not trolling? Am I trolling you now? If I start talking wanting to discuss a topic and he starts talking wanting to discuss the same topic it is not trolling. It must be trolling if he's looking for trouble.

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In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

He has been recently purposely trying to keep discussions on topic, with backlinks and everything.  As for the emotional posts, I find those obvious and most people tend to ignore them.



Jesus fuck read up on Alex Libman before you defend him. Don't take my word for it, either. Go look at how many times he's necro'd threads, deleted his accounts, and acted like an all around piece of shit.

Dude wrote a two page long post describing how he was going to dismember and fuck the various parts of my mother on a steel table covered in medical equipment. He makes inflammatory comments, waits until people respond, then edits his comments to make the other person look nuts.

Please, if you don't know the history, STFU already. He's a goddamned troll.

I'm getting a little tired of people giving that fuckface a pass because he occasionally apologizes after going too far.

Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Riddler on February 13, 2010, 05:53:57 PM
i take umbrage at libman being labeled a troll:
i'm a damn fine motherfuckin troll.
i take it seriously.
libman's a pimple-faced, live-at-mommy's, do-nothing, worthless, gum-chewing, self-aggrandizing, friendless, futureless, no-prospect, untalented, lazy, shiftless, nose-picking, ass-licking, shit-balling pedophile....
soup's on, or i'da continued said rant.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Bill Brasky on February 13, 2010, 05:55:44 PM

@ JohnShaw!


All of Libmans stuff is under old names.  Good luck finding it if you're just a casual user.  
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: John Shaw on February 13, 2010, 05:58:51 PM
@ JohnShaw!

All of Libmans stuff is under old names.  Good luck finding it if you're just a casual user.  

Of course it all is. But again, I guess that only proves my point.

I guess no one will believe it unless a bunch of people who have run afoul of him chime in.

Whatever.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Level 20 Anklebiter on February 13, 2010, 06:19:06 PM
(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/6686/vtec2.jpg)
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: hellbilly on February 13, 2010, 06:49:57 PM
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In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

Sounds like what this thread is all about actually.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: John Shaw on February 13, 2010, 06:52:47 PM
Quote
In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

Sounds like what this thread is all about actually.

Okey dokey then. Fine. You want him, he's yours. I won't say another word about him unless he directly attacks me.

You heard it here first. For my part, Alex can do whatever the fuck he wants so long as he doesn't make a single fucking comment about me, personally.

Bets on:

A. How long that'll last.
B. How long you put up with him.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Bill Brasky on February 13, 2010, 07:09:37 PM
@ JohnShaw!

All of Libmans stuff is under old names.  Good luck finding it if you're just a casual user.  

Of course it all is. But again, I guess that only proves my point.

I guess no one will believe it unless a bunch of people who have run afoul of him chime in.

Whatever.

I totally agree, I'm just saying the average denizen of the BBS will see him as nothing more than an interesting radical who is, in fact, worth defending as evidenced in this thread. 

I noticed he's been busy - deleted a bunch of convo in the trash heap.  I think more than anything that tells volumes about his so-called beliefs.  I can understand pruning a thread when you get angry at it being derailed.  But if the topic is general pointless bullshit, destroying it is kinda weird.  That means all the people who each spent a few minutes contemplating and responding to your strange little pet-concept de'jour have no value, regardless of the fact they may have made a relevant and thoughtful contribution. 

Personally, I find it more than a little annoying that whenever someone mentions food or other casual activities, he will interrupt with masturbatory comments that belittle their contributions.  Its very disruptive to the continuity of the topic and it crushes spontaneous participation.  Its very disappointing to scroll past his disruption and find the convo has taken a foul turn and quickly peters out. 

I would like nothing better around here than for the general forum participant to ignore him manually or mentally, and continue their discussion as if unfazed by a petulant child. 
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: John Shaw on February 13, 2010, 07:12:52 PM
@ JohnShaw!

All of Libmans stuff is under old names.  Good luck finding it if you're just a casual user.  

Of course it all is. But again, I guess that only proves my point.

I guess no one will believe it unless a bunch of people who have run afoul of him chime in.

Whatever.

I totally agree, I'm just saying the average denizen of the BBS will see him as nothing more than an interesting radical who is, in fact, worth defending as evidenced in this thread. 

I noticed he's been busy - deleted a bunch of convo in the trash heap.  I think more than anything that tells volumes about his so-called beliefs.  I can understand pruning a thread when you get angry at it being derailed.  But if the topic is general pointless bullshit, destroying it is kinda weird.  That means all the people who each spent a few minutes contemplating and responding to your strange little pet-concept de'jour have no value, regardless of the fact they may have made a relevant and thoughtful contribution. 

Personally, I find it more than a little annoying that whenever someone mentions food or other casual activities, he will interrupt with masturbatory comments that belittle their contributions.  Its very disruptive to the continuity of the topic and it crushes spontaneous participation.  Its very disappointing to scroll past his disruption and find the convo has taken a foul turn and quickly peters out. 

I would like nothing better around here than for the general forum participant to ignore him manually or mentally, and continue their discussion as if unfazed by a petulant child. 


I'm glad cool people agree with me. Time and again he pulls this shit and time and again he gets a pass on it.

But he's got his leash now. I'll just sit back and watch the BBS traffic volume continue to crash and burn, like it's been doing for a couple months now.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Bill Brasky on February 13, 2010, 07:29:44 PM
He doesn't get a pass from me. 

I view him kinda like someone I really despise at my favorite bar, who happens to be worth speaking to on one topic.  Like if he was a total asshole but a knowledgeable coin-collector. 

(best analogy I can come up with in short order) 
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: hellbilly on February 13, 2010, 07:36:54 PM
What's the expected outcome on this topic? Are the rest of us supposed to pick a team? Ostracize Libman because he offends someone on the "cool" side?
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Bill Brasky on February 13, 2010, 07:45:10 PM
What's the expected outcome on this topic? Are the rest of us supposed to pick a team? Ostracize Libman because he offends someone on the "cool" side?

No.  I think this thread serves as a place to discuss Alex, where it won't be disruptive to other threads. 
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Riddler on February 13, 2010, 08:33:41 PM
[quote author=Drifter link=topic=32565.msg589034#msg589034 he will interrupt with masturbatory comments that belittle their contributions.  Its very disruptive to the continuity of the topic and it crushes spontaneous participation. 
[/quote]

all hail the hi-jack free zone
boo-yahhh
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: fatcat on February 13, 2010, 08:59:52 PM
I'll just sit back and watch the BBS traffic volume continue to crash and burn, like it's been doing for a couple months now.

I think you're giving Libman too much credit.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on February 13, 2010, 09:04:27 PM
I've given years of my life to this forum.  My heart and soul.

Has any human being ever experienced greater betrayal?
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: davann on February 13, 2010, 09:06:27 PM
Eh, troll or not matters not to me. At least he is contributing.

Speaking of which.... any idea on a release date? I'd be happy with just narrowing it down to which quarter in 2010. Been looking forward to getting a chance to watch your flick for ages it seems.

When it's done. 2010.

Sorry, you probably get that question a lot.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Riddler on February 13, 2010, 09:51:33 PM
dick & lib should get together & do a mutual suicide
be fun to read in the papes & much more tolerable around here.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Lindsey on February 13, 2010, 10:02:18 PM
dick & lib should get together & do a mutual suicide
be fun to read in the papes & much more tolerable around here.

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'll just sit back and watch the BBS traffic volume continue to crash and burn, like it's been doing for a couple months now.

I think you're giving Libman too much credit.

This BBS took a giant nose dive right after Taors decided to stop posting....for whatever reason. Prior to that, the BBS took a major blow when crazy Jane Puke decided to leave. The majority of the regular trouble makers are long gone now.

If those old school members do not come back, then it will be up to the lurkers to stand up to the plate, and make this place fun again.

Without the "trolls"....there will be no BBS.

I never got the chance to tell Jane Puke that I loved her.

Well, make sure you talk to Mark about her.  And then you might not love her anymore.  Just make sure...in case she ever comes back.  Crazy bitch was on TotalFark too... :lol:
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on February 13, 2010, 11:02:46 PM
On a lighter note, I think we've just witnessed John Shaw (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?action=profile;u=7730)'s 15,000th post (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=32565.msg589035#msg589035) on this forum.  Almost as many as me, but it's not the size that matters.  :lol:

Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: anarchir on February 14, 2010, 01:36:51 AM
Quote
In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

Sounds like what this thread is all about actually.

Okey dokey then. Fine. You want him, he's yours. I won't say another word about him unless he directly attacks me.

You heard it here first. For my part, Alex can do whatever the fuck he wants so long as he doesn't make a single fucking comment about me, personally.

Bets on:

A. How long that'll last.
B. How long you put up with him.

Good luck.

JohnShaw is teh troll man!
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: rookie on February 14, 2010, 01:40:53 AM
Eh, troll or not matters not to me. At least he is contributing.

I agree with this post.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: John Shaw on February 14, 2010, 10:44:25 AM
Quote
In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

Sounds like what this thread is all about actually.

Okey dokey then. Fine. You want him, he's yours. I won't say another word about him unless he directly attacks me.

You heard it here first. For my part, Alex can do whatever the fuck he wants so long as he doesn't make a single fucking comment about me, personally.

Bets on:

A. How long that'll last.
B. How long you put up with him.

Good luck.

JohnShaw is teh troll man!


Yeah, right. And how long did it take before fuckface put his foot in it?

http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=32582.0

12 hours. So you go right ahead and get suckered. As for me, I'm gonna sit back and watch. I'll watch when he deletes posts that antagonize people and insult them after they complain, and watch him accuse them of lying. I'll sit back and watch while he clutters up the front page with nothing but Alex Libmen created necro threads, and I'll sit back and watch while dumb asses get suckered into responding to him like he actually wants to have a real conversation rather than a place to make bitter, sniping responses meant to hurt and insult people, and I'll sit back and watch when I continue to get regular PMs from people who, at least five times a week, ask me when someone is gonna do something about him.

So yeah, again, you want it, you got it. You deserve it, too.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Riddler on February 14, 2010, 12:58:10 PM
can't someone simply find out where he lives?
know what i mean?
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Level 20 Anklebiter on February 14, 2010, 12:59:38 PM
can't someone simply find out where he lives?
know what i mean?

You mean send him one of those Thor horse dildos plus a lifetime supply of lube?
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on February 14, 2010, 01:57:16 PM
As stated elsewhere (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=32582), I now believe hate-threads such as this need to be approached constructively and diplomatically to identify any legitimate grievances that may be behind them, to admit wrongdoing on my part or to defend my behavior as appropriate.

If my replies here are deleted then they will be resurrected elsewhere, and if my attempts to elevate the constructiveness of the discussion are drowned out in an even greater flood of juvenile confrontational rudeness then these people's response will be documented as such yet again.  You can conclude a chess game by smashing in your opponent's skull and walk away feeling good afterwards, but you will not be remembered as a great chess player.  Only the fools will be fooled.

The dude is a fucking troll. He has been a troll. He is a troll. He will always be a troll.

What does the word "troll" mean to you?

I've only used it in describing myself as humorous self-deprecation (i.e. I really do look like a creature from Nordic folklore in my outward appearance).  I do often go on what I relativistically call "socialist forums" and engage people in debate, but I don't consider those campaigns to be a destructive or an intellectually shallow practice, quite to the contrary.  The same cannot be said of this forum, where people's political opinions are usually much closer to my own, and which I use for less confrontational but more creativity-driven discussions.  Isn't that what a forum is for?


If you respond to anything he says, in any thread, you have been trolled.

Your accusations are an effective thought-terminating cliché (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought-terminating_clich%C3%A9) that, if not clarified, can be applied to label anyone a heretic for any irrational reason.  Your accusations may be based on your personal reputation, which in turn is subject to their validity, but thus-far they have not been based on reason.


He is not participating on this BBS.  He is infecting it.

I am a part of this BBS, as are you.  I've participated in thousands of engaging conversations here, I've read countless conversations that I did not contribute to (which I've actually started doing a few months before I created my first account here), and I've posted many things here that others have read and appreciated but did not respond to (yet), and more people will probably read and may choose to reply in the future.  Some people (and bots) may even choose to copy-and-post my writings elsewhere, which too is a legitimate function of an Internet forum.  I have posted a hundred different genres of content here, but none of them were intended to do anything but promote the mutually-beneficial relationship between myself and this BBS.


On an average night, he bumps five threads, all of which he has created and almost no one has responded to. They are often months or years old.

On an average night I revive more like 0.5 old threads (i.e. a yearly average of the number of posts I make where the previous post is more than 90 days old), but I almost always do so by adding other relevant content to that thread, thus increasing its value.  Some people here agree (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=16071) that having too many threads on the same topic fragments the conversation and lowers its quality, and there are other benefits of "necroing" as well.  It elevates the value of this forum from a flood of throw-away one-liners into living literature that can have lasting value!

You are welcome to have a narrower view of how this forum should ideally be used, but your vocal "chronological snobbery" has no objective basis.  You are welcome to ignore me, to install server-side forum add-ons to make ignoring "necroed" threads easier (I'd gladly help with that effort, as well as some other features that would reduce the need to "necro", like tagging), etc - but bitching and whining about it every time benefits no one!


He is a fucking attention whore and a blight.

If I was just an "attention whore" then I could easily be a politically useful writer or a college professor.  I could have also made a strategic effort to be agreeable and popular here (ex. guns, meat, pop culture, photoshops, fake humility, and breasts), but that would have a much lower philosophical value to me personally.  Replace the word "attention" with "self-expression" and the word "whore" with "swinger", and you'll be a step closer to the truth.  My creative output may be original, but my tactics are in no way unusual or deliberately destructive.  All human relationships exchange value for value - without this interpersonal communication would be impossible.

My presence on this forum brings value that, although nuanced, cannot simply be dismissed as "blight".  I contribute a lot of creative and well-intentioned ideas to this forum that some people may appreciate, and others are free to ignore.  I am one of the most prolific posters here, although I agree that the literary value of my content is purely subjective (as is yours or anyone else's).  I also have a tendency to backlink to my threads on this forum from other sites (more so in between any major anti-Libman hate threads).

There is a whole list of reasons why my threads may be more thought-provoking than reply-provoking.  People are far more likely to be vocal in their rejection of something unusual than in their appreciation of it.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Laetitia on February 14, 2010, 02:36:05 PM
You mean send him one of those Thor horse dildos plus a lifetime supply of lube?

Would this be acceptable his self proclaimed asexual ultimate philosophy of life?
Because it's not another living being, there's no interpersonal, so inanimate may be okay.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on February 14, 2010, 02:39:39 PM
[...]

Dude wrote a two page long post describing how he was going to dismember and fuck the various parts of my mother on a steel table covered in medical equipment. He makes inflammatory comments, waits until people respond, then edits his comments to make the other person look nuts.

Please, if you don't know the history, STFU already. He's a goddamned troll.

I'm getting a little tired of people giving that fuckface a pass because he occasionally apologizes after going too far.

I definitely did go too far in that instance.  Although my violent rants (most of which have now been deleted) could not be reasonably interpreted as anything other than fantasy and an attempt at artistic superlativism, they have nonetheless reflected poorly on the movements that I try to associate myself with.  Their literary value on an average free speech forum could have been defended, but their use in the context in which I've used them cannot be.  The instance where I've deleted a post and jokingly pretended that it never existed needs to be understood in context, but it is nonetheless also an example of behavior that I now consider unacceptable of myself.

So I stand guilty on that serious accusation, and I never intended to simply say I'm sorry and move on.  I've said (http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=19932.msg236254#msg236254) that "I accept the responsibility for my stupidity, I recognize the legitimacy of the damage to my reputation (or what's left of it) that my stupidity has caused, and I recognize my responsibility to change my behavior and make amends moving forward".  My behavior did change, but I recognize that this isn't enough.  I do have a good idea on how I can make tangible amends (i.e. pay restitution) in regard to the Free State Project, but my guilt toward John Shaw's mother currently has no possible recourse that I am aware of.  Perhaps this is something I could bring up if/when the antagonism toward me cools down.


Okey dokey then. Fine. You want him, he's yours. I won't say another word about him unless he directly attacks me.

You heard it here first. For my part, Alex can do whatever the fuck he wants so long as he doesn't make a single fucking comment about me, personally.

I deserve the right to address the accusations that you've attempted to present against me.  Aside from that, when was the last time I've initiated communication with you or about you?  I honestly cannot remember...
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Level 20 Anklebiter on February 14, 2010, 02:55:23 PM
Alex, be honest. You're a fucking troll at times. I've had meaningful conversations with trolls on SL too, but that doesn't make up for their shitty trolldom, nor does your limited capacity to contribute to the forums here make up for yours. So either ditch the trolldom or ditch the meaningful conversations; you can't have both and get anyone's respect.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Riddler on February 14, 2010, 03:20:22 PM
can't someone simply find out where he lives?
know what i mean?

You mean send him one of those Thor horse dildos plus a lifetime supply of lube?

no.
my meaning involes my avatar...
big, ugly, baseball bat, shot-gun-weilding motherfuckers engaged in the art of ''disappearing''
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Turd Ferguson on February 14, 2010, 04:13:22 PM
I've given years of my life to this forum.  My heart and soul.

Has any human being ever experienced greater betrayal?


Actually I think Jesus got fucked over pretty bad.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on February 14, 2010, 04:16:30 PM
All of Libmans stuff is under old names.  Good luck finding it if you're just a casual user.

It is inaccurate to say that my stuff is under "old names", as if anything I've posted here was ever anonymous or deceptive.  My external backup script easily merges the different accounts I've had here into one user ID, and it is also very easy to search through this forum via Google.  I would only welcome any efforts to merge all my accounts, which I believe could be done with just a few easy SQL statements, and after which it would no longer have an overall benefit for me to cycle accounts ever again.

It is true that I often "cycle accounts" (usually as a gag upon reaching 1000 posts, and a few times due to emotional mood-swings, but for other reasons as well), but I've used my real name here since day one, and I never used more than one account at a time.  Using my real name here has been a great sacrifice due to many coworkers and clients Googling my name, and I've experienced a couple of mood-swings about that as well, but only very briefly.  Once I've cycled into an account called "Phant", which was based on my AIM alias, but I've identified myself as Alex Libman almost immediately.  I used the "AL the Inconspicuous" login name after I've experienced automated rejection trying to create an account with "Libman" in the login string, and I've always changed my "display name" to "Alex Libman" right off the bat.


I noticed he's been busy - deleted a bunch of convo in the trash heap.  I think more than anything that tells volumes about his so-called beliefs.  I can understand pruning a thread when you get angry at it being derailed.  But if the topic is general pointless bullshit, destroying it is kinda weird.  That means all the people who each spent a few minutes contemplating and responding to your strange little pet-concept de'jour have no value, regardless of the fact they may have made a relevant and thoughtful contribution.

There are very few things that I hate more than destroying information and personal self-expression, both of myself and others.  I've actually worked as an assistant archivist helping to digitize the secret diaries of various Soviet / Russian dissidents, many of whom have been killed or died in prison, and some were still imprisoned at the time.  The idea of someone's information just being destroyed, reaped out of its rightful place in the annals of human history, is horrifying to me...

I do not use the "Hijack Free Zone" often, and I do not use it lightly, and never without a reasonable warning.  In all my time here I've only had 29 threads there:  24 as "Alex Libman" (not counting one by an impersonator), 3 as "Alex Libman 15", 1 as "Ghost of Alex Libman", and 1 as "Phant".  Most of them are from 2008 (when I crawled into a bottle for a while), and many of which were placed there preemptively with no one's posts ever being deleted.  Almost all of the posts that I've deleted over the years have been repetitive one-lines, which sometimes flooded in by the thousand (i.e. my stupid Bob Barr thread, which I now do regret, but nonetheless defend as having been not too unreasonable at the time).  I've also at times utilized PM'ing and thread locking instead of deleting posts, because I recognize that "script wars" (with you-know-who auto-spamming and me auto-deleting) waste Web hosting resources and can make this forum unresponsive for regular use.

So, this brings us to the most recent incident of me deleting anything, which is the only one in a heck of a long time.  One man's "pointless bullshit" may be an other's highest example of human insight for which an online forum can ever be used!  I start some threads on this forum that document what are important life-changing events for me.  I don't keep a photo album of precious family memories like some people do, my previous memories are documented on forums such as this.  It is like a personal diary that is immune from ever being thrown into the memory hole, and is optionally open to other people's comments if they choose to make them, but within reason and with the possibility of a de-hijacking cleanup being forewarned.  I often mention and link to these kinds of threads, sometimes years later and sometimes in much more serious contexts, where the humorous nature of this forum would be less understood.  Those future readers may have a much more difficult time looking past the insults and the meme spam than I do...

"Coming out of the closed" as a sexual minority is never easy, but no group is degraded more by modern society than asexuals like myself.  My use of the "Hijack Free Zone" with the thread admitting and announcing my asexuality was reasonable, and it achieved the result I desired.  I even kept some of the less disruptive insults, and only removed the bigotry that has clearly passed any threshold of human decency.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: libertylover on February 14, 2010, 04:18:00 PM
Eh, troll or not matters not to me. At least he is contributing.

I agree with this post.

I agree with the post as well.  

When Libman has something interesting to say I will respond if not I ignore him.   People can only control themselves and not others so it is more about how you react than any outrageous thing Libman could post.  He has posted some thoughtful commentary with links and well thought out arguments.  
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Riddler on February 14, 2010, 04:47:48 PM
can't someone simply find out where he lives?
know what i mean?

You mean send him one of those Thor horse dildos plus a lifetime supply of lube?

no.
my meaning involes my avatar...
big, ugly, baseball bat, shot-gun-weilding motherfuckers engaged in the art of ''disappearing''


yet another retarded example of Luca Homozzi aka Lord Gaymungus throwing around violent talk. He tried similar shit on me, a little while back. This fucking moron has already been shitheaded and banned on here....he's been banned at least once on other libertarian message boards, too. He is also delusional when he figures that members here find his sort of talk acceptable.

If anyone should be getting trashed on....it should be this fucking douchebag Homozzi.

ahhh, dicky...
no one listens to you
you & lib need to do the suicide pact.
i'll pay
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: ForumTroll on February 14, 2010, 05:24:30 PM
I can't help it if I don't post much anymore. There isn't anyone around to help support my antics.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Riddler on February 14, 2010, 06:35:34 PM
I can't help it if I don't post much anymore. There isn't anyone around to help support my antics.

awww
c'mon, negroe
i always be there 4 U
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Riddler on February 14, 2010, 06:44:58 PM
]


ya...whatever...mouth breather retard.



ha.
i am a mouth-breating, gun-toting, whisikey-drinking, shit-talikng, meat-eating, MAN.
see that? at the end of the sentence?
dicky-photos-of-cigarettes-in-your-crotch-hair,weirdo-faggot-should-be-and-if-were-shot-in-the-head, nobody-would-care- 3
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: The ghost of a ghost of a ghost on February 14, 2010, 07:36:44 PM
Why was Luca Brazzi banned?
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: anarchir on February 14, 2010, 07:48:13 PM
Why was Luca Brazzi banned?

I dunno but I've got him on ignore.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: The ghost of a ghost of a ghost on February 14, 2010, 07:50:38 PM
Wow, I was surprised to see Luca Brazzi he is ignored by 11 members.  That's 4 times more than any other I've seen.  HMmmmm?

***Edited to clarify who I was referring to.***
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on February 14, 2010, 07:51:45 PM
The people who've supported me, both in public and in private, have my utmost gratitude.  I wouldn't mind being ostracized for a legitimate cause, and I welcome people who can't get over their irrational issues with things like "necroing" to just ignore me, but what's being spread about me here are gross exaggerations and completely baseless speculation about my intentions on this forum.


I'm glad cool people agree with me.  [...]

An anthropological analysis of this forum might reveal that the people most likely to vocally dislike me are those who are successful at projecting an "alpha male" personality onto this forum, who were rewarded for it with special mod-like privileges, and who see me as a potential threat to their place in the hierarchy.  Just a theory...


Alex, be honest.  You're a fucking troll at times.  [...]

That depends on your definition of "troll", which seems to be subjective to the point of being a completely substance-less insult.  To be perfectly honest, the first image that comes into my mind when I hear the word "troll" is John Shaw.  I'm not saying that to insult him, but that happens to be true, and has been true for quite a long time...


So either ditch the trolldom or ditch the meaningful conversations; you can't have both and get anyone's respect.

Ask a statistically significant sample of Internet users to flag my posts as "troll" or "not troll", and you'll never ever get complete agreement one way or another.  Some would consider all libertarians to be trolls, others all people who aren't faithful Muslims, some would appreciate my humor more than they appreciate my politics, etc, etc, etc.  Who gets to decide?

And if only a small minority thinks a particular post is "not troll", does that mean that post is harmful?  Ignoring the people, threads, and posts you don't like is very easy, and through technical improvements can be made easier still.


I've given years of my life to this forum.  My heart and soul.

Has any human being ever experienced greater betrayal?

Actually I think Jesus got fucked over pretty bad.

That was obviously a rhetorical question.  A lot of things people say here are rhetorical, and should only be treated factually when presented as such.  Yes, the reader can be expected to know the difference.

And the fictional character of Jesus didn't get fucked over by a forum that's supposed to be about religious tolerance, freedom of expression, and constructive camaraderie among people loosely tied to something like the "pro-liberty movement".  He knew exactly what he was getting into, and he got fucked over by the powers he spoke out against (and the mob that they influenced).  And my woeful mumble was intended to quantify the severity of the ongoing betrayal, not the punishment.


In regards to the people sending complaints to Shaw about Alex hogging up the boards...the main reason why it appears to be so is because fewer people are making threads, and participating much less.

I've always thought my efforts were actually doing some small part to help this BBS, and FTL and FSP as well by proxy.  Does anyone have any rational reason to think otherwise?


Wow, I was surprised to see he is ignored by 11 members.

I'd just like to clarify for any future readers that WidespreadPanic is talking about Luca Brazzi (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?action=profile;u=3813).  I currently have two people ignoring me, which is very high for me historically: d_goddard and ForumTroll.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Bill Brasky on February 14, 2010, 09:21:54 PM
Why was Luca Brazzi banned?

He wouldn't adapt to the restrictive use of the word 'nigger', and insisted it was his right.  We've reached an accord. 

"We", meaning the flexible modern acceptability in literature and media, but in first-person usage it should probably be restrained to the casual "nigga" rather than used as a linguistic device meant to insult people of a black lineage. 

Remarkably, he never switched over to any of the more amusing epithets. 
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Turd Ferguson on February 14, 2010, 09:25:03 PM
Why was Luca Brazzi banned?

He wouldn't adapt to the restrictive use of the word 'nigger', and insisted it was his right.  We've reached an accord. 

"We", meaning the flexible modern acceptability in literature and media, but in first-person usage it should probably be restrained to the casual "nigga" rather than used as a linguistic device meant to insult people of a black lineage. 

Remarkably, he never switched over to any of the more amusing epithets. 


great grandpa used to call em "moon crickets"
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on February 14, 2010, 10:14:59 PM
Libman rocks. When Aprilism has taken over this solar system, and possibly others, he will be one of the few people outside the Aprilist system who will not be considered a "shoot-on-sight" outlaw.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on February 14, 2010, 10:16:20 PM
Quote
Dude wrote a two page long post describing how he was going to dismember and fuck the various parts of my mother on a steel table covered in medical equipment. He makes inflammatory comments, waits until people respond, then edits his comments to make the other person look nuts.

I demand a link to this.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: John Shaw on February 14, 2010, 10:32:19 PM
Quote
Dude wrote a two page long post describing how he was going to dismember and fuck the various parts of my mother on a steel table covered in medical equipment. He makes inflammatory comments, waits until people respond, then edits his comments to make the other person look nuts.

I demand a link to this.

He deleted it and pretended for a while that it didn't exist, before being called out by too many people to deny it any longer. I'm sure he saved a copy.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: ForumTroll on February 15, 2010, 11:15:40 AM
I've concluded libertylover is a troll too, with her constant vacciene topics. So she's ignored now too.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Riddler on February 15, 2010, 12:28:49 PM
Why was Luca Brazzi banned?

coupla p.c. fags:
wtfkenny, most-likely dicky & libman & sincere  (a seldom-heard-from negroe...he's actually ok as it turns out)
whined to ian over the word ''nigga'' way back.
it's tolerated now, but i had to pay some dues for it.
when the ''cool'' people started using it, i was allowed back in.

Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: ForumTroll on February 15, 2010, 12:29:24 PM
Why was Luca Brazzi banned?

coupla p.c. fags:
wtfkenny, most-likely dicky & libman & sincere  (a seldom-heard-from negroe...he's actually ok as it turns out)
whined to ian over the word ''nigga'' way back.
it's tolerated now, but i had to pay some dues for it.
when the ''cool'' people started using it, i was allowed back in.



You're annoying, but not that annoying.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on February 15, 2010, 02:10:31 PM
He deleted it and pretended for a while that it didn't exist, before being called out by too many people to deny it any longer.  [...]

I don't recall ever denying that it existed.  Look, I've tried to mindfuck John Shaw once when I "necroed" a thread, Shaw lashed out at me for doing that, which after a while is downright comical, so, yes, I deleted my post, creating the impression that Shaw has necroed, and then accused him of that.  Guilty.  That was once, and I don't even remember if the gag ran for one post or just half a post with an appropriate emoticon at the end.  In his imagination that must have happened a million times -- mindfucking does that to you -- but in reality it was only once.  He started this little feud, he escalated it the vast majority of the times, and he has done much worse things than simply pass the buck on a necroed thread!
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: anarchir on February 15, 2010, 02:27:32 PM
Hey, at least the trolls who have been on here recently havent had that annoying crazy-writing of NHA10 :)
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: John Shaw on February 15, 2010, 02:29:55 PM
Hey, at least the trolls who have been on here recently havent had that annoying crazy-writing of NHA10 :)


Only because he finally got banned for spamming.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Bill Brasky on February 15, 2010, 02:38:17 PM
Why was Luca Brazzi banned?

He wouldn't adapt to the restrictive use of the word 'nigger', and insisted it was his right.  We've reached an accord. 

"We", meaning the flexible modern acceptability in literature and media, but in first-person usage it should probably be restrained to the casual "nigga" rather than used as a linguistic device meant to insult people of a black lineage. 

Remarkably, he never switched over to any of the more amusing epithets. 



great grandpa used to call em "moon crickets"

I love that one. 
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: anarchir on February 15, 2010, 02:46:24 PM
Hey, at least the trolls who have been on here recently havent had that annoying crazy-writing of NHA10 :)


Only because he finally got banned for spamming.

Really? Huh, I thought he was just taking longer than usual to be let out of the psych ward this time.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Riddler on February 15, 2010, 03:15:12 PM
Wow, I was surprised to see Luca Brazzi he is ignored by 11 members.  

yes.
let's take a look, shall we?

AncapAgency, Rillion, russellkanning, Lothar, Manuel_OKelly, ~* LCPLIC3 *~ <3, anarchir, Dave P. R. of S., freetarian, nefarious plot, Kvitka

1's a shit-bird l.a. cop (lcplic3)
1's a straw hat-wearing deadbeat dad , all around p.c. faggot (kanning)
1's an uptight cunt (rillion)
1's a fucking wrestler??!! (freetarian)
ancap ,lothar,manuel,davenefarious,kvitka???
all people of zero import.
they make great company for one another.
a veritable who's who of self-righteous, overbearing, insufferable twats...

oh, and another thing w/ the ''ignore'' feature.
it's a little game fucking poseurs play.
you KNOW these niggas take people off ignore, to see what's been said, then quickly click 'em back on, so no one will notice
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on February 15, 2010, 03:51:41 PM
Hey, at least the trolls who have been on here recently havent had that annoying crazy-writing of NHA10 :)


Only because he finally got banned for spamming.

TimeLady likes this post.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: anarchir on February 15, 2010, 04:11:13 PM
Wow, I was surprised to see Luca Brazzi he is ignored by 11 members.  

yes.
let's take a look, shall we?


1's a shit-bird l.a. cop (lcplic3)
1's a straw hat-wearing deadbeat dad , all around p.c. faggot (kanning)
1's an uptight cunt (rillion)
1's a fucking wrestler??!! (freetarian)
ancap ,lothar,manuel,davenefarious,kvitka???
all people of zero import.
they make great company for one another.
a veritable who's who of self-righteous, overbearing, insufferable twats...

Is my name invisible? I feel insulted that I was the only one on that list not insulted!

How does that happen?

Quote
oh, and another thing w/ the ''ignore'' feature.
it's a little game fucking poseurs play.
you KNOW these niggas take people off ignore, to see what's been said, then quickly click 'em back on, so no one will notice

Yeah I unclick hide sometimes, but it makes sure I take note not to take your post seriously.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on February 15, 2010, 04:17:57 PM
I almost never use the (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/Themes/theme1/images/english/ignore.gif) (ignore) feature, because even if I wanted to not see somebody's posts / threads then a Greasemonkey hack would be a better way to do it.  Now it seems that it's become a social feedback system of sorts (the only reason Shaw just added me, becoming #3), and it does function pretty effectively.  Goddard's use of the ignore feature on me has been very effective, for example...

So you can add me to the list of people ignoring Luca Brazzi as well.  :roll:

I would defend NHA10 though.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Riddler on February 15, 2010, 04:59:43 PM
Wow, I was surprised to see Luca Brazzi he is ignored by 11 members. 

yes.
let's take a look, shall we?


1's a shit-bird l.a. cop (lcplic3)
1's a straw hat-wearing deadbeat dad , all around p.c. faggot (kanning)
1's an uptight cunt (rillion)
1's a fucking wrestler??!! (freetarian)
ancap ,lothar,manuel,davenefarious,kvitka???
all people of zero import.
they make great company for one another.
a veritable who's who of self-righteous, overbearing, insufferable twats...

Is my name invisible? I feel insulted that I was the only one on that list not insulted!

How does that happen?

Quote
oh, and another thing w/ the ''ignore'' feature.
it's a little game fucking poseurs play.
you KNOW these niggas take people off ignore, to see what's been said, then quickly click 'em back on, so no one will notice

Yeah I unclick hide sometimes, but it makes sure I take note not to take your post seriously.

you prove my point;
having me on ignore makes you feel better?
you accomplish zero, cuz as we can all plainly see, you really aren't ignoring me
after all, are you?
kind of a silly little game you play w/ yourself, isn't it?
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Rillion on February 15, 2010, 06:08:42 PM
Is my name invisible? I feel insulted that I was the only one on that list not insulted!

Just say that you don't find anything he's posted worthwhile.  That's what made him go from this:

girl, i def. dig you now..

to this:

no, bitch.
i'm your eternal-fucking-train-wreck
you won't deny me.
you tried once.
i'm arnold-the-terminator-''I'LL BE BACK''
DRIVING THROUGH THE PLATE-GLASS WINDOW of your life

...about me.   :lol:
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Riddler on February 15, 2010, 06:12:20 PM
you have that effect on people
(yet another one that plays the ignore game
but just quoted two of my fprmer posts)
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Rillion on February 15, 2010, 06:17:46 PM
you have that effect on people
(yet another one that plays the ignore game
but just quoted two of my fprmer posts)

The only reason I haven't put your ass on ignore is because I can't, due to using the Helios format.  I haven't seen you say a single useful or interesting thing in any of those aliases. 
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Lindsey on February 16, 2010, 09:33:01 AM
Can't we all just get along?   :lol:
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on February 16, 2010, 11:17:05 AM
I know I can.  :D

(Hey, this thread used to be about me...)
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on February 26, 2010, 11:03:23 PM
Imported from another thread (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=32829.0):

Alex Libman is currently in his least funny trolling phase.

Once again - what does the word "trolling" mean to you?  Going by the standard definition it would mean perpetually hijacking conversations into a completely unrelated direction for one's own amusement (kind of like what you've done on that thread), but what does "trolling" mean in the context of the Free Talk Live BBS?  Is starting philosophical threads about robot / AI Rights somehow inconsistent with the purpose of this forum?
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on February 27, 2010, 12:32:25 PM
Imported from another thread (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=28891.75):

And here I was thinking Libman had turned over a new leaf.  Stupid me.  :roll:

Then you clearly failed to understand what the "new leaf" was referring to.  It meant controlling my violent rants (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=32323) and trying to cut down on the lulz (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=32687), not agreeing that white is black and black is white and hiding under a mattress lest my ideas annoy anyone!

I'm here for a very specific purpose (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=32582), and I work damn hard every day to elevate this forum with my ideas - you don't have to like them, but it would be intellectually dishonest of anyone to claim they aren't well intentioned!
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: ForumTroll on February 27, 2010, 01:52:47 PM
B.T? wat
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: digitalfour on February 27, 2010, 03:54:55 PM
Ben Tucker.

His point of view was definitely more interesting.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: DontTreadOnMike on February 28, 2010, 01:50:43 AM
Imported from another thread (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=32829.0):

Alex Libman is currently in his least funny trolling phase.

Once again - what does the word "trolling" mean to you?  Going by the standard definition it would mean perpetually hijacking conversations into a completely unrelated direction for one's own amusement (kind of like what you've done on that thread), but what does "trolling" mean in the context of the Free Talk Live BBS?  Is starting philosophical threads about robot / AI Rights somehow inconsistent with the purpose of this forum?


Serious business.


But seriously, chill out. I like you. You're funny...or at least you were until you "swore off humor" and changed your avatar to commander data (which obviously indicates that you're still trying to be funny)

I call this your least funny phase because I appreciate your past work and I want the old Libman back.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: DontTreadOnMike on February 28, 2010, 02:02:48 AM
Here's my view of "The Fued."

Libman writes some tl;dr post about something I don't care about so I ignore it and Shaw flips out, but I don't know if it's warranted because I didn't care enough to read the original post. But dammit, it's fun to watch. It gives me a sense of normalcy and security, I don't like change.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on February 28, 2010, 02:13:22 AM
I prefer writing "tl-dr" with a dash instead of a semicolon.  It's a Lisp thing.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Andy on February 28, 2010, 09:51:00 AM
Libman "Trolls" he also has interesting ideas - where they differ from orthodox liberty mumbo jumbo I generally disagree - though fsm knows I differ plenty too.

Overall I'd call him a net benefit that was allowed to grow too much into a vacuum.

I didn't observe the immediate trigger of this stuff.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on February 28, 2010, 10:42:25 AM
who's ben tucker

also a libman who does not bring the lulz is not a libman I want to violently masturbate to while torturing captured policemen
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on February 28, 2010, 04:34:40 PM
No one loves you, TimeLady Victorious, and no one ever will.  You will die alone, shivering in some kidnapper's basement while he's holding you for a jar of untainted urine as ransom, to help him pass a drug test, but no one will care enough about you to UPS him some.  He'll then dump your body at night near where he found you, and your corpse will sour there for months, as birds and even maggots refuse to eat it.  Finally someone will call the police and a bunch of government bureaucrats will dispose of your body in a landfill, costing $50,000 to local tax-victims, who will name an Internet meme after you, meaning something along the lines of "pathetic social parasite who its own mother should have drowned".  The YouTube video of garbage men puking on your corpse will set a new world record.  A new holiday will be invented on April 15th with you as its villain, where children make your effigy out of dung and kitty litter, put it in a giant blender, and convert the liquefied remains to bio-diesel specifically formulated for Burmese mopeds that are used by traveling government agents who perform random anal lubricant viscosity tests in homes across America.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Rillion on February 28, 2010, 04:41:46 PM
No one loves you, TimeLady Victorious, and no one ever will.  You will die alone, shivering in some kidnapper's basement while he's holding you for a jar of untainted urine as ransom, to help him pass a drug test, but no one will care enough about you to UPS him some.  He'll then dump your body at night near where he found you, and your corpse will sour there for months, as birds and even maggots refuse to eat it.  Finally someone will call the police and a bunch of government bureaucrats will dispose of your body in a landfill, costing $50,000 to local tax-victims, who will name an Internet meme after you, meaning something along the lines of "pathetic social parasite who its own mother should have drowned".  The YouTube video of garbage men puking on your corpse will set a new world record.  A new holiday will be invented on April 15th with you as its villain, where children make your effigy out of dung and kitty litter, put it in a giant blender, and convert the liquefied remains to bio-diesel specifically formulated for Burmese mopeds that are used by traveling government agents who perform random anal lubricant viscosity tests in homes across America.

I'm quoting this in case Libman deletes it, just to note that some things will never change. 
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on February 28, 2010, 04:47:24 PM
Stop quoting my love poems.  They are not for you.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on February 28, 2010, 08:53:46 PM
No one loves you, TimeLady Victorious, and no one ever will.  You will die alone, shivering in some kidnapper's basement while he's holding you for a jar of untainted urine as ransom, to help him pass a drug test, but no one will care enough about you to UPS him some.  He'll then dump your body at night near where he found you, and your corpse will sour there for months, as birds and even maggots refuse to eat it.  Finally someone will call the police and a bunch of government bureaucrats will dispose of your body in a landfill, costing $50,000 to local tax-victims, who will name an Internet meme after you, meaning something along the lines of "pathetic social parasite who its own mother should have drowned".  The YouTube video of garbage men puking on your corpse will set a new world record.  A new holiday will be invented on April 15th with you as its villain, where children make your effigy out of dung and kitty litter, put it in a giant blender, and convert the liquefied remains to bio-diesel specifically formulated for Burmese mopeds that are used by traveling government agents who perform random anal lubricant viscosity tests in homes across America.


No one's ever said such a heartfelt thing to me before.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on March 01, 2010, 02:54:39 AM
No one loves you, TimeLady Victorious, and no one ever will.  You will die alone, shivering in some kidnapper's basement while he's holding you for a jar of untainted urine as ransom, to help him pass a drug test, but no one will care enough about you to UPS him some.  He'll then dump your body at night near where he found you, and your corpse will sour there for months, as birds and even maggots refuse to eat it.  Finally someone will call the police and a bunch of government bureaucrats will dispose of your body in a landfill, costing $50,000 to local tax-victims, who will name an Internet meme after you, meaning something along the lines of "pathetic social parasite who its own mother should have drowned".  The YouTube video of garbage men puking on your corpse will set a new world record.  A new holiday will be invented on April 15th with you as its villain, where children make your effigy out of dung and kitty litter, put it in a giant blender, and convert the liquefied remains to bio-diesel specifically formulated for Burmese mopeds that are used by traveling government agents who perform random anal lubricant viscosity tests in homes across America.

No one's ever said such a heartfelt thing to me before.

Romance accomplished.  :D
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on March 01, 2010, 04:57:28 AM
I hijacked a thread about me being a troll by....  being a troll?  :lol:
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Bill Brasky on March 01, 2010, 05:08:11 AM
Warning: Hijacking in progress.

The people who need that notification don't deserve that notification. 

I think you did that notification for masturbatory purposes. 

Which is the only reason to do anything, ever. 

Much like this post you're reading.

Which I've deliberately

shaped

2WtG
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on March 01, 2010, 05:54:41 AM
No one loves you, TimeLady Victorious, and no one ever will.  You will die alone, shivering in some kidnapper's basement while he's holding you for a jar of untainted urine as ransom, to help him pass a drug test, but no one will care enough about you to UPS him some.  He'll then dump your body at night near where he found you, and your corpse will sour there for months, as birds and even maggots refuse to eat it.  Finally someone will call the police and a bunch of government bureaucrats will dispose of your body in a landfill, costing $50,000 to local tax-victims, who will name an Internet meme after you, meaning something along the lines of "pathetic social parasite who its own mother should have drowned".  The YouTube video of garbage men puking on your corpse will set a new world record.  A new holiday will be invented on April 15th with you as its villain, where children make your effigy out of dung and kitty litter, put it in a giant blender, and convert the liquefied remains to bio-diesel specifically formulated for Burmese mopeds that are used by traveling government agents who perform random anal lubricant viscosity tests in homes across America.

No one's ever said such a heartfelt thing to me before.

Romance accomplished.  :D


Humans finish mating by the female ripping off the male's head and eating it, right?
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on March 01, 2010, 02:12:19 PM
No, by the male going out for cigarettes and never coming back.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on March 01, 2010, 02:16:36 PM
Ew, cigarettes! Those things'll kill ya.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on March 01, 2010, 02:31:33 PM
Um...  You don't actually have to buy the cigarettes after you leave...  Duh!

You're not usually this stupid.  I think all your love hormones are blocking your capacity for critical thought...
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on March 01, 2010, 02:33:41 PM

You're not usually this stupid. 


Clearly you don't know me at all then! This courtship is over!

And I'm keeping your legs! *saws off your legs with a hacksaw, runs off with them*
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on March 01, 2010, 02:35:47 PM
Hey, that's almost like a billion dollars (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=32618) worth of Libman steak!
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on March 01, 2010, 02:38:18 PM
(http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/426145/1000309.jpg)
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on March 01, 2010, 02:44:23 PM
Hey, that's almost like a billion dollars (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=32618) worth of Libman steak!


If you're serious about that, someday I will buy a vial of your blood. Totally not for an arcane ritual involving me possessing your body and sending all your bank account numbers to me. Totally not.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on March 01, 2010, 03:07:15 PM
Of course I'm serious.  But all my brokerage / savings accounts are empty and closed - I just have a PayPal and a checking account to receive payments, but I always cash it out immediately.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: dalebert on March 01, 2010, 04:16:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMEe7JqBgvg

Won't let me embed it. Sorry.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: anarchir on March 01, 2010, 04:18:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMEe7JqBgvg

Won't let me embed it. Sorry.


Collegehumor! I thought of this bbs when I first saw that.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on March 01, 2010, 04:39:26 PM
This thread started with a Shawquake, peaked at my thorough debunking, and then devolved into random lulz...

I am not an ordinary troll - I only appear as one to people with IQ <170.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: The ghost of a ghost of a ghost on March 01, 2010, 06:42:22 PM
Sounds like a gauntlet laid?  If so, I think  a battle of the brains between you and your detractors whereby the loser is  banished from bbs for a year would be great libertarian fun. 
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on March 01, 2010, 07:13:59 PM
No deal.

Even the most experienced lancer can make a mistake and lose to a n00b.  Plus I have no incentive for that kind of contest - I don't want anyone banished.  This forum is my trollcave.  I like it (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=32582), and I wouldn't risk losing just to prove what is already apparent to all the people that matter.
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: The ghost of a ghost of a ghost on March 01, 2010, 07:27:30 PM
Battle of brains, no banishment? 
Title: Re: Alex Libman is a troll, so please stop.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on March 01, 2010, 07:35:42 PM
Obfuscated C contest?

Irish poetry recital?

Blind speed chess?

Robotic curling?

Fart jokes?