in a public forum if someone else has the floor to speak I have no right to infringe upon that person's individual freedom of speech right (a common right) by shouting them down
Nope, it's not intrinsic. You decide to let the person speak because it's a matter of courtesy [AN OUGHT-BE, BUT NOT WILL-BE] or for other reasons. I could easily have a shotgun and blow your head off in public so I can be like Ash out of Evil Dead. *Groovy* What magical force, or rather rationalizing FARCE, do you have to stop me? An army? What if the other people think you're ass, and kill you before I do? You see, your argument hinges on rights being intrinsic, but you have not proven as such. So again...PROVE YOU HAVE RIGHTS INTRINSICALLY, IT IS NOT HARD FOR YOU TO FORMULATE A PROOF IF YOU TRY, BUT I DOUBT YOU WILL SINCE YOU DO NOT HAVE THE INTELLECTUAL FORTITUDE TO THINK OUT YOUR BOX.
in essence this is similar to two people can not stand in the same place at the same time else one is aggressing upon the other
One could kill the other. What will your rights do then? In fact that is the reigning paradigm for the world at large. He who has the biggest stick or can buy the biggest stick wins. What you can't get over is the fact that your silly rights theory is fucked without rational beings and EGOISM, which would lead to private land ownership since it is rational for individuals to maintain their own parcel/space/domain rather than demanding others to do it for them through a ransom you call economic rent.
it then is a justified use of force for the state to remove me for infringing upon the individual common rights of another.
Say who? Henry George? God? The Easter Bunny? What you don't get yet again is that rights do not come with your birth, they come with you assertion of force physical and mental. You have to assert the power[force] to have a right. If I never speak privately or publically, I never have used the freedom of speech right. Or if I never own any personal property, I may never use the freedom from unlawful searches and seizures. And if I do not live with other human beings, I will never assert any right what-so-ever throughout my life time. Because of that, rights are social rules and moral ought-bes, are dependent on two simple coefficients: the people that agree to abide by them and their means to detect the improvement of their lives with rights.
Also, the fact that you cherry pick quotes that have nothing to do with the debate, which is what proof do you have that you have rights intrinsic to your person as you have mass intrinsic to being made of matter, proves yet again you either do not know what you are talking about or are not unlike a muslim cleric that keeps saying, "But Muhhamed said..." over and over without any logical or rational conclusion or premises to lead you out of your forest of rationalizations.
As such, this will be my last post with you, Ben, since you cannot refute my argument at any front. You are an idealoge[sp?] and a tit!
-- Bridget