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ok , i gotta watch it before i say anything.......
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And you didn't earn your liberty; it's yours and others infringe upon it.



So if someone infringes upon your liberty, does it still exist?


You only have what you are willing to prevent others from taking from you.
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And you didn't earn your liberty; it's yours and others infringe upon it.



So if someone infringes upon your liberty, does it still exist?


You only have what you are willing to prevent others from taking from you.

In a manner this is true..

However that's not the point to "natural rights"..
A "natural right" is really only a descriptor of what you are rationally justified in having and protecting without being the one to cause a conflict.

And a natural law therefore is merely a concept that if followed by everyone in precise terms there would be no conflict.

And if the purpose of a law is to reduce problems between humans..
« Last Edit: May 24, 2011, 08:27:52 PM by lucidhawk »
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"The arguments that were used to perpetuate slavery are identical to the arguments that are used to perpetuate the existence of the state."

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Of course if we respected the same "rights" of plants, animals and bugs we would have to remain perfectly still and die from starvation..
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A "natural right" is really only a descriptor of what you are rationally justified in having and protecting without being the one to cause a conflict.

And a natural law therefore is merely a concept that if followed by everyone in precise terms there would be no conflict.

And if the purpose of a law is to reduce problems between humans..

Who enforces the law?
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A "natural right" is really only a descriptor of what you are rationally justified in having and protecting without being the one to cause a conflict.

And a natural law therefore is merely a concept that if followed by everyone in precise terms there would be no conflict.

And if the purpose of a law is to reduce problems between humans..

Who enforces the law?

http://vimeo.com/23290325
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A "natural right" is really only a descriptor of what you are rationally justified in having and protecting without being the one to cause a conflict.

And a natural law therefore is merely a concept that if followed by everyone in precise terms there would be no conflict.

And if the purpose of a law is to reduce problems between humans..
how do these guys get paid?

Who enforces the law?

http://vimeo.com/23290325
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Yes I just responded to your q with a 2 hour lecture.  8)
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Yes I just responded to your q with a 2 hour lecture.  8)


Yeah, but im fuckin' DUMB.

Attention span of a squirrel as well. By the time you got into the meaty part of your speech, my mind will have already drifted off into thoughts of circus clowns and apple pies.

Do you have a coloring book version?

I still cant figure out what rights are.
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get ahold of yourself, hawk......
and i know i'm gonna come off as some smarmy 'kent-kuntette''
but , it's ''falling apart at the S-E-A-M-S'', ..........nigga
you lose a certain element of the think-tank amongst us, when you misspell your thread title......

*as i sit back in my smoking jacket, taylor-fladgate 20 yr. tawny in one hand, grandfather's pipe whispering a soft mist of cavendish black from my other........ i chuckle lowly at the ''enter'' button on my computer, satisfied that i have cut the legs from under thy opponent.....
with a simple....click....
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Positive freedom and negative freedom. A pos freedom is freedom to protect your life, liberty, property. A negative freedom is a claim to the services of others: freedom from hunger, freedom from sickness, freedom from fear. You can trade for these by offering the owner of that service something of value or claim that its a right and force them to provide it.
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get ahold of yourself, hawk......
and i know i'm gonna come off as some smarmy 'kent-kuntette''
but , it's ''falling apart at the S-E-A-M-S'', ..........nigga
you lose a certain element of the think-tank amongst us, when you misspell your thread title......

*as i sit back in my smoking jacket, taylor-fladgate 20 yr. tawny in one hand, grandfather's pipe whispering a soft mist of cavendish black from my other........ i chuckle lowly at the ''enter'' button on my computer, satisfied that i have cut the legs from under thy opponent.....
with a simple....click....

Haha thanks I'll admit I'm not the greatest speller. Though, I know how to spell "seams". But I didn't even notice the misspelling. *fixed*
« Last Edit: May 27, 2011, 04:51:58 AM by lucidhawk »
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