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Low-Eight

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A hypothetical situation
« on: July 21, 2009, 10:27:01 PM »

Here's a hypothetical question for you.
If a group of Free staters all moved to a rural area and purchased their houses, and the surrounding land, could they not incorporate that land into a city?  and, as a city, or borough, they could set up a city council.  This council could effectively set all locall taxes for that area as zero, and anyone living there would be responsible for picking up the costs that the former borough authority had previously accommodated.  DROs could be set up that charged at an as needed basis, there would be a volunteer fire dept,  roads would be built as the citizens paid for them.  of course, state and federal taxes and regulations would still apply.  what do you guys think?
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Re: A hypothetical situation
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2009, 10:31:34 PM »

There is a New Hampshire town with only 40 residents. It could easily be done.
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Re: A hypothetical situation
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2009, 10:40:43 PM »

of course, state and federal taxes and regulations would still apply.  what do you guys think?
What is the point?
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Re: A hypothetical situation
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2009, 10:44:38 PM »

of course, state and federal taxes and regulations would still apply.  what do you guys think?
What is the point?

Well, it is a step in the right direction.  Around here at least, local taxes seem the most prevalent.  And the police are locals as well. Without a law enforcement agency, much more freedom can be achieved.  and of course, they could decide to stop paying all taxes, but I was just pointing out a 'legal' option.
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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2009, 10:54:47 PM »

I would rather have a local cop that is voted on, than have the state police with jurisdiction over everything.
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Re: A hypothetical situation
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2009, 11:33:20 PM »

I would rather have a local cop that is voted on, than have the state police with jurisdiction over everything.

Assuming I went along with the rest of the premise, I would agree. The city counsel could hire one Andy Griffith-like guy who would know it is his job to be noncooperative with outside agencies unless there was a clear crime with an actual victim.

Of course all of the oversight and crap from the state would more than compensate for any benefit received.
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Re: A hypothetical situation
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2009, 10:31:55 AM »

Of course all of the oversight and crap from the state would more than compensate for any benefit received.

It also does nothing about the predations of the state itself against the people in the "libertown".

Incorporating might create a very unobtrusive "city", but it is still just one more layer of government.

Thank you, no.
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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2009, 03:53:10 PM »

I like the idea. It is a layer of government but one that would be small enough to control for a bit. The amount of freedom would increase so it would be a win for few years at least. Not sure if it would be possible on the east coast. Is not every square inch of land already incorporated?
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Re: A hypothetical situation
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2009, 10:16:42 AM »

I like the idea. It is a layer of government but one that would be small enough to control for a bit. The amount of freedom would increase so it would be a win for few years at least. Not sure if it would be possible on the east coast. Is not every square inch of land already incorporated?

not at all, there are plenty of places here in PA that are not incorporated.  Dundalk, a town of 50,000 people, outside of Baltimore, is unincorporated.
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Re: A hypothetical situation
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2009, 10:40:50 AM »

Not sure if it would be possible on the east coast. Is not every square inch of land already incorporated?

Interesting factoid on this subject: The state of Connecticut abolished county government several (many?) years ago, due to the fact that there was no unincorporated land left.

The lines remain on maps for historical purposes.
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