"Shouldn't the atheists be getting upset at my transition to pantheism?" -Ian

[orion]

Guess I don't understand how you all can be so sure about what the universe doesn't do.  Perhaps there is more to it than you realize.  

Is everyone in here familiar with the double split experiment?

[youtube=425,350]DfPeprQ7oGc[/youtube]

[therealritasue]

Guess I don't understand how you all can be so sure about what the universe doesn't do.  Perhaps there is more to it than you realize.   

We're not saying that it's not possible, we're just saying that it's not the most logical conclusion, and that there are other explanations that are more logical. Like I said, we aren't trying to get to you change or anything, I just think you should understand more where we're coming from before you make such a statement.

[therealritasue]

Guess I don't understand how you all can be so sure about what the universe doesn't do.  Perhaps there is more to it than you realize.  

Is everyone in here familiar with the double split experiment?

[youtube=425,350]DfPeprQ7oGc[/youtube]

I LOVE that. That always blew my mind.

[BonerJoe]

Guess I don't understand how you all can be so sure about what the universe doesn't do.  Perhaps there is more to it than you realize.  

Is everyone in here familiar with the double split experiment?

[youtube=425,350]DfPeprQ7oGc[/youtube]

I LOVE that. That always blew my mind.

Proof that we're in The Matrix and computing power is only allocated to active processes? Hehe.

[FTL_Ian]

I know where you're coming from, as I used to be there.   

[Mayor Maximus]

Ok, now my world view is melting... Will somebody please provide some perspective to this?  That experiment basically means that just because the tree is there when we observe it, it may or may not be there when we aren't.

[Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith)]

Guess I don't understand how you all can be so sure about what the universe doesn't do.  Perhaps there is more to it than you realize.  

Is everyone in here familiar with the double split experiment?

[youtube=425,350]DfPeprQ7oGc[/youtube]

I LOVE that. That always blew my mind.

If you don't understand this, you need to take basic physics.  It's not really all that mind blowing.  Electrons travel in a wave pattern OMG.

[Mayor Maximus]

Well i guess we aren't all as smart and talented as you.  Stop being a pompous ass for no reason.

[therealritasue]

Guess I don't understand how you all can be so sure about what the universe doesn't do.  Perhaps there is more to it than you realize.  

Is everyone in here familiar with the double split experiment?

[youtube=425,350]DfPeprQ7oGc[/youtube]

I LOVE that. That always blew my mind.

If you don't understand this, you need to take basic physics.  It's not really all that mind blowing.  Electrons travel in a wave pattern OMG.

Just because you understand how something works, doesn't make it not cool. Wave-particle duality, like all of physics, is fascinating to me.

Like he said, no need to be a pompous ass.

[JWI]

Well i guess we aren't all as smart and talented as you.  Stop being a pompous ass for no reason.

There will be plenty more.  For some reason the "smart" people can't resist going on a message board and insulting the rest of the users.

[Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith)]

Guess I don't understand how you all can be so sure about what the universe doesn't do.  Perhaps there is more to it than you realize.  

Is everyone in here familiar with the double split experiment?

[youtube=425,350]DfPeprQ7oGc[/youtube]

I LOVE that. That always blew my mind.

If you don't understand this, you need to take basic physics.  It's not really all that mind blowing.  Electrons travel in a wave pattern OMG.

Just because you understand how something works, doesn't make it not cool. Wave-particle duality, like all of physics, is fascinating to me.

Like he said, no need to be a pompous ass.

Sorry, I thought it was mind blowing too... until I took physics in college.

[therealritasue]

Guess I don't understand how you all can be so sure about what the universe doesn't do.  Perhaps there is more to it than you realize.  

Is everyone in here familiar with the double split experiment?

[youtube=425,350]DfPeprQ7oGc[/youtube]

I LOVE that. That always blew my mind.

If you don't understand this, you need to take basic physics.  It's not really all that mind blowing.  Electrons travel in a wave pattern OMG.

Just because you understand how something works, doesn't make it not cool. Wave-particle duality, like all of physics, is fascinating to me.

Like he said, no need to be a pompous ass.

Sorry, I thought it was mind blowing too... until I took physics in college.

Meaning? I mean, you may be perfectly innocent, but I know full well how the experiment works, but I still find it mind blowing. It has nothing to do with me not being able to understand.

Sorry if that's not what you were implying, but I just wanted to be clear.

[Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith)]

Guess I don't understand how you all can be so sure about what the universe doesn't do.  Perhaps there is more to it than you realize.  

Is everyone in here familiar with the double split experiment?

[youtube=425,350]DfPeprQ7oGc[/youtube]

I LOVE that. That always blew my mind.

If you don't understand this, you need to take basic physics.  It's not really all that mind blowing.  Electrons travel in a wave pattern OMG.

Just because you understand how something works, doesn't make it not cool. Wave-particle duality, like all of physics, is fascinating to me.

Like he said, no need to be a pompous ass.

Sorry, I thought it was mind blowing too... until I took physics in college.

Meaning? I mean, you may be perfectly innocent, but I know full well how the experiment works, but I still find it mind blowing. It has nothing to do with me not being able to understand.

Sorry if that's not what you were implying, but I just wanted to be clear.

I guess most stuff in physics stopped being mind blowing when I learned relativity and quantum mechanics.  It's still interesting, but it all just stopped "blowing my mind"

[orion]

I guess most stuff in physics stopped being mind blowing when I learned relativity and quantum mechanics.  It's still interesting, but it all just stopped "blowing my mind"

I understand "blow my mind" to mean, "it is beautiful". This changes over time. For example, I could think of the Internet as a beautiful thing, but since I grew up with it and use it every day, it's not so beautiful. I remember I used to think that astronomy was beautiful, until I took a course on it. It seems that whenever I take a government education course on something, it makes it seem not so interesting. :/

[HOO-HAA]

Interesting discussion.

My understanding is that pantheism is different to atheism in a very small way - pantheists may, for example, see 'god' in nature, but not an identifiable 'god' or personal 'god.'

It seems to me that pantheists are not claiming there definitely IS an entity which could be called 'god' and that it had a definite and active role in, say, the origin of life... but that there MAY be some things which we are unable to understand about the universe, and for the purposes of rhetoric, we could attribute such things as the work of 'god' until we know different. 

I kinda stopped off at pantheism on my way to atheism, I guess.